What's YOUR favorite Amp Sim? Let me know in the comments 👇👇👇
@Real_Epic4 ай бұрын
i have a problem with low-mid and low-end in my DI guitars even using the roll-off on the interface :( cab simulator ML Sound Lab MIKKO2 (free version!) sounds incredable for high-end you can litterally copy-paste a second track with a different mic without any phase issues! 57 and 414 mic blend on seperate tracks i don't suggest having 2 mics on 1 track :) *figured out my low-end DI guitar issue... using a sterling interface DO NOT use the inpiuts on the back use the front inputs they REALLY are tailored for instruments 💀💀💀
@RaytownProductions4 ай бұрын
@Real_Epic Try using a multiband compressor with just the low band engaged. That helps to smooth all that out. I'll make a video about this in the next month or two! Thanks for the comment🤘
@Real_Epic4 ай бұрын
@@RaytownProductions thank you! :)
@lovekilss4 ай бұрын
Overloud TH-U , for some reason it sounds way better than neural DSP and STL tones 🤦♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@demoinglife4 ай бұрын
Mixwave mike stringer has been my go-to for months
@bernardwilliamson22574 ай бұрын
Or just get older and you cant hear a difference at all😢
@paulcooper59044 ай бұрын
As a 73 yr old I can definitely relate to that!!
@RaytownProductions4 ай бұрын
Sometimes it can be hard to tell with the guitar tone, but maybe you will notice much more clarity with the other instruments. Try focusing your ears on the top end of the voice and the drums instead of the guitar maybe? Hope that helps!
@jessecantrell4 ай бұрын
😂
@rome81804 ай бұрын
In addition to cuts like this, I'll also often use a tape emulation plugin. Tape has a great way of softening the high end.
@RaytownProductions4 ай бұрын
Yessss!! Waves Kramer tape does this for me on guitars and also drums! (Just have to be careful not to kill the drum transients!)
@InTheSh84 ай бұрын
You actually said it right! Most people swear on the exact 4K placement. But the truth is you have to search for the sizzle manually and often it sits lower than 4K and at around 4K there is nothing annoying. I had that with many NAM-Profiles. I also search for a rumbling directly after the 120 Hz low cut and reduce it. It is annoying, but trust him, it is worth the work. The drums will "magically" sound tighter and clearer when you remove harsh guitar frequencies.
@win8win774 ай бұрын
Also try to cut a bit from 500 to 1k, to make it it sit. Distortion is a wide spectrum of frequencies like any white noize or synth, and needs to be shaped for your mix 100%. Thanks for the video
@oldguysplaymetal55174 ай бұрын
Agree and almost always low pass distorted guitar around 8 K, and then high pass under 80 or so. The 12 inch "woofer" that sits in a guitar cab, isn't going to produce much energy in frequencies above 7-8K since it is such a large speaker with no metallic or other designated tweeter. Another trick that seems to be coming of age, with amp sims, is that turning down the interface gain to zero, and then reducing the "input" gain on the amp sim, can make a huge difference in the "spongy" texture so many have.
@RaytownProductions4 ай бұрын
Nice!!! I didn't know that. I'll have to try it out 🤘
@zeclomal22653 ай бұрын
I use Tonehub. Usually guitars on Feldmann or Sam Pura's packs. I do a LP at 100hz and a HP at 10k. Then a cut between 3-4k. Sometimes a cut at 3.5k and another one at 4k so I remove all the unwanted noise that I hear there. Also I found that I don't like how 2.3k and 2.8k sound. I like how these frequencies sound isolated but in the contest of the mix they add a harsh noise that I don't like so I cut a little bit there until it's not a problem to my ears anymore.
@guidorehder68024 ай бұрын
I use Revalver for most of my guitar tracks. It never sounds bad and it allows me to include free amp sims.
@ryanfishel93944 ай бұрын
Another great video, Bobby! It's been 25 years since I mic'd a cab, so I don't even remember what's "natural" anymore. Lately I've been trying to EQ my sims less, so I've been trying to be gentle on this high fizz frequencies, but I think you're right, I gotta just roll it all off. I went back over a mix now, and the guitars really do sit better -- cymbals are more gentle too. So thanks again! You always seem to have the pulse on great mixing tips.
@justinplaysguitar4 ай бұрын
Just a high cut. They do that cause clean channels on modelers sound great at those hz but those distortions you gotta use a 7-10 k cut
@ovicaloni19234 ай бұрын
I use the treble knob in the amp sim or the one knob on the guitar for this.
@Vdrummer1824 ай бұрын
Exactly what I needed. Just applied this and it really worked. Thank you so much \m/
@RaytownProductions4 ай бұрын
Hell yeah man! Glad it helped!
@wonkastudio-johnny4 ай бұрын
good tips...i usually cut at 3k or i will just cut it at the source before the DAW...axe fx
@Songaholica11 күн бұрын
You just fit it into the song.Most times it's 4 to 5k , Marshall-wise but sometimes it surprises me !!
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn4 ай бұрын
I do this, but play with how many dB per octave the low pass filter is cutting. Sometimes, cutting less per octave, but moving the filter down further works better. You can tame that 3 to 5k stuff you cut, in a smoother way that actually notching it out.
@jaredt39854 ай бұрын
I saw Kristian Kohle do exactly that in a video once, and I’ve been doing that ever since. Sounds way more natural and less phasey to me.
@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn4 ай бұрын
@@jaredt3985 I don't watch a lot of his videos, but I think perhaps I've seen it. I have a habit of playing the progression just on the high E and B strings to add bite, so it's just natural to want to low pass those tracks.
@GappyDanZ4 ай бұрын
Also a low cut at around 100h is good too as below that is just tumble and the bass will fill that gap anyway
@jakesmith450619 күн бұрын
great info. I just got a TONEX pedal and I will use your info to fix the sound of this thing. So far I haven't been impressed with the TONEX pedal. Perhaps now things will go better with the sound. I'm old school when it comes to recording. Real amps and mics are hard to beat. Thanks again Brother.
@eyedovoicesКүн бұрын
Odd you are seeing/hearing fizzyness with the ToneX, I have the one pedal and use the VST version of it as well, and it so far has been the most realistic and least fizzy/fuzzy sounding sim/digital modeler I have used, I almost always use EQ anyways on the tone though to fine tune the tone.
@alejandrososa23104 ай бұрын
great explanation and examples! tks Bobby
@elguitarTom3 ай бұрын
Or you can play along with the guitar and amp to your drum plugin and tweak the settings on the amp so it sit well with the drums. A trick is to listen to the drums and what the guitar sound is doing to them. You can actually make your drum sounds more soft or harsh depending on your amp settings. Also best to adjust treble before the highs to avoid you make it too bright.
@Motosportz4 ай бұрын
And my favorite amp sims... * All free AidA-X - This one can do it all by loading IRs. Clean to crunchy - LeXtac Weird choice I know but I get some really good sounds from it. Very Fender plus and witht he FIRE distortion used sparingly and a nice verb it sounds great. 80's studio shred - Anything by Ignite. Emissary, NRR-1 etc need separate cab sims (IR) VanHalen - Nick Crow 7170 Ignite TPA-1 poweramp sim works great on some pre/cabs. Blue Cat stuff is good So fun.
@hollowmenrule4 ай бұрын
Funny and super helpful. 2 free ones you gotta check out are swanky Amp and analog obsession JAMP bot are great then wit analog obsession KABIN. Swanky sounds great distorted with the right stuff jump is more alt indy but has a great Amp like tone
@Motosportz4 ай бұрын
Interesting. I just got back into writing music and recording. Using Bitwig and a bunch of guitar plugins and came to the same conclusion on my own. I also cap the low end for unnatural sounding bass output. Some mic/Cab sims (IR) do a great job of of handling this for you. Also the free "Fire" distortion plugin is amazing. Get it, read the quick notes as there is a lot to it with compression, selectable band distortion and limiting. Has a eq setup to do exactly what you describe.
@rockf3knr4 ай бұрын
Spot on with this vid. And, current sim fav: Two notes GENOME
@KeenanCrow4 ай бұрын
My one move: choose a different, less fizzy IR
@xNoktemAeternus22 ай бұрын
The best move
@satanistruth6664 ай бұрын
I would use a different IR, I dont think it has anythig to do with the amp
@rubenmedina50504 ай бұрын
Thank you, great info
@Rose-oak-cake4 ай бұрын
I’ll filter all the way down to 4.5-5k sometimes. Usually 6k and under
@RaytownProductions4 ай бұрын
Wow! That seems really low to me, but every song is different. 🙂
@JamesJones-th3ml4 ай бұрын
Try Genome, Th-U, and also S Gear AND Soft Tube ENGL and Metal Suites. They all don't have that stupid high thing... Less filter = Better tone!!!
@petset7715 күн бұрын
Glad you said you'd roll it back farther, because I was just typing that suggestion. Also, couldn't you cut the irritating buzzy 3.7 just on the guitar track and deal with vocals on their own? That's the irritating range rectifier sims seem to love, and it ruins overdriven electric guitar.
@NikedasSirekiosКүн бұрын
Hey good stuff man. Sometimes less is more.
@BusbybeatsАй бұрын
Great information, thank you!
@kierenmoore32364 ай бұрын
Nailed it.
@SparkySparkSparkles4 ай бұрын
Bro, You just changed my game. Bless you for the EQ breakdown for dummies. You are loved.
@RaytownProductions4 ай бұрын
❤❤❤ thank you so so much
@skudgyy4 ай бұрын
It sounds great and I'm definitely going to improve now that I know this, but for now it's so impossible to tell where those noises are when I'm trying to work an EQ. Blessings of being a complete novice with guitar tones and mixing, I guess.
@N8oRMusic4 ай бұрын
your button should say "Eat, Sleep, Produce, Loop"
@andriealinsangao61320 күн бұрын
Ha ha! Yep, that's more fitting!
@BigBadMadden954 ай бұрын
I find that no matter how much i low pass i always get some sizzle. Like ive tried rolling off all the way down to like 4k and obviously it soubds like far away but still fizzy
@RaytownProductions4 ай бұрын
Try those EQ cuts I showed! That might be the ticket 🤘
@80s_kid4 ай бұрын
1:53 No, it doesn't even sound good in solo mode.😅 (It sounds like when you don't set the dry/wet knob to 100% in the IR loader plugin. The EQ tips are useful regardless.)
@danielnielsen69004 ай бұрын
What sounds good in solo might not sound good in the mix.
@andriealinsangao61320 күн бұрын
@@danielnielsen6900Yes, and vice versa!
@lostinpa-dadenduro75554 ай бұрын
If you put a BBE Sonic Maximizer in the amp’s effect loop you can have sizzle for days. 😂
@Durkhead4 ай бұрын
I think you just need better irs my amp sims dont sound like that
@Wrath_Starz4 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! 🎸🤘
@davidasher224 ай бұрын
Beautiful!
@joeycovington46814 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@TakeHit013 күн бұрын
A better way to do this would be to move the mic placement on your amp sim around until you get just the right amount of sizzle. Doing this makes the guitars feel lifeless
@escapegulag43174 ай бұрын
as if ampsims have more fizz than a micd cab.
@KennethACrashwaggonMusic4 ай бұрын
Oh they do. Almost all of them and I've used and owned a lot of them. A good ribbon mic (instead of the awful 57 everyone swears by, which WILL give you plenty of fizz) on a cab kills anything else. I wish more people would actually learn how to mic a cab properly instead of searching for IR's. Too much work I suppose...and I'm probably old...
@samsonlovesyouАй бұрын
I keep getting really annoying resonances bang on the 3.2k mark and around it with the UAD Marshall JMP 2203. So it's not so much fizzle as piercing harshness. Haven't been able to work out if it's ALL my guitars having some sort of metallic resonance, fret buzz which only becomes prominent with the amp sim on, my tones being too bright, or if this is a problem with the amp sim other people have encountered. If anyone has ideas to help, I'm all ears. If I cut, it has to be so severe and wide that I lose the nice percussive part of the pick attack.
@ringi19704 ай бұрын
For me I have to say, this amp sim sounds terrible. Ever tried NAM? It is free, and revolutionary. Null tests have the best results out there. Here on YT there are many videos about NAM, showcases, null tests etc. I never had that high fizzy frequencies with any good amp sim. The cab IRs are also a point we have to look at. Bad IRs = bad tones - even if the amp sim is good.
@lovekilss4 ай бұрын
this song and band are so good !
@mullewap66704 ай бұрын
I haved heard that the magic frequenz is 2khz? Isnt so?
@RaytownProductions4 ай бұрын
For me the 3.5-4.5khz is the harsh spot...
@rjgeigersmusic4 ай бұрын
eh i didn't hear much of a difference with your first example, tone was already bee in a bottle also the boost find bad freq then cut trick is almost always bad to do.. you literally are boosting to find something bad of course you are going to hear isolated freq as annoying so you cut it... bad move. if you can't hear the problem without boosting then you probably shouldn't be messing with it. it gives you a false sense of a problem when boosting especially if you are new to mixing
@ExiLeZH4 ай бұрын
Agree, all those higher mid frequencies sound horrible isolated/boosted, should we cut them all?
@rjgeigersmusic4 ай бұрын
nope don't cut anything unless you really know what you are doing and can hear the problem without boosting. boosting gives you a false sense of a problem. any freq you boost like that is going to stick out you know. he does a sweep in the video but nothing really sticks out to me as an issue, you hear the problem but he his boosting it so it creates a problem you know? plus the cut is waaaaay too much. i do agree with him on cutting the super highs like that, a lot of amp sims, software and floor models are harsh and a lot of people do the shelf in the super highs. i should make a video with my take on it because i've been down this road, watched so many videos with the whole boost sweep find bad freq cut "tricks" .. its mostly bs
@MassobliterationАй бұрын
@@rjgeigersmusic Totally agreed with you mate, that "boost the frequency that annoys you the most" trick is false, because like you said, you are boosting something of course it will sound bad. Sometimes people create problems for themselves, the trick i always use is to use reference tracks of bands i like and do my mix based on that.
@ValentineProzorow4 ай бұрын
"We have Bobby Frightbox at home." - "Bobby at home..."
@mathieuandrei27554 ай бұрын
STL Josh middleton
@Depurity4 ай бұрын
Best one out there. It feels very real!
@jaredt39854 ай бұрын
Agreed. I have spent way too much money on amp sims, and STL JM is my favorite by far.
@malcolmrff4 ай бұрын
Is it worth picking up and replacing archetype gojira?
@mathieuandrei27554 ай бұрын
@@malcolmrff i got Gojira from neural and even with the improvements that goes with the Gojira X, STL middleton is still worth it for many reasons, and ESPECIALLY for beginners. The "input autoleveling" feature is a real treasure and will teach u a lot on how to record ur signal properly. All the presets are monstrous and come with an Eq that u can learn from in order to reproduce the tone u love the most with any other VST. U can see the approach of Middleton on EQing (and that's priceless). All the amps feels real, because they're reproduced digitaly components by components and that's a huge difference ! The cab section is one of the best i ever heard (the cab are from the personnal collection of Middleton, the mic placement and behaviour is really well reproduced...) effects are simple but sounds like a dream... shall i continue ??? I mean, u can go for it. U'll thank josh and STL later u can really understand with this plug in what IS a USABLE tone and how to achieve to dial in such ones, and that's for me, the best feature. Plus Josh did a lot of videos explaining HIMSELF how to use his plug in and dial tones, and then mix it... Gold on a plate
@cjmllvv4 ай бұрын
Not rolling off your low end?
@RaytownProductions3 ай бұрын
Low end doesn't typically make your guitars harsh, but I DO roll off a lot of low end from my guitars.
@N8oRMusic4 ай бұрын
"How do I mix my guitars to take away the fizz"? Use your ears, bro!
@danpena79223 ай бұрын
Run your interface at zero gain on Neural sims.
@dougb38542 ай бұрын
you still have to compensate depending on your interface
@martijn_yt4 ай бұрын
Or use a nice guitar cab sim ;)
@russlund2507Ай бұрын
worry less about it sounding like a "real" amp. Who cares if it's a sim or an amp, long as it sounds good? Do you think having "real" amps gives you some kind of cred?
@DanBires4 ай бұрын
I love the fizz
@RaytownProductions4 ай бұрын
Some people do! It does have a "width" to it that does away when you roll off the top end. But I feel like it sits better with the instruments when you do roll off that fizzy stuff. Thanks for the comment 😊
@tilmanwolff-moore2764 ай бұрын
Funny 😂😂.This guy claims only amp sums can sound fizzy, not real amps!! 😂😂 hmmm. I wonder who’s sounding like an amateur right now. 😂
@MassobliterationАй бұрын
Yeah, real amps also have a lot of fizz, also it depends more on the cabinet than anything else... like put that plugin through a good IR and then put a real head with the same IR, that would be a good comparison.
@tilmanwolff-moore2764 ай бұрын
…sorry amp sims😊
@666Musik4 ай бұрын
That's not a very good amp sim, rate my rhythm guitar tone in my last track. :)