I saw the title and thought "Oh, so that's how Kyle injured his back" lol. Of course jk, hope you recover as fast as possible Kyle!

I love the explanation of how ‘just bowling with 2 hands doesn’t make you a better bowler.’ I think that is key. The sport seems to be accepting it more with each passing year.

when i picked up bowling a little more competitively, i immediately went to two handed, because my wrist wasn't strong enough anymore to support a ball due to a tennis injury. While i still have some slight pains, it's much better than me trying a one-handed approach. I'm glad it's becoming a more popular thing, and the insight you guys gave was wonderful.

im a 2 hander personally but im still amazed by the arms on some 1 handers, like ej tackett for example

I've bowled one handed my whole life. I started taking bowling seriously May 2021. I struggled to have a high speed and rev rate. I also struggled hitting 200 for 7 months bowling 1 handed. I tried the 2 handed style for a joke one night and found it strange but wanted to get better. So, I stuck with it ever since. My ball speed went up almost instantly and it took me 3 days to break 200. I'm now a committed 2 handed bowler with a 504 rev rate, 15.5-16.5 ball speed, and I enjoy playing straighter angles. It's so cool to see my game progress since I started.

Kyle was a pleasure meeting you Las Vegas a few weeks ago...be great to have you In NYC for that clinic we discussed

I have carpal tunnel and have issues with my wrist. Bowling 1 handed kept triggering something in my wrist that made my whole arm numb. Decided to try 2 handed to relieve some of those issues and it has done WONDERS. Already back to my one handed average and probably slightly better after only 2 months. Now just dealing with back and leg pains, I am getting old, stretching is a must.

Funny thing is that I didn't go 2 handed cuz of belmo or simo. Started throwing it like TD and then was struggling with balance and stability and saw all the 2 handers and was like oh! Now I got 2 hands to keep it stable :D. I don't have a ton of revs and I do enjoy having a medium rev rate instead to control it a bit more and focus on trying to be consistent. Especially trying to be more elbow in style release.

Half thumb 👍🏾 You maintain your grip and are able to get all of your hand around the ball. You can still control ball motion.

Right when I was saying I’m going two handed y’all pull up with a video let’s go.

I started bowling 2 handed 15 years ago at age 20 after seeing belmo and osku for the first time I'm hoping changes in my footwork work from Mike jasneaus class will help me this year. I never thought it would grow this much I gained motivation back then by all the older bowlers saying you aren't gonna get anywhere bowling that way and all the haters criticizing the 2 handed style and it being unique at the time we don't have that extra motivation now with as fast as it's grown like it has

I have been bowling since 1979. Back then the balls barely hooked and we had to make sure not to throw the ball too hard or it wouldn't get to the pocket. The benefit of two-handed bowling is you can generate a lot more power than one-handed bowlers. In the old days two-handed bowling would have only produced straight balls. By the mid 1990s strong balls became available and wood lanes were replaced with superior synthetic lanes. That introduced modern power bowling where you had to throw it hard so it wouldn't hook too much. At that point two-handed bowling became possible and advantageous. Today's bowling, like football, respects power - so using two hands is definitely an advantage. But bowling is also a game that demands accuracy and repeatability, which is harder to achieve if you have loads of revs. So it still mostly comes down to experience and the bowler's ability to calculate and execute so their shot hits correctly. That means if you are a young person starting bowling, then you should learn two-handed bowling, just like you would learn snowboarding instead of skiing (because it isn't cool). But if you are a one-handed bowler with years of experience, then that is fine. You won't become more competitive giving up that experience. In my younger days I would like beating lefties and in PBA matches I would root for the righty (except Mr. Anthony). But now that there are three forms, righty, lefty, and two-handed, I don't care which hand anymore.

As soon as I need something, someone posts a video on it. I am just getting into bowling, just got the shoes, ball and bag, a metallic blue rhino. And I bowl 2 handed and I've gotten a few tips from some people at my bowling alley, and thankyou so much for this video.

I started bowling using my friends dads 15 pound ball from the 80s/90s and did 2 hands cause my weak lil arms cannot support that much weight coming back and forward with 1 arm lol, but need to go buy my own ball that fits my fingers cause that one is WAY to loose on my fingers, my high score is 192 but this was uploaded on my birthday and I'm about to go buy my first bowling ball so hope it all goes good

i started to bowl 2 handed when i was 13, even though i have back injury, i just ignore it because back then, i just played bowling as a hobby. Now that i am 22, i want to start getting serious about bowling, got my buddy to go to the bowling centre once a week to bowl. The thing is my back couldn’t stand the pressure of bowling 2 handed and it is hard to maintain focus, accuracy and basically everything when i play like 6 games in one time, my back hurts so much every time. I’m thinking of switching back to one hand as i figure one hand uses less spine tilt than 2 hands BUT it is super hard when you are are already comfortable and start to get the rhythm with 2 hands. I find it hard to get my hand behind the ball my hand is always on top of the ball causing it to hook a little or no hook at all. nonetheless, there is still a lot of work to be done and i’m excited because one hand bowling is pretty new to me and i love learning new things. wish me luck 💪

Hey seriously .. if either of you EVER come to a tournament on the east coast PLEASE let me know lol My home house is Crofton, MD. Hope to see you guys one of these days.

So I'm a 1 hander and I have absolutely no problem with 2 handers. But every video I watch always talks about nothing but the pros of two handed bowling. People glorify it. But they fail to talk about the cons. I'm actually interested in becoming a coach and I'm in the process so I have a ball that I specifically use to practice 2 handed because I know I will have to coach 2 handers. But as a 1 hander I am terrible at it. I want to know what I'm talking about and in theory I know how to do it but practically I don't. So I think people need to know about the hardships that come with bowling two handed too. Your swing plane changes..your footwork changes your mental game even changes.. people need to hear about that aspect as well.. Just a personal take though.

Two handed is a great option for some. I have tried a couple times to do it and I always go back to one. But you should definitely try it and see how it works for you and your game

“Taken the bowling world by STORM” I see what you did there ⚡️

I think a big part of it is kids keep with bowling while they are at a young age because they can do it 2 handed even if they are smaller. This means a deeper pool of upcoming talent through the youth ranks and what really makes an athlete great isn't the physical skill, it's the mind and the competitive drive. The more kids you have participating in a sport the greater the talent at the professional level will be. As an adult bowler for me I learned how to hook the ball with no thumb one handed and the transitioned to using my thumb as I got used to hooking it and rolling the ball. I can carry a 190+ league average without having to practice. I'm out to have fun and compete with myself so I am happy with my one handed and wouldn't switch now but if I knew about two handed when I started 20 years ago then I probably would be doing it now.

Used to bowl one handed in the dry months and two handed in the humid months before the USBC changed the weight hole rules (still practiced both). Finally got to where I am able to build two arsenals to utilize both options, but have trouble finding a league I can commit to working third shift so only bowl tournaments I can find when I have weekends off.

Just got into bowling 2 months ago, tried going one handed for a good while but I could never get it right and my thumb kept having the skin ripped off of it. Switched to two handed after seeing another guy down the alley throwing that style and I still had a game or two left to bowl. I found it more comfortable, however as you said it's all up to the person. Some days I'll see tons of two handers in the alley, and other days it'll only be me.

Thanks for sharing. I love your insight. The only thing you didn't mention is the wear and tear your thumb suffers during each tournament. A 2 handed bowler's thumb remains out of harms way. In my case. I damaged my thumb and now the first joint is fused. As a result, it is nearly impossible to release my traditional finger tip drilled ball and no pro has been able to drill a new ball that I can release with my thumb used. So I was forced to switch to 2 handed and slowly but surely my average is almost back to my pre-injury level. Thanks again!

Kyle looks pretty good. Hope your recovering well. I just missed st. Charles i should have came down and bowled but left my balls at home. Great video as always.

I agree but also for the one handed if you manipulate your hand like Prather or Buttriff then I think its just as good or even E.J his revs are the same as Belmo. Great video guys thank you

I started bowling with my thumb out in the mid 90s. I couldn't hook the ball enough and some other guy in the league threw thumb out and could hook it like crazy and striking a bunch on the condition we were bowling on. He couldn't pick up any spares though. Took me about a year to get comfortable enough to throw it in league. I would bowl thumb in or out depending on the lane conditions. Never even thought about using my other hand for support. Your quad muscles on your slide leg really have to be strong to get low enough at the line and that takes time to build them up.

Hello you are very helpful you guys helped me online to hook the ball with one hand

I’m actually trying to make the transition from two handed bowling to one handed… I learned off of house balls, then when I picked up my first bowling ball I drilled it wanting to make the transition to traditional bowling. not trying to compete so I can still throw it two handed if I wanted to, BUT super hard getting fundamentals in with traditional!

Can we get a video for no thumb one handed bowlers as that’s what I’ve had the most success with lately

Last time i bowled I tried 2 handed with no prior tutorials had no idea how to do it and I actually did better than one handed

Cool video talk tech bowling brad and Kyle

Got into bowling recently and started off as 2 handler from get go. I just feel like I can cradle the ball much better and get the flat roll or the big hook easily. Not even sure how to use a thumb if I tried lol

I started bowling two handed because when I first started I was using house balls. I obviously couldn’t hook that so some random guy at the alley said, “try it like this” and tossed it two handed and all of a sudden I could hook a house ball! I mean horribly, but it still hooked. By the time I got around to getting my own equipment I had already gotten used to 2 handed. Now my process is dedicated to figuring out how to do it properly :)

never used a thumb in 25 years of bowling, started two handed style three years ago and I’m just now crawling back to a 200+ average, may be more power and revs but without consistency, you’ll have a lot of the same leaves you see the best one handers get

I just wanted to put this down here for anyone who is wondering, I bowl 2 handed with my thumb, and I have no issues clearing or anything, I had issues with it in the past, but I added more pitch to my slug and it fixed the issue, 530 rpm’s, 20.9 mph “averages” 234 average. So, the statement around 2 minutes about how your thumb limits all that is incorrect. I could change just as much with my hand has someone without the thumb. This isn’t a hate comment, it’s just a very informative comment about how I bowl and what I have experienced. And I have been bowling 2 handed for about 5 and a half years now. Been bowling for 16 years. 18 years old… and also when I switched from one handed to 2, I ended up developing a much much much cleaner, and disciplined release.

This video came right on time, i currently bowl with no thumb but use two fingers and have been interested in moving forward and changing my style to two handed bowling. What are some extra tips that you guys could give, as far as hand position, your approach when it comes to how many steps you should take before releasing the ball, etc? Thanks for the video

Thank you so mich

Yes! You read the two handed comments!

Thank you, thank you! Love your show! Super educational! I'm a two-hander, but always incorporate single-handed principles like you say. One question though, I see a trend in not wiping the oil off the ball after every shot--seems to improve scores. Can you comment on that?

I say do both..that's what I do atleast. I'm comparably decent at both (since I just do it for fun) so I use one to cover the others weakness. Yeah I carry more balls around for that but eh, it's fun knowing that outside of my ability, or lack thereof lol, I'll be able to stay on top of any lane condition.

I will say the reason I started bowling two-handed was because I didn’t have a custom ball fit And I didn’t want to spend $150 on a decent bowling ball that was specialy fit and not know if I even wanted to throw one hand or not. But no matter the fit on the ball you can pretty much throw two handed because you don’t need to rely on grip went to handed.

"More power than me and Kyle had at your age" Me: Started bowling two years ago and is 36 years old. :D

I converted to 2 handed after having a wrist injury and always had a comfort issue bowling one-handed.

I thought about switching to 2 hands, I might try it next summer...

For about four years, I went two-handed as a way to deal with a wrist injury. While that worked, I saw my average drop 40 pins and had to transition back to one-handed. My issue was that I could not generate the speed necessary as a two-hander. My revs jumped from around 270 one-handed to 400 as a two-hander, but my speed dropped from 17-18 mph off my hand one-handed to 13-14 as a two-hander. I wish I could bowl two-handed, because the physical stress was less. But I couldn't do it. People would tell me the obvious -- "Walk faster!" ... "Get your feet moving!" ... "Bend over further at the waist!" -- but I could not figure out how to do it. I *thought* I was doing those things until I saw video of myself and realized I was not. What really confounds me is I watch a guy like Matt Ogle or Chris Via throw two-handed and they don't seem to be rushing the foul line (Via doesn't even slide much, if at all) and it just gets depressing.

One thing that wasnt mentioned was the need to have your left hand across your body for much longer making the approach alot more awkward. It may be much harder for older bowlers to manage as the left arm needs to stay supporting the ball alot longer.

I can’t wait to see you tomorrow at the Pro AM

I’ve been bowling two hands and lately I’ve been trying to increase my rev but the ball has been releasing off my hand really weird where my fingers will get stuck or get absolutely no revs and I don’t know what happened

I throw 1 handed but I throw no thumb. Similar to TD and trust me it is harder but once you figure it out and learn how to read the lanes house shots can be made unplayable for some. It can be an advantage there. I used to throw with a thumb (for about 30 years age of 5 to 35) and I cranked the heck out of the ball. Used to have a swing like Rudy Revs. However I had an improper thumbhole and it was too loose. Ball fell off my hand and instead of dropping it behind me I grabbed and forced myself to come around it to hang on. I tore thumb ligaments because of that (at the age of 30) so I struggled for years trying to bowl that I finally taught myself how to bowl no thumb back in 2015. I have been off and on and only back to no thumb permanently for 2 years now (the reason is someone said well you are getting close to 40 might as well throw with a thumb).

Any advice for super senior bowler to be more effective considering we now have many limitations?

As a 28 year old just getting into bowling and learning how, I've chosen to learn 2 handed

Can someone give me some advice, every time i bowl my ball feels comfortable but when i released it the ball doesnt ever hook at all. Ive seen videos of myself bowl and looks like it should but the ball doesnt work the way it should. I just bought this ball about two weeks ago. Any advice will be really helpful

I bowl like Mike Miller was wondering if you are aloud to bowl with a thumb hole if you use one hand no thumb

i have a question that somebody can hopefully answer. For any sanctioned league or tournament, am i allowed to switch from one handed to two handed given that my 2 handed balls and 1 handed balls are legal.

Would this be kinda the same with bowling one hand without the thumb?

Kyle looks great bowling 2 handed.. With a little more practice & adoption, he'll be doing great with it.. As a fellow 2 handed bowler, my set up are: Urethane ball for short patterns Asymmetrical ball for long patterns House ball for some spare shots

Love the song to your intro. What’s the name of the song?….lol

I switched to two-handed because of wrist pain bowling one-handed.

Please tell me this is fresh content and you healed up and can be at the regional this weekend.

Is bowling 2 handed with a thumb hole fine if I don't bowl league?

I'm a one handed bowler. I drill my ball weird I FINGER TIP my thumb hole just like my finger holes. Bc I can get my thumb out because its almost already out. When I first told my proshop that's what I wanted he was like you'll drop it it ain't gonna work. And it was weird for like the fiat game but after that everything clicked rev went up speed followed and been smashing it ever since.

I bowl 3 leagues and I’m planning on doing my two serious league one handed and my fun league 2 handed

I made the switch last year and my strike percentage went up alot but my spare conversion took abit of a dive, was harder to spare than strike at first

Can you have a thumbhole if you bowl one handed But two fingers?

I'm 1 hand with thumb, bowled 25+y. But i started having pain in my ring finger, 2nd knuckle.

What about a one hander that doesn't use there thumb? Is it the same concept? Like how Tom Daugherty bowls.

Is it legal to change styles during a tournament?

Who the second best? Simo or troup??

I bowl 1 handed most of the time but sometimes I’ll just throw two handed during practice just because it’s fun to throw that way

I really like this video obviously we have belmo, osku, troup, packy, etc for amazing two handers. Then the tangs, Brad and Kyle amazing one handers so like you said there's no way that's better than the other. Myself I use two hands because I have a chronic back condition and it gives me more stability and I like the energy transfer.

What’s next? No holes in the bowling ball. Would that be illegal?

Why is my rev rate the same I was 1 handed and switches to 2 and my rev rate has not changed

Hitting your mark is the single most important thing you can do.

There is a 11 year old is m bowling alley that bowled a 801 he also been bowling since 5 years old

So if you bowl both ways,you have to have 2 different balls?

uhmm, if i put my thumb into the ball but throw it like a two hander, what are the rules when it comes to thumbhole?

What about half thumb. If your cannot do two hands half work well too.

I'm a in-between bowler lol I'm a no thumb bowler but I'm not two handed. I can NOT do 2 handed it hurts me for some reason and I cant use a thumb I can never get my thumb out right. I will say I have a higher rev rate and I have good control. its hard to play up 5 but its very doable with a plastic/ dry ball.

Hey what would you guys say about bowling 2handed vs 1handed in terms of Stress on the knee of the sliding leg? I imagine 2handers put more Stress on their knee then 1handers? Anyone?

Everyone gives into cosmic bowling

I was wondering how yall felt about two finger bowling with one hand.

My back hurts whenever I have tried two handed. I do have some chronic lower back issues. If I didn't I would probably make the switch.

Can ej out rev belmonte?

I know 2 handers that for their spares they use their thumb

I’ve bowled my whole life 2 handed with a thumb and have been curious if removing my thumb from my game would be beneficial or not.

I have more revs with my thumb in the ball than without.

The only negative I would believe would be longevity. How long can you bowl two handed before physical problems pop up.

I would like a video of how to learn to bowl one handed if you’re already two handed. I would like to use one handed for short patterns

Will the current two handers make it in the PBA50 when the time comes?

I have tried to switch to two handed but have a hard time with generating any speed any tips?

You can have a thumb you just have to use it im a two handed with a thumb.

Unfair advantage need to ban it! I personally know we'll known professionals that are pissed about it but won't say it publicly

2 handers leave alot more 7/10 splits too

Actually you can have a thumb hole two handed if you use it. My brother uses a thumb for two handed

I'd love to know what both of you would think about someone using one hand, but no thumb. Haha. Rather it's like Tom Dougherty or something more specific to that person. What advice would either of you give someone doing that?

I ended up changing to two handed specifically because the thumb is a pain

Is this a good set of ball: Storm Marvel Maxx Black Storm Proton PhySIX Hammer Bad Intentions Hybrid Motiv Jackal Legacy

"Kyle, why do you think two-handed bowling has taken the world by storm?" Because it's bowling on easy mode. Thats the only explanation you need. Those who can't bowl, bowl two-handed

How can you tell if you have a bad rack

It’s easier. But the greatest players, the ones who win, aren’t always the ones with the best technique. Simo and Belmo are great bowling players, they happen to be two handed. Like everything, there’s the good things and the bad things. It’s not an automatic win ticket.