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How To Identify A Helmet Heat Stamp: WW1 - WW2

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JonBoy Militaria

JonBoy Militaria

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@Lookout37343
@Lookout37343 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the identification info. I purchased a helmet in hopes that it was a world war 1 helmet. Your. Info confirmed that my YJ stamped helmet is what I was hoping it was
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 ай бұрын
Awesome. Congrats on your helmet. Thanks for watching.
@MilsurpMikeChannel
@MilsurpMikeChannel 6 жыл бұрын
This is going to make a great reference video for people to come to.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
Milsurp Mike Thanks man. I am about to uploaded my other video for heat stamps.
@ToastKrimbly
@ToastKrimbly Жыл бұрын
I just recently received late grandfathers World War I Brodie and this video help me a lot. My heat stamp starts with ZA I have no clue where he got it but he used to buy a lot of stuff at various gun shows so it’s a neat part of history and now it’s in my possession
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria Жыл бұрын
That's really cool. You have a Ww1 U.S. Model 1917.
@mrdeuce7
@mrdeuce7 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a WWII nut. You’re the MAN! And yes you are THE expert on KZfaq! I learned so much from you. Thank you so much. Why don’t you publish a book?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
It takes time for sure to gain knowledge. It's like a science. There are some other knowledgeable people out there for sure. Honestly, there are a few collectors that have already published some books that are really good and detailed.
@Spicy_rounds
@Spicy_rounds 10 ай бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria I was wondering if you have ever see. A heat stamp ZN I have one and was wondering if you had ever seen one?
@JohnB-le2pi
@JohnB-le2pi 11 ай бұрын
Great information- thank you! I got a rear seam swivel bale helmet in yesterdays mail that I bought for a very reasonable price online. Looking at the heat stamp I was very happy to see that it was stamped 495A with a big "S" underneath. Score! Thanks again for the video!
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 11 ай бұрын
Awesome. Congrats on your new addition. Thanks for watching.
@MOOEYSMITH
@MOOEYSMITH 6 жыл бұрын
I'm always struggling to date / authenticate helmets. Thanks for this. Especially the info on heat stamps and the font differences.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
MOOEYSMITH No problem man. I am going to post my other video today.
@MOOEYSMITH
@MOOEYSMITH 6 жыл бұрын
Cant wait. By the way be as "long winded" as you like.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
MOOEYSMITH Thanks man. I appreciate you buddy.
@georgebenta3435
@georgebenta3435 Жыл бұрын
I finally got an M1917A1 helmet but it's in relic condition, It still got the metal frame for the liner. It's a world war 1 1917 shell with a ZC stamp. It's rare here in the Philippines since most of the M1917 helmets were scraped when the Japanese invaded. I also got an early fixed bale Schlueter M1 Helmet in relic condition.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Congrats.
@wendelynodell5655
@wendelynodell5655 Жыл бұрын
I have a YJ 131 heat stamp on my WW1 helmet. It has 3/4’s of a liner in it. Also had some sort of design on the side and front of it, but can’t make it out too faded.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria Жыл бұрын
That would be a Ww1 U.S. Model 1917
@jeffbirkmeyer9068
@jeffbirkmeyer9068 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good video. I recently acquired a ww1. Helmet , your video helped me to identify it as a brodie. 1917. It has the textured finish and some of its original cam with a faint cross stripe across the top of the helmet ( not medic ) no liner, but has residue of wool on inside , like first helmet you showed. Thanks, jeff
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. Glad I could help.
@mrdeuce7
@mrdeuce7 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your help I’ve finally bought a fixed bale front seam M1 WWII helmet! Whahoo! Praise Jesus!
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. Congrats.
@reenactmentdays5891
@reenactmentdays5891 2 жыл бұрын
If you want new liners for the m17 or the m17a1 I recommend prairie flower leather co. They make the best quality liners for helmets and they actually have an original Brodie helmet press so their repro helmets are also considered the best.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@spartanumismatics8165
@spartanumismatics8165 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving us tips on the helmets, helmets isn't my specialty so it's nice to add info to your knowledge. Thanks again brother!- isaac
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
Dark legends97 No problem man. I actually recorded my second video for korea - Vietnam but for some reason the video didn't save and I have to do it all over again tomorrow.....
@spartanumismatics8165
@spartanumismatics8165 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man I've done stuff like that! Good luck!
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
Dark legends97 Thanks. I will make it and post it tomorrow.
@woodsytime8307
@woodsytime8307 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, it helped me identify a helmet that I got, A World War I Brody Brodie that has paint on it, thank you very much
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
@thelostboyscout1489
@thelostboyscout1489 5 жыл бұрын
Hey.. Thanks for this vid bud.. It got me to dig out my Great Grandfathers WW1 helmet.. Heat stamp is ZE32. It's not beautiful but the liner is actually good... Thanks again man... J.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Rock -N- Ruin You're welcome. I enjoy making videos. That's awesome that you have your grandfathers helmet. Thank you for his service and thank you for watching. I appreciate it.
@thurin84
@thurin84 6 жыл бұрын
awesome video!!! very informative!!! i especially liked the analysis of the differences between mccord and schleuter. i never noticed the difference between the crossbar on the a. so thanks so much for sharing that!!! as far as production on mccord m1917a1s i recall reading somewhere (dont recall where other than it was in a book) that they made around 1 million. i seem to recall that was an estimation as opposed to firmly documented so take that with a grain of salt, errr ground cork lol. i really look forward to your next video on post war m1s!!!
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
milcoll73 Thanks man. Honestly, I recorded my second video yesterday also, but for some reason it did not save. So I have to record it again... I will post it a little later.
@brandonfarnsworth7476
@brandonfarnsworth7476 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. I think I have a WW1 shell with an updated liner. My helmet has the ZD stamp, and the leather liner, with cotton strap
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@IrrevMike
@IrrevMike 11 ай бұрын
The M1917 WWI Brodie helmet I bought on eBay has 239 ZD stamped on it. I don't know if this particular helmet was ever worn in combat. The original helmet liner and chin strap are present and in remarkably fine condition given the helmet's age. The liner is a size 7 according to the number stamped on the liner.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like you got a nice helmet
@totsuka2213
@totsuka2213 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video, but for impatient viewers (such as me), I'd suggest watching at 1.5 speed, as he talks quite slowly which can be disengaging. Other than that, great job!
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@raider_militaria
@raider_militaria 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 7B kelly helmet with the liner and some of the chinstrap
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
WW2GUY 1 That's awesome
@thIDthIRreenactor
@thIDthIRreenactor 3 жыл бұрын
You said your hand writing isnt the best jeez yours is better then mine
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@thegarage_king
@thegarage_king Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your great work providing us all over the world so good information...I think just found here in Portugal a M1 McCord helmet heat stamp 634A number, can you help me identify the era please. Best regards from across the Atlantic.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria Жыл бұрын
Hey Marco, thanks for watching my videos. Your helmet with a heat stamp of 634A would date around August/September 1943.
@thegarage_king
@thegarage_king Жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria how your the man ... thanks for the fast response mate..thanks again for your fantastic work and passion.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria Жыл бұрын
@@thegarage_king You're welcome. Thanks again.
@mrdeuce7
@mrdeuce7 3 жыл бұрын
I have a couple questions. 1) How do I remove a dent in my WWII helmet? Any ideas? & 2) where can I get a WWII Kacki helmet chin strap. I’ve tried on eBay & the ones the sent me were lame. Your concise videos are awesome. Keep it up!
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if it was me, I would leave the dent.
@mrdeuce7
@mrdeuce7 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! Thank you,
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@chrisheyer1
@chrisheyer1 5 жыл бұрын
i have a wwi style helmet but it is stamped C.L./C. 1942 have you ever seen that?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
chris heyer Its World war 2. Canadian helmet.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 ай бұрын
I got an early war McCord today. The heat stamp is 21 C. A lot of people in groups are saying it has to be 21?C but I'm pretty sure there is no third digit. Is there any precedent for a gap between the numbers and letters on a WW2 McCord? Even if it's 21?C it's a 1942 with original chinstraps, so it's a great piece. But I feel like it's 21C.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 8 ай бұрын
Definitely not an early McCord. McCord M1 Heat stamps started at 25. Yours is either a Schlueter and the S is hard to see or faded or yours is a McCord that has a 3rd digit that is faded or hard to see.
@AdamMann3D
@AdamMann3D 8 ай бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria There is no S and the shape is obviously McCord, so there must be a faint third number. Which puts it at July to September 42.
@GIJeaux1
@GIJeaux1 4 ай бұрын
I have a "Kelly" with the heat stamp stamped into the rim. It is VB56 1SLN. Any idea what that means? The chin strap is like the M17a1. Ive had it for years and when i dug it out a while back I was cleaning it up a bit and a 1938 Lincoln wheat back penny fell out of the sweat band. That was cool.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 4 ай бұрын
What you have is a post Ww2 Dutch helmet that was made in 1956.
@GIJeaux1
@GIJeaux1 3 ай бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria Cool, I wonder what the penny was all about? Thanks for the info.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 ай бұрын
@@GIJeaux1 No telling. It could have randomly fell in there over all the years.
@lilpeepants4202
@lilpeepants4202 3 жыл бұрын
what does the letters mean? I just got a front seem, stainless rim, swivel bail. looks like the corking was replaced with the Korean era sand texture but the color is more if the WW2 greenish brown and also has Vietnam era chinstraps on it with a heat stamp of 991J. Just trying to date it but cant find what the letters mean anywhere
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
Your helmet is a Ww2 McCord and it would date around August/September 1944. I have 991B, 993A and 995A in my collection.
@brandonfarnsworth7476
@brandonfarnsworth7476 4 жыл бұрын
On my helmet the heat stamp is like 2 0 8 ZD The 8 might be a 3, or the letter B
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@malformed534
@malformed534 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a 1917 helmet and its a ZB number 69
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. Congrats.
@joshnw7393
@joshnw7393 6 жыл бұрын
If you can't find any good Kelly helmet liners. Try the prairie Flower Leather Company they have great reproduction liners for American, British, and German helmets in ww1 and I did see Kelly helmet liners
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip man, honestly though, I don't want anything reproduction.
@joshnw7393
@joshnw7393 6 жыл бұрын
JonBoy09 I get that. So good luck finding an original!
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
Joshua Williamson Honestly, I am leaving it as is. Over the years I have thought that really for guys who only collect/display their helmets, not having a liner is not a huge deal. When displayed, liners can't be seen anyways. But, I would prefer to find helmets with liners.
@joshnw7393
@joshnw7393 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's true you don't really see the liner when they're on display.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@dukeian01
@dukeian01 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a Brodie/M1917 with a Heat stamp of HS153 can anyone help me with that?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
British Mk1 helmet made by Hadfield Ltd of Sheffield. Ww1 helmet.
@darylwilliams6815
@darylwilliams6815 5 жыл бұрын
Hey IMA has a near mint condition m4a2 flak helmet for 395.. One only. Don't know if you are interested but it's there
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know.
@UPSILONNEREHTA
@UPSILONNEREHTA Жыл бұрын
Hello friend, I have a sand colored Brodie helmet, the rivet on the harness is not open like the fingers or whatever it is called, that's why I think it's American. It does not have manufacturer's stamps, which makes me think that it was from the first war, according to some, the first helmets did not have stamps. It would not be African either since it does not have marks or holes as a support for a mesh that they used. Could it be a 1917 Brodie?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria Жыл бұрын
The British Mk1 helmets had split rivets. American Model 1917s had the regular rivets. The heat stamp has probably faded over time or been painted over.
@peresgp
@peresgp 4 жыл бұрын
Asking again 7A could be a Kelly?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, a Kelley is a Model 1917A. Yours is a Kelley.
@landendimaggio5659
@landendimaggio5659 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know which company used B in the stamp
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
McCord with M1s
@mattstone6978
@mattstone6978 5 жыл бұрын
I have a camo With a YJ 146 stamp
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Matt Stone That's cool man. So it would be a World War One Model 1917 U.S. helmet.
@n.nicolas2290
@n.nicolas2290 3 жыл бұрын
Is the M1917A1 kelly helmet is thesame size and shape of the M1917 ww1 helmet?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
They are for the most part the same size. Just a different liner setup.
@TheAverageSushi
@TheAverageSushi 2 жыл бұрын
My M1917A1 is stamped 16A.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome
@michaelbenjmitchell1
@michaelbenjmitchell1 2 жыл бұрын
@JonBoy09 was there other manufacturers of the M1951 M1 helmets other than McCord or Schluter?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
McCord is the only one that I have heard of
@1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261
@1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261 6 жыл бұрын
Now I'm not all too sure how British WW1 helmets are dated, but the one I own in particular is stamped HS 155, in a very specific font.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
1st Calvary Divison Militaria I have an HS stamped British mk1 also.
@1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261
@1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261 6 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming it's probably a pretty common stamp then? Have you ever seen another example of one?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
I have seen some over the years on the internet.
@1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261
@1stcalvarydivisonmilitaria261 6 жыл бұрын
Alright. And thanks for this video, I was checking out one of my helmets that has a post war liner that says it's dated 1953. I found out it's a schlueter, stamped in the 400 range. I'm pretty sure it's repainted though, because it's practically 100% intact, the helmet looks over all unissued it's so nice, except for a very scrapes in the front and tearing on the chinstrap. Do you know it OD #7 chinstraps were used during WW2 or if they were a 50's thing, I ask because my helmet has that color of chinstrap.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
1st Calvary Divison Militaria OD7 would have been late war 1944 - 1945...
@reenactmentdays5891
@reenactmentdays5891 3 жыл бұрын
I got a m1917 helmet and i am trying to find the heat stamp, I checked the brim of the helmet but found nothing. Is there anywhere else i could find it or is it worn away?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
Some stamps weren't very deep and so they can fade easier over time.
@historyhunting_usa4665
@historyhunting_usa4665 5 жыл бұрын
I got a WWI 91st infantry helmet that says YJ184 as the heat stamp. Anyone got any idea?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely a World War One Model 1917 for sure.
@Cam-rw5lc
@Cam-rw5lc 3 жыл бұрын
I got a helmet with the serial numbers of 1284D. Do you know what ear its from?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
Late Ww2 McCord. Would date to about the end of the war. Around July/August 1945.
@StuG-
@StuG- 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I have a M1 with the heat stamp 125A. I have another m1 with the heat stamp 1087D I think. Not sure what year its from.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
Is the 125A a McCord or Schlueter?
@StuG-
@StuG- 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria I think it's a McCord. I cant see the letter S anywhere on it.
@michaelbenjmitchell1
@michaelbenjmitchell1 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I got your helmets sister mine is 126 but it is from the Delta Lift. BTW those would be ex-Fixed bale McCords right?
@amarie1001
@amarie1001 2 жыл бұрын
i have a helmet with the heat stamp FS 56A, could someone help me identify it? i thought it was ww1 but now i’m second guessing myself 😅
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have instagram? If you do, you could send me photos of the helmet and I could tell you for sure what you have.
@amarie1001
@amarie1001 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria i do! let me go take a few pics real quick and i’ll let you know when i’m done. thanks so much!
@amarie1001
@amarie1001 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria sent you some pics 🙃
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
I just responded on instagram.
@metaman1831
@metaman1831 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm my helmet just has a C on it or maybe the other letters wore off. What could it be? Now that I look at it, it might be a schlueter.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 4 жыл бұрын
Alot of times the numbers were faintly stamped. They could have faded over time. Alot of times the heat stamp was painted over as well.
@peresgp
@peresgp 4 жыл бұрын
Hello I am from Brazil and I bought a helmet with 7B mark could be a P17-A1? Congrats great video
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you have a Model 1917A1 Kelley helmet.
@peresgp
@peresgp 4 жыл бұрын
JonBoy09 thanks but I’m wrong is 7A! Sorry
@charlesgill1220
@charlesgill1220 6 жыл бұрын
did the Mcords and schlueters only have A letters after the heat stamp number or where there b c and other letters thank you
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
MikDouble Films The McCords had A through I believe J or K. I have a McCord that ends with a J. Schlueters were A and B. I have never seen a schlueter with a C, D, etc
@charlesgill1220
@charlesgill1220 6 жыл бұрын
thank you. One more question so if i had heat stamp 457A on a mcord the only other 457A to exsist is the schleuter 457A or is it for 22 million heat stamps they reused heat stamp numbers? thanks
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
MikDouble Films A McCord with a 457A heat stamp would date to around February/March 1943 where as a 457A schlueter would date to late 1944.
@charlesgill1220
@charlesgill1220 6 жыл бұрын
im sorry i meant lets say i have a 387A are there more than 1 of that helmet with the exact same numbers and letter by McCord also what would a 387A schlueter date too thank you sorry for the inconvenience​
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
MikDouble Films Yes for example McCord would have a certain number of helmets produced per stamp. So say there is a 387A heat stamp, they might have made 5,000 of those and then 388A made 5,000 then 389A made 5,000, etc
@esau_nunez
@esau_nunez 4 жыл бұрын
Type B Brodie history en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brodie_helmet
@kalebkroeger5550
@kalebkroeger5550 6 жыл бұрын
Mine is ww2 m1 is 86 g so what would that be
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
Kaleb Kroeger That would date around February/March 1942
@kalebkroeger5550
@kalebkroeger5550 6 жыл бұрын
JonBoy09 Thank you man I always like how I can ask you any question and you always have a quick response so thank you.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
Kaleb Kroeger You're welcome man. Anytime. I always try to respond as soon as I can.
@23ukcat
@23ukcat 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a M1917 helmet at an antique store. It has a stamp ZO183. Do you think this to be one made in 1918?
@23ukcat
@23ukcat 2 жыл бұрын
Took a closer look and it appears to be ZC183.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
@@23ukcat Definitely Ww1 Model 1917. Probably made in late 1917 or 1918 for sure
@martinsmilitaria283
@martinsmilitaria283 5 жыл бұрын
I’m confused, I found a decently priced Brodie helmet and the heat stamp is “7g37” any ideas?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
The 7 is a Z. It might have partially faded away.
@brandonfarnsworth7476
@brandonfarnsworth7476 6 жыл бұрын
I have a Kelly helmet I think. Anyway it doesn't have a heat stamp, but instead it has the date 1940. Do you know anything about this?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
Brandon Farnsworth The U.S. didn't stamp dates on helmets. What you have would be a MK2 British Helmet.
@kilo393
@kilo393 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video.It really helps for reference.I have a fixed bale m1 with a 207A heat stamp.Im pretty sure its a McCord.Is there any way to date these helmets?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
Heptonic48 It is a McCord? If it id, then it would date to about June 1942. If it is a Schuleter, then it would date around December 1943ish ...
@thurin84
@thurin84 6 жыл бұрын
theres a chart floating around the internet. if your on facebook i have an album with useful m1 charts.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
milcoll73 I shared a Schlueter chart on the facebook group about a year or 2 ago that I came across on usmilitariaforum.com .. it might be the same one...
@Ks-zv6js
@Ks-zv6js 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve put up vid on my nam m1s
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
I will be sure to check it out.
@Ks-zv6js
@Ks-zv6js 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Ks-zv6js
@Ks-zv6js 5 жыл бұрын
The one with graffiti is original cover and Austrian shell the first one is all original us
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ks-zv6js You're welcome
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ks-zv6js Oh ok
@thistlenstar
@thistlenstar 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I just acquired an M1917 like your first example, with heat stamp ZJ135. The helmet has quite a lot of the original paint with the sand or sawdust finish, and some areas with rust. I usually collect older helmets so I generally use Renaissance wax on them. But, it doesn't work so well with the sanded paint. What do you use as a preservative?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I dont put anything on them
@thistlenstar
@thistlenstar 5 жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria Thanks, that's probably the best course. Thank you for the advice.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
@@thistlenstar You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
@_.-._.-._.-._.-
@_.-._.-._.-._.- 2 жыл бұрын
I've come into possession of an M1917 with the heat stamp of "Z H" (can't make out any numbers clearly through the patina). The helmet has the emblem of the Third Army (looks like the shield of Captain America in color scheme except for a letter A instead of a star) on the front and the rank of Corporal denoted on the side. And although hard to make out through the patina, it was painted completely in a full camouflage pattern. Is it pretty safe to assume this was likely worn in Germany as a part of the Allied Army of Occupation around 1919 (in-between the Third Army symbol and heat stamp)? This was passed down through my family and I'm trying to piece together some family history to determine which relative it might have belonged to.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have a great family heirloom. Like you mentioned, alot of helmets were painted after the war. So there is a chance that it was painted and worn overseas after the war
@_.-._.-._.-._.-
@_.-._.-._.-._.- 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria Yeah it's a really interesting time period for WWI in between the Armistice and the Versailles Treaty. But that's what I trying to determine more exactly as far as how long it might have been used with that heraldry. The Third Army was apparently deactivated on July 2, 1919 in Germany though and wasn't reactivated until 1933 in preparation for WWII (for which it then became known as Patton's Third Army in WWII). But I'm unclear on if the Third Army insignia from WWI might have been continued to be used in the intra-war period as a part of the US Army Forces in Europe after July 2, 1919 or if the insignia would have been changed. And btw, thank you for making this video. Extremely helpful!
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
@@_.-._.-._.-._.- Lots of history for sure. There is always more to learn. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@CreatorBrix
@CreatorBrix 9 ай бұрын
i got this helmet its says ZB43 on it and its the first type you showed but the problem is its smooth and i cant figure out why
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 9 ай бұрын
That is a Ww1 US Model 1917. It may have been refinished at some point.
@CreatorBrix
@CreatorBrix 9 ай бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria ohh that’s why it’s smooth thank you. Does that mean someone repainted it and sanded it down?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 9 ай бұрын
@@CreatorBrix It may have been rusted/in rough shape and someone wanted to restore it so they may have sanded it down/cleaned it up and then repainted in. Without seeing it it would be hard to say for sure.
@bdub2957
@bdub2957 6 жыл бұрын
Jonboy,My 1917 helmet liner has fallen apart. Do you recommend replacing with a replica?I enjoy your videos!
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it would really just be personal preference. The liners can't be seen when the helmet is displayed usually. But, if you were to use the helmet for impressions/etc then it probably would be best to replace it.
@offbeatmaniac400
@offbeatmaniac400 Жыл бұрын
would a 90B be a schlueter?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria Жыл бұрын
Could be a McCord or Schlueter. Do you see a Letter S underneath the heat stamp?
@offbeatmaniac400
@offbeatmaniac400 Жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria there may be a s, its faded, the height of the letters are the Schlueter style
@offbeatmaniac400
@offbeatmaniac400 Жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria i looked at it more and there is a S! it is just faded
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria Жыл бұрын
It's a Schlueter for sure then.
@woodsytime8307
@woodsytime8307 2 жыл бұрын
I also have a question, I have a 1917 Brody, comma but has no Liner, but has the Rivette with the original padding, should I remove the rivet and put a replacement liner in or keep it as is ?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
I would leave it like it is myself. I just display my helmets and no one can see inside unless the helmet was turned upside down. Some people would replace the liner and some would not. It really just depends on what you want to do.
@woodsytime8307
@woodsytime8307 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria thank you
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 2 жыл бұрын
@@woodsytime8307 You're welcome
@SteveMrW
@SteveMrW 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I now have a FS, SB. It has the dimple in the rim by the bales and has the number 378 (B?) as the heat stamp. Have I found another McCord formerly FB helmet?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. It would date around November/December 1942
@SteveMrW
@SteveMrW 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria Thank you for confirming it. The other shell is a McCord stamped 174, that I bought a couple of months ago here in the U.K. Each one cost me about £60.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
@@SteveMrW Awesome
@tbuxt3992
@tbuxt3992 4 жыл бұрын
I have a ZG35!
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome
@stuka4487
@stuka4487 Жыл бұрын
866E? Is that a possible stamp
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria Жыл бұрын
Yes, that would be a Ww2 McCord helmet. It would date around March/April 1944.
@stuka4487
@stuka4487 Жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria appreciate it👍
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria Жыл бұрын
@@stuka4487 You're welcome. Anytime.
@livinghistorymilitaria
@livinghistorymilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I picked up my 1st helmet a little over a month ago, after trying to find a stamp under the brim for a day or 2, I found it to be in the back left "corner" of the helmet, my video doesnt show it well but 447A was the stamp, i thought it was an odd placement for the heat stamp, is that normal?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Heat stamps can be found in some strange places for sure. It makes me wonder if somebody at the warehouse was a little drunk some days. Lol.
@livinghistorymilitaria
@livinghistorymilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously though haha
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@MayO_-yf8so
@MayO_-yf8so 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I just bought an m1 helmet today for $20. The heat stamp is 1235 A. Could you tell me what era and maker this helmet is?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
Lat Ww2 mcCord. It would date around May/June 1945.
@MayO_-yf8so
@MayO_-yf8so 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria that's awesome. Thank you!
@MayO_-yf8so
@MayO_-yf8so 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonBoyMilitaria is it common for them to put brown tape on the front and back of the helmet? The name on the tape is Msgt. Brown.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
@@MayO_-yf8so You're welcome
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 3 жыл бұрын
@@MayO_-yf8so Not really uncommon
@seiya2352
@seiya2352 5 жыл бұрын
i have a helment witha heat stam :53c
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Is it a front seam?
@figglehorn165
@figglehorn165 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, anyway I can know a helmet is real, I want to get a WW1 US helmet off of Ebay but I don’t know how to confirm it’s real
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 5 жыл бұрын
Look for heat stamps
@kilo393
@kilo393 4 жыл бұрын
Also looking up pictures of originals in people's collections helps too.
@charlesgill1220
@charlesgill1220 6 жыл бұрын
Hi I had a question my WW1 USA Helmet is like this H.? --- A57Z The question mark is because I cannot make out what that stamp number is and also I am not sure if the A is really there thank you for your help
@charlesgill1220
@charlesgill1220 6 жыл бұрын
The H.? Is over the bars
@charlesgill1220
@charlesgill1220 6 жыл бұрын
Jon Boy did u like my comment? and if so is everything good with this Helmet?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
MikDouble Films Sounds like you have a British Mk 1 helmet. I have seen some with an H V over bars/numbers before.
@charlesgill1220
@charlesgill1220 6 жыл бұрын
JonBoy09 Thank you very much for this info I paid 45 bucks for it and I love it now would this Helmet be 1917 or later/earlier
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
MikDouble Films No problem. It would be a World War 1 British Mk 1
@jenniferszalay3090
@jenniferszalay3090 7 ай бұрын
I have two helmets. Are you interested in buying them at all? I can send you pictures.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 7 ай бұрын
Hey thanks for reaching out. Can you message me on my JonBoy Militaria Facebook page or my JonBoy Militaria Instagram? Thanks.
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 7 ай бұрын
I am interested to see what you have
@charlesgill1220
@charlesgill1220 6 жыл бұрын
I sent you a Helmet picture was just wondering if you could look at it and let me know if it’s fake and all of that stuff thanks
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
MikDouble Films When did you send the picture?
@charlesgill1220
@charlesgill1220 6 жыл бұрын
JonBoy09 7:47 PM EST
@charlesgill1220
@charlesgill1220 6 жыл бұрын
Also would you maybe know what time the Helmet was produced if you don’t no worries the heatstamp is ZD126
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
MikDouble Films I haven't seen a picture. Where did you send it to?
@JonBoyMilitaria
@JonBoyMilitaria 6 жыл бұрын
MikDouble Films I have never seen a chart breaking down month/year production on ww1 helmets.
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