How to identify and locate a parasitic drain

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Justin Miller

Justin Miller

9 жыл бұрын

How to determine if a vehicle has a parasitic (key-off) battery drain and, if so, how to identify which circuit is causing it.

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@ryancornett7916
@ryancornett7916 3 жыл бұрын
This is the fifth video I've watched now on this subject and by far it was the most helpful and thorough.
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was helpful!
@veridianmusic2084
@veridianmusic2084 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I would add: Before you hook your DMM into series on the negative side, you should hook a 10 amp (or whatever your meter is rated for) fused jumper wire in place of the DMM. If the fuse blows, you know that there is more current flowing than your meter can handle. It’s a simple step that is quick and easy and will save you a bit of grief when trying to locate the source of the drain.
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
great tip!
@zekyday8064
@zekyday8064 6 жыл бұрын
Being an engineer, I can tell you that your videos are simply easy to follow. Thanks. Create more videos.
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@johntingle455
@johntingle455 4 жыл бұрын
A
@ravineseder3133
@ravineseder3133 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! No useless commentary or super-dummy-level instruction like every other video-maker, he just gets right to the point.
@greghercher2068
@greghercher2068 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched 4-5 of these videos on the subject and not a single one of them was anywhere near as good as this one. Well done and thanks for the good description.
@windward2818
@windward2818 2 жыл бұрын
Some tips: 1) After you defeat the switches and sensors to allow access to all of the fuse panels, the vehicle will need time to go to sleep. It would be good to know how long to wait before a current reading is actually the proper sleep current or sleep current + a parasitic draw, so if you work on the same make of vehicle it might be helpful to test a "normally" working car to see what the sleep current and sleep timing actually looks like. Also, it is helpful if you ask the customer how the car is left after driving. If it is parked in a garage it may not be locked. A max normal sleep current is most likely 50mA or less although it really depends on the vehicle and accessories. 2) It is easier to use a clamp meter as an initial test, like the B&K Precision Model 316, which has a 1mA resolution on the 10 Amp range. The real challenge to using the 316 clamp meter is to get the jaws around all of the battery feed cable. 3) Once the vehicle is asleep if you disconnect the battery the vehicle will reset and the problem may go away after you insert the DMM. If you want to install a shunt (DMM) into the circuit do so in such a way that you do not break the circuit. DMMs have the disadvantage of having a burden voltage when reading current, and if overloaded may blow a fuse. Some perisitic draw problems actually require a key on to key off sequence to recreate the problem the vehicle may draw more than 10 Amps if you go key on. 4) Parasitic loads are not necessarily static in nature, they may be periodic or have a more complex waveform. If I see my clamp meter reading jumping around I know the parasitic draw current is dynamic. To get a better idea of what is going on I use my Fluke Scopemeter and Fluke current probe, both are battery operated, to understand the current signature. 5) Another issue with doing parasitic draw troubleshooting is usually when the problem shows itself the vehicle will usually not start without a jump. So when it arrives at the shop the battery is almost dead. Charging the battery fully to a point where it can be relied upon to provide enough energy to complete the testing will take time. A quicker option is to put the vehicle on "life support". I use a linear DC power supply with current limit and reverse current blocking diode (much like what is in the old fashion chargers called a rectifier or stud mount diode and heatsink). I can then increase the system voltage from the battery or jump start posts, so I can do my testing without the battery going dead. I can actually put a slight charge on the battery while I do my testing. Much like you may do when reflashing modules in a vehicle. I like the linear DC supply over a DC switcher because it has about 50 times less ripple or noise. 6) Parasitic draw troubleshooting is difficult to teach because the problems are so diverse. So it is helpful to have many different approaches to identifying the cause.
@andrewhoward7200
@andrewhoward7200 4 жыл бұрын
Really useful. Especially the tip about not removing the fuses. Thanks.
@albieviciouz4198
@albieviciouz4198 2 жыл бұрын
by far the most helpful useful video that actually works! THIS IS THE WAY they brought me a ford f250 with parasitic draw they took it to 2 different shop and could not find anything. thanks to this video step by step i followed and solved the issue. thank you for this awesome video
@brandonsibley8528
@brandonsibley8528 4 жыл бұрын
I've searched & watched videos on this for about an hour. You were the only one that explained where & how to hook up the circuit tester & with great focused video. TYTYTY
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad it helped!
@russiandrivers9986
@russiandrivers9986 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The way you explain it makes it easy to understand. Before I was confused as to why people were measuring a voltage drop instead of pulling the fuses and measuring amps.
@nealcordova1103
@nealcordova1103 5 жыл бұрын
Clear voice and precised demonstration very easy to understand. Good job men.
@urdulearner8221
@urdulearner8221 7 жыл бұрын
Great video and great explanation. I wish you went further where you finally would overcome the drain !
@AndrewSteitz
@AndrewSteitz 5 жыл бұрын
I like measuring the mV across the back of the fuses instead of removing fuses to see if the Amp draw drops like it says in other videos. In my case I KNOW there is a parasitic draw because I just got a new battery a few days ago and after letting car sit a few days (with everything off and all doors closed) so I won't need to mess around with disconnecting the battery cable to hook up the meter in series, I can just go straight to measuring the voltage across the fuses. Brilliant idea.
@timleary493
@timleary493 4 жыл бұрын
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@Darren1983uk
@Darren1983uk 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great vid, i'm a newly qualified level 3 technician and I have a lot to learn still I know but your vids are giving me extra diagnostic procedures to carry out and understanding. Cheers bud!
@rahrah8076
@rahrah8076 5 жыл бұрын
You explain everything so well and it’s very easy to follow and understand..
@brentcolons6621
@brentcolons6621 4 жыл бұрын
you have the MOST comprehensive and thuro parisitic drain testing in all of youtube. thankyou sir. subscribed.
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it is helpful! Thanks.
@izzys5745
@izzys5745 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, most informed video on this problem. Wish all videos were this articulate. Will try this out, have had this problem with many cars and could never find a good video on parasitic drain. Thank you
@torylynn2913
@torylynn2913 5 жыл бұрын
Love this video!!! Kept it simple and to the point!
@davegoud
@davegoud 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid....the only thing i would add is if you have a large parasitic draw like in this video I usually start by disconnecting the alternator before going to the fuse box. From past experiences of bad diodes in alternators even if you pull all the fuses the drain remains
@davidcrandon2329
@davidcrandon2329 4 жыл бұрын
Aha! Maybe this is my issue. I have a Honda S2000 which has a parasitic draw of 0.4A that continues even if all the fuses are pulled. Before I test the alternator, do you any other ideas of components that can draw but don't go through fuses?
@azmalu
@azmalu Жыл бұрын
Thank you for documenting this and making it simple to understand !
@edsalvador5939
@edsalvador5939 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I learned more from video like this then I do at my work shop. I am going to level 2 this year for automotive technician
@nigelkirk1683
@nigelkirk1683 5 жыл бұрын
worked a treat, most helpfully presented, thank you
@anthonybronson8231
@anthonybronson8231 4 жыл бұрын
Bravo Justin you have made my day so simple and works thank you sir excellent fast and simple no momble jomble crap talk awesome....
@Jajatube1
@Jajatube1 Жыл бұрын
you are a great teacher, keep making more videos.
@jimmywells33
@jimmywells33 Жыл бұрын
Would be awesome if there was a second part to this video showing how you tracked down the draw after figuring out what circuit it was on.
@tbirdpimp07
@tbirdpimp07 6 жыл бұрын
Real slick man i woud have never thought to watch volt drop across fuses thanks for posting
@PTran-ng6gl
@PTran-ng6gl 3 жыл бұрын
May check for blow fuse?
@PIANOSTYLE100
@PIANOSTYLE100 3 жыл бұрын
Cody..I am a former electronic tech.. That would have come in handy years ago. I even saw where somebody was using 1 ohm resistor ..dont remember how it was used.. but the voltage was supposed to be current of the fuse. I have not tried it..
@AlphaAquilae
@AlphaAquilae 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Recently my car drained out battery over night. After watching your video I've found that ABS is draining almost 2 amps. It turned out that ABS fuse and contacts in fuse box has been oxidized. Also last few months ABS light on dashboard popped out a lot. Now I know what was causing that.
@sandyande
@sandyande 9 жыл бұрын
Great tips, many thanks sandy
@albievicious
@albievicious 2 жыл бұрын
Wow such a detailed amazing video by far the most efficient and reliable video
@somerandomname9252
@somerandomname9252 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video. That probably all of us have had to dealt with at some point, or even currently (battery drain). Will refer to this video.
@rosefollet4700
@rosefollet4700 3 жыл бұрын
my Honda Odyssey developed a parasite. This video gave me a lot of info. much appreciated. Keep up the good work!
@frankie2234
@frankie2234 7 жыл бұрын
Best vid so far. Thanks.
@aeromustang4054
@aeromustang4054 4 жыл бұрын
Good advice...I didn't know I could check those types of fuses like that...thanks
@donewithutube
@donewithutube 4 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
@kennymason7648
@kennymason7648 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, following your teaching, I was able to identify the problem, faulty radio circuit.
@mrsanders835
@mrsanders835 7 жыл бұрын
hey this is good video, strait to the point and informed, good job
@azclaimjumper
@azclaimjumper 3 жыл бұрын
I've just subscribed & rang the notification bell. Your video was my guide in tracking down a parasitic grain on my neighbors vehicle. Thank you. I've searched for a Battery Disconnect switch, however, I was unable to find one with small pins for connecting small alligator clamps to it.
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it is not available where you live, but I purchased my disconnect tools on Amazon or Ebay.
@demasterafrica8013
@demasterafrica8013 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, you'r plan works, I had the same problem in South Africa
@zamzammrfixit3113
@zamzammrfixit3113 4 жыл бұрын
Kool
@KeithSWD
@KeithSWD 3 жыл бұрын
These guys are great! i no longer rush to our RSA tricky mechanics nowadays.
@numinous4789
@numinous4789 6 жыл бұрын
I've heard the rule of thumb vary from 30mA to 50mA. It really depends on the spec range of the car. Good vid.
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 6 жыл бұрын
You're right. It all comes back to the guideline that says that a 1-amp drain over a 24-hour period will typically drain a fully charged battery to the point that it won't be able to start the car. So, a .5-amps drain would take 48 hours, a .25 amp drain would take 96 hours (4 days), and so on. Based on this math, a 50mA drain would prevent the car from starting after 20 days of sitting, and a 30mA drain would take 33 days. Not to mention that a battery's life is shortened when it spends any amount of time sitting in an undercharged state. I guess the best rule is that the lower the drain is, the better your life will be!
@valibu71
@valibu71 3 жыл бұрын
Great video not confusing at all, great job Thank You.
@snaproll94e
@snaproll94e 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. One small observation and you fixed this at the end of the video but didn't point it out. When using vice grips, don't connect the meter lead to the handle that releases it. That handle is loose and floats on pins so it may not provide a good connection which could give erroneous readings. It is much better to connect to one of the outside handles or better yet, one of the jaws touching the post. Thanks for the video.
@rolandbrooks386
@rolandbrooks386 3 жыл бұрын
Check voltage drop on each battery post to its respective cable as well... Nice video, and thanks for your time
@alanedwards4114
@alanedwards4114 5 жыл бұрын
Superb!!!!! Just sorted my 2 cars. Thanks
@TheJhaley12
@TheJhaley12 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, best I've seen. I sure wish you guys could work on my Ford Escape, no one around here has a clue how to find and fix this problem.
@AceDublB
@AceDublB 6 жыл бұрын
TheJhaley12 Did you ever find the problem, I have a 2009 Ford Escape, hoping it isn’t the Alternator as it is expensive.
@masterdanprice2904
@masterdanprice2904 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. That is very smart. Thanks for the power. Information is power.. one less trip to the mechanic
@andyworku5128
@andyworku5128 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video..Thank you for your time and knowledge.
@adriannyasia
@adriannyasia 5 жыл бұрын
by far the best explanation on KZfaq.
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@johncollins8304
@johncollins8304 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous camerawork and commentary. TX a lot!
@mortvid
@mortvid 2 жыл бұрын
Justin I own a Euro shop and have fought with under dash fuses trying to hold both leads with a single hand and making a good contact across the fuse while watching the meter for years. It's like holding chopsticks and after 40 fuses or so behind a glove box your hand will have cramps and you will be ready to say screw this car. I was looking for a better lead to bridge the fuses in tight spaces and stumbled across a very smart technique from another techs thinking out loud that changed the game. They make things like the calvan amp hound and tweezer type connectors to make it easier to get on both sides of the fuse but under a dash it's still a royal pain. So here it is. Find an empty fuse hole in the block that is live with key off on the power buss side and stick a spade connector in it. Run it to your plus side of your tester. If you can't find this just run the lead to any battery plus connection up to and including the battery +. Now you can test all the fuses in the block with only the negative lead in hand having only to make one connection on the cold side of the fuses. Readings are identical to checking across each individual fuse. There will be a third thing you will see though besides dead zero and a small miliamp reading. When you check a fuse that is not hot with the key on you will usually get some type of a ground through the consumer on the circuit and your meter will read out of range for miliamps. This doesn't matter though because this circuit is not hot with the key off and isn't a suspect in your hunt for the parasitic draw. You can eliminate it. Enjoy!
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip! That is a new idea that I have never thought of!
@mortvid
@mortvid 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustinMillerAutomotive One caveat Justin, the further you get from the fuse with your power source you may read higher milliamp readings on fuses with current flowing than if you measured across the fuse but that's ok. I don't use the miliamp conversion charts anyway. The dead ones will always read zero. Once you identify the fuse/fuses of interest you can use more precise pinpoint tests moving forward with the diagnosis. Hope that makes sense.
@alm7707
@alm7707 5 жыл бұрын
great video Justin Miller. I have found that on older cars that have had a remote car starter installed that it is the remote starter box that is drawing current. Seems when they get old they don't shut down or something. Check that the alternator isn't the problem. I'm just working on a semi with 4 -1125 amp batteries that go dead in a week.
@barelywoke7114
@barelywoke7114 5 жыл бұрын
AL M --I have an old truck with shaved door handles. The receiver was my drain. The receiver is similar to a remote start keyless entry module. Thanks for the tip!
@gopher280
@gopher280 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video, helped to finally understand how to do this.
@smid2550
@smid2550 3 жыл бұрын
when you found the circuit that was leaking voltage, why didn't you pull the fuse to see if the amp draw dropped?
@alabaiCA
@alabaiCA Жыл бұрын
Good question. When you pull it out the drain should stop...
@TheFatNumpty
@TheFatNumpty Жыл бұрын
@@polarlab113 why? I didn’t see the part where he pulled the fuse either, they just skipped right to the part about that shutoff device thing?
@wolfjay1343
@wolfjay1343 6 ай бұрын
When You Pull A Fuse Out It Can Wake Up Other Circuits And Cause The Amperage To Spike Causing You To Record It Incorrectly
@yungtomb9374
@yungtomb9374 6 ай бұрын
​@TheFatNumpty so what are you lost on if you find the bad circuit you can just pull that fuse for temporary relief depending what that fuse controls youll then start looking at the wiring diagram to that circuit. So say it the fuse for horn was drawing power then youd follow the horn, wiring and everything inbetween and repair that actuall issue. He explains it pretty straight forward.
@yungtomb9374
@yungtomb9374 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheFatNumptyright around 8:40
@musterseeds1778
@musterseeds1778 5 жыл бұрын
Nice tip, good for learning tip.....thank you.. well straight forward..
@ismaelmelendrez3747
@ismaelmelendrez3747 4 жыл бұрын
Good video but i've been taught at the nissan training center not to completely remove the battery terminal until the dmm is connected in series. This way you dont accidentally kill a intermmitent drain for example a relay
@rms5654
@rms5654 Жыл бұрын
Good idea!
@SteveRobReviews
@SteveRobReviews 9 жыл бұрын
Great tips - IR thermometer gun works good as well but not on small ma. draws.
@thrustprop67
@thrustprop67 Жыл бұрын
Very clear instructions a well done helpful clip thanks a million
@RJ6AV6
@RJ6AV6 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video it absolutely helped! 👍👍
@francanfix9149
@francanfix9149 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video,, easy and true.
@wikkedfun
@wikkedfun 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. That was excellent with an absolute minimum of idle chat and all of the details needed to do it right. And ditto to "urdu learner" the next step would be a useful followup video - yeah I realize every fuse leads down a different rabbit hole ... but maybe one of the simpler or most common ones?
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 6 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion. Thank you!
@crpth1
@crpth1 4 жыл бұрын
Arion Stone - Opinions may vary but based on personal experience. The most common cause for parasitic drain in the electrical system are: 1 - Botched work done on the vehicle, mostly associated with sound/media/entertainment. 2 - Wires and/or connectors damaged during interventions be it for normal maintenance or anything else. Bumping or pulling wires or connectors is a big no no, on ANY electrical system. 3 - Components failure. With in component failure a huge number is associated with dirt/corrosion. My 2 cents. ;-) Cheers
@AlexAndreiZAR
@AlexAndreiZAR 4 жыл бұрын
You should have connected red (+) voltmeter connector to ground (-) connector of vehicle and the black (-) voltmeter connector to the negative (-) connector of the battery to avoid getting a negative value reading like you show us. Also you mentioned about the door latch to be closed so that the car thinks it is closed and ECU's go to sleep, but you might need the trunk open as well (if you have a 3rd fuse panel which is in the trunk) and also you need to close the hood latches as well. Thanks and good luck!
@shimmeringreflection
@shimmeringreflection 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter if you connect them in reverse -- he knows the negative reading is actually positive. And he knows in this car it only has one fuse panel
@EM-cz4rd
@EM-cz4rd 6 ай бұрын
@@shimmeringreflection true but those of us with ADD won't have it LOL
@frankthornley4116
@frankthornley4116 5 жыл бұрын
very clear and well done. Thanks. Is there a follow up showing how to fix problems?
@csgtt
@csgtt 4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Thank you man! Really!
@RND-USA
@RND-USA 4 ай бұрын
This is such a great video but did you find out where the drain was coming from!? The suspense was killing me! 😂
@phongnguyen007
@phongnguyen007 7 жыл бұрын
great one, thank! from vietnam :D
@mrmustafanadaf7885
@mrmustafanadaf7885 4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@franklynpertuz7669
@franklynpertuz7669 Жыл бұрын
Great video great explanation thank you your tips are awesome very grateful that you sharing this with us
@raulelgrande5071
@raulelgrande5071 5 жыл бұрын
Very good video, question is where I can buy the battery shutoff switch? And cost?
@michelnguyen4819
@michelnguyen4819 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tip.
@alancall5113
@alancall5113 Жыл бұрын
great video bro explained so simple nice job
@kencohagen4967
@kencohagen4967 4 жыл бұрын
Always set your meter higher than you expect the current or voltage to be, then you can set it lower if needed. Unless you have an autoranging multi meter you could damage the meter if you set it to low.
@rectify2003
@rectify2003 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation Subscribed
@nickayivor8432
@nickayivor8432 2 жыл бұрын
Good Morning Justin Miller take care and have a great day Justin Miller Thanks 👍 Tutorial great 👍 👍 👌 👏 From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
@cayrick
@cayrick 2 ай бұрын
Great video thanks!
@StingrayLS7
@StingrayLS7 5 жыл бұрын
What do all the blue and pink things do the look like a relay of some kind 24 of them thanks ...
@MD-cd7em
@MD-cd7em 5 жыл бұрын
Good..clear.. video!
@armiaomidvar4687
@armiaomidvar4687 3 жыл бұрын
hi and thanks for the video it helped a lot , but quick question how do I fix it once I diagnosed the broken fuse? ( I'm not a mechanic btw, so pardon me if I sound ignorant)..
@alangranados7436
@alangranados7436 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your intuitive information I currently have a situation with my 2016 Ford Explorer it is having a parasitic draw on the PCM power relay I currently check fuses I pulled the 10 amp fuse that looks like the one in your video in the exact same position in the relay finally Powers down just curious if you would have any information on that situation thank you
@rickl6697
@rickl6697 7 жыл бұрын
Do the larger almost square fuses (the ones in the right front corner of the video thumbnail) to the right of the relays, also have contacts on top to read voltage to detect a voltage drop?
@crpth1
@crpth1 4 жыл бұрын
Rick L - No they don't have contacts on top. But if really needed, in most cases the top plastic cover can be pulled out. Which BTW I don't advise. ;-) Cheers
@AdrianJayeOnline
@AdrianJayeOnline 2 жыл бұрын
that pair of pliers is going to add a resistance, which will effect the readings, pliers are also coated so not going to get a good connection.
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
At the very most, the pliers will drop 1 millivolt. Your battery voltage can vary by an entire volt. Even brand new battery cables and multimeter leads will drop voltage. Because the current flow is low, the pliers will not have any measurable affect on your drain or your test results.
@vladimiramador8178
@vladimiramador8178 9 ай бұрын
thank you amazing explanation
@billfroelich628
@billfroelich628 2 жыл бұрын
You pulled the pigtail of the hood switch, now put one wire in both pigtail whole to trick the car to think the hood is closed. thanks bill
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. It depends on whether the switch is open or closed when the hood is open. In this case (and it is the same with most door jamb switches), a closed hood or closed door causes the switch to open. So, shorting the switch would make the ECU think the hood is open, when we want to cause the opposite to happen - to make it think that the hood is closed.
@ldm128168
@ldm128168 3 жыл бұрын
great video... I've been having a drain problem on my 2012 Camry. How do you keep from activating the car alarm each time you reconnect the battery? I finally disconnected the horns on my Camry to at least not have to listen to them. Is there a better way?
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
You can use a memory saver when you are disconnecting and the battery. I have a video showing how to do that. Just make sure you remove the memory saver once you have your meter connected (the meter reconnects the battery cable). If the memory saver is left in while you try to measure parasitic drain it will give you bad numbers and mislead you.
@192ali1
@192ali1 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your good and comprehensive video. If I may, have two questions to ask you about this video. 1) When you disconnect the negative battery terminal from car, then all electrical should not be functioning. Why should one be concern about the door of the car being closed? Once one of the terminals of the battery is disconnected then there should not be any current passing through wires. Am I correct? 2) Why did you connect the red terminal, the positive terminal of the volt meter to the disconnected ground terminal of the battery? Thank you
@lyleb4399
@lyleb4399 Жыл бұрын
As soon as you connect the multi-meter in series, you've re-established the circuit and things turn back on.
@nickayivor8432
@nickayivor8432 Жыл бұрын
PRODIGY Justin Miller My teacher Amazing what you know thank you very much for sharing what you know Take care and have a great day PRODIGY Justin Miller From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
@luthergarrett6389
@luthergarrett6389 Жыл бұрын
Justin, I don't think you can measure current across an un-blown fuse. it's the same as touching your two probes together. You "can" measure current across the fuse socket after you pull the fuse.
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive Жыл бұрын
We aren't measuring current across the fuses; we are measuring the voltage dropped across the fuse. If there is voltage being dropped, we can know that current is flowing through it.
@elaztecamoreno
@elaztecamoreno 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of leads are you using? Not the alligator clips but the actual leads on you dvom? Look different than the ones on my fluke.
@thephilosopher4719
@thephilosopher4719 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Justin Please help, I am facing a Parasitic Drain on my Elantra, i have 300 mA drain, i used a different technique of pulling fuses, and noticed that the "memory fuse" alone drain 100 mA, alone with some other AC fuses. I checked the items related to each fuse, and made sure all is turned off, but still drain available and it is too high! The funny part sometimes it drains and sometimes it doesn't, so sometimes when i turn on the car in the morning, it starts, and sometimes not, although i make sure everything turned off after switching the car off at night! What would you recommend me to do next?
@crpth1
@crpth1 4 жыл бұрын
Old question. But here it goes. Either the system is still live when you test it. Or probabilities point that, sometimes On, sometimes OFF, to a relay malfunction (stuck). It's worth mention that dirty contacts, particularly bad ground connection(s) don't help at all. ;-) Cheers
@tnamen1307
@tnamen1307 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice..my car 45 ah draw .05 amp on parasitic test when all doors are closed and everything is off. Is this too high since it drains very quickly in just 3 days only?????
@veridianmusic2084
@veridianmusic2084 3 жыл бұрын
Might be a bit late for this, but a draw of 0.05 amps is a 50 mA draw. 30 mA is considered excessive.
@thegrmcrckr488
@thegrmcrckr488 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, but I have a question about the voltage drop across the fuse. Wouldn't you want to check the fuse using a multimeter with the ground being on the neg cable and then touch each fuse instead of trying to get a voltage drop across the fuse? Aren't you just measuring the drop of voltage across the fuse and not the voltage drop across the circuit?
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive Жыл бұрын
We actually are trying to measure the voltage drop across the fuse only. The voltage dropped will be in proportion to the current flowing through the fuse. If zero volts are dropped across the fuse, there is no current passing through it.
@hillbillyb4u
@hillbillyb4u Жыл бұрын
If you’re measuring current or voltage through a good fuse, you have a poor electrical connection where the fuse plugs in. If you want to measure the actual current on an individual circuit, pull the fuse and hook up your leads like you did at the beginning in series with the load.
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Removing the fuse is also likely to reset any computers in the circuit and possibly make an intermittent drain go away. You can measure current indirectly by measuring voltage drop. This uses Ohm's law. It is the same principle as using a shunt resistor to measure current. It is very accurate and non-evasive.
@jasonmcfarlane7047
@jasonmcfarlane7047 2 жыл бұрын
Find your videos helpful keep them coming .😁
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement!
@wadajeep551
@wadajeep551 3 жыл бұрын
great video thanks
@timtravasos2742
@timtravasos2742 5 жыл бұрын
So what was the source of that drain?
@pauldesmond3269
@pauldesmond3269 4 жыл бұрын
wouldve been nice to know
@craftylilbastard
@craftylilbastard 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video! would it be possible that one of those jcase fuses is our culprit for parasitic draw or short, if so how do you test it? thanks again!
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 5 жыл бұрын
Of course the fuse itself cannot cause the drain, but if you are asking whether the drain could be passing through a j-case fuse, it is possible, but not likely. This is because the larger fuses typically are a "main" fuse that protects several "sub-circuits" that each have their own smaller fuse. For example, a 30 amp j-case fuse might feed three circuits that are each protected by 10-amp fuses. If there is a drain in one of these circuits, it would show up in the small fuse.
@craftylilbastard
@craftylilbastard 5 жыл бұрын
@@JustinMillerAutomotive yes that was what i meant. thanks so much!
@poisonduckee
@poisonduckee 4 жыл бұрын
What about if you don't have a second multimeter? Do you then just hook the battery back up before you start testing the fuses? Also, with your setup of the multimeter being in series, will that have any effect on the results of the fuse testing?
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right. You can reconnect the battery and then begin checking for voltage drop across the fuses. The multimeter in series will have no affect on current flow.
@poisonduckee
@poisonduckee 4 жыл бұрын
@@JustinMillerAutomotive Ok that's what I was thinking. However with the car I am testing there is an alarm that sounds when you reconnect the battery. But it doesn't sound when I have the multimeter in series. I get no reading on the meter. I dont expect you to diagnose through KZfaq comments but I am lost lol
@marionamewontwork2681
@marionamewontwork2681 5 жыл бұрын
Good video, I also just watched erics. Im actually going crazy with my truck. It can sit for 1-2 weeks and start fine but then the next day it has a dead battery. I have put in a new alternator and battery. Have also had it at 2 different garages. No one can figure it out. Im starting to lose my mind.
@4malulz104
@4malulz104 7 жыл бұрын
(1991 Chevy S10) Doing the amp draw test, I got a .84 amp draw. I pulled every single fuse, and no drop in amp draw. I then checked the charging system, it appears good, but was jumpy, so I disconnected all the leads to the alt, (possible bad diode) and I still got a .84 amp draw. Can a starter draw .84 amps and still be a working starter? My next guess is to check all the leads to the starter, and disconnect it to see if it's the culprit. The only lead I can't check is a fusable link running from the alt to the solenoid, by disconencting the cables at the starter, how do I check this link, resistance? And, how do I decide if it's the starter without taking the starter off the vehicle?
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. I have seen a starter cause this. It was actually a slight short across the solenoid terminals that was causing the drain. To find out, you would need to disconnect the wire from the "B" terminal on the starter motor (this is the large battery cable). However, you should disconnect the battery while doing this, or be VERY careful not to short the wire or your wrench to the ground.
@prestonrenify
@prestonrenify 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks battery cutoff switch is useful.
@amit6430
@amit6430 8 жыл бұрын
sir pls show any videos regarding automatic transmission
@sephiroth7470
@sephiroth7470 2 жыл бұрын
do you have to have the first multimeter connected to the battery terminal/cable to test the fuses?
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
No, you can remove the first meter, but you must reconnect the battery cable. If you happen to own two meters, it is just helpful to be able to see that the drain is still there while checking the fuses.
@sephiroth7470
@sephiroth7470 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustinMillerAutomotive oh okay thank you for clarifying, great video by the way. very helpful :)
@ptyptypty3
@ptyptypty3 3 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks Justin!!.. I"m wondering, what was the problem? What did that Fuse go to?.,.. thanks..
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
It was a fuse to the interior courtesy lights. I had created this issue intentionally to simulate a parasitic drain by leaving the door switch closed.
@DesiRoti
@DesiRoti 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, going to try to find out why my nissan qashqai is draining the battery through this method, but what do you do after you find a fuse that is draining the battery. do you change it, take out for good, how do you fix this problem, any thoughts?
@JustinMillerAutomotive
@JustinMillerAutomotive 4 жыл бұрын
Ideally, you would be able to find a wiring diagram that tells you what is connected to that fuse. Then, you can begin isolating components in that circuit one at a time. For example, if the radio and auxiliary outlet are both connected to the fuse that has high current flow, you could disconnect the radio and see if the drain goes away. If not, you can disconnect the auxiliary outlet. If neither makes the drain go away, then there is something else connected to the circuit. Sometimes it is an aftermarket device that someone has wired into the vehicle.
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