How to fit an Acros Integrated cable routing headset

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The Yorkshire Bike Mechanic

The Yorkshire Bike Mechanic

10 ай бұрын

A challenging job but a lot of new bikes are fitted with these new style headsets, I show you how it's done, plus a free review product givaway.

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@rundt7605
@rundt7605 10 ай бұрын
Nothing more Satisfying than watching a really good tradesman ,hats off to you Dave
@IamCutePanda
@IamCutePanda 10 ай бұрын
Agree
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@kevbulmer
@kevbulmer 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant video, as always, so glad my Trek Rail just has normal internal routing
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@stevenbaker5564
@stevenbaker5564 10 ай бұрын
I like the look of the internal cable routing but didn't think about the top bearing and the cables running though great video and well explained in how to replace them.
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@alesbastl7716
@alesbastl7716 4 ай бұрын
I had one of these on my bike when I bought it. It came to the service of my head set and I cannot stress enough how inconvenient this system is. Took it out and installed Hope head set. Happy days. Will be looking forward to my maintenance days from now on :D
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 4 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments
@colchilibeck
@colchilibeck 25 күн бұрын
What did you do for running the shifter and brake lines? Did you some how attache them on the outside??
@alesbastl7716
@alesbastl7716 25 күн бұрын
Luckily the manufacture of my frame (FOCUS) kept the side ports in place and only put blanking plates on them. So I just opened them and ran all the cables through there. I understand that this is not an option of everyone though. Even FOCUS on their new frame got rid of them. So I was VERY lucky
@honuwilson8113
@honuwilson8113 6 ай бұрын
Hey Dave! Thank you so much for the informative video! My Mondraker foxy uses an across headset although it did not include any rubber stoppers. I have a snapping/ creeping noise that comes from the headset since I got the bike. I was totally lost as to how to replace the headset but this helps a ton! Thank you!
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 6 ай бұрын
You are welcome.
@Paulo-fr3xm
@Paulo-fr3xm 10 ай бұрын
Great video again Dave, definitely a deal breaker for me, turns a 20 minutes job to clean out or change the bearings into a 2 hour job at least and a lot of unnecessary work. I'll stick to externally routed or ports thanks on my rail
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@kevinward6680
@kevinward6680 10 ай бұрын
Super informative as usual! Well done!
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@johntheman2006
@johntheman2006 10 ай бұрын
Great stuff. I disassembled my headset to get my ebike in the boot of my car, and then had to mess about with it at the other end. Never again, and that was just a taster of what you’ve contended with.
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@funnelfpv9435
@funnelfpv9435 4 ай бұрын
Makes me think to buy another ebike. I was just removing the fork for servicing and noticed it would be a PITA to change the top bearing if it needed a replacement. Your video confirms it pretty well. Thanks god the top one is perfectly fine on mine. Never thought of such a servicing scenario when buying the bike.
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 4 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments
@DadventuresMTB
@DadventuresMTB 3 ай бұрын
my cube action team is the same, such a ball ach to do... why cant they just run em through the frame... i got quoted 140 quid to change a 2 bearings... just because of this...
@GpoppaJohn
@GpoppaJohn 10 ай бұрын
You’re a fountain of knowledge Dave and your videos are so informative. How and when did you get started on bikes? Is there anything you don’t know about bikes?
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@Bo_yet
@Bo_yet 10 ай бұрын
My go to when it comes to e-bike education, keep it up good sir!
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@carlton683
@carlton683 10 ай бұрын
Good job Dave well done 👍
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@karldbaker1978
@karldbaker1978 8 ай бұрын
I would be happy for all cable routing to be external again, most shifting or functioning issues I’ve had are because of the hoses or cables having to route through frames around tight bends 😂
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 8 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comment. Well said
@colchilibeck
@colchilibeck 25 күн бұрын
I do most of my bike maintenance myself. I think for this, I'll just go to my LBS. Not such a bad thing as it helps them out. Although they may hate me for it! Do you have any recommendations of best integrated headsets? Is that ACROS one pretty good??
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 24 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for your comment, there are not than many on the market at the moment, acros is the main contender.
@johnlesoudeur3653
@johnlesoudeur3653 2 ай бұрын
Not a problem with the Scott system, brake hose with barb/nut passes through OK. I think that you already know that though.
@bambuminatto
@bambuminatto 10 ай бұрын
Good information Dave,thanks. But iam not convinced that we need to cut The brake hose, does not It passes through Theo holes? Or the reason is any other than that?
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments, the only reason is like you say, it dosent slide back through the rubber headset sleaves
@gibfear
@gibfear 9 ай бұрын
Definitely a solution looking for a problem that, completely unnecessary on a mountain bike... I assume it also gives another chance for water to get straight into the headset?!?
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Hi, Thank you for watching and your comment
@AFV85
@AFV85 4 ай бұрын
Just got the same on my new cube action team a couple weeks ago but looking to change my stem so just wondering if it's going to look a mess as there oblong spacers not round im Going to have to have a good look later at my stem see how to work with this swap out, but i see the guys already done it on his Transition there so thats cool to see he's managed to remove his original spacers and replaced with normal ones and just have tue cables running through the bottom main spacer!
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 4 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments
@jameskelly1557
@jameskelly1557 18 күн бұрын
Really helpful video to see how cables are actually routed through headset. I Have one question though, Is it always necessary to cut the brake hose to remove top bearing? it looks like it would easily pass through the top cover and could then be un-clipped from the washer/spacer, or is it just the case that its good practice to use a new barb and olive each time you disconnect the brake?
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 15 күн бұрын
Hi thanks for watching, if the hose will fit through with the fitting than that’s great but more often it won’t go though without cutting
@fabiopunk1661
@fabiopunk1661 4 ай бұрын
interesting and useful. Question: why do you cut the brake hose shorter? can you not re-use the end (complete with fitting and olive)? I just bought a Bianchi and I need a shorter stem - what a job .....
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 4 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comments, thats because the hose fitting wont fit through the headset
@kbass24emtp
@kbass24emtp 10 ай бұрын
My bike has one like that. Big PITA.
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@boggybigpants9462
@boggybigpants9462 10 ай бұрын
I saw a bloke that looked just like you on TV the other day 👍
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments, oh dear it will be my brother
@peglor
@peglor 10 ай бұрын
I don't understand why you cut the end off the brake line. It seals perfectly every time I've tried it (Mostly with Shimano and Magura brakes, and you've got Maguras there) if you just screw the original fitting back into the lever. You can save yourself from having to rebleed the brake every time afterwards by taking the rear wheel out and pumping the lever till the pads are together before you remove the hose from the lever. This puts extra fluid in the brake line/caliper. After reconnecting the line to the lever, lever the pads apart and any air bubble in the brake line will be pushed back into the reservoir, where it will either not cause a problem, or be easily fixed by bleeding the lever only. Unlike with Shimano brakes, bucket bleeds aren't always reliable on Magura brakes, but connecting a syringe and pushing and pulling the fluid in and out a small amount from the lever will get the air bubble quickly and easily, just don't disconnect the syringe while a vacuum is drawn.
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@Primarch_Vulkan
@Primarch_Vulkan Ай бұрын
One of the worst decisions made by the bike industry in recent years was deciding to adopt this trash headset, can we just go back standard routing through the frame. It's the only thing i absolutely despise about my current bike.
@noneofyourbusiness4294
@noneofyourbusiness4294 Ай бұрын
It's indeed annoying to work on. I dort really mind it in the shop, as I'm getting paid to do it. But I dread the day my headset gives up on me. It does look clean though, and to many customers that's important these days
@noneofyourbusiness4294
@noneofyourbusiness4294 Ай бұрын
Oh, now that I'm further in the video, that's even one of the "friendlier" ones. There's another version that has cutouts in the actual top bearing for cables and hoses to go through. That's the one where you have no choice but to cut brake hoses. For this one, you still have to unscrew them, but you don't have to mess with the length.
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic Ай бұрын
More and more manufacturers are taking this option. its a nightmare and so unnecessary, cable restriction, cable wear to name a few. The worst is road bikes, some now integrate through the handlebar, stem and headset. looks neat but awful to work on.
@DadventuresMTB
@DadventuresMTB 3 ай бұрын
very good video well explained for sure ! im still not guna be able to do mine lol ive had my e bike for about a year now and never knew the cables ran through the top bearing lol, back in the day was much easier ! than todays e bikes, it should just run though the frame to make things alot easier... i think its a job for the bike shop if u ask me lol
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@MarkDanielsmusician
@MarkDanielsmusician Ай бұрын
Cheers Dave....looks like a right job, question.... if i just left the bung on the brake line would i still need to cut... looks like all the other componets slip off...sure you have tried though..
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic Ай бұрын
thanks for watching and you comments. The problem is that in order to change the top bearing the hoses/cables have to be fed back through the headset cover which has just small holes that are only big enough for the hose to go through without any fittings hense the reason for cutting them
@MarkDanielsmusician
@MarkDanielsmusician Ай бұрын
@@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic Yep..... I know your right, sorry to make you say the same line yet again... i should have read the posts..... Keep up the great vids Dave!
@domagoj.simundic
@domagoj.simundic 3 ай бұрын
Hi Dave, is it normal for this headset to have a certain resistance when rotating the handlebar? I can only apply small amount of preload torque before turning becomes frictioned. Thanks
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments, no not really, it should be free, double check that all parts are fitted in the correct order
@MrSupermugen
@MrSupermugen 7 ай бұрын
do you have a link/part number to that upper headset?
@mdesign8675
@mdesign8675 16 күн бұрын
Can I use any grease to press the headset into the frame or is there something different about the Acros grease in the sachets?
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 15 күн бұрын
Hi thanks for watching, it’s more of an anti-seize grease as their is no lubricant needed, but any grease is better than no grease
@IamCutePanda
@IamCutePanda 10 ай бұрын
Cool dude!
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@bcr1973.
@bcr1973. 10 ай бұрын
What brand is that handlebar holder? I could use one in the workshop..
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments, not sure we have had it for years and all the labels have come off
@ronicallmen
@ronicallmen 6 ай бұрын
It fits for all head tube or on for specific. What is min diameter of fork pipe is required, as I have 28.6 and what should the internal head tube diameter.
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 5 ай бұрын
Hi, it's specific to the same size top bearing as the top
@airlanggagilang
@airlanggagilang 10 ай бұрын
Hi, this is very helpful. I have the same bike and indeed have a same problem. Could you kindly share the link to buy the headset from across, currently I used similar nukeproof megawatt headset as replacement, but it would be nice if I could get the across one.
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@johnlesoudeur3653
@johnlesoudeur3653 Ай бұрын
Why not contact Acros directly, I have always found them helpful and their website is useful with headset choice.
@SzwedunioWiesz
@SzwedunioWiesz 2 ай бұрын
I'm looking for my road stem 120mm in Acros system... any ideas???? On Acros page there use ZERO road stems.... are there anything else compatibile with the ACROS system?
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 2 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks for watching, The acros system still confuses me as to whats compatible or not.
@conashudixit810
@conashudixit810 7 ай бұрын
Hello Dave, I am putting together a bike from scratch and I was not able to find any info regarding the cable housing. I have a similar headset as the one in this video and I don’t know if the cable housing should run all the way to the derailleur or it should stop after it enters the down tube. Any hint would be greatly appreciated.
@yonglingng5640
@yonglingng5640 7 ай бұрын
This heavily varies from bike to bike, may I ask what bike are you building along with the groupset you're going to spec it with?
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 7 ай бұрын
Hi, can I ask what frame is it
@conashudixit810
@conashudixit810 7 ай бұрын
It is an ICAN X-Gravel with integrated cables.
@yonglingng5640
@yonglingng5640 7 ай бұрын
@@conashudixit810 I think it may be like this: Rear derailleur: Full-length housing (I'm sure about this one, almost all such bikes I've worked with run this way) Front derailleur: Housing probably stops inside the BB shell, just before the cable exits the frame, check with a mechanic if you need to
@conashudixit810
@conashudixit810 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the advice. In the meantime I have decided to go all the way on internal housing. It works.
@khalidsaidi3359
@khalidsaidi3359 9 ай бұрын
Hi Dave . Zo nice te sie u video pertikkely yo voice . I wil te visit u one day in u shop great. Khalid
@VovanCBR
@VovanCBR 10 ай бұрын
why bearing needs to be replaced on almost new e-bike? what mileage on it?
@Thecrazyvaclav
@Thecrazyvaclav 10 ай бұрын
Bike could be a daily commuter doing couple of hundred miles a month in all weathers, I’m guessing the bearing is useless due to water getting in, it can be very wet in Yorkshire
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments, 1 year old
@qibble455
@qibble455 10 ай бұрын
Hey Dave. It's raining here too.
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
boiling here today, its nutz
@Govermentsound
@Govermentsound 10 ай бұрын
Big job just to replace headset bearings 😵‍💫
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@powerbikesbg
@powerbikesbg 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! This type of headset is nightmare for service and wiring
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@Ballynoes
@Ballynoes 10 ай бұрын
As you say Dave, bit of a faff..but as bikes become more complicated and sleak, it's what will inevitably evolve with them. 😉
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@waynepennock115
@waynepennock115 8 ай бұрын
Is it possible to only change the bearings without removing the cups? Seems like a waste to me 🙈Love the videos entertaining and informative 👍👍
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 8 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comment. No because the gear and brake hoses go through the center
@waynepennock115
@waynepennock115 8 ай бұрын
Hi, so the bearing won’t separate from the cup to be replaced and then the cables and hoses fed through? I appreciate that the whole unit has to be removed to complete the job, surely it’s only the bearings that fail 🤔
@yonglingng5640
@yonglingng5640 7 ай бұрын
@@waynepennock115 This is why more waste is generated when conducting a headset bearing replacement on bikes with this routing configuration. You'd have to discard what are perfectly reusable hydraulic hoses only because they're too short after they're cut to discard the hydraulic olives that are otherwise too big to fit through cockpits, although some shops cut just the olive and reinstall with a new one.
@alistairfraser4604
@alistairfraser4604 6 ай бұрын
I need to just replace the bottom bearings. Can i re use the cup or will they get damaged when i knock them out?
@geofftheriddler
@geofftheriddler 10 ай бұрын
These things are really close to a deal breaker for me
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@user-gw7mi4ft3o
@user-gw7mi4ft3o 2 ай бұрын
why cut the brake hose
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 2 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for watching, in order to pull the hose back through the top cap
@rockhopper70
@rockhopper70 10 ай бұрын
What a faff. Seems completely unnecessary too, it’s not exactly untidy to run cables and hoses into frame ports in the head tube. Perfect example of the designers not speaking to the engineers and looking for a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist..
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@1jwh1
@1jwh1 10 ай бұрын
I know your pain,That Used to be a £20 job, time = labour Add in a possible bleed/hose,readjust gears re cable dropper, Bike designers need to understand what it takes to maintain these nightmare designs,all because of vanity.really??get a grip! Hopefully the customer understands why it costs extra. Atb John 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@tekink8143
@tekink8143 Ай бұрын
I don't see the point of this internal cabe routing on this MTB frame given that all of the wires and hoses are still exposed after coming out of the headset area. It is a pain to replace those bearings as shown in this video. If it was one of those newer road frames that hide all cables/hoses inside the bar and stem it would make senses but not this!
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic Ай бұрын
Hi thanks for watching and your comment
@zwingler
@zwingler 7 ай бұрын
What a nightmare. Im happy im not servicing these bikes and keep my own very simple.
@kentb3175
@kentb3175 10 ай бұрын
Great video as always but what a really stupid design with no real benefit for the consumer.
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments, depends on where you want to ride it and how hard or just to tootle around on?
@vlbz
@vlbz 8 ай бұрын
How to fit an integrated cable headset? Don't:))
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 8 ай бұрын
Hi, Thanks for watching and your comment. Well said
@bod3000
@bod3000 10 ай бұрын
Looks like time consuming pain in the ass
@northman77
@northman77 10 күн бұрын
That's so stupid... So unecessary! It should be a 10 minutes job. Now we have to disconnect the cables, cut the brake cable, bleed the brakes and fight all these in place 🤦
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 10 күн бұрын
Yep, nuts I agree
@serjturischev9557
@serjturischev9557 9 ай бұрын
what a terrible color of frame 🤢🤢
@camperp195
@camperp195 10 ай бұрын
Did this last month on my cube stereo,a massive pain in the ass,and sometimes the compression ring breaks as its so thin,and,the bearings dont come out easy as they are pressed in,and having to take the cups out just to get the bearings out is a bad design,acros charge a fortune for bearing sets,i just bought the bearings instead,bad design!
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comments
@rarebreed1984
@rarebreed1984 22 күн бұрын
Do you really need a headset press for this?
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic
@TheYorkshireBikeMechanic 21 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for watching and your comments, if your gonna do a proper job then yes you do
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