I think Sandy missed an important point about radiation weapons (which includes nukes): ionizing radiation creates reactive chemicals (UV creates ozone) which means the Proto-plasm of the Shoggoth will quickly fill up with reactive oxygen species, free radicals, or ions that would prevent, or at least greatly inhibit, the Shoggoth from changing itself at will. This may not kill it outright but make it more vulnerable to a secondary attack - cold, heat, chemical, etc
@MrCmon1132 жыл бұрын
Also whether it's made up of the same kind of cells as us or not, since it can form pretty much everything everywhere on it's body, it must be very susceptible to cancer.
@frankfelerski1043 Жыл бұрын
Also, regarding fire - we know heat can irreversibly change proteins (fry an egg if you don't believe me) and thus would make the affected areas completely useless for the shoggoth until it reabsorbed the matter, and then digested it into a usable form Therefore fire would certainly inhibit a shoggoth, and while it might not kill one that's big enough, it would certainly destroy smaller ones
@nightwatcher26523 жыл бұрын
"A Lighting gun is good for killing a Shoggoth" So I think we need to call an old pal that uses one, and I think you know him too.
@singletona0823 жыл бұрын
Just don't stand in water when using.
@wizardfellow Жыл бұрын
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@PsionicCavalier10 ай бұрын
@@wizardfellowPlay Quake
@maksimsmelchak74335 ай бұрын
Where can I learn more about lightning guns?
@charlesdexterward77813 жыл бұрын
Even Gandalf, who defeated a Balrog, didn't want to mess with shoggoths. "Far, far below the deepest delving of the Dwarves, the world is gnawed by nameless things. Even Sauron knows them not. They are older than he. Now I have walked there, but I will bring no report to darken the light of day." Although I think Gandalf says "nameless things" because Lovecraft was not yet public domain when LoTR was published.
@sozaj3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a strange case involving you?
@alexanderchippel2 жыл бұрын
Them blowing up The Thing at the end of the movie being dumb was kind of the point. They all know it's probably not going to work, but they're desperate and have no real other choice.
@Joemantler4 жыл бұрын
Shuggoths vulnerability is their being physics based. It still has to have some mechinism for taking in oxygen and distributing it through out its form. Either freeze them so cold that they stop moving entirely (not killing them, but...) or keep burning them with acid or fire until you have worked through all of its mass. I must say that I am more and more liking the idea of getting rid of things by dropping them into massive gravity wells. Like Jupiter, which has gravity so strong it is theorized that the hydrogen takes on metallic properties. Even One Big Muscle will get squished pretty small and find it hard to do anything.
@BrooklynJackBlue4 жыл бұрын
...it's been a fairly interesting Sunday when, through a string of events you can't really recall, you wind up learning what to do in a fight against a f*cking Lovecraftian monster from what amounts to a genuine authority on the topic on KZfaq, and then subscribing to the channel.
@gameon_ct5 жыл бұрын
"Don't. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk"
@HavocGamingChannel3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to homeschool my kids and have them learn this, and I don't care what my wife has to say about it
@MrCmon1132 жыл бұрын
I think he highballs shoggoths a lot. Really any method can kill a shoggoth, you just have to hit it a bit more often. I don't think they are ever stated to be amazing fighters. And if you disrupt the brain(s) of the thing, they might still be alive and capable of becoming anything, but they have forgotten that they are fighting you.
@alexanderchippel2 жыл бұрын
@@MrCmon113 If we go by CoC 7e, all it takes to kill them (and frankly anything in the mythos) is a substantial supply of dynamite.
@Burnthas2 жыл бұрын
A sphere of flesh weighs 60 tonnes... That was a sentence and a fact I was not expecting to hear today.
@MKempICI2 жыл бұрын
Buy it a beer. Or a meat and cheese tray. "You guys are children of the Old Ones/Elder Things too, huh? What a bunch of neglectful precursors, am I right? Have a beer!" At this point, we do the same thing we do with everybody else: Win them over with food, drink, entertainment and booty. The Shoggoths are on a high-protein diet, so we offer to de-bone their meat for them, cover it in BBQ sauce, and deep-fat fry it. Next, we sell them cigarettes and whiskey. With the ability to grow new lungs, Shoggoths could have a 20 packs/minute habit and never die. As for entertainment: "It's time for the horde to vote: Who will be Antarctica's Next Top Piper for the year 1943? Ululate '1" for Ulglsplrp, and '2" for Qwerployfgrt." For the final point: Shoggoths must replicate somehow. We figure out how, and start a dating service for them. After all, they are going to be spread out across the globe doing construction work, and meeting other Shoggoths is probably going to be difficult. Even eldritch abominations will think twice before they annihilate the race of apes that get them laid. Shoggoths can get all the air, food and water that they need on their own. We'll just offer to add the zing in the form of vaping, french fries and Pepsi. If we can get them sex, drugs and rock 'n roll they want, I suspect we don't need to fight them. They'll fight for US.
@rodClark7173 жыл бұрын
Using our standards, they seem a mass of undirected stem cells. Their physical strength is most likely far more than you're giving them; why make a muscle when hydraulics provides far greater force? Also, assuming they're able to split parts of themselves off, shuggoths could fling bits of themselves at aircraft or ships. One of sufficient size to exhaust on-hand ammunition would be impossible to destroy. It could armor up with vehicles, buildings and infrastructure, also using those as weapons or projectiles. We'd be doomed unless we could co-opt or reason with them.
@Gabdube4 жыл бұрын
4 options: 1. Electrocute it (it's mostly water-based cells) 2. "Cook" it with copious amounts of high-penetrating radiation, enough to to through its whole body and kill all cells it touches (basically a ray gun). 3. Trap it in an incinerator. 4. Drop it in a foundry crucible or some other vat of molten material, or an active volcano if you can find one nearby.
@Gabdube4 жыл бұрын
Hypothetically, if we had the sci-fi means of the Elder things, the ideal ranged method would be a muon gun. Say we have a particle that easily passes through most matter in general (and organic matter in particular) but will eventually decay into a spray of deadly radiation; like a muon. You aim your particle accelerator at the enemy, calculate the range between the accelerator and the enemy, then adjust the speed of the particles such that the precise point where the particles decay into deadly radiation is _inside_ the center of the enemy's body. It is like teleporting a burst of deadly radiation into the enemys guts, cooking it wholly from the inside faster than it could ever react. The "downsides" of a muon gun are 1) high power consumption due to being particle accelerators; and 2) having a maximum effective range of _only_ about 6km in an atmosphere like Earth's.
@tomkerruish2982Ай бұрын
@@GabdubeA very creative idea; unfortunately, muon decay is random. They don't all decay after a certain time; rather, there's only a probability that they'll decay within a given interval, solely dependent on the length of that interval.
@ArkhamReporter4 жыл бұрын
Nuke it from orbit. Just to be sure. Hope you continue this "how to fight" series. Migo, flying polyps, hounds of tindalos, etc would be cool to see. Keep it up Sandy!
@burpostockings11 ай бұрын
Shoggoth will catch it and be like "Thanks for the nuke!" 😂
@afrofrycook5 жыл бұрын
Grenade Launcher + Flamethrower/Acid. Explosion will let you attack more surface area with your flamethrower.
@SandyofCthulhu4 жыл бұрын
that does sound like a good combination.
@0neDoomedSpaceMarine4 жыл бұрын
Possibly a thermobaric bomb could work.
@Vuurgeest3 жыл бұрын
Could a Shoggoth that size not be a hollow sphere in theory? Since they morph, could they not hollow themselves out to become bigger? Just an extra possibility to think about.
@TheStoodUpKid2 жыл бұрын
More how to fight videos, please? Even if the answer is always, "You cant" I waaaant it
@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies3 жыл бұрын
Re: Poisons. If you can get a small part of a shoggoth you can run some tests, find out what they're made of. Once you find that out, you simply need a molecule that will react with one of the main components. Then its as simple a stoichiometric ratio, weigh out enough of your reagent and you will molecularly destroy the shoggoth. Basically any poison works by simply incapacitating a vital component of the poisoned, like the blood cells or the neurons. If there is no vital component in a shoggoth then you just react the majority of the creature. A simple acid or base, for example, might only need a way to enter the creature, such as through a 'needle'..
@Skullkan63 жыл бұрын
7:47 yes, however shoggoths clearly do require sustenance to survive and the smallest the shoggoth is, the less likely it will be able to sustain that sustenance. Shoggoths are likely to grow quickly however that need for food will slowly kill it if you can deprive those bits. They are likely omnivores, and in anarctica it had the penguins to eat, but like with a tree if you cuts bits off those bits MAY die. You would probably need something like a minigun with specialized ammo to do any REAL damage to it that it couldn't reform fast enough. That reforming likely requires a lot of energy and therefore food. This actually gave me the idea a while back for a "Colour out of Space Shoggoth" where through some dimensional havoc a Colour out of Space was stuck inside/combined with a shoggoth like a star trek teleporter accident. As a result the colour is continuously eating away at the shoggoth while the shoggoth itself is continually consuming everything it can get its hands on to keep enough mass to live. The Colour itself is just trying to get free but can't. And the shoggoth just can't expell it as the two are fused at a molecular level. Continuous hunger and continuous, rapid entropy.
@rodneykelly87684 жыл бұрын
I’ve been considering combining elements of “Call Of Cthulhu” with “Traveller.” I was thinking about using a type of shoggoth that could function in the vacuum of space. The weapon I was thinking about giving to the players is the Fire Web Generator, (The Space Gamer, #36, page #4.)
@keithgaspard99504 жыл бұрын
Oh man, this is inspiring me to use more slimes and oozes in my game, only they're fast and smart. I love it.
@SandyofCthulhu4 жыл бұрын
better hope they're not ambitious or they can take over the world. How could humans stop them?
@keithgaspard99504 жыл бұрын
Uhh...uhhh....I have to go...clothing laundry to wash and all that. Gotta take the kids to the education sanctuary for their learning. You know, human chores and stuff.
@SandyofCthulhu4 жыл бұрын
@@keithgaspard9950 yeah "human" chores. I have them too I think
@max-zv7sf2 жыл бұрын
Still, explosives sound fairly effective with the right tactics. Even at current level of tech a platoon can carry a fair amount of rocket propelled granades, recoiless rifles, granade launchers, rifle granades and so forth and so on. Peppering a shoggoth with, say a rotary granade launcher or light mortar to keep it in place and dismember its appendages would allow heavy hitters to take pot shots until the shoggoth stops functioning.
@singletona0823 жыл бұрын
So what you are telling me is I need a back mounted unlicensed particle accelerator. Got it.
@sozaj3 жыл бұрын
Can we all just take a moment and acknowledge just how thankful we are that NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE REAL?? In fact, say how thankful you are about it at the dinner table on Thanksgiving when your family forces you to partake in the obligatory "what I'm thankful for" circle declarations. Dad: "So, Timmy, what are you thankful for this year?" Timmy: "I'm thankful that Shoggoths and all of Lovecraft's other monsters don't exist! And I include the monsters created by authors who took inspiration from Lovecraft too!" Dad: "... ... That's great son... let's have dinner. (I worry about that boy, Mable)."
@visageliquifier36363 жыл бұрын
17:30 - It should not be more of it, percentage-wise, since if the Shoggoths are that large, that outer surface area would be immense. The big difference is that the Shoggoth could adapt to resist and likely nullify the effects of fire while it would be hard-pressed to resist directed energy of that magnitude (it's a trap?). While on a planet it might form a conductive channel and ground itself out, but in space it would have nowhere to shunt the energy. As far as explosions being useless, I'm not so sure. Most of its defenses are based on manipulating an area to form some shell or protect a segment. If you blast it to increase that area and then napalm and/or gas it, it has a lot more area to protect very quickly. You could essentially hit it everywhere at once if you spread it out enough. It wouldn't be easy and would have to be well planned, but it does not require a technology we don't have. You can also apply multiple vectors. If you shoot at it with a lightning gun, it should spread out like a huge sail or in to a series of connected nodes, like a 3D molecule model. That would give it maximal dispersion so that the beam is either more likely to miss or only annihilate a tiny bit of mass. If you however pair that with an attack that exploits a large area, like fire and/or gas, you can create a scenario that no single tactic could circumvent. You must cause their strength to become their greatest weakness so that they march themselves willingly in to oblivion ... (ahem).
@UCSPanther204 жыл бұрын
This might be useful, because I have a Shoggoth lair on my farm, and I was wondering how to get rid of them... Now to find a Masakari class battlemech...
@F15ElectricEagle4 жыл бұрын
An alpha strike with 4 ER PPCs. Hmmm,... Sounds good to me!
@SandyofCthulhu4 жыл бұрын
@@F15ElectricEagle would probably work, if the shoggoths haven't grown too big
@johnmudd64533 жыл бұрын
Put a hosepipe down the lair and turn the water full on , then block the hole with a stone ! It worked for me
@coledanger96773 жыл бұрын
If a Shoggoth is made of Earth goop, I imagine the otherworldly "matter" some beings like but not limited to Great Cthulhu are made of would give them an upset stomach? Cthulhu had "a shape that was not made of matter" that I imagine would be indigestible by Shoggoths. Obviously this isnt helpful to humanity without friends in high places, but I imagine that "not matter" Cthulhu is made of is present in other lesser being as well
@Skullkan63 жыл бұрын
Hey Sandy, I'm against the assumption that the weapons the Old Ones used Yithian Particle beams to fight them. It's for slicing and dicing, and shots, not destruction outright. I am thinking if they used it, it would be more like a lamp or shotgun than a beam. At the Mountains of Madness describes the Old Ones using "weapons of atomic and molecular disturbance" against the Elder Things. For me this implies a device which would disrupt the molecules and atoms in a Shoggoth to either dissipate, or destroy the shoggoths on an atomic level. I am assuming it broke/redirected bonds on an atomic level without splitting atoms which would cause a nuclear explosion. Maybe a kind of ray or device which could be projected onto a shoggoth. Shoggoths are smart and see well so maybe it was more long range, like a flying drone or the like (or a flying elder thing). This makes the most sense to me but shoggoths could just grow long range eyes like hawks. But yeah something to disrupt or reduce the strength of, atomic bonds might've been the best bet. WE can't do that, but i'm betting the Elder Things certainly could. I mean, to them "If you break an atom it's a nuclear explosion" is probably like "fire hot" to them. Or at least "Propane tanks can explode." I'd assume via the creation of Shoggoths that they have a stronger handle than we do on playing with Atoms and dealing with Atomic radiation... something it seems like not a single space faring Lovecraft species has ever had to deal with.
@Xbalanque84 Жыл бұрын
What it it was something that weakened Van Der Waals forces?
@JaketheCultist4 жыл бұрын
WHAT IF A Xenomorph fought a shoggoth? Would you get Xenoggoths?
@SandyofCthulhu4 жыл бұрын
i suspect the Xenomorph parasite larvae would just be digested. Shoggoths probably digest all parasites and disease organisms pretty effectgively.
@ClockworkOuroborous3 жыл бұрын
@@SandyofCthulhu I imagine that they would then use what they absorbed to more effectively wage their war.
@jamesrose14603 жыл бұрын
Just an aside about Shoggoth's speaking...Larry Correia's character Julie Shakleford has a pet shoggoth named, "Mr. Trashbags" that was originally sent to kill her as a child but it fell in love with her. Trashbags speaks in almost child like manner...calling Julie "Cuddlebunny" and is not huge as he tends to ride in her pocket alot. Julie has to rein him in on occassion...especially if it has potential to involve eating someone. She usually has to tell him "No Killing" His reply usually involves toes. He is a cute addition to one of the MHI universe. Ans he can be quite funny.
@cherrystone4 жыл бұрын
what sci-fi weapons(railgun, coilgun, plasma, laser, antimatter, etc.) would be most effective in destroying shoggoth? force-field the shoggoth and throw it into a black hole maybe?
@SandyofCthulhu4 жыл бұрын
probably the particle beams. Lasers wouldn't be much use, because shoggoths are mostly water, and would diffuse the effect, which after all is just burning a small hole, which the shoggoth doesn't care about. Anything producing extreme heat or gamma rays is probably bad for it so maybe x-ray lasers. I'm sure an antimatter bomb would finish it off.
@Gabdube4 жыл бұрын
Basically a ray gun. An X-ray "laser" would be the most effective, since the beam could just go through the whole thing and kill all cells in its path. www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/spacegunexotic.php#id--X-Ray_Bomb
@Gabdube4 жыл бұрын
The thing with black holes is that they'd be really darn dangerous to handle, perhaps even more so than the shoggoth. At least the shoggoth can presumably be reasoned with to some extent. And force fields are way too hardware-intensive to generate; it'd take such a ridiculous amount of machinery and power supply that you're better off just building really thick impermeable walls around the shoggoth if you want to trap it somewhere.
@Gabdube4 жыл бұрын
Another option is a muon gun. Say we have a particle that easily passes through most matter in general (and organic matter in particular) but will eventually decay into a spray of deadly radiation; like a muon. You aim your particle accelerator at the enemy, calculate the range between the accelerator and the enemy, then adjust the speed of the particles such that the precise point where the particles decay into deadly radiation is _inside_ the center of the enemy's body. It is like teleporting a burst of deadly radiation into the enemys guts, cooking it wholly from the inside faster than it could ever react.
@ImpKnt804 жыл бұрын
How about super-cooled Liquid Nitrogen such as in Terminator 2? We could just hose it down with the stuff. That stopped the T-1000's morphing ability (programmed nanite "cells" - similar to what you describe the sentient blob of earth spawned protoplasm) and led to its kneecap shattering doom.
@SandyofCthulhu4 жыл бұрын
at 8:22 in the video I actually specifically talk about trying to freeze a shoggoth.
@ImpKnt804 жыл бұрын
Sandy of Cthulhu I know. This was more to open the possibility of not only freezing it but making its entire biological structure brittle enough to shatter with any movement down to the most basic cells. If the liquid nitrogen can be cooled enough to lock down individual nanites in a T-1000 enough to not only stop them from morphing back together and make them dissociate from each other, then it should be enough to cripple not only the shoggoth’s ability to break away and reform itself if it was completely hosed in the lovely brittle batter of hyper-cooled liquid nitrogen foam. That should hurt it far more than just a hard freeze since you have neutralized its regenerative cellular structure and reduced it to the consistency of a frozen and brittle ice sculpture. Nitrogen being an inert gas converted into liquid and super-cooled to the point you can render the biochemical bonds of a shoggoth inert as well as destroy its cellular structure entirely certainly has some possibilities when it comes to shoggoth pest control, right?
@Lawofimprobability2 жыл бұрын
@@SandyofCthulhu Though you were referring to ordinary temperatures in Antarctica which ranges from -10C to -60C, not the -190C liquid nitrogen. There's a fun video by Jefferson Labs where they use liquid nitrogen to freeze antifreeze.
@cinderheart27202 жыл бұрын
I wonder what sonic weapons might do. If you could shake the shoggoth apart, disrupt the very plasmid it was made out of and reduce it to baser elements, that would probably work. Time to put a Shoggoth in a centrifuge. For Science.
@ruslanmracabred66562 жыл бұрын
Shoggoths had never fought against The Old Ones. Those two had never met.
@Incrediblefatslug4 жыл бұрын
One might even say, too much napalm in an air strike!
@SandyofCthulhu4 жыл бұрын
(Ride of the Valkyries starts playing)
@Xbalanque84 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one intrigued by the idea of trying to _talk_ to a shoggoth? As in not fight them but try to engage them? If they're as intelligent as you're suggesting, trying to communicate with one sounds like an interesting experiment/experience... provided we could calm them down enough to try.
@HavocGamingChannel3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the trick isn't to actually kill it, but rather, trap it in some kind of substance or room? Like, lure it into a pit of concrete, or maybe dump a bunch of gorilla glue all over it, or since it's weak to electricity, you could create some kind of electrified platform to lure it onto (preferably in rainy conditions)
@tylernations1973 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. love it. keep up the good work
@warrenjehosephat2313 жыл бұрын
I am not saying the old ones are dumb, or that humans are smart, or that they weren't/aren't significantly more technologically advanced. But every time I hear how much smarter than us they supposedly are all I can think is how they seem prone to the same arrogance of "Lets do this really cool thing" without thinking through all the potential ramifications. See: Shoggoths.
@williambryant5771Ай бұрын
There are many who think that The Thing was .based on the Mountains of Madness . The simulularities between The Thing and a Shuggoth are amazing . Even discounting the cold locations of both stories .
@WiggidyWack3 жыл бұрын
What about viral/biological countermeasures? There's plenty there that a creature of protoplasm would be susceptible to. Exposing a Shoggoth to something like a hemorrhagic fever strain would be an interesting thought experiment, given how contagious and rapidly debilitating it is.
@Skullkan63 жыл бұрын
I think Proto-Shoggoths from Malleus Monstorum more "take-able" for a party as you can actually run from them. They can also be brought out of any human being I believe due to the suggestion that elder things or mi-go created it in part of our genes. I remember someone once saying a shoggoth was one of the more "take-able" things in loveceaft's mythos which now seems hilarious. They seem far more like throwing a dragon at 1st level characters in D&D. Call of Cthulhu is still so lethal that I had TWO of my players get badly injured in a recent gunfight that involved only 2 human beings. One of them got unlucky on a dodge roll after they ran within sight range of a cultist with a single blast from a sawed offd shotgun (one armed by the way, a player earlier on shriveled that guy's arm as he held them at gunpoint so he was firing off-handed) and it broke her shin from the force. Earlier on I had one PC get hospitalized from an encounter with Alex Hearne from the Arkham sourcebook, who had been swayed by the cultist. ONE good stab put him in the hospital for a solid week and the robber only had an empty gun and a pocket knife. THAT is good HP statting to keep within realism.
@SandyofCthulhu3 жыл бұрын
I would agree that proto-shoggoths are probably easier to take down, but they can also conceal themselves to an extent.
@Skullkan63 жыл бұрын
@@SandyofCthulhu oh yeah and I ran The Condemned from Arkham Unveiled, and lost 2 characters to the shoggoth which they were smart enough not to try to fight. The best part was they were THIS close to the Shoggoth rampaging Arkham, but between the 2 PCs it ate, the 4-5 cops, it was "Full" for its size value so it just went back down to sleep it off in its little hidey hole instead of killing everyone. The PCs explained it as "an explosion laced with hallucinogens to the Comissioner who was desperate for any answer that made sense and wasn't "A big goo thing has most of the police force in the Asylum"
@MrCmon1132 жыл бұрын
According to At the Mountains of Madness shoggoths are hundreds of millions of years older than humanity. The Old Ones both created shoggoths and the earliest earth life at the same time.
@galmannmedbart3 жыл бұрын
in the book differently morphous I think they use salt :)
@brendanthegreek2 жыл бұрын
An interesting analysis, but one must consider one important fact: a highly malleable and amorphous creature composed of cytoplasm (like an amoeba) is only a winning or viable design at a microscopic (or at least very tiny) scale. The reason for this is that the cystoskeleton that allows an amoeba to maintain any structural integrity at all simply cannot withstand the rigors of gravity at a macroscopic scale. It would quickly collapse under it's own weight (water is very heavy). Think about a water bed, and how everyone of a certain age knows of a story of one rupturing. This is why (thank goodness) we don't see creatures like the blob or a shoggoth in the real world. Earth's gravity requires musculoskeletal systems, composed of specialized and differentiated cells for macroscopic multicellular creatures (such as ourselves) to keep it all together and move around. Now it IS possible that a creature with a large repository of undifferentiated cells could exist, one that could repurpose them to form new organs and structures on the fly, but the laws of physics would still require those structures (enervated muscle, bone, and internal organs) to conform to some design approximating what we see in other real world creatures of a similar size (whales, elephants, etc.), and therefore would be subject to the same vulnerabilities that those creatures have to things like fire, acid, cold, and explosions. Furthermore, the first and second laws of thermodynamics would require a massive input of raw material to make the kind of large scale repairs you describe in your analysis (which is why creatures capable of healing lost limbs in the real world, such as starfish and certain lizards, can only do so over a prolonged period. A shoggoth, having sustained massive damage, could retreat and definitely heal to fight another day, but it would be far from unstoppable. Having said all this, one could wave it all away with, "because elder things", but I think it's only fair to mention these points if one is going through the trouble of examining the issue. Biological form is not immune to the laws of physics, except in awesome pulp stories and B movies. Love your channel by the way, just subscribed.
@imperialtutor86872 жыл бұрын
Acid sounds pretty good I mean it breaks matter down to a molecular level...depending on the acid or lava isn’t bad either
@friendlyheretic91035 ай бұрын
You just need a lot of acid. Maybe we could also make some superabsorbent, higroscopic chemicals that could desecate a shoggoths, but it would probably be able to isolate it in cysts filled with fat or wax to stop water being drawn out of its body. It can probably do similar things with acids, synthesizing some protective coating, maybe some sort of acid resistant bio ceramic
@bruggeman6723 жыл бұрын
I got the impression in "the Shadow over Innsmouth" that there were multiple shoggoths in several houses throughout the town.....
@Lawofimprobability2 жыл бұрын
A fair guess but I got the impression that Zadok Allen was referring to future plans to bring them up (but one possible reading is that he had seen them). I just interpreted the creepy houses as containing more of the Deep Ones.
@bruggeman6722 жыл бұрын
@@Lawofimprobability quote "Yew want to know what the reel horror is hey? Wl, it's this - it ain't what them fish devils hez done, it's what they're a-goin to do! They're a-bringin' things up aout o' whar they come from into the taown - ben doin it fer years an' slackenin' up lately. Them haouses north o' the river betwixt Water an' Main Streets is full of em - them devils an' what they brung- an' when they git ready... I say, when they git ready... ever hear tell of a shoggoth? "Hey d'ye hear me? I tell ye I know what them things be - I seem 'em one night when-" and he proceeds to then lose his proverbial shit.
@Lawofimprobability2 жыл бұрын
@@bruggeman672 I interpreted "an' when they git ready" to apply to a shoggoth being brought from the deep but, now that you provide the text, I can see the possibility that "what they bring up" could likely include shoggoths as well.
@bruggeman6722 жыл бұрын
@@Lawofimprobability it says as much. the shoggoths are in the houses in town but the deep ones have not yet launched the attack campaign as it were. Allen has his breakdown because he's remembering seeing a shoggoth then notices he's been spotted talking to the outsider which he knows is forbidden.
@bruggeman6722 жыл бұрын
@@Lawofimprobability them devils and what they brung refers to the deep ones, the devils or fish devils, and what they brung, the shoggoths
@mathieuaurousseau100Ай бұрын
We have lightning guns, that's what we use for radio therapy
@olaf59293 жыл бұрын
That's what a TedTalk by people with a PhD with Xenobiology will sound like in about 300 years when we finally discover Shoggoths.
@kiplininman7383 Жыл бұрын
Great video but Mustard gas when used will blister the outer layer and the liquid in the blister has mustard gas in it also, so it will perpetuate the blistering effect.
@disfuncionexe3 жыл бұрын
HUMANS DO HAVE LIGHTING GUNS they are called tesla coils. build a big ass tesla coil and then shock the shoggoth. portability could be an issue so maybe they would have to find a way to lure it to the Tesla coil. that could be cool. people trying to figure out what can kill a shoggoth, making the Tesla coil and then trying to lure the shoggoth to the tesla coil and then turning the tesla coil on once the shoggoth is in range
@morgannec Жыл бұрын
I would think that intense short wave energy could be capable of cooking the shoggoth from the inside. You could in theory set up a number of small satellite dishes and coordinate them on the target. Something that malleable should be susceptible to that kind of energy.
@blazeofglory85394 жыл бұрын
The Elder things killed them with molecular weapons, yes, they are killable
@SandyofCthulhu4 жыл бұрын
as I in fact stated in my video.
@Enriqueguiones3 жыл бұрын
But, remember, the Shoggoths actually WON the war!
@vladimir88913 жыл бұрын
Sandy, how do you know how much a 15 foot diameter sphere of flesh weighs? Is there something you're not telling us?
@singletona0823 жыл бұрын
He possesses forbidden knowledge and it's terrible weight haunts the moments between moments within his mind.
@vladimir88913 жыл бұрын
@@singletona082 okay yeah that explains quite a bit actually
@boris23423 жыл бұрын
if you are fighting a shuggoth with regular firearms the game is already tits up
@ultimatecorgi33923 жыл бұрын
What about radioactive substances with a short half life? Radiation doesn't just damage DNA, it ionizes everything, causing destructive chemical reactions, and alpha and beta radiation is some of the most dangerous (although it's short-range) stuff. If you could load a fragile dart full of Radon-222 (alpha emitter), Iodine-131 (beta emitter), or Fluorine-18 (beta emitter) you could maybe poison the shoggoth with it, and if the dart is fragile (or perhaps using some kind of coated pellet gun), perhaps there'd be too many "hot spots" of radiation for the shoggoth to compensate for? I imagine it'd be some weird sort of government plan- they'd need to generate a large amount of this material, process it safely into perhaps a powder, a gas gun, or some kind of liquid coating for shotgun slugs, then distribute it as evenly as possible within the shoggoth, killing it over the course of hours or days. I thought of something you could use for your games! Radiation poisoning hurts stem cells the fastest, which is why short-lived and fast-dividing cells like sperm, bone marrow, the intestines, and skin are the most affected by radiation poisoning. Perhaps radiation wouldn't kill a shoggoth, but perhaps it would force the shoggoth to avoid eating things for a while? Perhaps radiation would force it to "adapt" by ossifying into as much resistant material as possible? Make it dormant while it waited for the decay products to fade?
@Lontracanadensis Жыл бұрын
The problem with radiological weapons is you have to deliver them. If they have enough radiation in one place to kill a shoggoth, they have enough radiation in one place to quickly kill whoever is trying to deliver the weapon to the target. The shielding required to allow the human to live long enough to deliver it is more than a human can carry; you're looking at driving a panel truck into the shoggoth, then blowing several tons of lead off of it to expose the source just as you drive in. You could maybe do some sort of delivery over time, hit it with 10,000 little darts, each fired by someone who will die from carrying it a few days later, but the dose is calculated so they can live long enough to get it to the shoggoth and shoot it in. Alpha and beta won't penetrate human skin (usually; Phosphorus-32's beta particles have enough energy to) but even they produce Bremsstrahlung X-rays when they collide with anything around them, and those X-rays will penetrate. You still need tons of shielding (Plexiglas rather than lead; the X-rays are less intense when the particles collide with plastic rather than metal) to carry a dangerous dose to the shoggoth. You could maybe go with a fizzled nuclear weapon; set it to go off with only a few dekatons or maybe hectotons of X-ray power, but its radioactive output up to the point of bringing the core supercritical would be fairly low. Not a neutron bomb though; neutrons penetrate out to around a hundred miles, and through up to 13 feet of earth shielding. Killing every unshielded human within a 200 mile circle around the shoggoth is the opposite of what you want, even if you do get the shoggoth. Complete destruction of everything within a few blocks would be preferable.
@developerfriendly3 жыл бұрын
adam ne güzel hayat dolu ya özendim
@ZimBeckler29 күн бұрын
if i had your name my gamertag would be GritCock and thats pretty rad
@alexmolina18053 жыл бұрын
it's mostly water so what about microwaving a shoggoth , would it be killed?
@athan3363 жыл бұрын
what is a proto shoggoth are they different from regular shoggoths, did regular shoggoths create life?
@Trencher13753 жыл бұрын
The only way to join a shoggot is to be its dinner.
@nikolibarastov4487Ай бұрын
So, Thor would be able to waste Shoggoths left and right
@darthXreven3 жыл бұрын
I shoulda got a degree in engineering and science and made a -lightning gun- particle cannon.....my wasted life! lolz
@gwang31035 жыл бұрын
Just call Superman to pick it up and toss it into the sun. Problem solved. Oh, wait, Superman might be too kind to do that and instead might just bring it to some other planet where it will do no harm to anyone. ;)
@sandypetersen69355 жыл бұрын
But -- how can he "pick up" a shoggoth? Can't it just separate into separate pieces and slither away? Seems like heat vision might be his only chance.
@gwang31035 жыл бұрын
@@sandypetersen6935 I don't remember shogs being able to divide themselves into mini-shogs. Which story by Lovecraft says that? Maybe I missed something... And actually, since shogs are supposed to be intelligent, maybe talking to them is a possible option. You can persuade them to sprout the right sorts of appendages so they'll be able to photosynthesize their own food like a green plant. Then they'll never have any reason to hurt any human again, sheer malice apart. :)
@SpectrumDT5 жыл бұрын
@@gwang3103 : They have plenty of reason to hurt humans. Humans are aggressive, xenophobic and at times highly impulsive, and humans COULD harm shoggoths. The rational reaction is to wipe out humans.
@gwang31035 жыл бұрын
@@SpectrumDT Hey, not all humans. Besides which (most of?) the shogs have been living in the Antarctic for a long time before any humans set foot there, so at least at first they wouldn't know what sort of creatures humans were like. :)
@SpectrumDT5 жыл бұрын
@@gwang3103 : The Deep Ones clearly have dealings with shoggoths (as do the cultists in "The Thing on the Doorstep", apparently). So it is quite possible that the Antarctic shoggoths have been getting intelligence from outside.
@TheGamesNexus4 жыл бұрын
This was a fun video! I've linked it in my article about shoggoths: alkony.enerla.net/tag/minispecies-shoggoth-cthulhu-mythos
@SandyofCthulhu4 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@naughtseeingeye77674 ай бұрын
A molecular disruptor
@mollywantshugs59442 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t explosives have effect by boiling their tissue? Life is mostly water and protein, and boiling water is usually enough to make proteins in the water denature and stop working. High explosives are very good at liquifying living creatures.
@hadesflame93423 жыл бұрын
You said a Shoggoth cant reach a plain but you stated a shoggith can form anything and that they're smart fast and strong whats stopping a Shoggoth from forming wings or morphing into a winged like creature
@SandyofCthulhu3 жыл бұрын
They aren't literal shapeshifters into any physical creature. They stay a blob monster at all times. Maybe you could gradually, in steps, get them first to build bones, then muscle, etc., until they had wings, helping construct them over time.
@hadesflame93423 жыл бұрын
@@SandyofCthulhu cant help but love these creatures lol 🤣
@SandyofCthulhu3 жыл бұрын
@@hadesflame9342 16 pairs of lips to kiss you with
@hadesflame93423 жыл бұрын
@@SandyofCthulhu iv seen Shoggoth monster girl waifu no lie would go for it 🤣 plus in D&d i alway try to smash tiamat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@RantingThespian3 жыл бұрын
Soak it in acid. If you have enough corrosive acid, it will dissolve the whole thing. Just fill a hole with enough acid, cover it with leaves, and kill it Looney Tunes style.
@ukaszstrzelecki91572 жыл бұрын
W… we came from… Shoggoths? (-10 sanity points)
@detronionkenlan2 ай бұрын
So i know this is an old video, but i really don't get how a shogoth could be made out of protoplasm, because that is basically a liquid. it would make the shogoth a giant water ballon and shooting it with any automatic weapon would drain it pretty quickly, even if it can close the holes rapidly. fun fact: this is how t-killer-cells work, they make holes into cells to drain them of plasm. in my opinion the whole idea of the shogoth only makes sense if it is made of cells like most higher animals and plants. it would also explain how it can quickly reform parts of itself, because they are sectioned of from the rest of the organism. if it was one connected cell any enzymes or transmitters (or toxins from the outside) released inside the body would affect the whole shoggoth indescriminedly. and i think we can also see that a shoggoth would be made ouf cells if we look at nanite constructs from other sci fi. the reason they can do so many differnt things and can survive from being ripped apart is because they are made from semi independent entitys like cells and tiny robots. and since each of these smaller instances of the creature can specialize, you get all the cool stuff you dircribed like form explosives, release slime etc. in regards to how to beat a shoggoth, i think anything is fine as long as you acn do it for long enough. regenerating, moving as fast as a train all this should cost the shoggoth energy. plus releasing energy would gernarate plenty of heat, that the shoggoth would have to get rid of somehow, esspecially since it is so large, so i think exaustion trough hunger or heat could become a real problem for the shoggoth in a prolonged fight. plus any cellular metabolism known to us has toxic byprodacts that you have to get rid of somehow and since the its motabolism is that fast the soggoth is more strongly affected, so even if the shoggoth can find more food, it would probably poison itself over time. so tire it out throug evasion, then hunt it down to finish the job.
@garybobst9107 Жыл бұрын
---how much is that SHOGGOTH in the window? The one with red hell-fire eyes?I sure hope that shoggoth's for sale....
@elunicocalvo3 жыл бұрын
Think about all of the contemporary art a shoggoth could/would love to make. Why fighting it when we could use it as a money laundering machine.
@CycoSven695 жыл бұрын
Vaccum? Deadly bacteria?
@SandyofCthulhu5 жыл бұрын
sure, if you can get a shoggoth into a vacuum. They're really heavy though. Deadly bacteria seem too slow-acting.
@dubuyajay9964 Жыл бұрын
Elder Things video plz. Since they made the Shoggoths.
@SplotchTheCatThing3 жыл бұрын
Getting into this :) Got a thought, though... Cytotoxins sound more interesting to me, 'cause if something like a Shoggoth were realistically possible, it be either be an amorphous mass of cells, or, technically, one enormous cell. There's not really another option given the way we define "cells". Whichever way that worked it would still need to at least have things like proteins and organelles and chromosomes (though probably not nuclei) in order for its body to function -- those things would essentially have to be the entire machinery of its body. You have a toxin that interferes with any one of those things, it interferes with those things whether they exist within something that you're calling a cell or not. Even if that machinery takes different shapes from the way it does in regular ol' Earthly life, it probably still functions on similar principles that can be disrupted in similar ways, especially if Earthly life evolved its own form and pathways from Shoggoths. This would mean that cytoplasm with its contents and shoggoth protoplasm with its own aren't entirely different from one another. And if you can disrupt that basic machinery enough, then you can disrupt everything the Shoggoth does -- turning itself into one big muscle, sloughing off damaged outer layers, you name it -- because while that basic machinery gives it that versatility, without any permanent organs and tissues it's also, really, the only machinery the beast has. Getting a large enough dose to kill it might still be problematic, but I wouldn't be surprised if a toxin like that would be more effective on an amorphous protoplasmic being like a Shoggoth than it would be on a more complex being with a lot of differentiated tissues and organs like a cat-thing or a human. There's another thing that occurred to me while I was writing all this, which is, that in order for such a massive beast to exist in any effective way on land it would need to form and maintain some kind of hardened structure within itself, or it would collapse under its own weight. Now bones are difficult things to grow -- just ask anybody who's ever broken one :) While the Shoggoth could certainly repair itself eventually from a break in that structure, that would probably be much slower than any other kind of self-repair it can do. If you break enough of the structure that the rest can't support the beast's weight and collapses in on itself, the Shoggoth probably wouldn't be able to overcome that weight in order to repair its "skeleton" while still on land, and... while it probably wouldn't die, it wouldn't be able to move or attack very well either. So with that in mind, if you were able to somehow cut off the Shoggoth's access to deep water (that's probably the hard part of this plan XD ), a lot of small explosives -- not big enough to split the monster into a whole bunch of smaller monsters, but still big enough to wreck parts of that internal structure it needs -- could work to put the beast into a vulnerable state where you could much more easily kill it by other means.
@grindsaur5 жыл бұрын
Aggressive prions perhaps?
@SandyofCthulhu5 жыл бұрын
that might well work - interference with the shoggoth proteins. But again seems kind of slow. Plus I bet the shoggoth could create an organ to make enzymes to break up the prions.
@requiescantenpace4 жыл бұрын
They could be reasoned with, no?
@wayfarerzen33934 жыл бұрын
Sonic guns and microwave guns would kill or debilitate them
@SandyofCthulhu4 жыл бұрын
1) we don't have sonic guns that are portable. 2) we don't have microwave guns that are portable. 3) while I'm sure a microwave gun would be able to fry or hurt a portion of a shoggoth, it's still not a magic bullet. Not sure if a sonic gun would work. When the germans tried to build one, it took somewhere around 90 seconds to damage an unmoving target.
@m0tv1nd9 ай бұрын
I was curious about their limits. Could they grow wings and fly? Wheels like a transformer? Electric charges like an eel if their phone is running low on batteries?
@friendlyheretic91035 ай бұрын
They can probably do all of that, but limited by physics. When it comes to flying, being much more durable and way stronger than any bird, pterosaur or mammal smaller shoggoths would be able to fly with wings despite being much larger than any living or extinct flying animal, but there is probably a size limit, their strength and rigidity of their structures can't increase infinitely to keep up with their size
@CookieMonster-nt8hh3 жыл бұрын
id go for acid. you can use fire trucks and helicopters to put a LOT of acid on it. hopefully enough of it will get through
@TheAverageAnarchist13 жыл бұрын
What about the use of Acid attacks?
@calculatroncalculatron15563 жыл бұрын
So... Doomguy versus Shoggoth? Who wins?
@executioner_ecgbert8842 жыл бұрын
Why am I watching this?
@PokemonButcher5 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Let's hear it people; if a shoggoth learned human English, what accent would be most horrifying to hear as 60 tons of sentient, shape-shifting, all-consuming protoplasm, hurtling at the speed of a subway car, bears down upon you?
@SandyofCthulhu5 жыл бұрын
star-headed high-pitched fluting Old One? Computery robotic? EXACTLY THE SAME VOICE AS YOUR BEST FRIEND WHO IT KILLED AND STOLE HIS VOCAL CORDS?
@PokemonButcher5 жыл бұрын
@@SandyofCthulhu The true horror incited by mimics: the simulated familiarity yet completely alien nature that pressures the player into mistrusting every person and object. Although, an angry Scottish voice would be terrifying as well!
@SandyofCthulhu5 жыл бұрын
@@PokemonButcher or a southern drawl.
@NyarlathotepCrawlingChaos4 жыл бұрын
A shoggoth coming at you full speed with a deep southern or hillbilly accent, saying “You got a purdy mouth, boy! Gonna make you squeal like a pig!”