How To Episode 10: Cold Blue

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In this episode, I show a couple of different methods of doing a simple cold blue touch up job. Cold blue is an easy to use product which is simply rubbed in and left to cure. It is best used for touch up, although it can be used to blue an entire gun it is not quite the same quality as a standard hot blue.
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@jhmoonbay 10 жыл бұрын

Just so you know, the water DOES NOT neutralize the blue, the oil does. I'm a machinist who use to do Black Oxide (blue). The water is to wash away excess solution, but if you don't oil it, the rust process will continue. If you really want to get out scratches, you have to sand the area until you can no longer see the scratch. then steel wool the sanding marks, in steps from course to fine steel wool until the texture matches the rest of the barrel (or what ever component you're working on).

@mark5862 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly right. Better to leave the scratch unless redoing and sanding the whole part.

@jhmoonbay 3 жыл бұрын

@@mark5862 I didn't even remember this. It was 7 yrs ago. Btw, I can no longer use bluing, as I have developed an allergy to it. Too bad really. I was pretty good at it.

@mkmitchell851 6 жыл бұрын

It works 100% better if you WIPE the area with alcohol first...perma blue of 44/40 would have darkened those scratches instantly if you cut thrrough the oils first with alcohol

@Biostasis5x7 11 жыл бұрын

This type of video is simply amazing. Sharing knowledge is a selfless and awesome thing. Thanks Eric, you're the man!

@caljohn88 10 жыл бұрын

I just recently stripped and reblued my entire Norinco SKS with Brownell's Oxpho-blue that you mentioned briefly in this video. It is, as you said, an amazing product! I had previously used perma blue and super blue on a M38, but both of those took me at least 8 coats to achieve the deep black that Oxpho-blue got in just 2. Anyway, I just wanted to throw in my two cents. Hopefully this helps anyone reading. Love the videos keep them coming!

@D5quared91 11 жыл бұрын

I love the music in these vids. Relaxing and cool.

@seabears_hate_circles 9 жыл бұрын

Too bad you didn't use the perma blue right....

@mark5862 3 жыл бұрын

@GGALLIN1776 According to the label, you're still supposed to wash after one minute and then steel wool.

@Archifx 11 жыл бұрын

Eric, just wanted to compliment you on the phenomenal production quality and edits. They do not go un noticed. Great work and demonstration on bluing too :) kick ass!

@LSFprepper 11 жыл бұрын

I've used the Perma Blue. It works, but it does take a few applications. I have a Mossberg 88 that I shortened the barrel on, then blued the tip to blend it in. I think I used 4-5 coats. Still wasn't quite as dark as the original finish, but it was darn close.

@Dumak2 11 жыл бұрын

I used oxpho blue to refinish an enhanced colt 1911 slide. It's all about degreasing, light once over with steel wool, heating, and then getting a good even application. There are only a couple spots in which you can even tell that it was reblued.

@ShortGuy1792 11 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate this vid. I have my grandpa's old .22 luger repro and it's got a nasty scratch next to the toggle and this gave some good ideas on how to touch it up.

@ollieberry6130 10 жыл бұрын

How about cleaning up minor rust? I would assume the steel parts must be removed from wood stocks. Enjoyed watching. Thanks

@lgkelley1 11 жыл бұрын

love the blues soundtrak.

@angusgreeneyeslefay9485 8 жыл бұрын

aaaaaaa.....i felt that scratch on my heart

@1guyin10 11 жыл бұрын

I've found that the paste version of the Birchwood Casey is much better than the liquid, especially for larger areas. I've done a few complete reblue jobs with it. If you are doing a large area its a good idea to use their prep solution to etch the surface and remove any rust. I also prep it beforehand with a series of 400, 600 and 1200 grit sandpaper to smooth out the surface. It takes a lot of elbow grease, but it can make a nice looking blue job.

@PorchCaptain 11 жыл бұрын

Another great video. Keep them coming!

@mikemeadows7312 3 жыл бұрын

I just reblued my sons gun with birchwood Casey's super blue giving it a few coats and it turned out fantastic totally satisfied.

@andyprairiedog4829 11 жыл бұрын

I do have some BC cold Blue on hand at home and feel I need to touch up a rear TruGlo night sight. Thank you for the demonstration, sir. Well Done!!

@kezadrone 9 жыл бұрын

Perma blued replica pot metal Winchester rifles. They look great. Never heated the thing first though, didn't need to.

@Busefalis 11 жыл бұрын

Thank you Eric, I just picked up a S&W 19. A few scratches here and there, was wondering about touchup. Not a safe queen, so not worried if it doesn't come out as well.

@p38pilotdk01 11 жыл бұрын

You always have the best videos

@CaptainBerz 11 жыл бұрын

Agree, the BC cold blue is for minor/temp work. Great vid brother..

@adaman04 11 жыл бұрын

Great vid, thanks Eric!

@JaronPope 11 жыл бұрын

excellent video! Thank you so much Eric.

@exj220 11 жыл бұрын

Great how-to video, thanks for the info.

@bushmaniacishere 11 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir....keep the vids coming...I love you guys

@LSmiata 9 жыл бұрын

Great video. Did you ever consider using a glass bead blast to prep the metal? I restored an old .22 bolt action by bead blasting to bring metal back to raw form, looked like stainless steel. I then cleaned/degreased, and blued (cold blued). Result was very good. NOTE: I am a metal finisher. MOST important is a clean substrate before any good results will be realized.

@bushcraftjoe1 10 жыл бұрын

Thks for the tips and recommendations

@RaspingPompano2 11 жыл бұрын

Once again these guys need a tv show!!!!

@kezsol94 11 жыл бұрын

By the way your videos are getting better and better keep up the good work all u guys moss pawn

@allenbrowning 11 жыл бұрын

i have used prema blue on a mod 60 to completely reblue and it turned out real nice almost looked new

@eclectic3618 4 жыл бұрын

I sand smooth, clean with alcohol, dry completely, cold blue with a q-tip, dunk in cold water, buff with light steel wool, repeat 2 to 3 times, looks like brand new, did my whole rifle. Took about an hour or so.

@davidbrennan5 11 жыл бұрын

good video, I would love to see a review of the archangel stock for the mosin with detatchable mag.

@purdywaters6457 11 жыл бұрын

I have only used the Birchwood Casey cold blueing. When I do use it though, I actually scrub the blueing off all the way around the scratch with scuffing pads(like a 1/2-1" wide) around the scratch and blue it seems to blend a lot better. But as always love the videos, keep up the good work!

@fisherdigital 11 жыл бұрын

hi have learned so much from your videos thank you very much

@daddysealtx 11 жыл бұрын

Good tutorial....Keep tutorials coming, friend~!!

@trapperv9630 9 жыл бұрын

when all else failsread the instructions properly on the Birchwood casey perma blue, does not say apply with wire wool ! says apply and saturate with sponge wool is one of the earlier bluing steps

@centralbears3010 2 жыл бұрын

Great information. you repaired that in about 10 minutes. Perfect. Now, Could you have scuffed with 0000 then applied a second coat then maybe a 3rd to get rid of the gauge? It was a bad scratch.

@autopartsjoe1 11 жыл бұрын

I used permablue gel to do a full resto on an M93. Alot of tedious work yes, but at a fraction of the cost of hot bluing I can live with the results

@ericsp0f 11 жыл бұрын

i love looking at your tool wall can you do a video of your tools that you have?

@timhalpin9729 11 жыл бұрын

I tried out oxphoblue after Eric used it on his mosin and love it. If you take your time with coats i have done some barrels but the finish is thin and likes to rust. As for scratches and touching up bolts etc that have wear it is awesome.

@pyzik200 11 жыл бұрын

AWESOME! I've been going through all your bluing videos this week as I have a project I need to take care of. So timing here is perfect! Though now I know, cold bluing is not what I want to do for this project. I do think Oxpho Blue is what I am going to try first.

@CelticArmory 11 жыл бұрын

I like using Oxpho Blue and Dicropran on small parts.

@scubrodiver 10 жыл бұрын

Eric, Thanks for the videos. Have you ever tried using the Birchwood Casey (or other brand) touch up cold blue pen? Looks like a sharpie, and seems easier to apply, but I'm wondering if it's not just a gimmic.

@CobraKaiNoMercy 11 жыл бұрын

Instant 44/40 and Oxpho Blue are my favourite bluing solutions. Birchwood Casey Super Blue is good too for darker bluing touchups.

@t328 11 жыл бұрын

great info thank you !!

@Ehtereon11B 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for doing this video Eric. I have been wanting to touch up a few of my blued pieces that have scratches, namely a notorious idiot scratch on my first 1911. Not as deep as the scratches you made here but I will keep an eye out for 44/40.

@eltenda 11 жыл бұрын

nice video and good choice about the drill...:)

@Capt_Tarmac 11 жыл бұрын

Excellent videos

@thudable 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Very usefull info.

@999ScrappyDoo 10 жыл бұрын

Hey, Love your Videos, Keep em Coming please. Have a Question, a cracked bolt face on a slide, do you think building it back up with Weld would work? Or I had thought of milling out a complete section and milling a new piece to fit in, a bit like the bolt in the .22lr Browning target pistols, Do you think any of these are viable? I ask as getting a slide for the gun on question an FN Baby Browning 25 ACP is virtually imposable. Cheers!!

@justinjorgensen5085 11 жыл бұрын

Good video once again..

@LexCinnabon 10 жыл бұрын

Rather than a torch, could I heat the area up with a lighter (I don't have a torch) for a few minutes and then wipe off the soot before I apply the cold blue compound?

@jjbonedi1 10 жыл бұрын

yea you can. you dont want to get the metal too hot to touch, just warm it up a little bit.you could even use a hair dryer

@LexCinnabon 10 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the advice. A hair dryer sounds like the best idea for what I have.

@jjbonedi1 10 жыл бұрын

what are you reblueing?

@LexCinnabon 10 жыл бұрын

It will be an area of a PAP M92 7.62x39 (AK pistol) where a weld has to be cut to remove a thread protector to add a muzzle device. I wanted to file the cut weld smooth and re-blue it to help blend the area I had to cut to remove the thread protector.

@jjbonedi1 10 жыл бұрын

sounds like a fun project. youll have to apply the blue more than once on something like that, probably even several times because it is a hardened weld. just be patient with the blue and it should work out well. I reblued the entire barrel and receiver on my western field .22. it didnt look good at first but after multiple applications it doesnt look bad at all

@matthewkeisling2776 5 ай бұрын

Good video. My son inherited a couple of older long guns that might benefit from this a little.

@scuzzbecuzz 10 жыл бұрын

Good stuff. Gonna touch up my keltec P- 3AT I.

@CaliRock45 11 жыл бұрын

I use the cold blue out aide leave what ever out in the sun for about 1 hour so its warm to the touch and start the blue let its sit clean and if it needs another coat i will do it all over again but the way u did it was cool never thou about it that way thanks keep up the good work

@pim1234 9 жыл бұрын

Not very impressed...

@unlitdarkness6 11 жыл бұрын

Another reason im glad i subb'd thanks guys!

@johnadams-wp2yb 7 жыл бұрын

I'm going to try it on a watch case.

@ADKwarriors 11 жыл бұрын

Nice little Marlin Model 60 you got there Eric.

@CharlesMartellus 11 жыл бұрын

Best channel on youtube

@jimmycalzon 10 жыл бұрын

Perfect timing, going to cold blue a 1911 I have.

@Squidforhire2 11 жыл бұрын

Perfect timing on this video, this was something I wanted to learn about, however how well with it work on a firearm with some old rust spots i've already steel wool-ed away, Is it a good idea to try to use the cold blue to attempt the rust from reappearing or the finish getting any worse, or will it just cover up the underlying problems, sorry if this question seems dumb, I'm just new to the bluing process.

@lauvredis 11 жыл бұрын

Very good video.

@1pieman 11 жыл бұрын

Eric In the deep scratches could you feather sand it first to help blend it

@Ptrum 11 жыл бұрын

Informative and entertaining, you are one smooth cat in front of the camera.

@ajbrown0117 11 жыл бұрын

Could you do a How To for certain things you can do to a ak wood stock?

@daveh7720 11 жыл бұрын

Would you use either of these products to touch up wear caused by handling? Or would it be better to strip the metal down and re-blue the whole thing?

@kennethbrantley9582 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the help. Where in Georgia is your shop?

@HunterJA 10 жыл бұрын

Will it work on small rust scratches nothing too deep just the surface of the barrel on the front end near the muzzle

@mikegigabyte 11 жыл бұрын

I like the bluing in a gel just let it sit for a while then clean off with oil I dont heat, or steel wool anything, or rinse with water done whole guns that way

@lucasdog1 6 жыл бұрын

your butane flame condenses water on the cool steel. warm it with a heat gun or hair dryer for a dry heat

@zacmiller9984 11 жыл бұрын

How about a video on gun rust removal, prevention, etc.

@subaruVaggos 11 жыл бұрын

Eric could you show us the process of nickel plating? I think it is an excellent How-To especially for nickel plating some good rare old revolvers

@richarddowner4292 11 жыл бұрын

GREAT Idea to have a swab right behind the torch... may want to be careful of FIRE haha thanks great video.. I am now looking into the 44/40 looks like it may be what I need.. again thanks.. I have used a littel bit of baking soda with some water as a naturalizer. It worked good..I gotta get that 44/40.. thanks... thumbs up great video

@1987Confused 11 жыл бұрын

What do you recommend to re blue an entire weapon? I have used cold blue before but I have a few guns that I would like to totally re do.

@hitchhikersguidetotheusael967 11 ай бұрын

Thank ya sir

@ddfire1 9 жыл бұрын

ok i have a browning auto 5 shot gun that has ware marks on the barrel from a lot of use wood this be a good slootion for it

@The_Osprey 11 жыл бұрын

What's different about the process/chemicals between cold bluing and what you might do to a new barrel or a re-blue project?

@Forrestslr 11 жыл бұрын

I have been thinking about makarov can you do a video on some you have redone

@miGsKills 11 жыл бұрын

I love these gum-smiffing videos.

@richcollins513 Жыл бұрын

If your having strength issues with perma blue try avoid container contamination by pouring what your going to use into another area to dip your steel wool in. Each dip of the steel wool will weaken the solution.

@samuelmorrison3142 11 жыл бұрын

would rem oil work for rubbing out the metal after the cold blue?

@blueovalfan23 11 жыл бұрын

used perma blue on an old rifle my dad gave me. it was rough. he trade got it in a trade and someone sanded the blue off and painted the stock black with something that put me in mind of fence faint. that perma blue works with good prep work. used a few coats and it's more black than blu but considering the before and after. it's no show piece but you can only do so much to get around the deep scratches.

@SKSer45 11 жыл бұрын

Nice video bud, would it be taboo is this was done on a C&R rifles?

@paulpaulie 3 жыл бұрын

I knew I liked ya for a reason. Nice Milwaukee battery

@Popeye78382 11 жыл бұрын

For the Oxpho Blue, do you like the liquid or the creme better?

@rcrespo106 11 жыл бұрын

i was going to install a custom fit beaver tail on a Remington R1, what method would you recommend to reblue the part of the receiver that I grind the radius?

@vpsaline 11 жыл бұрын

Is cold blueing enough for an old magazine tube on a 1960s wingmaster thats all discolored?

@killacopforfun666 11 жыл бұрын

Never mind.. lol great 22lr. Do you happen to know any websites where I could pick up internals for this dandy rifle? Springs firing pin / mechanisms

@bobbysusenbach9687 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing.. Will 44/40 work on small Knicks in what I think is black anodiezed aluminum. Specifically, it's my Sig 320 AXG grip module? If not, any recommendations? Maybe aluma-black? Sharpie?lol

@kezsol94 11 жыл бұрын

Hey berry and Eric you guys should do a video on the different kind of blueing and the pros and cons but its just an idea u

@carboncopy2853 5 жыл бұрын

what is the tool like a protain tourch. where can i get one ????? thank you

@TrojanEMT 10 жыл бұрын

I've used cold bluing with Birchwood Casey's, but i had them send me their Super Blue the perma blue didnt like polished finishes. But yeah i've done a 12 gauge New England Pardener shotgun , a Sears and Roebuck .22lr , and a 410 shotgun, and they turned out great! I'm living in a place I cannot use caustic acid or any other stout chemicals.

@gatorred157 11 жыл бұрын

i use cold blue to blend in better steel wool around where the damage is that will tend to make the bluing flow togather better also using a hair dryer i had not propane torch to use, some stuff just will not cover up but for rust stopping it will then oil it after it water bathed! i reseal stock too i hunt in winter time i might get into rain or snow! that why i resealed the stock! i liked the video i learned some tips from it!

@pikemaster1972 3 жыл бұрын

After blueing the scratch what do you wash it with

@andregross7420 11 жыл бұрын

I always get bad bluing with perma blue and super blue. I guess I need to try oxpho or 44/40

@scuzzbecuzz 10 жыл бұрын

Bought it used sent to keltec and they replaced trigger assembly, trigger bar & extractor screw, polished feed ramp. Great company service, will seriously consider them for next purchase. No charge just paid frt to them, none back to me

@bernieclement3373 11 жыл бұрын

instructions even say multiple coats may be required, I did an entire mosin m-44 took 4 coats to get decent bluing and could use 2 more but instructions say do not leave on more than 2-3 minutes to it is very tedious doing small sections at a time,I took it down to bare clean steel starting out. It turned out nice.

@441rider 7 жыл бұрын

Just slap the parts on the header of a hardley and ride around in 105f temps. It will blue anything then spill it's crankcase oil on your rear tire as the rod connects with road. I'm going to try the 44/40