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How To Go From a 3D Print to Carbon Fiber Part (Tutorial)

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Matthieu Libeert

Matthieu Libeert

Күн бұрын

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@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
Write your questions or desires for future tutorials down here ;) I'll answer all questions below!
@amirfathirad2965
@amirfathirad2965 Жыл бұрын
i have one question why every time i watch one of your videos i learn something new?
@gafrers
@gafrers 2 жыл бұрын
Great as always. 3D printing is so useful in composites
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
true! love it! now have a laser cutter as wel for future tutorials ;)
@gafrers
@gafrers 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatthieuLibeert Wonderful
@janatlmb2770
@janatlmb2770 8 ай бұрын
Pretty good. Thanks I have actually learnt something. Esp. the finish section. Didn't know you go into the grain of the fiber.
@raph151515
@raph151515 Жыл бұрын
to get the "metal" finish you would need a very strong vacuum, maybe using a pressed machined mold helps because if the surface fibers aren't perfectly aligned, you can easily punch through into the fibers while sanding which is what koenigsegg managed to avoid. Maybe the viscosity of the resin needs to be very low to get a thinner film between the mold and the first fiber layer. could you cheat by adding pressure on top with a flexible material in between to sreap the pressure evenly, after infusion , after clamping the intake but before clamping the outlet, I guess it would help.
@amirfathirad2965
@amirfathirad2965 Жыл бұрын
I really liked the finish, something I am definitely gonna try with different vacuum pressures to see the difference between them
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert Жыл бұрын
It's a special finish indeed, I like it as well :D
@TheShaddix
@TheShaddix Жыл бұрын
Hey Matthieu, as usual very enjoyable to watch! The only question I have is (for part like this especially) why not just 3d print a mold, then do all the other steps and infuse the part? This would save time/money vs. laying up a fiberglass mold.
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert Жыл бұрын
100% true! Only downside is I don't think 3d printed moulds are durable! Will test a 3d printed mould in future videos, as it's highly requested 😉
@jumuworks
@jumuworks Жыл бұрын
@@MatthieuLibeert You can check one of my videos. I used a 3d printed mould PETG coated and one with just release agent :) i'm new into resin works, so its not the perfect mirror finish.
@TheShaddix
@TheShaddix Жыл бұрын
@@MatthieuLibeert I understand why you'd think that!I used to think the same, but there is a way to print durable molds (2-3 perimeters with a larger nozzle, in my case a 0.8mm, plus more infill to avoid any compression during vacuum). Then I sand mine with 80 grit and coat with epoxy mixed with graphite (just something I found to work well for coating). Afterwards I just wetsand with 220, 400, and so on up to 1000, then polish real quick (basically the same process you went through for your plug/pattern). It is as durable as any epoxy/fiberglass mold is as I have infused and pulled a number of parts from mine and they still look perfect. Worst case, another wet sanding pass would refresh it back to tip-top shape! This has been my process for car parts. Nevertheless, I always look forward to your videos and value your opinion because you've been grinding for a long time way before I even figured my stuff out (still figuring it out actually...). Much respect to you.
@DaVinci1_0
@DaVinci1_0 Жыл бұрын
why do Canada Geese fly south in a V formation? cuz its too far to walk ;)
@paulboymond
@paulboymond Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, have you ever experienced a melting of your PLA part because of the exothermal resin curing ?
@ACiDFiRE
@ACiDFiRE Жыл бұрын
Nicely done 😀
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@RetrowaveUniverse
@RetrowaveUniverse 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Specter0420
@Specter0420 2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered 3D printing the mold itself? That shouldn't be too hard to do in 3D modeling software.
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
it's on my todo list ;) should work! only thing that might cause some problems is the vacuum I guess
@Specter0420
@Specter0420 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatthieuLibeert that might be a good excuse to get a resin 3D printer!
@hulpe
@hulpe 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatthieuLibeert make the printed mold part hollow and fill it up with resin with some filler from the "underside" ;)
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
Already did that in a previous tutorial 😉 it's in my last videos making a tube 😉 '3d printed mould to make carbon fiber epoxy resin tubes'
@drivenba
@drivenba 2 жыл бұрын
Expanding on this, I’d love to see a 3D printed mold utilized with out-of-autoclave prepreg cured in an regular-ish oven that can run the prepreg heat schedule!
@chiboreache
@chiboreache Жыл бұрын
what about skinning 3D print? if weight is not critical, i guess it would be fast and easy, you can also print interesting pattern, which is shows up under the vacuum
@kareemalarabi9338
@kareemalarabi9338 Жыл бұрын
Hi, great video! So what filament did u use to print the plug with?
@__--JY-Moe--__
@__--JY-Moe--__ Жыл бұрын
helpful ! thanks!!
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@gwedo8740
@gwedo8740 Жыл бұрын
You should have printed it on its side as the side layers are way better looking that the top layers, would require less bondo and post processing!
@niccolofontana7831
@niccolofontana7831 Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Erosgenuino
@Erosgenuino 4 ай бұрын
pero eso es fibra de vidrio no?
@Nils_Hammarsten
@Nils_Hammarsten Жыл бұрын
There is a cheat with film and water dipp?
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert Жыл бұрын
Works as well but not real carbon
@ShopeeMarketteam
@ShopeeMarketteam Жыл бұрын
Mat, I've heard a lot of dispute about infusion parts needed to be post cured, half the Internets says yes, the other half says no. Have you experienced warping before? And do you post cure all your parts?
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert Жыл бұрын
If possible I postcure them, so in 90% of the cases yes
@bitsurfer0101
@bitsurfer0101 2 жыл бұрын
You said that you used 150g of the gelcoat. How did you calculate the volume needed? Do you know how many g/cm3 or g/mm3?
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
600g/m2 is general rule
@jasonhalter1920
@jasonhalter1920 2 жыл бұрын
I think you may have answered a long-term question I have always had... maybe? My question is: Can you cure a two part epoxy (resin + hardener) inside of a vacuum bag? In other words... will epoxy cure in a vacuum state ( no presence of O2 or other molecules that make up *air*)? I understand temperature guidelines, just wondering about the vacuum state?
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
Yes epoxy is a 2k resin that will cure under vacuum
@hello81642
@hello81642 3 ай бұрын
Why not just brush the resin onto the fiber before vacuum sealing.
@finfoil8544
@finfoil8544 2 жыл бұрын
So that effect is basically sanding into the weave? No need to seal it with a clear coat?
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
Correct, you could clearcoat it if you want
@finfoil8544
@finfoil8544 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatthieuLibeert any downside to skipping an extra "sealing" coat? Or is it not needed at all due to the void free infusion method? (Just trying to understand as I've always been told to add an extra cost after hitting the weave, but I'd love to skip it 😅)
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
No not really needed as long as all the fibers are well infused with resin, and your ok with that finish
@6stringer301
@6stringer301 Жыл бұрын
@@finfoil8544 unless the infusion resin you're using is UV resistant or the part won't see UV light (sun) then leaving the part bare is fine. Otherwise, coat it with a UV resistant clearcoat, as the resin will begin to breakdown and amber over time
@user-gt3xz6wo3o
@user-gt3xz6wo3o Жыл бұрын
Hi. I would like to purchase the same materials you used and make them. Where should I buy what? I live in Korea, the country of BTS. Will it be shipped?
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert Жыл бұрын
Not sure if they ship to there, but try contacting them www.easycomposites.co.uk
@Szechunio
@Szechunio 2 жыл бұрын
Do you degass resin before infusion?
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly yes
@vitalykononenko149
@vitalykononenko149 Жыл бұрын
I watched a video of a formula 1 car chassis creation. It was carbon made and they used an autoclave. It was the reason why you cannot do such things at home, because you need very expensive autoclave with size of room. But you don't use it in your project. Does it mean that your carbon is some other lesser type of carbon not suitable for heavy duty applications? Can something like olympics grade bike or private plane be made this way?
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert Жыл бұрын
correct! but F1 and Aerospace are very specific industries that need that extra 1% To answer your question; I do think olympic grade and private plane can be done such way, I've read boeing and airbus are switching to out of autoclave as well but not sure. But if you want to make 95% perfect parts, out of autoclave should be fine as well!
@vitalykononenko149
@vitalykononenko149 Жыл бұрын
@@MatthieuLibeert Thanks for the answer. No I am perfectly fine with less quality material and trade quality for cost and ease of manufacturing given it passes minimum requirements. Eg bike should not disassemble at 50km/h. Also such lesser carbon still should perform better than titanium or well structured aluminium or dural.
@jucaesar4961
@jucaesar4961 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't mean it is some lesser type of carbon. The autoclave is used to minimize faults in the resin e.g. bubbles and increase the properties by achieving better saturation of the fibers with the resin.
@vitalykononenko149
@vitalykononenko149 Жыл бұрын
@@jucaesar4961 Thanks for the explanation. I thought there some different type of chemical reaction and resin type which need a temperature to cook. Therefore I still can place carbon from the video in autoclave and increase it's quality.
@jucaesar4961
@jucaesar4961 Жыл бұрын
@@vitalykononenko149 I am not too sure about that inference about the same resin being able to increase the properties through the autoclave. Generally, I would refer to specific datasheets in regards to which cure temperature and pressure should be used for the best properties. I only learned about this at a rather surface level during a second-semester course in my (bachelor) study of aerospace engineering.
@tedwingate
@tedwingate 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a limit to the size of part that can be infused with resin, or is it a matter of tuning the hardener speed for the size of part?
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
correct! If you use the slow hardener from easycomposites you might infuse parts larger, did parts up to 10m² in the past. Some other brands of epoxy might even have slower resins. Another solution is to mix your resins in smaller batches and fill up the infusion cup when needed
@duboyong
@duboyong 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatthieuLibeert also depends on the structure of it. we have been doing this, design and 3d print then make cf for years, tons of problems. sometimes we have to use clay to re construct.
@gutierrezivan447
@gutierrezivan447 2 жыл бұрын
You could also have several resin inlets. They make yachts with infusion they just have a resin inlet every 2 feet down the center. And infuse it from center out
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
True!
@philippedruet8674
@philippedruet8674 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, is there a possibility of a French translation?
@MatthieuLibeert
@MatthieuLibeert 2 жыл бұрын
Will see what I can do!
@philippedruet8674
@philippedruet8674 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatthieuLibeert perfect
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