How To Flex Time Drums THE RIGHT WAY! (Logic Pro X)

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Жыл бұрын

Learn how to use Logic Pro X's flex time... THE RIGHT WAY!
I've watched a few tutorials on this subject and most people seem to complain about flex time...
Yes it's not perfect. but it sure beats manually slicing and quantizing every beat... like we had to do back in the dinosaur days...
Once you know the ins and outs and can identify any issues created by Flex Time, you'll be a pro! You'll edit your drums so fast and impress your clients :)
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@nogoogleplus 9 ай бұрын

Excellent vid, straight and to the point, thanks!

@spinlightstudios 9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@johnviera3884 21 күн бұрын

3:29 make sure you that the nudge value is set correctly. click the drop down at the top left. nudge value is in the center of the drop down. usually 10 ticks works well. very fine adjustment.

@giovannifranzetti6214 5 ай бұрын

Super well made content, pure gold Thanks!

@spinlightstudios 5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@neilsachs Жыл бұрын

Wonderful video! This is the simplest, best and most effective method I've found. So much appreciated!

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad to be of help :)

@glebglebowski 6 ай бұрын

Thank you! That’s wha I’m looking for!

@ericfawcett2085 4 ай бұрын

Super, super helpful. Thank you!

@spinlightstudios 4 ай бұрын

Glad I could help!

@JosueSantos-dh5jk 3 ай бұрын

Very helpful every time!

@spinlightstudios 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Savvathan 9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this! Very well said! Saved me so much time!

@spinlightstudios 9 ай бұрын

You’re welcome!

@BobSchoepenjr Ай бұрын

Perfect 😊

@EliZulta Жыл бұрын

Thank you, King, I am very satisfied with the result. Good luck

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

@johankeilig3000 20 күн бұрын

so cool, been editing drums in logic for years but this just gave me some great hacks!

@spinlightstudios 19 күн бұрын

Glad I could help!

@drjamesdo Жыл бұрын

This is so helpful. Thanks for the easy explanation. You saved me multiple hours of pain and headaches.

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Stoked you found it helpful man! If you haven’t already, Don’t forget to hit that like button for me 😉

@beandog779 3 ай бұрын

Wow. Great tutorial! You got a total beginner quantizing and editing drums!!

@spinlightstudios 3 ай бұрын

Haha nice! Thanks 🙏🏼

@easternsouvenirs Жыл бұрын

Super helpful tips. Didn't realize you could affect the transient detection per track! Another thing I realized recently is that sometimes Flex Time misidentifies the start of the transient and splits it so you get a weird click. You can erase the transient marker, click a new one just before the transient and then move the hit to the grid by sight. A little wonky, but it's an easy fix.

@88omarz 7 ай бұрын

Got ya thanks

@noediaz6181 Жыл бұрын

Dude! Super dope tutorial, thanks man!

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Thanks Noe! Glad you found it useful!

@Zencadence Жыл бұрын

Thank you! This video really helps me a lot. Flextime is such a useful tool, but I never really got the hang of it. That will change now, thanks to you

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

No problem mate! Glad to have been of help to you! Go forth and quantize those drums haha

@jaysagmyr7298 10 ай бұрын

Great tutorial, thanks!

@spinlightstudios 10 ай бұрын

No problem!

@DigiMixAudio 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for an informative video!

@spinlightstudios 10 ай бұрын

You’re welcome ☺️

@johndriskol6073 9 ай бұрын

Amazing. Thank you so much!

@spinlightstudios 9 ай бұрын

Happy to help!

@casualfanmusic 5 ай бұрын

super helpful video! v grateful

@spinlightstudios 5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@artwerkmedia8616 Жыл бұрын

Always learn something new even if I’ve been doing this for some time! Thanks.

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

That’s great mate! Thanks for watching :)

@patrickgorce 4 ай бұрын

❤Super clear bro 😎 Thx 🙏

@spinlightstudios 4 ай бұрын

Happy to help!

@thomaswhudson 5 ай бұрын

Great video. I am just learning Logic but this is super helpful.

@spinlightstudios 5 ай бұрын

Thanks mate!

@JugurthaStudio 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video.

@spinlightstudios 8 ай бұрын

No problemo!

@AlexBaylymusic 9 ай бұрын

You the man. Great video I'm pretty confident with flex time but I didn't know the quick bounce tip at the end and the -/+ stuff. GREAT VIDEO. New subscriber.

@spinlightstudios 9 ай бұрын

Thanks mate! Always something to new to learn hey! Glad to have helped!

@chrispoage 6 ай бұрын

your in the track editor.. click the word FILE right on the top of the editor window :)

@ChrisCarswell 3 ай бұрын

Bless you kind sir!

@spinlightstudios 3 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏼

@perrymcintyre9723 Жыл бұрын

I Love this!

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Appreciate you checking it out!

@thedigitalsnake 11 ай бұрын

Thanks, not seen this more economical method of concentrating the transients.

@spinlightstudios 11 ай бұрын

No problem!

@stephansnow7777 6 ай бұрын

Thanks man

@tabodee Жыл бұрын

Very helpful! Thanks!

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ty, glad it was useful!

@JackBz 9 ай бұрын

1:55 this button isn't there for me. I can still see all the markers by default, but they're not orange. And there's no plus and minus buttons. I guess maybe Logic has updated since this ;(

@spinlightstudios 9 ай бұрын

Hmm that’s odd! I haven’t updated in a while so chances are things might have changed.. seems like a weird thing to change though!

@georgemendoza8164 5 ай бұрын

I have the same problem, any information?@@spinlightstudios

@DrummerGallop 2 ай бұрын

Make sure you're on 'File' and not 'Track' when you open the editor. You have to change it over to get the lines

@TheGoldenbay 2 ай бұрын

@@DrummerGallop thanks!

@fiddlerfinch Ай бұрын

You RULE.

@blakematthews6374 Жыл бұрын

Solid video man! This is pretty similar to what I do, but I find committing the edit at various points (and saving a backup of course) helps avoid issues as well. Flex Time and logic get way too much hate about drum editing tbh. I’m not saying there aren’t better daws for this task, especially if you’re trying to move super fast, but if you can’t get to a good edit with logic, it’s either a drummer issue, or a user issue.

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Thanks Blake, totally agree! Bad drummer performance can make Flextime a nightmare, but that’s cause the drummer can’t play clean enough for the transient detection. If I’m working on something where I’ve had to use lots of flex markers and the session gets really slow and bogged down, then I’ll commit where I’m up to and then go from there again as everything runs smooth again once all the manually added flex markers are flattened out. Usually metal drummers with messy double kicks 😅

@blakematthews6374 Жыл бұрын

@@spinlightstudios I’ve done what you’re saying before, but I more so meant if it’s a tricky edit, I’ll edit just the snare to the grid and make sure I’m not messing any of the other things up, commit it, then I’ll edit the kicks, commit, then the toms and cymbals I’ll do in the same pass. Not saying this is an every time thing or the best way to do it, but it works for me! Keep up the great work, definitely going to check out some more of your videos :)

@kamenoodles Жыл бұрын

Great tutorial :)

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@OneMinuteSaxLessons Жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you.

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

No problem :)

@SambodhiPrem Жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you!! In Logic there is a keyboard shortcut to temporarily enable and disable groups. I think it is "command G". 🙏🏻

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! That’s a great tip!

@jbyrd1309 Жыл бұрын

Sick!

@pasitmusic Ай бұрын

Awesome

@spinlightstudios Ай бұрын

😁

@EVILJAMARR 4 ай бұрын

You saved my buns with this one. I feel like I owe you a coffee or something, no lie❤

@spinlightstudios 4 ай бұрын

Thanks mate! Feel free to send me a coffee via the PayPal link in the description ;) 😜

@Andriy023 6 сағат бұрын

Thanks

@guscarter5918 9 ай бұрын

Excellent vidéo … Thanks 🤙🏽😎🔥♥️🙏🏽⭐️🇳🇨🎶

@spinlightstudios 9 ай бұрын

Cheers!

@MattGarwood777 Жыл бұрын

bro… so good

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! Hope it was useful!

@mayne196222 Жыл бұрын

Hi Bro love your work cheers Sia

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Thanks Sia! Hope you are well mate!

@DadaAlinoe 3 ай бұрын

Dude I was searching for a way to save my many hours work with quantisation and I found it here, just slice the end and join😅 boss tutorial 🚀

@spinlightstudios 3 ай бұрын

Haha it’s always the little things! Glad I could help!

@MrJaapdeboer 9 ай бұрын

Awesome. Bunch of little tricks I didn’t know about yet. Flex is useful, but finicky as hell

@spinlightstudios 9 ай бұрын

Yes it’s plagued with it’s issues, but still very useful once you can get around them!

@tomallonsmusicalcreation1111 11 ай бұрын

I love it ! Thanks allot !! But what do we do when we are comping ? How do we edit then ?

@spinlightstudios 11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Comping should be done before flex time in my opinion - pick your takes, and then commit - flatten/merge the takes and then move on to flextime. Perhaps I’ll make a video on this aspect of the process too 🤔

@tomallonsmusicalcreation1111 11 ай бұрын

I dont really like this way of “commitin” because sometimes i still need small adjustments after flex does it thing , know pf a better way ? Like creating a take from the comp and process that ?

@passionoflovers Жыл бұрын

Question: If editing the kick track in case of a flam around the group, won't that create a phase issue?

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Fair question, and most likely it would create a potential phase disruption between the kick close mics and overheads, but if you are only doing it for one kick under a snare hit, you honestly aren’t going to notice - especially if you roll off some low end in the overheads later. I’ve never had an issue in the mixing stage after doing this kind of edit.

@bryandrums32 Жыл бұрын

Very cool!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@bryandrums32 Жыл бұрын

@@spinlightstudios np pal,,,,, anytime

@janrechberger8601 Жыл бұрын

Cool video man! That's how i usually do it too, however, i usually turn the green q off on everything else than kick in, snare top and tom mics to get the transients from close mics only... Super curious why u do it this way though? Cheers

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jan, I’m still trying to get the cymbals as well. I find that if you just quantize the kicks and snare you get some weirdly spaced cymbals. Basically if I’m quantizing drums, I quantize them all, It’s only really a problem if you’re working on messy drum tracks. If the drummer is pretty tight, the transients on the overheads and hats/ride mics come through without any issues. I’ll manually clean up anything that gets messed around by flex. Generally I find the close mics override the overheads flex on places where the snare/Kick/Tom’s hit as the transient is stronger in the close mics.

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

And sometimes the ghosted snare notes come through clearer on the snare bottom mic

@janrechberger8601 Жыл бұрын

@@spinlightstudios cool, thx!

@JeremyShieldsMusic 4 ай бұрын

nice videoo!I do most of this as well, I was always afraid to turn the group off for the flamming hits though, but earlier today i actually thought about doing that haha..also, couldn't you just do "bounce in place" instead of the cut and bounce and join? same thing I guess, just wondering if there was a reason you did that instead of just bounce in place

@spinlightstudios 4 ай бұрын

I don’t think you can batch bounce in place individual tracks? so while they are grouped, doing a little cut and joining them - you can do it in one go!

@JeremyShieldsMusic 4 ай бұрын

@@spinlightstudios ohh yeah you would have to go through and do them all individually lol your way is definitely faster, thanks!

@tomrichardson2448 2 ай бұрын

Hey man, great video, helped me a lot. I'm having some issues with one set of tracks, though. They are grouped, Q locked, flex edited, but when I do the trim at the end and then hit Join Per Track, Logic renders the first track, then all the others disappear, Logic starts analysing transients on the new first track, and then starts loading each subsequent track and doing the same. It didn't do this before on a series of drum tracks (the problem ones are bass tracks using Monophonic Flex) - those drum tracks worked exactly as you showed here. Any ideas what might be happening?

@spinlightstudios 2 ай бұрын

Hmmm I’m not sure man. Sounds frustrating! You’re not joining them into one track by accident?

@xstiffx 9 ай бұрын

so glad I found your channel. thanks man.

@davidluke7927 Жыл бұрын

Would you edit drums this way with the latest logic update and it’s new editing options?

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Hey David, I haven’t updated yet, I’ll have to check it out! Thanks!

@matthewebeebe Жыл бұрын

Newbie question here... when we recorded, we didn't use a click - is there a tutorial from knowing what grid/tempo I want behind my drums?

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Hmm you might have to look up a tutorial for using smart tempo. Where logic maps the tempo of the performance.

@aleksandrekaishauri9977 3 ай бұрын

Brother, thank you so much! I have one question, why are you making a cut in the end on an audio file? I just copied what you've done but I would like to know the reason lol. CHEERS!

@spinlightstudios 3 ай бұрын

Thanks mate! I cut and join the regions which writes all of the flextime edits to the audio files - destructive editing. Just means I don’t have to have flextime running anymore using up CPU

@spartacusdrumz9873 6 ай бұрын

Here's a question for you man. I'm trying to apply flextime to the audio of a drum cover video I'm currently mixing, and every time I click the "enable flex" button, it speeds up my takes to like 1.5x or even 2x speed! I have no idea why. Anybody got a clue what may be causing that? Thanks!

@spinlightstudios 6 ай бұрын

Yeah this has happened to me heaps of times when turning on flex it goes wild. Usually I need to just bounce the audio file in place (turn off all plugins). And then flex time reads new file properly. Must be a glitch.

@adanshanumusic9557 4 ай бұрын

What about when the live drum are out of timing meaning it starts out ok then fall off how do you fix that

@spinlightstudios 4 ай бұрын

You would need to use smart tempo and flex time to bring it into the tempo and then quantize it. I’ve done this a few times, I’ll make a vid on it soon!

@bill4510 2 ай бұрын

When editing in sample editor use file to see flex markers

@rogcustom_2017 11 ай бұрын

Why the green "Q" button to deactivate the quantization on the track is not showing in my logic? Excelent video btw!

@spinlightstudios 11 ай бұрын

You need to have quantize lock selected for the group and then the little green Q becomes available. Thanks!

@dimitrisblane6368 5 ай бұрын

Hi. Just to say that following your steps with adjusting the transient markers, messed up my multitrack session for some reason. When adjusting the flex-time on one track, for example to bring the kick drum on the beat, wouldn't automatically move the markers on the rest of the tracksa resulting in out of sync audio. I tried everything, deleting the transient markers, updating file information, re-analyzing, bouncing in place and starting again but nothing worked. Don't know what it was, if it's a bug of some sort, but just thought to mention it on this comment section

@spinlightstudios 5 ай бұрын

That sounds frustrating man, You need to make sure the drums are grouped, by the sounds of it the group may not be active? The need to be grouped and edit phase locked and it shouldn’t be a problem, otherwise must be some glitch! I just updated to the latest version of logic and everything is working exactly the same as when I made this video! “CMD G” activates and bypasses groups.

@dimitrisblane6368 5 ай бұрын

@@spinlightstudios yea it's all grouped and phase locked , I've done many multi track recordings on logic. I literally just thought to give it a go with your way to adjust the transients and something glitches! Annoying thing is it seems the transient information is saved with the audio file somehow as I'm unable to start afresh! Oh well no biggie, I'll edit the drums the old school way

@jellyjacobbazooka7867 Жыл бұрын

thx!

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

@thomasmichel92 5 ай бұрын

Thank you, I think here the answer why my real drums sounds not tight even with good mix settings

@spinlightstudios 5 ай бұрын

If you’re drums don’t sound tight, it can really let the mix down

@thomasmichel92 5 ай бұрын

Thats it you have the proof here : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hJ2jiLuL27y4iWQ.html I will follow youre advise for next album, and may be contact you for mixing if you're in of course @@spinlightstudios

@buddyharlow518 3 ай бұрын

Do you find there's any issues with phase after using flex-time to edit? I've heard countless things on forums and google searches about avoiding logic's flextime for drum editing, but it seems to be the typical audio engineer doom and gloom about shit that doesn't matter as much as they make it out to. I've tried to do the protools way of editing in logic and honestly logic doesn't handle cutting that many regions that well without tanking. Thanks a bunch man!

@spinlightstudios 3 ай бұрын

I’ve been flexing drums forever and as long as you group and phase lock them - use slicing mode - it’s not a problem :) the method in this video is how I edit drums all the time! Sure flex is fiddly sometimes, but it still beats slicing and quantizing regions and creating fades 🤢 There is a lot to be said about opinions on forums 😅

@buddyharlow518 3 ай бұрын

@@spinlightstudios That's the thing, any way you edit drums is going to have unnatural results if you're working god's miracles. If you point to those edge cases as evidence for a degradation in quality, it's just a bad argument all around. Just wanted to follow up and say I really appreciate your take on things. In regards to the opinions in forums, I feel as if your videos have a holistic approach to solving 'The Problem" instead of being an audio engineer luddite.

@spinlightstudios 3 ай бұрын

Thanks Mate! Appreciate you checking my channel out!

@mikeyovbrinny Жыл бұрын

Fucking dope man this is gonna come in handy!

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah! Make those drums tiiiight!

@lowmello Жыл бұрын

How come when I do this in 6/8 it cuts my drums in half plays them at a fast speed?

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Hmmm flextime sometimes does weird things. Any tempo changes in your song?

@easternsouvenirs Жыл бұрын

Sometimes, if you change the project tempo or time signature after placing tracks in a project it can throw things off like this, so you have to remove the original embedded tempo and time signature data from all the audio or start over with a new session thats set at the right tempo/signature before adding your audio.

@rogcustom_2017 11 ай бұрын

@@easternsouvenirs How to remove "the original embedded tempo and time signature data from all the audio"? You could save me a lot of time! Thx in advance!

@easternsouvenirs 11 ай бұрын

@@rogcustom_2017 Right click the audio region, go down to "tempo", select "Remove Original Recording Tempo"

@russelmediastudio282 4 ай бұрын

Lolso interesting on flex time

@RicardoBuquet 2 ай бұрын

what part are you missing from the video? you start with a midi and suddently you have audio files

@spinlightstudios 2 ай бұрын

Nothing is missing, this is a video about flextime on drums - Flex Time is for audio files. Flextime is not used on midi. I just watched the start and there is no midi? The first track on the mixer is the metronome. I’m a bit perplexed by your comment tbh

@justalittlesign Жыл бұрын

Why all tutorials are 16-32 measures? Let s see how you quantize 5-6 minutes songs with lots of double bass and fills

@spinlightstudios Жыл бұрын

Have done this so many times, I guess it would be boring for people to watch someone flextime for an hour? Lol same principle applies to metal drums, just hopefully you’re tracking a drummer who can actually play double kicks lol

@justalittlesign Жыл бұрын

When you quantise a small part like this everything is fine

@brownhooque 6 ай бұрын

You do the rest of the song the exact same way as you would for the first 16-32 measures🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@j.bright6802 3 ай бұрын

Cuz don’t nobody listen to that shit

@presidentstudio 3 ай бұрын

@@spinlightstudios try to quantise something in 5/8, 7/8

@jacobbradleyburnett Ай бұрын

What about the rooms!

@spinlightstudios Ай бұрын

What do you mean? They are part of the group when you Flex Time.

@ItsOttis Ай бұрын

"It's as simple as that"... yeah... ok. EDIT: I did it! Kinda Another edit: you should mention how to get those green quantize buttons showing. took me ages to figure it out.

@russelmediastudio282 4 ай бұрын

Lolso interesting on flex time