How to Install a DreamLine Shower Base With Oatey Drain

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3 жыл бұрын

This is how to install a DreamLine shower base with an Oatey drain video and is exactly what the title says it is. I'll go step by step on how to install this shower pan and include some of my tips for a leak-proof system you probably haven't seen yet.
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Additionally, I'll go through the Oatey 2" Shower Drain installation as well - I mean, it is part of the shower base install after all, but it's really hard to find information on this online so I thought I'd provide it for you.
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This whole process is actually quite simple:
1) dry fit the pan and level it with some wooden shims
2) mark on the studs the height of the tub around all 3 sides
3) remove pan and lay down some mortar
4) add pan back on and level it with your stud markings on the wall
5) set something heavy on it and let it sit several hours
6) watch the video for the in between details!
Thank you so much for watching. If you have any cool tips, tricks, or concerns, place them in the comments below and let us know how you install a shower base.
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@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

For Installing a BATHTUB base here's the video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNFyqNN_zJmtc3k.html

@joebinion1 Жыл бұрын

Great idea with the tape on the top off the pan,GOD BLESS

@minhtamducnguyen3070 3 жыл бұрын

I just finished installation of my 36 x 60 in DreamLine shower base. Thank you so very much! Your video is really helpful!

@timcallinan 3 жыл бұрын

Same - really thanks for this....Tim

@Growingwiser550 2 жыл бұрын

As a newb to plumbing and scanning youtube on how to install alcove shower pans i'm finding it interesting how no one actually shows how to connect the new drain to the existing plumbing. i would think this would be a pretty important instruction. everything else seems to be pretty common sense. not bashing the video just making an observation.

@AxelfoleyTheGreat Жыл бұрын

I noticed the same thing. Especially no videos showing how to connect one to a concrete slab. Or in my case connecting a offset drain to the existing piping on a concrete slab.

@sammynogo559 Жыл бұрын

That’s the trick you can’t give away the ingredients to the sauce. But I’m glad you said that cause I need to know I’m a newb in carpentry and I’m redoing my shower

@leyashnoscar7627 Жыл бұрын

I just said this as I'm watching the video. Saying you did a step but not showing it, really messes up the "how to" part of the video.

@GamechangerzB Жыл бұрын

Lol same no ones showing the drain install

@AxelfoleyTheGreat Жыл бұрын

@@GamechangerzB I figured it out on my own. Doing it on a concrete slab is more tedious but I got it done.

@kevinbrislawn5918 Жыл бұрын

I'm 71 and intuitive, but I'm impressed with how you explained this floor shower pan install. I'm in Arizona and my floor is actually slab cement.

@taylorschulz6522 2 жыл бұрын

Looks great! Not that my opinion matters but, I would suggest on your next project using the self tapping pan head screws to go at a 45° angle on the top lip of the pan, into the wood studs, and not through the fiberglass itself, which could cause the fiberglass to crack and water could leak into your walls.

@katewolff6770 2 жыл бұрын

the plastic and window flashing is a great idea! I'm renovating a bathroom that looks like it went in in the 70s, and honestly, the entire bathroom to this day is still REALLY solid, EXCEPT for water damage to the drywall and subfloors around the acrylic shower, so I will definitely be using these tricks when I replace them (especially since MY work is not going to be anywhere near as solid as the original builders... need all the extra help I can get)

@BrettGroneman 3 жыл бұрын

Seriously ... I've been looking on the KZfaqs for someone to show a demo of putting a mortar base under a shower for so long so I can see the consistency. This is actually my next step in my basement project -- hopefully this next week. I'm also using the Dreamline Slimline shower base and an Oatey drain. Thanks for the video. I bought 2 bags of the mortar, having no clue how much I actually need and not wanting to be too short and wishing I had more. I'm having challenges getting my inside-the-drain rubber gasket to fit... Also, the KZfaq algorithms showing me this video a day after you published it are kind of crazy... But I guess useful. Good video. Thanks for the walk-through.

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

Great timing since I just released the video yesterday! The rubber drain part does get tight for sure, especially if the drain is crooked or anything. A flathead can help work it around but be careful. Thanks for checking it out and good luck!

@Poor_Mans_DIY 3 жыл бұрын

Another great tutorial video! your channel is killing it! Keep it up!!

@jimfrazer5428 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome help. I wanted to leave a small space myself from the stud. It allows me to have the wall board meet the shower pan better so my finished wall will meet up nice to the pan. Thanks.

@ThePapijona 2 жыл бұрын

Really surprised me on the plastic protecting the subflooring!!🙌🏽🙌🏽 awesome stuff brother!

@hvacexplained9341 3 жыл бұрын

I like that plastic barrier trick. 👍

@ScottyLo Жыл бұрын

Just purchased a Slimline and I’m hoping it goes as smooth as your install. Thanks for sharing

@cheribachman1548 8 ай бұрын

Thank you. I'm installing this pan this weekend for my new shower 🚿... This video you posted about this install was an awesome help ...

@tonynguyen9887 2 жыл бұрын

Very good video. Help me get things done with my project. Thank you again from retiree.

@GerardoGarcia-lz6lu 2 жыл бұрын

Ty for all your advise I'm a first timer so I'm really nervous messing up. But ty 4 you're videos.

@robinstanley6880 3 жыл бұрын

My base came in a plastic bag and I can't seem to find the film to pull back like you instructed. This video helps me tremendously. Thanks.

@tsetendorjee9040 3 жыл бұрын

This is a very good TV show and we love it!

@joe800096 3 жыл бұрын

Great professional approach.

@walkintruth1 2 жыл бұрын

Nice vid, I was looking for someone who was doing an overkill 👍👍👍👍

@charliedillon6097 Жыл бұрын

Hey brother Thanks i do this for a living and the plastic at the front was a good idea. Tip for mixing put 1/2 of the water on the bottom before adding the mortar .. just helps with mixing all and all great job

@charliejohnston1978 Жыл бұрын

you mean add 1/2 of the water for a 1/2 bucket of mortor, = 1/4 of the water into the bottom of the bucket before adding the mortor mix,

@LonghornWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍 install man. Always over do it, it’s the right thing to do and save you time innthe long run.

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

For sure. I once heard someone say they build things to withstand an elephant so I try to implement that too lol

@frankv.2681 3 жыл бұрын

Good video. I'm going to Redguard the subflooring before laying the mortar & pan.

@Z-Ack 2 жыл бұрын

Good idea.. i think im also going to use some rubber roofng tape also just around the bottom edges.. the way the girls throw water everywhere i figure thatd ease my mind a bit more.. now i gotta figure out how to insulate/ water proof the walls . Took off the old surround and had 0 insulation and the vinyl siding of the house was the only thing between the shower walls and the outdoors.. wasp nests and bugs all up in there..

@scottroelker7617 9 ай бұрын

spray foam @@Z-Ack

@ericcortenbach2856 3 жыл бұрын

Same here nice trick... This video has helped me a great deal thank you for it.

@smokejumper7045 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing mortar base i ripped out an old tile shower and installing a shower unit like yours, the walls and floor of this old house are not square so i have alot of tweeking, i didnt want to use shims like the instructions say. And i didnt want to use the floor leveling water stuff and build a dam and all that. So this was a quick easy solution. One issue if you set base and push to far you have to pull back up and repile the mortar so be careful when leveling.

@zachcoleman6285 3 жыл бұрын

You're right not to use shims I did and the mortar didn't set properly in the area

@joshstimpson4216 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video! Thank you for this!

@TheWriter86 2 жыл бұрын

Man, sweet explanation! Thanks man!

@edwardjohn1614 10 ай бұрын

You know I always wondered what that little hole in my caulking gun was for. And here I thought I knew everything. Oh and that thing you're calling a fiber gasket is what plumbers call a "friction ring". It allows the nut to spin and tighten...👍

@richiesun9676 3 жыл бұрын

Dude great video and pacing. Thanks.

@leeesmith4291 3 жыл бұрын

You did a great job

@deeznutzz8375 3 жыл бұрын

I never knew what you cut the tip and ram the tube with the caulking gun. 😂😂

@cuarajhyrojayju4397 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for explaining with details , I ended up paying a plumber for this part he broke my shower pan with the screws and it was not leveled

@counterbalancelife4305 Жыл бұрын

Good tips. Thank you for a great video.

@christophercozza1541 2 жыл бұрын

great video.you do nice work👍

@crazydupdup9735 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, did you do a video where you install the ciment walls and céramic?

@nelsitodel7244 3 жыл бұрын

Este es el video mas facil de entender ya que yo soy un principiante, felicidades muy buena explicación y exitos Gracias

@bumpkinfishman1196 2 жыл бұрын

putty is oil based which is not recommended for polymer based surfaces. so in this case, silicone is a better choice.

@korey7887 3 жыл бұрын

Good video. Explain very good!

@genebridges1711 2 жыл бұрын

good job young man!

@johnnyelectric4844 3 жыл бұрын

Your great ! thank youuuuuuu ! I have to tell you I am 60 and have squeezed out a heck of a lot of caulk like hundreds of hundreds of tubes .. Never have I realized or been shown the tip cutter on the caulk gun , I went right away to see if mine had that hole,, It does

@benr6918 3 жыл бұрын

Haha I did the same thing! Although I’m not 60 I do a lot of caulking. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been on the top of the ladder needed a new tube and then realized I left my knife ground level.... Now it doesn’t matter!

@CDAWWGG43 3 жыл бұрын

Try out the Ryobi caulking gun. Save those old hands some grief! Even has a tube cutter on the side!

@MarkNOTW 3 жыл бұрын

Same here

@derekw40 3 жыл бұрын

What the ?!?!?

@aandmservices2518 2 жыл бұрын

Old dog New tricks....

@joeramirez8683 3 жыл бұрын

thank you so much for your time.

@neildesposito1492 10 ай бұрын

Great video

@jdowdone 2 ай бұрын

The added poly across the front is a good idea. However, I recommend 6-mil. The 2-mil that you appeared can easily become damaged. Thank you for the video.

@lowpet06 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid many thanks

@lillithjones993 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your video you have some good waterproofing ideas! I was talking to the Carpenter who is going to frame in my shower base it’s going to be DreamLine SlimLine 48 in. W x 34 in. D Single Threshold Center Drain Shower Base. I told him about the 1/8th inch gap between the studs and the base. He said he thought it would cause the base to crack. I don’t know what to do now because I’m getting two different messages here and I want to do the right thing. How has your base held up so far?

@michaelgreenfest 2 жыл бұрын

I can not find out at what height I should cut the drain pipe so the drain connection will work. from your or any other videos. about cutting drain height. Maybe you could include that information I find that to be an important point. If you can forward your method I would appreciate it. Good video

@abdal-haqq1688 10 ай бұрын

That's a protective shrink wrap that you will usually find on most fiberglass/plastic shower assemblies and tubs. I usually leave it on until the project is completed. It protects from accidental scratches, dropped screws, paint, mud or anything you may drop on the pan.

@henrryrodriguez5011 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job you the best

@TheDrumhead54 9 ай бұрын

This is encouraging! Do you have video on the walls insulation? Also what if your bathroom has a window?

@Tomcoker1952 3 жыл бұрын

I am completing my floor joist install this weekend, then the sub floor.My pan arrives next Wednesday, question is, what time can you be at my house for the install ? Lol. Great video, I hope mine goes as well as yours.

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

Lol I hope it goes well and this video helps. Good luck

@skeetorkiftwon 2 жыл бұрын

@@KellyConcepts You completely neglected to explain the ptrap install and how high the downpipe had to be above the subfloor. Went so far as to cover the pipe with a rag (to prevent getting mortar in the drain obv) then did a jump cut pulling the rag out at 7:18 so newbs wouldnt ever know what to do...

@chriscurtis5585 2 жыл бұрын

my waste pipe is a little short. when you said you can use caulk what would i do put caulk in and leave out the rubber seal. or would i use both.

@MrBobbysmithinhouser 3 жыл бұрын

Your fiber gasket goes over the rubber so it doesn't buckle the rubber gasket when tightening up

@johnchappell8615 21 күн бұрын

Your mortar is a bit thick. It helps that you used an impermeable membrane under it but that’s not likely enough to keep it from crumbling once dry. This is a common error that has come up during the many “re”installs I’ve done. Mortar should be of a slightly thin peanut butter, it should slide out of the bucket under its own weight. Not run out but just slide out. I don’t bother with plastic under the mortar but I do wet the subfloor slightly if it’s wood. Otherwise, your tutorial looks pretty on point. Nice work!

@minhtamducnguyen3070 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Kelly Concepts! Does the drain go with the base or is bought separately? Thank you for your time to answer!

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

Hi there! It is bought separately. Around $9-$11 for me on Amazon. It's a 2" Oatey - link in my description. Thanks for watching!

@jamesruppert3152 3 жыл бұрын

These are better than tile floors as grout will eventually go bad and be a huge headache

@baptiste19699691 2 жыл бұрын

Should you have the contractor replace everything that's concrete border or just having replaced the bottom half and build the shower over the entire thing so it'll be stronger

@robertlane8209 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. How do you maintain the 1/8 inch gap from studs while screwing in the flange around the tub?

@TheDeanosaurus 2 жыл бұрын

Could throw a shim between the flange and each stud. Someone else mentioned here though that it would be better to use a different type of mortar and no screws instead.

@wordzmyth 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDeanosaurus was just going to comment this. Seeing the screws go in felt harsh for a new unit

@tuncomaclobio4376 2 жыл бұрын

Gracias por el video

@wheathavester6562 2 жыл бұрын

If I install a shower pan in an RV, do I have to put mortar under the pan?

@XXXBUTLER 2 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍🏼

@baptiste19699691 2 жыл бұрын

Is it necessary to remove all concrete border? Can you just leave the top and just replace the bottom?

@brentglover9260 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man! I have a similar base. I measured 4 1\4 for the cap.and 3 1\\4 opening. Was this your measurement? I'm having a hard time trying g to.locate these measurements. Also, I appreciated your video here. It was informative. Oh, I'll be tiling the walls as.well. The skinny flange will not line up with the board. Did you shim the tub or walls to make it transition well to have the board sit on the tub?

@tom95521 2 жыл бұрын

I would use a large pair of needle nose pliers with the metal tool to tighten and compress the rubber grommet instead of just a screwdriver.

@anthonyraffaele1041 2 жыл бұрын

Good Job . . . if I can add my 3 cents ' ' '' I bought a one piece 36" x 36" and pushed it into place ..done.. I been a contractor for (5) minutes of my life and now I can retire ( true story) i dont intend to hurt any ones feelings or good efforts ... its just they way I do things . .

@Jason-cw5jj Ай бұрын

Hes trying to burn his drill out mixing mud with it😂😂

@azmendozafamily 3 жыл бұрын

Good job putting a rag in the pipe when tightening the drain down. That tool can fall in so easily

@markbrouhard8182 2 жыл бұрын

If the tool isn't stainless, a tape measure with a strong magnetic tip can be sent down after it (but I agree that it's definitely better to be proactive than reactive..stuff that rag in & keep on truckin!)

@bactran3714 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Kelly. Thanks for your wonderful video. I have questions for you. 1. Looks like you don't put the mortar that covers the whole base, just smaller area, why is that? 2. The shims you put in the front under the base, are you leaving them there and caulking over them? Also, the gap from the floor to the base (= the thickness of the shims), which is not small. I don't see mortar put right in the gap, so will you feel the base unstable at that area? 3. The gap is not small, how do you caulk the front? Just enough to cover the gap? 4. What kind of plastic sheet did you use, from Home Depot? Thanks for your time.

@debbiemarshman1398 5 ай бұрын

Hi. Dreamline says not to screw the slimline to the studs. Thoughts?

@edwinjiguan7946 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome

@jxtdenco6984 2 жыл бұрын

Am I correct in assuming that you have to demo the tub/old tile walls down to the studs and subfloor before you can accurately measure for the size of the pan you will need?

@ranger178 Жыл бұрын

yes it goes up to the stud walls then walls go over it

@davidscott7218 4 ай бұрын

Did you put enough mortar down to meet the base. Was your layer of mortar around an inch thick

@mram7715 2 жыл бұрын

How is the Airbnb doing? I have one with two showers I’m preparing to tackle. I was going to do with mortar pan but after doing some research, fiberglass pans seem to be the way to go with Airbnb’s. I guess it’s easier to maintain. Any advice would be great. Thanks and great job.

@KellyConcepts 2 жыл бұрын

The AirBnb was going great but I ended up selling this one because I got an offer I couldn't pass up. I had the same thought process as you, mortar seems more elegant but all of the grout lines will make it a pain to clean. My new Lakeside Bnb has a mortar pan shower and a fiberglass shower, the fiberglass is much more convenient and cheaper.

@abro9598 3 жыл бұрын

Just received my Dreamline shower base. My installation intructions make no mention of drilling and attaching to the studs as you show. Is this something you do for added security? To me, once the wallboard is attached this thing isnt going anywhere! Thanks for sharing!

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

I've seen it done 3 ways - screwed in the flange directly, screwed above the flange so just the head catches the flange, and no screws at all. My preference is to screw it into the flange. I just installed a dreamline door where the instructions show to screw into the acrylic threshold - so by their own standard, it's ok to put screws in this. At least, that's my take...

@djwinston99 5 ай бұрын

Good video and thanks! -- question though: the Dreamline shower pan instructions say nothing about drilling holes and attaching to studs. Curious why you felt this was necessary (btw, I've seen a number of videos with installers doing this although the manufacturer instructions do not specify it).

@chaselindsey1041 3 жыл бұрын

Is it OK to place the mortar directly onto the sub-floor or plywood?

@mbeastice22 3 жыл бұрын

You should probably seal the wood first to protect the integrity of the wood since alot of water will seep out of that mortar while drying. Great video though. I always over do my projects and make them indestructible haha.

@jennifernair9773 3 жыл бұрын

I have a question how does it work with shower liners if I am installing a tiled shower upstairs with a plastic pan do I need a liner also installed? Thank You!

@JayRossTVision 2 жыл бұрын

Doing same job, what did you have to do?

@BeeMusic2024 3 жыл бұрын

10:41 relatable

@himCTS 2 жыл бұрын

But I'm using your videos a tutorial to help me install a shower pan fiberglass that is I'm used to making them

@larrypdx8939 3 жыл бұрын

There must be some 2" to 1 1/2" reducer under the house somewhere? Can you tell about that? Many thanks.

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

Every plumber will tell you to NEVER put a reducer... but if you were to put one, make sure it's on a vertical line, not horizontal. I placed one here because I didn't think to fix it correctly when I ripped open the subfloor and didn't want to have to re-do my floor work. I have access underneath if problems arrive. I also just finished the 2nd bathroom in this house and plumbed it up the correct way - converting all the pipe to 2" all the way to the main line a few feet away.

@indistinctchatter6677 2 жыл бұрын

I've read the Dreamline installation instructions and I did not see how high above the floor the 2" pipe should be. Also did you use 1/2 of a 60 lb mortar bag? I'm not sure how much to use. Great video. Big help.

@ninganpgh 3 жыл бұрын

According to the instruction of Dreamline, you shouldn’t put any screw on the base lip into the studs. But I have been doing it for all my past shower projects and just watched you screwing the base flange into the studs😅. Any thought about “no screws” instruction from Dreamline? You did a great job and a fantastic video!!!

@ninganpgh 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone has some thoughts why Streamline doesn’t want its shower pan screwed into the studs ?

@dougpoffinbarger6880 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a rookie at drain pans, but it seems that mortar, drain pipe and the surround would be sufficient to lock in the drain pan from moving? But without those or big gaps between the pan and studs, I would consider siliconed screws and like the flashing idea. I especially like the extra plastic under the curb.

@Wrist_bezel 3 жыл бұрын

I installed one couple months back , instructions specified NOT to screw into the flange and to only use mortar , I was confused and called them and they told me the exact same thing . I’m sure screwing it down is not a bad thing but as per their instructions it does not require it and in fact they say NOT to very clearly , maybe to avoid it from cracking when being drilled into

@ranger178 Жыл бұрын

i suspect the movement between shower and walls could crack it where the screw holes are that is why they don't recommend it

@denveroilers9458 Жыл бұрын

Use a plastic clip that goes over the sides of the flange and then you screw the upper clip into the stud so there is no hole in the flange.

@lenpeck1 3 жыл бұрын

Will 60x30 dreamline shower pan fit my 58x28 bathtub already have in my master bathroom

@ManuelHernandez-sy1tr 3 жыл бұрын

yes

@kchilz32 Жыл бұрын

For those that have tight walls don’t over tighten the screws if you don’t have much gap that should make up for it

@TimCBuilders 3 ай бұрын

Did you ever get a full joist in there? It looked like a scrap

@PrettyPoisonousChick 3 жыл бұрын

In all the videos Ive watched, no one shows if you have to use glue when attaching the drain piece to the pipe, they just show the gasket being tighten down. Also how do you take the whole drain apart, I brought one and can’t take off the top metal part

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

The metal screen part is difficult to pop off because there's not much room to get a flathead under it. I have to get my fingernails under it

@freddie966woo 3 жыл бұрын

Do u just connect the drain to 2 inch abs with abs glue or just plug and play?

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

There's no need for glue with this, the rubber gasket does all the work on the drain

@larrytrevino7119 3 жыл бұрын

2 questions? Where do I order that shower pan? And isn't your subflooring suppose to have underlayment before you install mortar bed? TIA

@swaggsteez1 2 жыл бұрын

didnt think mortar directly on wood floor was a good idea. Maybe tar paper and metal lathe ???

@charliejohnston1978 Жыл бұрын

Yes, do not ever use USB particle board crap for the subflooring sheet material.

@ryanfleming3091 28 күн бұрын

Where does the plastic sheet "skirt" go in the stack up of the floor? Between the plywood and lower thinset? Between the lower thinset and uncoupling membrane? Between the uncoupling membrane and upper thinset? Between lower thinset and uncoupling membrane would make the most sense to me because though the plastic would prevent the bond between the thinset and membrane, the neighboring thinset and membrane would be bonded, so they'd still essentially still be coupled.

@g00thier 3 жыл бұрын

My subfloor is concrete, it's a concrete joist system in my house. Would the sand/cement mixture work in my situtation as well?

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

It will, but you'll need a primer to adhere the mortar to the concrete. These bonding primers are usually in the tile section of hardware stores. You'll need very little for 1 shower

@g00thier 3 жыл бұрын

@@KellyConcepts thank you!

@danthedewman1 3 жыл бұрын

why not install your vinyl flooring under pan before you install it

@haroldwestrich3312 3 жыл бұрын

Gave you a like but I wonder why you said you left a 1/8" space so the base could flex but then you screwed it to the studs with stainless screws. Whats up with that?

@joejr9653 3 жыл бұрын

I presume you used silicone in lieu of the plumbers putty on the drain? I use clear silicone on installs if not using plumbers putty. What you used looked like caulk. If I don't use that rubber gasket on the drain pipe I will pack oakum around pipe and pour a lead joint. When attaching the pan to the studs I use roofing nails.

@shawnsulehria6227 3 жыл бұрын

I agree Joe. Depending on the manufacture of the pan you wouldn't use plumber putty since it could retract with the pan. I used 100% Silicone as recommended by delta shower pans. The bottomline read the pan installation instructions.

@Francoxyzm 2 жыл бұрын

Can you explain what you are doing at 8:10

@azmendozafamily 3 жыл бұрын

I'd recommend using silicone to seal under the drain body

@edwardlee7491 3 жыл бұрын

Not a good idea to use silicone because in the future if you have to ever have to remove the strainer good luck

@joshuarobison3295 3 жыл бұрын

I dunno guys why not just use plumbers putty?

@MrDnm2000 2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuarobison3295 some shower tray manufactures tell you not to use plumbers putty because it will degrade the material of the shower tray over time.

@anthonygervolino7662 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrDnm2000 mine says dont use putty ... use latex/acrylic sealant... what is that?

@ralphterrell7278 3 жыл бұрын

why does the rubber gasket go around the drain pipe and not inside like a toilet flange? It seems like that would prevent leaking into my downstairs when the rubber goes bad.

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you and I don't know why, but they just don't make the gaskets like that. I'd guess because you cant get the seal very tight that way so if it backed up, the water could go under the gasket and out. A toilet has a ptrap above that gasket so there's less worry there.

@rreg100 3 жыл бұрын

When you leave 1/8 inch space on 3 sides, do you drive the screws home or do you tighten them enough to maintain the 1/8 inch?

@crich1218 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like he left a gap but hard to tell. Closing that gap with a screw could crack the pan. Personally I like to take up the space with a shim and drill through into the stud.

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

I keep the 1/8 gap and don't tighten the screws all the way. I should've clarified!

@InquiryTeaching 3 жыл бұрын

Try placing some 1/8 inch plastic wood / board all the way around. It helps provide the perfect space, is completely waterproof and maintains the gap after tightening screws. Good call on stainless screws

@margarettodd682 3 жыл бұрын

your music is so trippy

@theeabster1983 3 жыл бұрын

I'm putting in the same shower base my concern is when I mix the mortar after dry fitting the shower base & marking my level lines on the studs when putting the shower base back down I would not be able to get all the mortar out from between the little round feet and the floor which will not allow me to get all the way back down to my level lines I initially marked from dry fitting it. I have done construction for many years from the age of 17 to 35 I am 50 now and done several bathrooms but we never used mortar to lock a shower stall in place. so it's something new to me what does the mortar do? I mean you're locking the shower stall in place by screwing it to the walls and if you have it level all the way around it shouldn't flex. should I try to Mark the feet somehow with something then dry fit it to transfer the marks to the floor? he showers tub on the floor? is the mortar a must? and if so how much mortar to mix? ⅛ inch? ¼ inch? or ½ inch deep? thank you for your time

@KellyConcepts 3 жыл бұрын

Hi there! Think of the mortar base as luxury. It is not 100% needed so no matter what you do, you'll be ok with the results. I actually spoke with a contractor on this recently and he has done a hundred shower pans and just sprays the window foam insulation and sets the pan on top of that However, mortar does help hold the pan in place, keeps it level, and prevents a lot of squeaking that will occur without it. The idea is to get about an inch of mortar on the entire floor and a little less around the drain hole. Then in the areas that you know need to be raised (unless you have a perfectly flat floor), you will want to add a little bit more mortar to that side. Once you set the pan on the mortar, you should be level or above your pencil reference lines on the studs. Then tap on the sides that need to be lowered into the mortar until it becomes all level - then let it sit until dry. The shower pan is very hollow underneath, most of the mortar will just go and fill the voids as you push down the pan.

@toms5094 2 жыл бұрын

Saw a video where they recommended not putting the mortar under the round feet. Just in between.

@paultanner3888 2 жыл бұрын

@@toms5094 But how can you do that if there's feet all over the thing?

@pizzanpepsi Жыл бұрын

@@toms5094 Yea but this would seem to be a REAL pain!

@charliejohnston1978 Жыл бұрын

The pan was never designed to stand on the floor without the mortor mix under it, it is to flimsy for that to not have mortor under the pan.

@johnathanbusse4679 3 жыл бұрын

Use plumbers putty under the drain flange. Using the caulk/silicone makes it incredibly hard if you ever have to take it apart.

@grovesville 3 жыл бұрын

Plumbers putty gets old and cracks marine silicone will last almost forever.

@ManuelHernandez-sy1tr 3 жыл бұрын

plumbers putty stains acrylic

@davidnolen9537 2 жыл бұрын

Depending on what was used. You can use a hair dryer to soften up the silicone and remove the drain. Done it several times repairing hot tubs

@wordzmyth 2 жыл бұрын

Hair driers/ heat guns are good for so many things, shrinking electrical shrink wrap, drying a damp charger port on a mobile phone, amd just the other day I was told that for swelling particle board you can dry it with a heat gun, sand and reseal it with your sealant to repair. Especially useful for swelling in kitchens and bathrooms where water is just starting to leak.

@Deleon-gu2qb Жыл бұрын

@@davidnolen9537 Some of this shower pans do NOT recommend using plumbers putty. They want you to use silicone.

@chrisriley8749 2 жыл бұрын

I have watched a couple of these videos now, and I am curious about the mortar base. It seems like you just put it down and then set the base on it, doesn't more leveling need to take place? Is the mortar self leveling when you set the base down?

@KellyConcepts 2 жыл бұрын

A little more leveling does need to happen but it is very minimal as the pan will press into the mortar pretty nicely. You want to avoid putting a ton of pressure or jumping around in the base with wet mortar or you'll press into it too much and when the mortar dries and ultimately shrinks (the more wet the mortar, the more it'll shrink) , it won't have as strong of a hold on your base as preferred.

@chrisriley8749 2 жыл бұрын

@@KellyConcepts awesome, thank you!

@chrisriley8749 2 жыл бұрын

@Kelly Concepts I bought a bag of rapid set mortar, it sounds like it should buy thinset mortar for tile with a modifier?