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Welcome anytime steve 👍💯🧱

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Thanks Claire was a pleasure working for you and Bob . Hope you enjoy the patio. Appreciate the feedback. Justin 👍💯

Yea its definitely not the best look is it .we use a pattern we work from to avoid cross joints David .Appreciate the comments mate 👍

Dont no about masters but yes a break from Southfork🤣🤣🤣

Hi Lee Hooe you are well mate good points there mate thanks .we can only by the one type of flowpoint here nobody sells it mate ill have to look more in to it good points mate thanks Justin 👍💯

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping Will using the flowpoint soon oh forgot to say a ended up with a box 48 a think of Cadbury’s cream eggs. Boy Brad would diced through them in no time lol must say there ain’t much left once the kettle is on got have a few 😆😆😆

@@lmilne4859 good luck with the flowpoint then. Brad eat all mine and i dont think his kids got a chance with there easter eggs i no he will eat them 🤣🤣🤣😉

Thanks reesy 👍

Yet again agree on all you say John Have a great weekend yourself 🤣🤣💯👍

Thanks Bob for the comment and thanks for the tips so simple but never thought numbers for the slabs i like it mate and blue tac ill remember that one . Take it easy mate Justin 👍🧱

Just don’t go past 5 or the labourer is fucked👍🏻😆😆😆

Great work guys it's good to see craftsmen who are proud of what they do, keep pausing it to try a work out the pattern.

Vianka when ever you comment i always picture your beautiful country. Your welcome and i always appreciate your comments. Justin 👍

Apprentice the comments thanks Ryan

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Mr Patel Hope your well and thank you 👍

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🤣🤣 great 🤣🤣 Appreciate the comments paul and Dan and good luck to you both Justin 👍

Thanks kevin appreciate it as always mate 👍💯🧱

Thanks and good luck 👍

​@@brickrightbuildinglandscapingCheers! What gradient did you lay these to? Google has 2 answers, 1 in 80 and 1 in 60. I'm going to 150 under DPC, no. channel against the house.

@dmak2 as long as thr bubble on the level is on the line thats usually an adequate fall 👍

Steve they are the same slabs just one is smooth and the other not other than that they are the same .i wouldn't charge more labour to lay smooth myself .as for painting the back of the slab i would just you the paving slurry for bonding . Thanks my opinion on it mate Justin 👍

Thanks giles. Yes perfect for cobbles but just read the joint thickness etc just make sure your joints are ok you down load technical info on line for flowpoint 👍

Basically the channel drainage to its bottom of the channel is approx 150mm lower the dpc.By using the channel you your are keeping any water lower than the raised height of the paving. Don't forget the fall here is running away from the house so not into the drainage but any water blown back to the house will go in the channel so its protecting the dpc .Hope that helps JC. Justin 👍

Good idea, well explained. Thanks

Yes it is andy the slabs with work loose otherwise 👍

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping Good deal. The products you use in the UK aren't available in the States. I guess I can substitute another material.

@andysparks7381 it's a bonding agent to bond the back of the slab to the cement that's all it is andy . Hope that helps good luck .you could use sbr mixed with cement if you have that in the USA 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿👍

Ok mate what is your name ? Yes its the best stuff ive used beats any of the brush in products.👍

My name is Pete. I don’t do much paving these days I use to do it a lot. I think I’ll give it a go next time I’m paving 😁👍🏻

Hi Pete. Yes it breaks things up from bricklaying all the time mate. Good luck Justin 👍

His Christopher Yes ive done many steps with them just cut them to fit your size . There are videos just done one with indian stone its on the playlist called fooded masterpiece the steps we built 👍👌🧱

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping legend thanks 👌

Morning Joe. So here is what we do . Yes can flow point the riser with the same product as the main patio. Flowpoint the patio get that done and completed first.Come back to the risers just mix up the flow in say a bucket but dont use it straight away let it start to set in the bucket. When its set enough for you to wear gloves and with your hands push it into the risers filling the joints has to be at the ideal set time to work it into the joints. Then its the same process of washing the steps down at the right time Good luck joe hope thats of help to you any issue give me a ring if you like Justin 👍

Thanks peter No we didn't mate 👍

Its a bit of work charles and each stage has to be spot on .It can be done take each stage at a time .Bubble should be just passed the line . Good luck.👍

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping thanks for your reply! Do you have a starter video I can go to to see how it's done? Or any pointers? I suppose my biggest question is how do you get the right amount of bed/muck down?

@Charles Milligan Loads of videos on the channel charles go on the playlist for patios. Bed needs to be between 30 and 50 mm .👍

Shame that never mind .move to cardiff ill squeeze u in 🤣🤣👍👊

Hi 1983 Mad year that just after the Falklands war anyway. If its a sand and cement mix i would mix up 3 parts sand 1 part cement into a semi dry mix. On a dry day but not hot hot like we have had .Also on a dry patio dry joint but if the joint is damp its ok .push the cement into the joint with a bricklayers jointing bar and the bar along the top to shape the joint. Hope that helps you out good 83. Justin 👍

Yes it's got a slight fall on it 👍

Well you can do that and yes it wouldn't do it any harm. We don't do it but i can see a benefit to it

I never seal it sorry due to alot of suppliers recommending its not sealed so cant help with that one sorry 👍

Hi Joseph A leaf blower on the flow point you mean is it ? Justin 👍

Hi Jo Minimum depth is 20 mm if i remember rightly mate. Never seen where one bag has stopped and another started no issue there but each time you mix it the correct water has to be used . Try the link for technical data Justin 👍 linksharing.samsungcloud.com/o5AE5sv08V6M

Hi beamer If no cracks a visible and you can create the right falls for drainage the base is perfect for laying slabs on. Sbr the base first you can buy at the merchants follow the instructions it seals and helps with bending. I use 4 parts sharp sand 1 part cement with a plastizer for workability. Hope that helps . Good luck Justin 👍

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping thanks for reply

can you let me know roughly how much sharp sand i would need to cover a 16m2 area, laying on top of the concrete base. thanks

@@therealbeamer9189 Based on a 30mm bed you would need approx 1 tone

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping Thanks again for your help&advice.

Thanks for the comments appreciate it . All i can say is ive used the sika products and i find them rubbish. Flow point is in my opinion far better just my opinion. 👍

Sika only lasts for a few years max, flowpoint lasts 10xs that, I joint everything with it now it’s bomb proof, yes it’s harder and messy to put in but you can have the confidence that you’re never going to get a call back because the joint failed or they jetwashed the joint out. Charcoal smooth looks great and I’ve just used a flowpoint fine grade that looks even better

@@richwallwin Totally agree Richard. I used to use the sika stuff i personally found it didn't last and some tubs were better than others. Each to there own 👍

@@richwallwin you say the sika product only lasts a few years?? Ive never been called back to a job to repoint and i did my own patio with it over 5 years ago and its still sat there fine.....you claim flow point lasts 10x longer that would mean 20years??? Has it been out that long?? And have you used it and gone back and checked it from 20 years ago? You must excuse my ignorance I don't know how long its been on the market for.

@@TheTraditionalGolfer flowpoint has been out 25 years and they’ve done a key study on a project in Norway where they’ve been back 10 years later and it still there rock solid. So if it can survive in their extreme cold winters it’s got to be one of the leading products about. Im sure there’s a lad on KZfaq that went back years later to one he’s done I think it’s brock landscaping or something along them lines forgive me if I’ve got it wrong. It’s used on so many comical projects all over the world so just imagine the amount of hammer it takes from vehicles and foot traffic, would a pre mixed resin resists that? It’s also cheaper than sika. Obviously I don’t know your practices and everyone’s got their way of working if you look after your patio then ye probably will last but 99% of customers never do any maintenance. I’ve used pre mixed resins, 2 part resins, traditional mortar and flowpoint, out of all of those flowpoint beats them all by a mile, I wish I’d known about it 10 years ago but it’s never really been pushed advertisement wise on us “small businesses” and my local builders merchants have only just started stocking primer so they’re way way behind the curve.

Hi Daniel Hope your well.Cross joints are just nasty on the eye so with planning and correct laying they should be avoided. In my opinion it looks awful and its lazy laying and planning. I think the patio without any cross joints looks better looks right and more professional but thats just my own opinion. Brandstone who supplied our paving gave us a laying pattern with a cross joint in the middle of the patio i threw it in the bin to me it would of looked awful. All opinions and each to there own Daniel Justin 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping you're bang on the money. Doesn't look good on the eye. Keep up the great work, you boys are a joy to watch 😀👍🏼

@@danprice1016 Thanks Daniel take it easy mate👍🙂

I asked the builders merchant for the the laying plan, I’ll have to check who the supplier was? It has straight joint at about 3m intervals and they span 1.850m approx, these short of joints don’t look to bad so far, I wouldn’t want them to be any longer but am concerned if I don’t follow the plan I’ll end up running out of the right size slabs. My project packs don’t have “thing” slabs, just 1/4, halves, squares and large rectangles. Four types

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Hi Andrew The flowpoint is cement based is my understand is yes the base would need to be permeable. Thanks for the comments 👍💯

surely no cement base pointing is permeable only resin coated sand types are ? if you lay on a solid bed how can that be permeable ??@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping

Thomas im sorry to say the dab laying method isn't good practice. Its never going to last .Id say take it all up and re use the slabs.lay on full beds of 4 parts sharp sand to 1 cement. Use paving slurry painted on the back of each unit for bonding. Then grout it with flowpoint or marshalls exterior jointing compound. In my opinion those methods are the best for sand stone. Obviously make sure the base is sufficient and well compacted .Tick all the drainage requirements aswell. Hope that helps and good luck. Justin 👍

😀😀😀 i wouldn't get a job any tv Show would i 😀😀

Hi Paul No its a product called Flowpoint look it up it you mix it straight out of a bag . Falls were about 15mm per meter Justin

Id try and stop the water coming on to the patio area first off . If not the aco drains need to drain into ie gully or soakaway depending on the site area . If draining into an existing drain id recommend checking first with your local council if its acceptable.

No Marshalls recommend not sealing it .We just dont do it Mark

No idea been thinking the same myself 👍

Alright Allan 🤣🤣 had to get it cut i couldn't see through it mate 🤣🤣 flowpoint is a out £20 a bag and i did about 20m2 with 3 and a half bags but i recess my joint a bit. The knee pads a brilliant mate internet buy ill have to try and look back where i got em from my other knee pads a nailers they are good to. Thanks for the comments mate always appreciate it 🤣🤣👍💯🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Never used thr nexus but its an epoxy grout isnt it .if it was me for indian sandstone id use flowpoint 👍

We follow a laying pattern direct from marshalls which works well in my opinion. Your entitled to yours 👍👊

Thanks Ray and yea medium 🤣🤣💯👍

Thanks very much. Yes we always use 4 parts sharp sand and 1 part cement 👍👌👌

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping I meant how much did you use for the whole patio?

@House Fairy Oh 🤣🤣 so sorry no i cant remember that . Sorry 👍

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping Ok, don't worry. Probably a ton of sand at least though! :)

@House Fairy id say more like 2 to 3 tonne

Hi they do recommend 1:60 for a fall .A lot of professional pavers use 10/15mm evey 1m long .we tend to use the spirit level and get the bubble on the line .Hope that helps and good luck 👍

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping hi guys, so yous put block work all the way round so you could level it off easier is that right? It's a good idea never thought of that, cracking job as well lads 👍

@@peterash9524 Hi peter Yes your right there but also to keek the patio independent from the fence so any replacement or maintenance had no impact on the patio or vice versa. Appreciate the comments mate 👍

I’m laying golden fossil 45m2 at moment in stages when I have time, quite a few slabs are quite rough so I’m using a 10mm per meter fall , hopefully this will avoid any rain water build up, it’s a diy job so I’m here looking for tips on the pointing, I’ve made sure to rake out the pug where the slabs meet to allow for a thick joint going below the slabs, it would cost a lot to use the flow joint on mine because of the voids so am thinking of using 3building, 1sharp, 1cement, wet mix and sponge off the slabs as I go, what do you reckon?

@@xxwalhalaxxmozza7415 Id flow point all day over sand and cement but if your using sand cement. 3 and 1 mix so you could do this 1 sharp 2 building sand 1 cement. Id recommend a semi dry mix less water stronger mix .Dont stain the slabs then either. Good luck Justin 👍

That was pave tuff from travis perkins

So did mine always does its not for the faint hearted Many thanks Justin 👍

Hi kelvin Generally a diamond blade suitable to cut indian sandstone

Pave tuff paving slurry from travis perkins Rob 👍

😀😀😀 just run away mate . Well walk i dont run anymore 🤣🤣

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What is a 4 way ? A straight joint or crossing you mean if so none on that patio i can assure you🙂👍

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping I shall retract my last statement 🤭 I thought it looked like you crept the bond over 100ml or so,,, but it’s not,, it’s when bond get close,, ei,, when them shitty fifth sized slab gets used,, “that” 😂 I call them “funky monkey” to my labourer 😂. On the vid when you first damp the area,, it’s just to the right of the darker looking slabs. My bad!! Pay NO attention to me people’s 🙄

@@chriswhite4223 All is forgiven Chris 😀👍💯 no crossing in my patio mate 🤣🤣🤣👍 have a good weekend Justin 👍

And yes meant a cross joint. And yes,, they can destroy the look of a nice patio. Personally,, I now save our “funky monkeys” for cuts only,, found a brilliant laying pattern for a four size,, which is easy to “break and extend” if you know what I mean,, when patio is say 8 by 3 but laying pattern is only 4 by 3. Sorry again for jumping on the negative wagon 🙄

Joseph all i will say is our patios are layed with no hollow sounds and no movement in slabs because of the way we install the patio. As for commenting on other people's work thats not for me to judge .👍

Yes no harm with sealing the stone before grouting or after work is finished 👍👊🧱

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping cheers for getting back to me just thinking of potential staining problems as my joints are quite big so it may take a while to go off

@@swordtailking9395 If your using flowpoint and you install it correctly you will not get any staining .Good luck with it . Justin 👍

Hya charles Thanks mate 👍

Hi Giles Yes i remember it being all different thickness 20 years ago mate a challenge to lay it the labourer would shout out to me thick one or really thin so i could bed up right. I still love Indian sandstone but as you rightly say porcelain is now better due to its lower maintenance but its not a natural product thats where sandstone will always win for me but porcelain is the winner now by far . Thanks giles take care mate 👍

You by it ready mixed many different brands available you just add water and mix its all on the tub the water ratio . Hope that helps Justin 👍

Yes brian 👍

Thank you

Its there the pattern is direct from marshalls 👍

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Hi Andrew We use pave tuff slurry from travis perkins

I am retired and have not laid slabs fo 15 years my neighbour wants me to lay a patio for him Indian sand stone so I am a bit out of touch thank you very much for your help

@@andrewleach1323 you be fine im sure .if you need any help give me a ring if you want . Justin 👍

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping thanks Justin much appreciated

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping Justin they delivered cementone SBR with the slabs can that be used the same sorry to bother you

🤣🤣definitely not saul 🤣👍

Good idea mate but we been doing so long that its stuck now 🤣🤣👍

You have a point about pre sealing yes the rest theres nothing wrong with it .As long as its sealed after its fine some clients may not be able to afford pre sealing but its a valid point point the rest your just picking holes and you no it

No honestly not picking holes I used to furrow bed myself but it's actually better not to furrow bed I only make a little recess in mortar bed around edges of slabs I am laying against but furrowing is not needed it actually can leave voids under paving and there are a few long straight lines in job that I personally think are to long and should be broken earlier to made job more random 👍

@@scoyle1750 i do get what you are saying about the beds and voids .Ive tied it your way but i find it better to add more bed furrow and hit it hard down .As for the long lines its fine we use a marshalls laying pattern. Your entitled to your opinions i respect that 👍💯

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping your definitely not using a laying pattern as lines to long and if you are stick it on KZfaq next to your paving but definitely better not furrowing it's all about getting your bed right so you can use mallet to bed slab into mortar without having to over hammer, also good paver never looks at a laying pattern 👍

@@scoyle1750 🤣🤣🤣 wow

Each to there own Allan wise guys mate with nothing better to do than pick holes 🤣🤣

Hi John Used one years ago on brickwork but not on patios .Do you use one 👍

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping used one for first time on Indian sandstone the other day and once you get the mix right I thought it worked really well , hard on the back though and I would suggest two guns with one person filling them and will need to trowel up later when mix has started to set

Thats the pattern marshalls supplied with the paving 👍

🤣🤣 brilliant

Thanks very much and yea Brad is a champion 🤣🤣👍👊

Joints are all 10-15mm

Sorry for the sound my apologies we try out best.As for doing it wrong and dry pack what ever that is .screed mix you mean is it.You can actually lay on a screed mix yes or a wet mix either is right so to say im doing it wrong i disagree but i respect your opinion thats fine. Thanks for the comment Justin 👍💯

@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping Take it from somebody who has been doing this work since 1985 and every different way there is (including your way), I'm telling you, while your patio will look fine for a long time, those stones will gradually separate from that mortar bed and will sound hollow underneath, cracks will appear in the mortar joints. The way I do it now, I learned from a Portuguese stone mason and is by far the best way.

@@bonanzatime 1989 i started. They way i am doing it with the bonding slurry and sharp sand mix is 💯 Good practice practice nothing wrong with it but if you dont agree that is fine no issue with me .i also have no issue with your laying process ive done it each to there own i guess . Just different opinions thats all . Good luck . Justin 👍💯

We send the trowel through the mortar just to make it easier to hit down into place if thats what you mean

Thanks very much 🤣👍