How to Fix New York's Totally F*cked Subway System
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Күн бұрынThe path to real reform and accountability is to end the subsidies from drivers and taxpayers, and make the subway live off its customers once and for all.
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The New York City Subway is the circulatory system for the global capital of finance and media, and today this 114-year-old engineering marvel is coming apart. Stalled trains, signal breakdowns, and constant line closures are complicating the lives of New Yorkers, who ride the trains more than five and a half million times a day.
The MTA, the public agency that runs the subways, is woefully mismanaged, fiscally irresponsible, and politically captured. Thanks to the clout of the Transit Workers Union, subway workers on average make $155,000 in total annual compensation, or more than twice as much as the passengers they serve.
The political response to this crisis has been mainly to devise new ways to collect more money for this troubled operation, such as a new "millionaires tax" or by imposing additional tolls and surcharges on cars.
But a major lesson from the first 114 years of subway history is that giving the MTA more money from outside sources is like bringing an alcoholic to an open bar. The path to real reform and accountability is to make the subway live off its customers once and for all.
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@xinceras-6542 3 жыл бұрын
This argument only makes sense if you're going to apply the same logic to every other form of transportation as well. If subway riders have to pay the full cost of the subway system, then car drivers should also have to pay the full cost of the road system (which right now is largely paid by federal tax dollars from the federal income tax). There's nothing "reasonable" or "free market" about completely subsidizing one transportation system at the expense of all others.
@andrewmorehead3704 Жыл бұрын
@Alexander Averhoff In aggregate, the vast majority of road spending is a public rather than private expense. The people using the roads are not paying per the amount they are using them. If you wanted a fair and free market, the trains should see an equal proportion of public:private spending as the roads. Only privatizing one leaves an equilibrium that is not the market equilibrium. Privatizing the trains (which this video argues) while failing to privitize roads (a much much larger expense they conveniently do not mention) is the government redistributing money to affluent people who drive cars.
@williampennjr.4448 Жыл бұрын
There's one flaw in your argument. Drivers are already overpaying for going into the city in the form of parking fees, fines and tolls. Its unfair that drivers who might drive into the city only a couple of times a year pay more for the city roads and get less benefits from them, than the non-diving residents do. Just because you don't drive doesn't mean you dont benefit from the roads and bridges. They are how all the produce and products and building materials get into and around the city. a large percentage of commuters, if not most, live outside the city whether they drive or take public transit. If everyone was to pay fully for their mode of transportation (even biking and walking) then the price would be so high people wouldn't be able to get around. The only real solution is tocut waste and find a way to increase revenue other than from fees and taxes.
@MyplayLists4Y2Y 6 жыл бұрын
$8 - $10 per ride is not that much? Seriously? Most people in New York city don't own cars and use the subway as their primary mode of transportation, several rides on the subway per day is common place for most New Yorkers. Do the math and then reevaluate that statement.
@mannurse7421 6 жыл бұрын
Tine Woodbe They said they would give vouchers to people who couldnt afford it. And it is NYC the workers make 150k a year and the passengers make 70k.
@MyplayLists4Y2Y 6 жыл бұрын
John Griffith SAID: "They said they would give vouchers to people who couldnt afford it. And it is NYC the workers make 150k a year and the passengers make 70k." REPLY: Giving government tax dollar funded vouchers contradicts the entire point. Also, what is the income level of eligibility? Did you verify the 70K income for passengers figure? Do so, you will find that is an average for New Yorkers when factoring in the relative handful of "1 percenters" that claim a residence in NYC, most New Yorkers do not make 70K a year. Even if they did, 70K is nothing after paying the comically high rents and other living expenses of living in New York. Again, do the math: taking the average of the proposal, $9 per ride, to and from just two destinations a day amounts to $13,140 per year! That's almost a 5th of that 70K just in subway fare! I maintain, this proposal is not well thought out.
@alexutopia 6 жыл бұрын
I'm German, so I have no comparison really, but $10 per ride sounds ridicules to me. For $5 I can ride the train in my city literally all day long and of course it goes without saying that there is no delay or other nonsense going on ;) And it's not just a little village or something, we are talking about 3.5 million people in an area of 344 square miles.
@carterpaulson2257 6 жыл бұрын
Shit 150k where tf do i sign up, i bet thats the same pay that starting doctors get in some states
@MandoFettOG 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Utopia and you pay for it in your income taxes
@TheRealFlyingMonkey 6 жыл бұрын
This sounds like its from someone not from New York.
@quanbrooklynkid7776 6 жыл бұрын
TheRealFlyingMonkey lol
@WayneOfLife 6 жыл бұрын
"I don't think $8 or $10 is even that much"...bruh. Someone is entitled, much?
@jaythrash8804 6 жыл бұрын
I mean, if that's only one way, for one trip, for one day, then that shit adds up. And since NYC literally has no parking, people are literally reliant on public transit. There literally is no way around it. I agree. That dude is out of touch. Even by NYC standards. Shit, there are even places in NYC where you could get a gigantic slice of pizza for 1 dollar! One fucking dollar for a huge slice of pizza! You cannot beat that!
@exiledfrommyself 6 жыл бұрын
That guy is fucking nuts if he thinks people are going to accept an $8 to $10 ride one way.
@MuddinNYC 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The only benefit to increased prices is maybe it'll decentralize NYC's jobs so they aren't all located in Manhattan but more evenly spread out amongst the boros but that would take decades
@hobobobo5244 6 жыл бұрын
If it's 8$ to 10$ then it's more beneficial to jump the turnstile because the fine for it is only 60-100$
@lunam33 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly its already expensive, especially if you depend on the subway, might as well get a car but then traffic is an issue. Maybe then need to think creatively, such as reducing energy costs, increasing efficiency, by using better technology, e.t.c. I guess for many people the better alternative is to move out of NYC all together, the quality of life there is not that great. The LIRR is public, and runs as he explains it should be on this video, by distance e.t.c. and its SUPER expensive, and not worth it most of the time unless you have a top paying job, its almost half of a mortgage or rent depending on where you live, and still has issues, and raises its fares constantly. So its not a matter of public or private, but efficiency.
@exador6 6 жыл бұрын
I can see it now. They bump the fare to $8, and yet all the other taxes and subsidies never go away.
@GeorgeNYC1231 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Riley 😂 so true
@joaov.m.oliveira9903 6 жыл бұрын
Tell me one subway system that is not subsidised.
@qjtvaddict 5 жыл бұрын
João vitor Oliveira exactly
@qjtvaddict 3 жыл бұрын
If they did that people will boycott the system
@r.d.9399 2 жыл бұрын
If they bump the fair to $5 each way the subway will bleed riders.
@jannoottenburghs5121 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why the MTA recovered from the 70's with their best periodes in 80's and 90's was the increase in public investment with things going bad after defunding.
@DavidisDawei 6 жыл бұрын
When you can't control your costs, someone else needs to cover your losses. Government only knows how to tax and spend, spend and tax.
@d-real-moop7824 6 жыл бұрын
Some very misleading facts here! ReasonTv needs to do their homework. The Mta did not willingly give money to ski centers, Albany has the power to take Money away from the MTA, and they did, many times over! The mta was against the 1.5 billion dollar station, but the project leader State Senator Leader Sheldon Silver wanted it. He would go on to threaten to cut and rob the MTA's budget, if the project wasn't built. Keep in mind the project was in his district, and his wife and friends work for the law firm and architecture firm which represented the project. Sheldon Silver is currently awaiting sentencing for his guilty conviction from his corruption trial...go figure! And 10 dollars for the subway, and he has the gale to say why does Albany have to bail out the MTA. Well why does Nyc taxpayers have to bail out Albany all the time, most of the taxpayer money comes form NYC, so why do we have to pay for the bulk of the funding as well. That guy needs a lesson in economics!
@b.griffin317 6 жыл бұрын
$8-10 subways? wow. Interesting how 5¢ in 1904 is equal to about half of what an MTA fare is today, yet they still bleed money like mad.
@richdobbs6595 6 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe that the nickel fare actually covered construction costs. My guess is that construction was paid for by investors losing their capital and tax subsidies.
@Barskor1 6 жыл бұрын
Rich Dodds it was profitable till inflation and then the city took it because the public was not happy about price increases and then the city increased the price anyway.
@richdobbs6595 6 жыл бұрын
Citations? Reading between the lines of lines, the company that built the initial segments was mostly elevated railroads acquired from builders going bankrupt. The initial subway segments were few and short, so maybe a nickel fare was viable, but things went bad in less than ten years. This was during the gold standard before WW1, so inflation was too great. The system was still pretty small and almost all of the construction was after city construction financing involvement.
@Barskor1 6 жыл бұрын
+Rich Dobbs so where are your citations?
@richdobbs6595 6 жыл бұрын
My initial speculation was based on the fare in terms of gold, combined with basic knowledge of history that most for profit transportation infrastructure projects historically failed. My reading between the lines is based upon Wikipedia. By about 1911 new lines were being financed by the city, rather than by private investment.
@furtherdefinitions1 6 жыл бұрын
When I lived in Japan, which has one of the best public transportation systems in the world, fares are based on distance traveled, and while the government runs the JR lines, many of the rails and bus lines are privately owned, with the kind of cleanliness and efficiency I never see in NYC. They are able to be so because being privately owned, they run it like a business needs to run, and they must please the customer. The MTA in NYC doesn't give a damn about the riders, because its corrupt union is in the game for themselves, milking it for all its worth.
@dahlberg31 6 жыл бұрын
That's true. I visited Tokyo last year for a week. I had all my budgets set before the trip and was going to be strict on myself. I based my city transportation budget on NYC subway system. I learned very quickly how good New Yorkers have it!!!
@silverpairaducks 6 жыл бұрын
Also respect
@chrimony 6 жыл бұрын
As for being clean and efficient, that's probably down to Japanese culture.
@zawarudo596 6 жыл бұрын
>Feliks Gailitis Ah, Japan the best train system. *Minus the rapes and groping.* Still alot better than over here though.
@supremeleadermatt8733 6 жыл бұрын
When did you live in Japan? JR East lines are now completely private since 2002, and the other 2 branches are mostly private Edit: meant private instead of public
@ryandomo5018 3 жыл бұрын
“We shouldn’t give more money to the MTA” hmm ok... “So we should raise the fares to give more money to the MTA” 🤦♂️
@BoruOfPogoBog 6 жыл бұрын
"The MTA employees earn more than the customers they serve. Clearly, their customers should be charged a much higher fare, it's the smartest way to fix this."
@landonp629 5 жыл бұрын
"The MTA employees earn more than the customers they serve." Yeah, I doubt that. First, very few conductors make anything more than $20-$27 an hour, which is at most $54,000 a year. Meanwhile, most people who actually LIVE in places like Manhattan make over $100,000 a year. Reason always finds the 'highest paid people', and then proclaims that 'everyone' or even the 'average' conductor makes that much. It's a bait-and-switch tactic.
@thatcityboy73 5 жыл бұрын
@@landonp629 most people who ride the subway live in the outer boroughs
@maldo72 4 жыл бұрын
Why does one always blame the employees they know how to make the system work but, are handcuffed by managment/ board members (which are all rich and dont ride the public system) who make policy ...
@John-yg2rt 5 жыл бұрын
For anybody thats interested, I just looked up the MTA's statement that was released as of March 5, 2019. On page 14 of 22 -- of their total $16,725,000,000 revenue, only 12% of that is comprised of "toll revenue" (~$2,007,000,000). Of their total $16,714,000,000 expenses, 58% of that went to "payroll, pension, health & welfare, and overtime" (~$9,694,120,000)... Meaning despite having a positive net of $11,000,000 (a rather meager 0.0658% profit margin) their payroll, pension, health & welfare, and overtime expenses combined cost 483% more than what they rake in via ticket revenue....... interesting
@Lordecai 3 жыл бұрын
Wow
@bartlanglyherd4280 5 жыл бұрын
The guy in 2:13 is trying to create zones and that’s just to expensive for the people of New York
@clayfurious4765 6 жыл бұрын
There are currently upgrades being implemented into the NY transit system people so please be patient. I actually believe $2.75 to ride across the entire city is an excellent bargain even with occasional delays and all.
@gavriloprincip5683 6 жыл бұрын
When I see a broken system that wastes a ton of money I say let other people do this job, privatise it. When government sees a broken system that wastes a ton of money it says let's subsidise it - throw more money in money shredder. And who is saying that libertarians are crazy?!
@kattenelvis1778 6 жыл бұрын
The Tokyo subway is privately owned and it could work for New York aswell.
@Boris-sc7pt 6 жыл бұрын
But if the subway system is in private hands, it'll still be a monopoly right?
@kmtforchina8916 6 жыл бұрын
Privatise the highway, at market price, yeah it's not gonna be profitable because it takes up so many land and land is expensive.
@23wtb 6 жыл бұрын
It worked for Metro-North.
@kattenelvis1778 6 жыл бұрын
It's not a monopoly since you can choose any other available transportation methods such as cars, taxis, helicopters, biking or walking.
@ruzzelladrian907 4 жыл бұрын
Pay $8 - $10 for the subway or cut overspending because of unions.
@christophert8419 4 жыл бұрын
The "most efficient system" is about as efficient as this guy's weight loss regiment.
@artcurious807 6 жыл бұрын
We should be ashamed of our public transportation. Asia and Europe are kicking our asses. China has put down 20,000 miles of high speed rail in the last ten years. Japan has subways that kids can ride to school. The subways in Seoul are 40 years old and still clean and operating well. It’s time to kick Democrats out of the city and open up the free market for city investment hedge funds.
@zawarudo596 6 жыл бұрын
This all runs under the assumption that we have a choice. That we could choose to not take the MTA if they provide poor service. Guess what, the MTA has a monopoly on all forms of public transportation. And unless you are suggesting that people swim across the rivers we dont have a choice. If what you guys are describing in the video happens, people be forced to pay these high fares whether they want to or not or they risk unemployment or worse. The subway system and all of our lives will only get worse not better. Dont talk about things you can't even begin to understand
@zawarudo596 6 жыл бұрын
>Simon Caymer Why?
@d-real-moop7824 6 жыл бұрын
Za Warudo this is not true, there are Van's that run to China-town form flushing and Elmhurst for 2.75, so we do have a choice! This Van's and small buses run all over the city, and our licensed and insured to operate. It's like a carpool cab system!
@zawarudo596 6 жыл бұрын
>D-Real-Moop 78 Licensed and insured to operate huh. What are they called?
@betard6244 6 жыл бұрын
Za Warudo The MTA is getting renovation a few years, and oh by the way I like your profile picture
@thatcityboy73 5 жыл бұрын
@Craig F. Thompson yeah, let me walk from Canarsie to Midtown Manhattan every day, just a lil 11 mile stroll to work, just a quick 4 hour hike in the morning
@daveedwards6653 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. The Railroads cost much more for City travel. The monthly charge for subway travel is over $130 . Fares are now $3.00 single ride. Distance based fares will force riders to find another way to travel, especially if traveling from the outer boros.
@dante6563 3 жыл бұрын
2.75*
@coreym7237 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Tokyo prices range from 140yen - 3200yen ($31) in the city ONE WAY. Tokyo has the sweetest system cost more but its worth it!
@DPK365 6 жыл бұрын
Government being irresponsible with taxpayer money??? Say it ain't so!!!
@metropolitanelevators 6 жыл бұрын
The subway fares have raised over the years and this video probably explains all of those reasons. There are many solutions to the subway chaos and one of them is to build a new signaling system and put new tracks into the subway. Although this will take a lot of time and money, it will decrease the amount of delays due to malfunctions and track conditions.
@Novusod 6 жыл бұрын
To subway can be fixed with one word: **"Privatize"** Get the government out of the MTA.
@TheRailLeaguer 4 жыл бұрын
That joke about privatization is getting too old
@Shortline819 6 жыл бұрын
Unions have never helped any rail-based transportation. Only dramatically hindered them.
@Zorooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 4 жыл бұрын
Unions are for the workers. It's not the Union's job to regulate transportation.
@MegOkuraJazz 6 жыл бұрын
If the subway cost $5-8, I would only take it to outer boroughs. I will take Uber pool everywhere else.
@SlimThrull 6 жыл бұрын
Competition at work. That's the free market working as intended.
@dylanb265 6 жыл бұрын
As a New Yorker, get outta here. You can say 10 bucks isn't that much but working class people rely on the subway to get to work. Making the subway more expensive will just decrease passengers. And it won't incentivize money to go towards fixing actual problems. You can talk all you want about fudning determining who gets the benefits, but that's not why changes do or don't get made. They do or don't get made because of political will in Albany. That's the case no matter where the initial revenue streams are.
@daveblack3491 6 жыл бұрын
The last words in this video should be the MTA motto "we apologize for any inconvenience...thank you for your patience". I've been riding the NYC subways since the early 60s and recently went back to NYC for 2 days and heard this 4 times for different problems!!
@thomasbialy8369 6 жыл бұрын
Also the state takes money from the MTA for other not related transport programs
@jsiolkowski 6 жыл бұрын
$8 for a train ride? Absolutely ridiculous. People like this are who want a city by the rich and for the rich. Disgusting.
@greiluv 6 жыл бұрын
That guy really said 8-10 dollars for a subway ride. He must think people take the subway because they're rich, and not because they have no choice
@jewslikefunk 6 жыл бұрын
$8 bucks for a ride is freaking ridiculous, instead the MTA should charge based on the distance traveled. This is a formula that other major subway systems around the world follow too.
@hostiliscivitas 6 жыл бұрын
Compared to the 70s and 80s the NYC subway is an absolute pleasure today
@requiemforamerica8432 6 жыл бұрын
it's also fucking bankrupt bc of the union
@thyslop1737 6 жыл бұрын
Simon Caymer Apparently, you have never travelled to other countries. NYC subway system is a sh#thole system. Delays, overcrowding, service interruptions, old trains, antiquidated stops and equipment. Lived there 2008 to 2016. Lost track how many years of my life were wasted on that worthless system.
@IblewuponyourfaceIII 6 жыл бұрын
hostiliscivitas that’s because you have Low Standards
@kennybolo7564 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t mean we have to set the bar low
@GIJew 6 жыл бұрын
In terms of how well kept the trains are? Possibly. In terms of on-time performance? Absolutely not.
@mastring1966 6 жыл бұрын
sounds like, much like the VA, to solution is to fire the top person, then hire somebody with competence and integrity. Then instruct him to fire all the people that directly report to him...evaluate if he needs that many replacements and hire only those he needs that he can work with. Then instruct his people to do the same. Flush the entire system completely out and start over.
@spinningbacksidekick 6 жыл бұрын
Model it after Singapore's train system and it will be fine. Spoiler: NYC won't do it.
@ON-YT 6 жыл бұрын
The best solution “Make Google Do It” 1:51
@georgedaole-wellman3950 6 жыл бұрын
A nickel in 1904 is $1.23 in 2018 dollars, so how are you arguing that a $2.75 fare isn't keeping pace with inflation? I agree with the other commenters that the idea of a $10 fare is ridiculous, that's in the ballpark of $400 a month just to commute, nevermind going anywhere on weekends or at night. You can subsidize it for low-income folks, but someone making $100k would have trouble affording $10 fares, are you going to subsidize them too?
@captrodgers4273 6 жыл бұрын
if the subway cannot support itself on its own, SHUT IT DOWN!
@richarda.w.4562 6 жыл бұрын
capt rodgers No. Ancap ideas could work with robots, but with complex human societies ita not that simple.
@captrodgers4273 6 жыл бұрын
thats how busniness goes and thats how goverment running services should too. idk what your talking about but it needs to shut down if it cannot support itself on its own ticket sales
@matrixman8582 6 жыл бұрын
If the Subway cant support itself, that's proof that the city is not using it enough anyway
@betard6244 6 жыл бұрын
capt rodgers Trust me NYC would be worst without the subway.
@user-kp1js6cb2s 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, maybe we should do the same with car dependent neighbourhoods that are build on federal money and can't sustain themselves when the time comes to repair the roads?
@kathleenirish1981 6 жыл бұрын
Trains, whether subway or above ground rail, never had such awful performance than they do now. Hard to believe this is where we are in 2018, things worked better 100 years ago
@SAFbikes 6 жыл бұрын
really? did they work better 100 years ago? please show evidence.. and take in to account the change of population in NYC between now and 100 years ago
@anonony9081 6 жыл бұрын
Kathleen Firth they worked better then because they were designed for less traffic and the workers weren't making three times the annual wage back then!
@Barskor1 6 жыл бұрын
The New York subway was built and run by a private company then the city took it over.
@MilwaukeeF40C 6 жыл бұрын
"did they work better 100 years ago?" What do you know about transit 100 years ago? They were doing well until the monetary system became inflationary and they weren't allowed to raise fares, mandatory labor bargaining laws brought strikes every other month because strikers could no longer be shitcanned, and the government started subsidizing their competition.
@MilwaukeeF40C 6 жыл бұрын
The current subway system is the nationalized "unification" of what was more than three separate organizations with overlapping (competing) territory. The first two were wholly private, profitable companies. Then the city built a third at taxpayer expense with the explicit intention of putting the other two out of business. There was also another longer distance railroad in the Bronx that built a line that eventually became part of the subway. Plus many "surface" streetcar and bus companies. The last private bus companies were forced out of business by an MTA takeover in the 2000s.
@eios76 6 жыл бұрын
1st step vote Cuomo out, 2nd and 3rd steps are the same as the first step
@blueknight5754 6 жыл бұрын
I love how easy it is to just go after the workers..yes that is the only problem right? No hiring more consultants that cost 300,000 to tell you something is broken or using outdated technology that breaks down often..but no let’s go after the frontline workers cause we can just get rid of them and all our problems will be solved..
@Barskor1 6 жыл бұрын
The worker who is being paid three times their real value yah why would anyone want to cut down on those guys?
@blueknight5754 6 жыл бұрын
Barskor1 who are you to tell someone what their value is? What if I told you to cut your salary so I can get cheaper sneakers..what would be your attitude then?
@imonlyamanandiwilldiesomed4406 6 жыл бұрын
Remember when we were polite and didn't swear? Pepridge Farm remembers...
@matthewhernandez8342 6 жыл бұрын
I'm Only A Man And I Will Die Some Day when was that the 50s?
@imonlyamanandiwilldiesomed4406 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's time to return to the values of the 50s.
@neillmottes9878 6 жыл бұрын
Well 8$ two times a day 5 times a week is 40 dollars Wich means that in month you might pay almost 200$ on the Subway. Lets keep the price the same raise the tolls on the bridges leading to Manhattan. NYC subway is already one of the most expensive metro systems in the world
@AndreNdoye 6 жыл бұрын
it costs 17 dollars just for anyone to enter staten island. If you live in bk or si and want to visit someone from the other boro, or say you go to school in one and live in the other, that can amount to A LOT of money. Sorry, but there needs to be a better way.
@quanbrooklynkid7776 6 жыл бұрын
Andre Ndoye wow I thought it was free
@AndreNdoye 6 жыл бұрын
quan Brooklyn kid OP changed his comment, originally he said all bridges in general, but i konda agree with his new statement. Manhattan bridges are all free (which is nice) but every other bridge is 10-17 dollars. I still think there has to be a better way.
@jefflewis4 6 жыл бұрын
Andre Ndoye: you're forgetting the SI ferry which is free.
@TheSigmaElite1987 3 жыл бұрын
Oh dont forget the MTA Amazon $3 Tax per delivery
@IblewuponyourfaceIII 6 жыл бұрын
NYC metro subway is a Nasty Joke, it’s unreliable, Dirty, slow, busy, the MTA employees have attitudes, the change machine sometimes doesn’t work or take coins or sometimes it doesn’t take cash, & it’s NASTY
@betard6244 6 жыл бұрын
IBlewUponYourFace Did you even watch the whole freaking video?
@magister343 6 жыл бұрын
No, apart from congestion fees paid only at times when the transit system is overcrowded, the proper way to fund such infrastructure is through Land Value Taxes. Such infrastructure is a major source of land values.
@sethperez9865 2 жыл бұрын
“8-10$ isn’t that much”… for trash service that half the time is delayed or not working
@paulsun19 6 жыл бұрын
can they reduce costs by removing workers? can they drive via computer? Can repairs be done by robot?
@dahlberg31 6 жыл бұрын
Haven't you seen the ground breaking documentary 'I Robot?' We can't trust robots!
@holycrapchris 6 жыл бұрын
The JFK Airtrain (operated by the Port Authority, not MTA) is driverless.
@sarahjessica204 6 жыл бұрын
Um robots objectify women so no.
@danielsmith8111 6 жыл бұрын
Are you on cocaine or something. How can a fucking robot objectify woman
@danielsmith8111 6 жыл бұрын
That would put too many people out of work. NYC has enough homeless as it is
@auxbentb9385 3 жыл бұрын
5$ a one way ride? What kind of drug is this guy on? C'mon the Seoul Subway System is ten times more efficient that NY Subway System. The Seoul Subway System serves Seoul and neighboring cities, a metropolitan area of 24 million people. It has over 20 lines, it nevers breaks down, it's never late, it runs with a frequency of 2 to 6 minutes in between trains, most station have shopping alleys and some of them literally look like malls. The fare? 1250won, or roughly 0,95 cents of a dollar. It's cheap, clean and efficient, everything that the New York Subway is not. An eight dollar fare is not necessary; what they have to do is be like the Koreans, and obviously, tone the corruption down a notch.
@charlesbeyer7041 6 жыл бұрын
Put a monorail on 2nd avenue or 1st avenue, there's no sense in building more subways, extending the 2nd av line to 125th would pay for a monorail up and down 2nd Ave. It could follow almost same route as previous IRT El.
@greymagician1 3 жыл бұрын
That guy's looks like a Mets fan. I don't like him
@R.A.-X65 6 жыл бұрын
The Subway Is NOT A luxury It Place Where You Need Go!
@dahlberg31 6 жыл бұрын
I wish this video was longer. I'm always in support of getting the facts of current and historical political corruption out in the open. I enjoy having someone explain the true fixed and marginal costs of using a subsidized product/service. And I'm also glad when the brainstorming solutions don't immediately go to "screw poor people!"
@zawarudo596 6 жыл бұрын
If the video becomes a reality it will be "screw poor people". These guys don't know what they are talking about.
@dahlberg31 6 жыл бұрын
Craig F. Thompson I'll check them out. Thanks
@drunkenn1nja Жыл бұрын
The metro north has this terrible model already implemented and it sucks…hundreds of dollars a month to commute into work, I say f*** that.
@thecombiner4710 2 жыл бұрын
How to fix: R32s come back on the C, send the C to lefferts running skip stop with the A Let people use tokens again Make the R stop being such a troll
@bobbylee2985 5 жыл бұрын
Should charge customers on how far thay need to go, because right now you can go from jamaca all the way to downtown Manhattan for just 2.75
@boiii3productions945 6 жыл бұрын
KEEP THE EARTH CLEAN BY FIXING AND ENCOURAGING OTHERS TO TAKE THE SUBWAY INSTEAD OF DRIVING
@shannonlove4328 5 жыл бұрын
It cost an average of $24 dollars a day to drive a car. That's everything: the car, insurance, gas, maintainence etc. It's the second biggest household expense behind only housing. Looked at that way: $8 for a train ride makes more sense. Things cost what they cost. Best to pay for them upfront.
@shannonlove4328 4 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ahmed - You’re just used to the subsidized cost. People will adapt to rising prices if they are phased in. You’d pay that much without blinking is the price had been slowed to rise naturally over the last century, Things cost what they cost. You pay for the subway or way it the other eg higher prices in consumer gods like food, that include cost like the congestion tax. There no such thing as a free lunch.
@robertszvetics210 3 жыл бұрын
THE WORST SUBWAY SYSTEM IN THE UNIVERSE.
@oldman6914 6 жыл бұрын
You know how fixed the subway in New York I made it perfect I got the f*** out of that Bastion of communist hell. And I owned a thousand square foot co-op in lower Manhattan and I still say f*** New York.LOL
@betard6244 6 жыл бұрын
Arch Angel And NYC says Fuck you back
@yoyu2567 4 жыл бұрын
Just do what spiderman does
@fluffyfox6045 6 жыл бұрын
Costa Rica don’t even have a metro in 2018 :(
@kilojoule_kj 6 жыл бұрын
Reason should do a video explaining why it works by giving out examples where such transit systems exists, notably Asia where most mass transit is privatized and runs on what they say, a distance based fares system with concessionary rates for elderly, students and the disabled. There are other places to research such as "farebox recovery ratio" and additional recenue stream such as developing.real estate in which rail operarators own. Such other ideas include gradual privatization, full privazation, public-private partnerships, and decreasing the powers of unions.
@Laalaalaa10 6 жыл бұрын
Get the hell out of here $8 one way is insane. You’re going to penalize people living far out in the boroughs, more than we already are hurt for not being in the city proper. Disgusting.
@RichardBronosky 6 жыл бұрын
I lived in the Atlanta suburbs and I paid $10 a day in GASOLINE and spent 1.5 to 2.5 hours in traffic ONE WAY (and driving it late at night without traffic took 35 minutes). Charging $8-10 (daily) for transit if perfectly reasonable for a city like New York.
@JDoors 6 жыл бұрын
Proposed solution: Pay what it costs. Right, unions won't suck up all that extra cash, nope, no way.
@Barskor1 6 жыл бұрын
And that is why mandated monopolies are the ruin of the world.
@memepope7478 6 жыл бұрын
$10 a ride? Get absolutely fucked. Half my rides are 1 or 2 stops. New Yorkers would revolt if they tried to charge us this much to subsidize low income riders and six figure track workers.
@alsoknownas875 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a New Yorker, I use the subway everyday, and it is GARBAGE. Constant delays, ineffectual staff, dirty stations, and steadily rising fares. If you live in one of the boroughs outside of Manhattan (especially Brooklyn or Queens), the weekends are even WORSE, as "planned construction work" can shut down your closest station, or worse, put entire LINES out of commission, forcing riders to use overly-crowded shuttle buses that are about 3x slower than the train would've been. I've been here for over a decade, and can attest to the fact that ten years ago the fares were cheaper and the service better. The idea presented by the bozo in this video, of charging riders by the distance, is absurd--one of the reasons the NY subway is so great is because it helps people from all over the city and its boroughs travel great distances in a reasonable amount of time at low cost. People who can afford to pay "$8-10 a ride", every day, are likely not going to be people who even NEED to rely on the subway the way that someone in Harlem, Washington Heights, or the Bronx might. Learning about the salaries of MTA employees is also eye-opening. It explains why they're so slow-moving, lazy, and have such poor attitudes. There are also positions that are completely useless, such as elevator "operators" who literally do nothing except push buttons all day while they watch Netflix on their phone or tablet. The fact that these people are unionized likely means that it's a pain in the ass to get rid of them. Maybe Trump can make the MTA great again.
@TheRailLeaguer 4 жыл бұрын
Trump can’t make anything great for that matter. However, there could be a tax on the rich, congestion charge to some extent, and a public bank that Wall Street can’t exploit (the private bank system is unaccountable to the people).
@williampennjr.4448 Жыл бұрын
I have some idea's. 1. Train car wash on every train line. I'm sick of looking at the grime on the train windows, and it would make for some entertainment for the passengers. 2. Speaking of entertainment. Install tv screens to show advertisements. That's better than having to stare at the wall my entire ride. movie trailers would be great too. Extra revenue for the mta. 3. larger train doors so passengers can enter and leave faster 4. track guards so people do'nt get pushed onto the tracks 5. Bathrooms in the station that require the use of a metro card (omnipass) to enter and leave,. and will charge you if you don't leave within 20 minutes (to discourage the homeless from hanging out in them). This would also help pay for some of the other train services. 6. turn styles at the entrance to the platform that lock while trains are entering the station and unlock only after it leaves, to prevent overcrowding on the platforms and people running to catch a train. 7. Elevators at every station that now requires taking stares. 8. Alternative forms of income for the MTA other than fairs, like: advertising and sales. A souvenir shop at every station, a surcharge on shops wanting to do business in the subway (If they aren't already doing that). 9. A ride-hailing kiosk in the subway and connection to interactive maps of the city. 10 WIFI in the station and on the trains.
@landonp629 5 жыл бұрын
Starting salaries for conductors are currently about $20/hr, with top pay at $29/hr after 3 years. That is a lot of money, but not a lot when you consider a 1 bedroom apartment is $3,000 per month.
@shannonlove4328 5 жыл бұрын
Landon Parks -- That's wages, not compensation. Compensation is everything.
@JasmineJu 6 жыл бұрын
5 cents in 1905 is $1.35 today. What's killing the subway is not government, it's government AND corporations. Cronyism.
@r.b.4611 6 жыл бұрын
Eh just give Musk the money he'll build something better.
@dahlberg31 6 жыл бұрын
Shove the people in tubes and they can go a whole mile for the low cost of $100 million!
@syntaxusdogmata3333 6 жыл бұрын
+Ordner - That's the joke, Einstein.
@r.b.4611 6 жыл бұрын
Actually I was talking about the transport system The Boring company is creating. Not Hyperloop.
@CityLifeinAmerica 5 жыл бұрын
Sure. And he will take it and build nothing just like what he did in LA. The project in LA even got cancelled.
@johnvuillemot4805 3 жыл бұрын
It shows how many 'libertarians' in the comments don't want taxes but still want services.
@crooked52h 6 жыл бұрын
FIX THE DAMN 5 LINE
@bluegillphil1427 6 жыл бұрын
When I left NY in 1969 a subway fare was .10 cents , Staten Is. Ferry was a NICKLE !
@DaReS297 6 жыл бұрын
The people who choose to drive into downtown (not delivery vehicles) and choke our lungs with exhaust, gridlock the streets, cause traffic accidents and generally deteriorate the city... These are the people who should subsidize mass public transit! CONGESTION CHARGING FOR ALL OF MANHATTAN!!!
@carterpaulson2257 6 жыл бұрын
It cost $9.50 to take the BART from SFO to downtown SF, and these ppl are raising hell over a modest increase to $8? come on
@nelsonomicsruns9246 6 жыл бұрын
OMG I hated riding the NYC Subway. Its filthy and it stinks and it's a terrible way to get around.
@peters.9371 4 жыл бұрын
The real solution is to privatize it
@TheRailLeaguer 4 жыл бұрын
That joke about private operations is getting too old
@SouthBrooklynRR 6 жыл бұрын
We are sorry for the inconvenience, we do appreciate your cooperation, we will be moving shortly.
@ruzzelladrian907 4 жыл бұрын
MTA workers that work in the booth have a simple job but take it for granted, they treat their customers poorly and they're extremely rude. Simply asking for help means getting screamed at, and all they do is just sit there, but not all, but many just have this behavior that they don't want to be bothered at all. I am discouraged to ask for assistance by MTA workers that work in the booth. They're supposed to serve the public, yet they lack proper etiquette and good customer service. Typical of the public sector.
@patriotamerican3069 5 жыл бұрын
MTA is so disgusting and corrupt, they can make their own reality show.
@eduardoreal1056 6 жыл бұрын
His reason is that most New Yorkers are upper middle class is they should pay $5 one way or more. Does this guy live in NYC. NOT everyone is upper middle class. You have people live in high rent apt's that are not even new. You have people living with room mates. Those that are not upper middle class live in the outer boroughs. The issues we are having with the subways are due to idiot politicans and no over sight on how the money is spent.
@Malikjardine 5 жыл бұрын
This guy expects the subway to run the same way the RAILROADS run
@theageoftheawakening4806 6 жыл бұрын
The reality is MTA is a slum Lord and doesnt Want to fix the system. Stop blaming the union workers. You Have to make a lot to live in new york. Janitors in nyc make 60k plus a year. I make 90k and im a maintenance man. You have to make 100k a year to live normal anywhere within 100 miles of manhattan
@AzmolHossain01188a 6 жыл бұрын
"8 or 10 dollars not much". Most of us earn minimum of $13 an hour. And you expect me to spend half of money on transportation? This subway system is getting wrose and wrose by day.
@danielsmith8111 6 жыл бұрын
If the MTA announced that the fair was going to 8 dollars the city would riot for days
@TheMannyx17 6 жыл бұрын
Never complaining about the Tube ever again.
@shakthianjanananayakkara6528 4 жыл бұрын
Raising prices that much will stop people from using the subway and cause revenue to drop. Subway adds value to the land around the stations. A Land Value Tax is the best way to partially fund the subway.
@nickporcaro9644 5 жыл бұрын
Totally lousy folks - I live in NYC. The strength of the city is the mobility afforded by the subway system. $155 per year for the transit workers - that's awesome! I wish all unionized workers made that much. In terms of fairness for who bears the cost it should be from those who benefit most - which is the business community. Yes the MTA is inefficient, we just need some management fixes - don't go blaming the workers. The subway should be free to encourage more economic activity to generate more income to improve it. This libertarian hack hasn't a clue
@06afeher 6 жыл бұрын
In Asian they don’t have problems like this because they don’t have trade unions and people can be accounted for doing a bad job. $155000 for the simplest of jobs is beyond ridiculously generous.
@matthiasschupp2326 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the best way to fix the subway system is to allow the state and city government to properly run efficiently instead of supporting legislation that requires it to do the exact opposite, something Libertarians are quite bent on. The proposal to raise the fare will decrease social mobility, because if the most affordable transportation mode increases its cost, how will those pursuing jobs that are further away be able to balance their account. I agree fares could be based on wages, but if rich people don’t even want to ride the subway, there’s no point in trying to get that kind of legislation passed.
@TrulsMonsen 6 жыл бұрын
The public transit in Oslo (Norway) gets its funding 50/50 from fares and subsidies. A single ticket valid for 1 hour on all modes of transit costs 4.5 USD. Public transit usage has been increasing continuously the last decade, and customers are satisfied.
@willyberesford6964 5 жыл бұрын
$8 a ride? So then if someone works 6 day weeks, they would have to pay over $4600 per year for a subway system that barely works?
@mpshemek 6 жыл бұрын
As a New Yorker of 20 years I wholeheartedly agree that we need less cars in NYC. The taxes charged on drivers for things like bridges, tolls and rental cars should be much higher and add to the MTA fund to fix the system. We are a city of commuters and fares that are $5-10 are completely unreasonable. Subsidizing the MTA through taxes and capital improvement projects is the way to go. The MTA needs to be brought back under the city govt and not the state as well.
@Globalurb 5 жыл бұрын
Even with more subsidies, the MTA would still stuck with it inefficient structures and ridiculous collective agreements. Privatizing some lines should be the way to go. The private sector will be able to bring capital to modernize and automate some lines. Since the private operator doesn't need to subsidies empty buses, they should be able to maintain the same fare or even slash the fares on short trips.
@TheRailLeaguer 4 жыл бұрын
infomanicool That joke about privatization is getting too old
@derpmansderpyskin 6 жыл бұрын
Wait- if fares make up just under half of the cost of the subway right now, why would we have to raise the cost of fares from 2, to 5,8, or 10 dollars? Would it not be reasonable to set the fare at 4, or at most 5 dollars?
@gangelo79 6 жыл бұрын
They are saying there is a problem on how money are spent and suggesting the solution is changing the source of the money (increasing the fare). How does this make sense? Plus in this way you are incentivating people to drive more in a super congested place like manhattan. This the most illogical solution to fix the subway
@horny99845 5 жыл бұрын
The money from TBTA also goes to LIRR Metro North SI Railway and other MTA agencies
@haydencooper9095 6 жыл бұрын
Here the London Underground is ran by Transport for London which is government owned, yet service is still very good (despite what most other Londoners would say). You don’t need to privatise it and charge eight fucking dollars per journey to get this
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