How to Fix Muddy Metal Guitars (Andy Sneap C4 Trick Explained)

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How to Fix Muddy Metal Guitars (Andy Sneap C4 Trick Explained)

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Hey there, Scott here from Chernobyl Studios and in this video I'm going to walk you through the famous Andy Sneap C4 trick.
More importantly, I'm going to show you exactly how to dial in a multiband compressor and explain the trick so that you can deal with muddy metal guitars effectively and quickly.
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00:00 - Intro
00:15 - Why This Trick Works
01:45 - Demonstrating Muddy Metal Guitar Problem
02:33 - How To Use This Trick (And What To Listen For)
08:15 - Demonstrating The Difference
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@gargolanecro 2 жыл бұрын

this is what i was looking for my 9 string guitar with 2 drops A, to play some slams, thanks

@claytongouin5605 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, this is a cool trick. I've been using a multi-band EQ as a polishing technique on my Master bus, but had never considered using it one guitar tracks. This is way better than just a basic EQ notch in the muddy frequencies, because it's dynamic instead of a static cut in the frequency spectrum. Thanks for this tip and explaining it's purpose, use, and how to dial it in and what to listen for.

@Denver_Risley 2 жыл бұрын

I've heard it described but never really saw it being used. Fantastic! In MIXING YOUR FIRST METAL SONG you demonstrate some dynamic EQ moves on those palm mutes. I'd like to know more about dynamic EQ moves like that, how, why, etc. Thanks for sharing.

@barneycockburn 2 жыл бұрын

My lord… this lesson was as incredible as the mix itself. Heffy, heffy, HEFFFFFFFY!!!

@CoreyHunter 11 ай бұрын

This is a nice supplement to the RHYTHM GUITARS section in MIXING YOUR FIRST METAL SONG. Cheers!

@nicksmith8557 8 ай бұрын

Hi Scott, thanks for the clear and informative explanation and demonstration of how to achieve this. I have struggled with this issue for years until today! Keep up the good work and thanks for posting!

@jeremythornton433 2 жыл бұрын

I am so very glad you're using Cubase! It's the DAW that I use too. This makes it easy for me. Thank you very much!

@Foodlefutsdeluxe 2 жыл бұрын

The gratitude of the community for all that you share with us is ineffable.

@OmegaStationMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial, thanks for sharing it Scott!

@BalashToth 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, just found this channel and this is the clearest way somebody ever showed this in any video on KZfaq. Thanks

@nkogliaz 2 жыл бұрын

TDR Nova works great for this also and is free, this has saved me numerous times during mixdown with guitars and synths.

@kenhomeier8629 Жыл бұрын

Good instruction and in depth on dealing with lower tunings. Awesome.

@eddya5490 9 ай бұрын

Good stuff!!

@RolandDeschain1 2 жыл бұрын

If Slate or Pro Mix Academy could get Andy Sneap to do a metal mixing video course I'd pay $1000 for it.

@AndreiGrozea 2 жыл бұрын

the way that man makes everything sit in a mix is insane

@RolandDeschain1 2 жыл бұрын

@@AndreiGrozea I've been listening to 'Firepower' a lot lately and it's so clean and crisp it makes you want to give up. He did the same with Megadeth's 'Endgame'. That was their best album in 20 years.

@AndreiGrozea 2 жыл бұрын

@@RolandDeschain1 yea i loved endgame too

@MorgothBagluir 2 жыл бұрын

@@RolandDeschain1 What is this album you are referring to, I don't know it but would like to listen

@AndreiGrozea 2 жыл бұрын

@@MorgothBagluir judas priest

@matthewjoshua1025 2 жыл бұрын

Finally, some insight into how to mix those smashing guitar tones (no reference to the pumpkins).

@justinbiever9165 2 жыл бұрын

Was doing your course, then had a look at your youtube channel and couldn't recognise you. Thought this was your elder brother or something. I hope you're keeping well man!!! Much respect and appreciation for your knowledge in metal mixing, I'm slowly learning it :)

@PaulEubanks 2 жыл бұрын

A big reason this happens is due to poor speaker cab design. Mesa oversized cabs are especially bad about this. What's going on is the giant rear baffle isn't secured properly to the center brace stud, and the rear baffle resonates sympathetically w/ the speakers, causing a massive woofing sound when you palm mute. That's the spike you see in your EQ metering that you're trying to correct for. Eventually when the cab is old enough, the baffle will actually start rattling (!!) against that center brace stud making the cab completely fart out during some palm muted notes. It sounds like a jackhammer. The way to fix is either to drill a fastening screw directly through the baffle into the center brace stud (like the quality cab makers do out of the shop), or you can fasten a piece of material between the center brace and the rear cab baffle to serve as a dampening shim between the baffle and center brace. I've used neoprene in the past with good results. It's better to fix these issues with poor cab design first before you start tracking, that way you don't have to waste your time with corrective MB compressors or EQ tweaking later on.

@Ricardo14712 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate you brother!!!!

@MrNoHopeDoomcore 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing Scott!

@AlexeySolovievMusic 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video! Thank you so much Scott! Learning much from you my friend 😀👍

@GoreSamuel 2 жыл бұрын

You just got a new subscriber! This is exactly the issue that I've been having. Thank you for this video!

@russtycogg324 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Scott. Really helpful, man.

@leearmitage 2 жыл бұрын

another great tip, been using this for quiet a while

@kirshmanFlash 2 жыл бұрын

This is great! thanks for putting this together!

@CrushingAxes 2 жыл бұрын

Even the muddy guitars sound nice! Really cool tones dude!

@padraig88 Жыл бұрын

Love the content man, what free Low/High filters would you recommend?

@dmitrii4799 Жыл бұрын

May I still let it kick and have +3dB but additionally lower all the mix down, to avoid clipping and overload?

@geewasabi Жыл бұрын

Hello thank for these tips. But can i ask. Why you didnt use an EQ cut instead? Pls enlighten me. Thank you so nuch.

@ChernobylAudio666 Жыл бұрын

The EQ cut would be a constant cut that was applied during your whole mix, regardless of what would be happening in the frequency range. With the multiband, it reacts to how much information is in the frequency range and adjusts, i.e., it only takes out a certain amount of frequency in relation to how much frequency information there is. Where a -3dB EQ would always cut -3dB from the frequency regardless if the area needed it or not, the multiband reacts to the signal, which makes it sound more natural and only does work when the frequencies reached a certain threshold where they are a problem.

@Vinlandsraud 2 жыл бұрын

Monumental video/guidelines. But I've got one for you, a tricky one; Guitar solo's. Yea, its an solo, like a vocalist type ov mix since it should sharpteeth its way outta the mix, be distinct. How would you approach this ting MasterMaestro? And yeah, i'm hitting on the walls of extreme metal, or metal in general. I've been noobing around this disc for years, never found the magical trick. I've Even used the golden trick on eq, those "bring it to life areas" middle and high, lowcut it as a massacre, but I just can't make it all shine through. Best Regards Brother! Keep yar torch lit 🍻

@ChernobylAudio666 2 жыл бұрын

Solos in metal need to start with being a completely different chain. Different amp, different cabinets. Cabinets that are voiced different automatically pop out from the rhythm tones. From there, thin out the leads (lows and mid content) and turn it up. Maybe a slight boost around 2-3k, and that's about it. The main thing: creating a tone from a completely different source from the rhythm guitars.

@gardvord 2 жыл бұрын

For us songwriters using Cubase Artist, what would be a good alternative multiband compressor?

@AndreiGrozea 2 жыл бұрын

great video but i can't move my eyes from that ironbird behind you, such a cool guitar

@ChernobylAudio666 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! That was one where when I say it listed it was an immediate buy haha

@GrMfull 2 жыл бұрын

Your guitar sound is awesome ! What gear did you used for ? Cool tip, already use it We can also see problematic frequencies colored in red in fabfilter

@ChernobylAudio666 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man! I used my B.C. Rich in Drop A with Seymour Duncan Invaders right into Fortin Nameless!

@GrMfull 2 жыл бұрын

@@ChernobylAudio666 OMG, it's unbelievable. I thought it was a real amp ! Thank you for the reply

@serge1643 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@jotunbjorn 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if there's a pickup that would help with this. EMG 81 or 60 perhaps.

@ChernobylAudio666 2 жыл бұрын

To a degree they might!

@RamboMadCow 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any tips for using this and your most recent video about the PEQ cut around the 400 - 2k with live shows? I use two Axe FX 3's for my band's 2 guitars and bass so we could basically do this...but eq'ing a live sound is a bit more difficult that doing mixing like this.

@ChernobylAudio666 2 жыл бұрын

Would have to get either yourself or somebody you trust to sit in the middle of a larger-ish room and see how it translates and go from there. One thing I'd say is that for live, you'll need some mids, especially if you want your drummer to hear what you're doing.

@therisendead7 2 жыл бұрын

🤘

@MultiGolonka 2 жыл бұрын

What if I want to do the opposite? I'm trying to do a cover of Nothing Left by Obscure Sphinx. Tuning is double drop D (8 string), and the 8th string low D is just amazingly powerful, yet clear, withour too much distortion. I know what rig they use and I try to replicate it exactly in VST plugins. Major difference are strings though - their low D is .105, mine is .80. Would fresh, thicker strings make that much difference?

@ChernobylAudio666 2 жыл бұрын

The tone would most definitely be fatter because the mass of the string is bigger.

@MultiGolonka 2 жыл бұрын

@@ChernobylAudio666 Thanks, that means I got to try it, question is if I can fit .105 in my guitar. I know they used basically the same ones that I have, just newer ones with an inch longer scale and different markers since these were their endorsement guitars

@fetusbelt6851 2 жыл бұрын

I love how much better the steinberg 4 band is than the c4 ha ha

@MorgothBagluir 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Scott, I purchased your guitar tone mastery course, how can I join your discord server?

@ChernobylAudio666 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man! When you're in Spectra Digital page looking at the videos, there will be a link to download resources as well as a video link about Discord channels. It's the 2nd or 3rd video I believe

@MorgothBagluir 2 жыл бұрын

@@ChernobylAudio666 Well, I actually bought your course from PMA, so there are no instructions as to how to join the discord :(