☆DISCLAIMER FOR ALL THE BITTER HEAT PAD/TAPE LOYALISTS!☆ ⬇️⬇️⬇️ I could have put the heat pad/ tape underneath the reptile enclosure, BUT wood is an excellent insulator. In the past I have placed a heat pad underneath a wood reptile enclosure and it does NOT penetrate the heat through. This video was to show how heat pads and tape are NOT appropriate for a reptile enclosure made out of WOOD. The truth is critics will ALWAYS have something to say. If I put the heat pad/ tape UNDERNEATH, people would rudly point it out. If I put the heat pad/ tape INSIDE people would rudely point it out as well. I could do 1000 things right and 1 thing wrong and the critics would attack me on that single thing instead of actually being GRATEFULL that I took hours, time and thought to put a video like this together. Have perspective people! Thank you, Talking Serpents
@raymondnormandeau217310 ай бұрын
Can I use a heat pad directly on wood @talkingserpents
@heather39263 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting forever for this video! I just recently purchased a radiant heat panel for my ball python and from your review I see no cons. Yes, it's more expensive but it lasts 20x's more than a heat bulb so in the end you arent really spending any more money. Also, buying an extra bulb for lighting is a must in my opinion to help mimic the sun. So a strong LED is great and they typically last a very long time as well. The heat pad from what I have read should be able to have air flow thats why they are supposed to be used under a glass tank and the tank is supposed to be raised slightly with the plastic pieces they supply. Caulking it or putting it under glass would potentially cause a fire. Another idea for your customers could be to purchase two tiles and sandwich the heat pad in between them with thicker rubber bumpers (the things you use so cabinets dont slam) 😂. Allowing airflow even with substrate and making a nice warm area. Thank you for your time putting together this very informational video. 🤗
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed the video it was definitely time consuming to put together, but very worth it! 😁
@mizund5139 Жыл бұрын
i have used heat pads in the past but never on anything other than a glass enclosure. they do a good job as a secondary heat source for reptiles living in glass tanks but i dont think id ever use them on any other type of enclosure.
@phil6006163 жыл бұрын
I use a radiant heat panel for keeping the ambient temp of my 4x2x2 enclosure around 85F and an under tank heater for 88F belly heat for a ball python. I think a proper combination of any of these, depending on the reptile, and with use of a proper thermostat, is the best idea. That being said, I think a radiant heat panel is a must for any large enclosure that needs a basking spot.
@jajatus20023 жыл бұрын
You have a melamine enclosure? Do you keep the UTH inside under substrate?
@phil6006163 жыл бұрын
@@jajatus2002 PVC, and i stopped using a UTH after researching and realizing they do not provide heat like a real world setting would.
@Zamara003 жыл бұрын
@@jajatus2002 You NEVER put a UTH inside an enclosure. It goes on the outside, underneath.
@6strings7352 жыл бұрын
@@Zamara00 Hi there. Actually you can use them inside if it a dry cage and the cage material is thick or not very heat conducting such that being placed underneath cannot work. I tried a K&H small animal heat mat - it is enclosed in polyethylene plastic and worked great inside an enclosure where having a heat mat underneath is just not possible. But then I switched to a radiant heat panel in that cage and have not looked back. RHPs work great in enclosed cages that have some insulating qualities and where the distance between the panel lens and the animal is not too large. Not sure how well an RHP would work out in a glass enclosure in a cold room.
@alexiscondit8982 жыл бұрын
I would say use more than one method in each enclosure if possible. In smaller enclosures it would be difficult, but as a snake keeper for the last 16 years I'm still working towards better ways of husbandry methods. Keep up the good work.
@50shadesofblue24 Жыл бұрын
Problem with the bulbs is when the light goes out (for night time) it gets to cold in my tank. Have to now have another source of heat for night and the pads just don't cut it. The heating panel I think is the best for a larger set up
@Anonymousynon9 ай бұрын
I have the same problem…
@bigjoe54343 жыл бұрын
I didn't know you could run the heat bulb kit off the herp stat. Thats awesome!
@coreyrilliet9023 жыл бұрын
It was a great rest that no one else covered. I'm just disappointed that you never properly installed the heat pad/tap as that is not how it would go if there was a reptile in the tank. By doing that it took away that validity of the end result of how effective heat tape/pads are in wooden enclosures. Other then that great video and I'm glad you actually conducted the test instead of just talking about it.
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I saw that no one had put a solid video together comparing all of these heating elements. I didn't bother to properly secure the heat pad and heat tape, because it would be unnecessary. The fact is they get too hot and aren't safe enough to use on the inside of a reptile enclosure.
@heddabedda3063 жыл бұрын
I've taken surface temps of my Under Tank Heat pads after they've been plugged directly into a outlet for 2 hours. Five different heat pads registered 114-119 F degrees. When I put them under 1/2" PVC, that temp is reduced ten degrees - so the inside surface of the cage floor is 94-99 F degrees. I then use a thermostat to knock that down a few degrees and keep it at 88-92 F degrees. It's reassuring to me that, even if my thermostat fails, the temp isn't going to spike THAT much. I live in a cold climate and it's helpful in my largest cages to have both a top and undertank heat source so the animal can remain warm/hidden or warm/exposed at all times, even if the ambient temp outside the enclosure is 60 F degrees. I find they choose warm/hidden primarily when they're shedding or digesting a meal and would otherwise prefer to be basking.
@Crumpled4skin11111 ай бұрын
Radiant heat panels are more expensive but in my opinion the way to go. I’ve noticed that my ball pythons are way more active. Also they last forever so you only have to buy it once so long as you follow the instructions. If you’re worried about lightning I go with LED strip lights.
@valeriacortez70033 жыл бұрын
Thank u for this.
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@Backbone-bowhunter972 жыл бұрын
where did you get the heat panel from
@jeffersonshaw279 Жыл бұрын
The wooden enclosure I build with the 1/2 inch ply wood I happened to have on hand at the house finished with the dimensions of L 40" x W 28" x H 36" I had planned on using a heat mat under neath with a ceramic heat amateur sitting on top on the screen cover I build into the top and also a light source of some kind that's on the dimmer side . Can you give me your honest input on what would be my best route of options and way to to one the methods I listed above and of course I have 2 thermastats already purchased and on hand...and the enclosure was build to house a ball python... Side note I absolutely love your channel and videos you put out great job..I look forward to hopefully hearing back from you and your input on my best methods to use in the enclosure..
@nekoreichenberg5967 ай бұрын
Did you build yourself? What precautions if any did you take to make sure wood doesn’t catch fire
@alanalberti4323 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t the heat tap and heat pad go under the pvc enclosure? Good video but really doesn’t depict the difference when h don’t do it correctly
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
Yes heat tape and heap pads go underneath reptile enclosures made out of THIN PVC or GLASS tanks. Since reptile enclosures made out of wood are such a good insulators the heat wouldn't make it through the thickness of wood, making the test even more irrelevant. 😉😁 I see what you're saying, but good try though. 😉
@alanalberti4323 жыл бұрын
@@talkingserpents still would of don’t the testing the correct way guess that’s just me and would of still got your message a crossed and could of explained the reason y to inform people that may have pvc enclosures but I understand u are promoting your product and the best way to heat the enclosures u make 😉 I have wood ,pvc and glass enclosures and yes I heat them all different depending on size and what they are made out of but to run a test accurately u use the products as intended... just saying 😁
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
@@alanalberti432 Yes this video is more geared toward wood reptile enclosures. I needed to make sure I cleared up the constant questions I get from my customers. They always ask ..."Can I use a heat pad or tape" so this was my answer to the masses. That's why I didn't exclude heat pads and tape from this video. 😎 Imagine if I put the heat pad and tape underneath the 3/4" thick wood. People would definitely think I'm out of my mind haha! 😁
@alanalberti4323 жыл бұрын
@@talkingserpents still think your enclosures are amazing looking great
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
@@alanalberti432 Thank you very much.
@nicoleautrey730611 ай бұрын
What's the site to order the bulb you use? The kit you were talking about in this video?!?!?!
@talkingserpents11 ай бұрын
Talkingserpents.com
@phil6006163 жыл бұрын
I am curious why even high-end thermostats are simple on/off controllers, instead of PID. Do you have any good reason why to use a cyclic controller as opposed to a PID controller, which will essentially keep the most even amount of heat?
@TheStr8nubbn3 жыл бұрын
Herpstat has dimming as well as on off.
@Hayah_Ahavah Жыл бұрын
Can I use this heat kit for my bearded dragons. I’m setting up a 4 tier enclosure, in trying to see what’s best
@davewilson3569 Жыл бұрын
If your Heat bulb is on a day/night timer, how is the tank getting heat if the bulb is off for half the day?
@talkingserpents Жыл бұрын
You would need 2 heat bulb kits. One heat bulb kit for day heat and light. Another heat bulb kit for the night heat.
@abigailwilson59282 жыл бұрын
If you use the polyurethane do you need to also use silicone to seal up the corners? I don’t see much on that
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this video was able to answer some of the question you might of had.. Also thanks for watching!!!
@michaeljones-pp3zm3 жыл бұрын
Is there still heat when the bulb turns off
@michaeljones-pp3zm3 жыл бұрын
Is there still heat when the bulb turns off
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeljones-pp3zm Yes, but of course the heat slowly dissipates inside the reptile enclosure. Some of my personal reptile enclosure only use a day bulb because the reptile can benefit off of the nighttime temperature decrease. Depends on the reptile though. Also depends on the temperature of the room that the reptiles are in as well.
@YKoRFC3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeljones-pp3zm 2
@jaimbertonarampage25322 жыл бұрын
Hi can u use a ceramic heat emitter with that same lighting kit?
@talkingserpents2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can definitely use a ceramic heat emitter with our heat bulb kits. Since making this video we have improved a few things to make them even better. We also have an extended Heat Bulb Kit as well. Here is a alink to our website talkingserpents.com
@mscrystaldollable8 ай бұрын
Hi im new. We have similar enclosure with two heat bulb cage kits, but the top of the cage is getting hot to the touch is it from not having a thermostat?
@talkingserpents8 ай бұрын
All of the top of my reptile enclosures are warm to the touch where my heating elements are below it.
@diandralorena2903 Жыл бұрын
Hi,from what material its made from?
@Emma-wi8ri3 жыл бұрын
Idk if you’ll see this but I’m new to all this could the heat bulb kit be installed on a pvc enclosure bought from someone? Like is it pretty easy to make holes for it sorry probably a dumb question 😭
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
My good friend builds pvc reptile enclosures and he uses the same style of heat bulb kits with his reptile enclosure, so yes they can be used on pvc. Here is a link to the new / improved heat bulb kits I have on my website. talkingserpents.com/product/heat-bulb-kit/
@Emma-wi8ri3 жыл бұрын
@@talkingserpents ok thank you!
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
@@Emma-wi8ri My pleasure.
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
@@Emma-wi8ri After talking to my friend who builds pvc reptile enclosures I found out that he uses different bulb fixtures. This particular bulb fixture is a couple inches away from the pvc surface. My apologies for the misinformation. I certainly don't want to steer you in the wrong way. Looks like I need to make a separate heat bulb kit for pvc reptile enclosures to go on my website. 😎👍
@Emma-wi8ri3 жыл бұрын
@@talkingserpents ok thanksss!
@thedevilsreject23 Жыл бұрын
Mate sorry but no- absolutely no - for a start vents are meant to be placed on either the back wall high and low either side or on the sides of the viv with the high vents on the hot side with the lower on the cool- this is essential! It creates the correct air flow and thermal gradient you need, you really need to borrow or use a thermal camera to see how the air circulates inside a viv as you clearly aren’t really aware - I’ve also tested many enclosures of different sizes with a misting machine to have a clear visual clue as to how the air flow is moving - one midway on the back is practically useless and it would be a terrible idea in a bioactive viv setup and you’d get mould and all sorts as a result of poor flow- there’s a couple of vids on the research behind what I’ve said available- I’ve been a reptile/snake especially keeper 35 years and have built many vivs in the uk of varying sizes from the smallest 2fts to 8-15ft ones and correct ventilation placement and size is really important- people have misconceptions on vent placement and size from watching vids like this and with elements in them that go unchallenged and that’s not right - I like your vids but please present correct info and educate people - I say this from years of trial and error and as I said before get a loan of or buy whatever a thermal camera and see how bad your airflow is and your thermal gradient
@karasparling74893 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the heat panel from?
@rickvasquez66772 жыл бұрын
I just read that you can’t use the heat bulb with pvc ? Was planning on building one and using ur bulb. Will it melt ?
@talkingserpents2 жыл бұрын
Hi! 👋 I'm happy to say what you ready was incorrect. We offer 2 styles of heat bulb kits on our website. • standard heat bulb kit - for wood reptile enclosures • extended Heat Bulb Kit - for pvc and wood reptile enclosures. Here is the link for your convenience talkingserpents.com/product-category/heat-bulb-kit/heat-bulb-kits/ Also their are other pvc reptile enclosures manufacturers that don't even use an extension for the heat bulb fixture. We provide an extension for extra assurance.
@mrcass8075 Жыл бұрын
You don’t ship PVC tanks to Canada?
@EM-pq3vx3 жыл бұрын
If using a heat lamp, how does the ground stay warm at night when the light is off? Or is it on 24h? What about Day/Night Cycle?
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
Depending on the reptile I will use 2 separate heat bulbs fixtures, one day, one night time. Running a heat bulb 24hrs a day will shorten the life of the bulb by A LOT.
@debra59552 жыл бұрын
How do you keep the tank warm at night with the heat bulb? Wouldn't you turn the light off at night?
@talkingserpents2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2 heat bulb kits in each reptile enclosure for reptiles that need night heat as well. Their are specific night bulbs.
@gregms76612 жыл бұрын
What do you use at night time to keep the heat up when the bulb is off?
@talkingserpents2 жыл бұрын
I use a night time heat bulb from Zoo Med
@tatesreptileworld86543 жыл бұрын
What size is the enclosure
@kylecanning5640 Жыл бұрын
How did you make the scald guard?
@talkingserpents Жыл бұрын
I do not show how I make our bulb guards, but I do have 2 different versions on my website talkingserpents.com We acutely just finished a large batch of them, so they're in stock.
@trentbrownlee3 жыл бұрын
whats your take on fire hazard? I like your bulb kit but how hot would something like a 150w CHE get the wood?
@6strings7352 жыл бұрын
CHE's get so hot, even at the socket. Today there are better alternatives that do more heating at less wattage compared to a CHE. The options are radiant heat panel and deep heat projector. Both are safe to the touch inside a cage. Especially since many reptile enclosures are plastic, CHEs are no longer a good match.
@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique Жыл бұрын
I found out out wifi router has a strong heat wave if I put my hand in the back 😂
@Mud553 жыл бұрын
How do you keep the ambient temperature up at night if you turn off the bulb?
@peytonlamb22033 жыл бұрын
red bulb or my suggestion is all around forget the different bulbs and get a 60 watt heat emitter bulb it gives off no light and will keep your little friend toasty
@marthasimms71133 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to attach like a zoo med heat pad under the tank? I absolutely love the idea of these enclosures and would love to upgrade to one of these for my leopard gecko! I would love to know if an UTH can be used on the outside as I would hate to burn my gecko! also which radiant heat panel brand would you recommend? are they good for mainly belly heat?
@rblack12193 жыл бұрын
I use a zoo med heat pad under my ball python tank with a thermostat and works very well. I also use pro Products RHP and works wonderfully like natural sunlight. Hope it helps www.reddit.com/r/reptiles/comments/1xuiht/can_you_put_a_under_tank_heater_directly_under/?
@heddabedda3063 жыл бұрын
Yes - they're called Under Tank Heaters because they're not EVER meant to be inside the tank. I loved this video, but the UTHs probably should have been installed under the tank and the moss bowls set on the resulting warm surface area in the tank to see whether that increased the humidity. This is what works in my enclosures.
@stevenblattermann72723 жыл бұрын
hey do u have any 8x4x4 options i didn’t see any how exactly could i contact u
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
I would love to build and ship a 8'wide x 4' deep x 4' high reptile enclosure kit. I have already figured out how to make it happen..you can send me an email for more information at talkingserpents@gmail.com
@stevenblattermann72723 жыл бұрын
@@talkingserpents how can i talk to you where can we have a conversation
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenblattermann7272 email
@stevenblattermann72723 жыл бұрын
@@talkingserpents what’s the email bro
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenblattermann7272 I showed the email on my previous comment.
@Anonymousynon9 ай бұрын
Do you have an email? Im struggling with keeping the heat up.
@bryanturner40942 жыл бұрын
I need to know how you are eating your enclosure when the bulb is off at night
@talkingserpents2 жыл бұрын
I use 2 heat bulb kits, one for day heat/ lighting, the other for night heat
@bryanturner40942 жыл бұрын
@@talkingserpents thanks for answering me is it a ceramic bulb at night I'm planning on getting a enclosure from your site I just want to know how it is set up inside
@Lonelytrekker273 жыл бұрын
What size enclosures are those?
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
The reptile enclosure size i used in this video are 4'x2'x18"
@marjoleinvnoort69613 жыл бұрын
I had my heat tape in my terrarium, it almost got on fire because the animal pooped and pied on the place where the electric is fixed on the heat tape. Will never do it again in the terrarium and I will never advise it. So be careful!!!!!!
@honestpolicy50313 жыл бұрын
Yeah they're absolutely not supposed to be inside the enclosure. Beneath.
@martinaharrisondefault5027 Жыл бұрын
They are safe to fit flat against the glass on the outside with electrical tape? I'm needing something safe for an indoor cabinet used as a humid greenhouse. Need heat and not safe to put a mat inside, so I can only think to tape heat tape to the outside side of the cabinet.
@SilentC903 жыл бұрын
Pro products RHP same size Enclosure 10 year warranty on heat source lifetime warranty on hardware 109 + shipping and handling 124 out the door. ✊🏽
@conradguerrero6293 Жыл бұрын
Heat tape works perfect under enclosure with probe placed on top of the hot spot and works perfectly from top to bottom heat with ambient being perfect as well and humidity is above 50 as well I have 80-82 for ambient and hot end at 90- 92 never put heat tape or pads in the enclosure that’s not a good idea you will burn your reptile
@talkingserpents Жыл бұрын
I have tested and placed heat tape on full power for quite tomorrow time. Heat tape was underneath a wood reptile enclosure and even a pvc reptile enclosure. Almost NO heat comes though the 1/2" thick material , so my data shows it definitely does NOT work. It might as well be "bluetooth" heating 🤣 In other words it is a very ineffective way of heating a reptile enclosure. A radiant heat pannle or heat bulb are proper.
@conradguerrero6293 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you don’t know how to if it’s too thick than it might not work well but in my pvc enclosures it’s been working for me and I use led for lighting with the probe on the inside of the warmer end and I have Retics and Ball pythons I been working with for over 20 years not one had any issues with shedding eating or respiratory issues all healthy as can be the heat lamps are more of a fire hazard and suck the humidity out my humidity is point on I use Animal Plastics and Reptile Habitats as of right now the wood enclosures may have issues pvc is best in my opinion not everyone has the same opinion I use heat panels as well but I used heat lamps years ago and there not for me at all and the reptiles don’t seem to like them all my snakes do not nose rub and are always comfortable and look beautiful try a video with one of those enclosures and you might be surprised I’m not a hater it’s just my experience if the heat source is to small it will not heat properly as well
@talkingserpents Жыл бұрын
@@conradguerrero6293 Thank you for the reply! I appreciate your input and personal experience. How large of heat tape are you using per the size of the reptile enclosure?
@conradguerrero6293 Жыл бұрын
@@talkingserpents for a 6ft enclosure I use a 12x24 heat tape and tape it under the enclosure and the thermostat probe is inside the enclosure on top of the area of the heat tape I set my thermostat to 92 and it is at an average of 90 degrees on the spot and the area and ambient temperature is about 78 to 82 degrees and it works for me I use heat panels for the taller enclosures but the 6ft enclosure is 12 inches high the highest would be about 4ft but if the temperature in the room is really low it might not work as well I give you that but my room temperature is an average of 75 degrees I like the pvc enclosures you have tho they look good
@honestpolicy50313 жыл бұрын
Stomach heat helps with digestion. Give the animal the option.
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
Did you not pay attention during the video? Heat from above mimics the sun, heating up the lower surface. You heat pad people are funny.
@omaranaya3812 жыл бұрын
Heat pad people 🤣 I'm definitely getting one of those heat panels after watching this video
@keithm12733 ай бұрын
Yeah, those little humidity gauges, you’d get a better reading by simply licking the air in the enclosure. Those gauges are usually found at big pet stores and are absolute rubbish, never buy them… EVER!
@MASTURBIKER3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say the heat tape and pad are made for glass enclosures.......
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
Yes you're correct, but some people also use them for pvc reptile enclosures as well.
@MASTURBIKER3 жыл бұрын
@@talkingserpents Never seen a PVC enclosure here, seen them on youtube though, must be a northern thing?
@dustintinsley38993 жыл бұрын
Sorry but this is a poorly executed experiment. Top enclosure will have been affected by the bottom enclosure. And heat tape and pads are not meant to be inside the enclosure.
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
Oh no we've got another critic!! 😂 So ungratefull hahahaha!
@talkingserpents3 жыл бұрын
You should read the pined comment for this video, it is for people with your mentality.
@martinaharrisondefault5027 Жыл бұрын
Or you could of made that clear in the video. There is a reason why most of the comments coming up say this. Just clarify it clearly in the vid.