Centrifugal force

2:41 You mean 'comprised' not 'compromised' while we're at it :D

Nani Kansei (not dorifuto)

This video makes the assumption that the kart is inherently "neutral" or has a slight push. In the real world, nothing is ever that simple or stable. There can be cases where a kart has a bit of a push in one corner, and may be a bit loose in another corner (actually, this can easily happen, as the left/right weight balance of a kart is almost never perfect). Also, hand position on the steering wheel is a far more effective way to control weight shift than "leaning" -- move your hands closer to the top of the steering wheel, and more weight is "naturally" shifted to the outside, whereas moving hands closer to the bottom of the steering causes weight to be shifted toward the inside. Additionally, pushing or pulling on the steering wheel can cause slight changes in how the chassis functions under braking or acceleration due to how the chassis is flexed with that force. Bottom line: it's not nearly as simple as leaning in or out.

@@hpedwno such thing, it’s inertia 😀

oh god...

haha amazing

LOL well you're missing 2 tires for that move!!

skill issue

i dont want to break the fun but there is something similiar to lean out when using bike which is counter lean when your bike lean sharper than you

Thanks for your feedback! Regarding leaning out, there is no need to exaggerate it. Simply go with the natural force which always pushes you away from the corner.

I always exaggerated the leaning in the rain (both, outer front and back tyres). Helped me a lot with grip and reducing the impact on curbs.

Im karting at my local on monday night turning up early to get this test session in because I know I lean in on a couple corners

Everyone is slow around you then 😅

@@kartingtips I'm still a little confused. Can you help? If you're "leaning in" wouldn't that weight make the inside tyres spin slower, making it turn faster, since the outside tyres are spinning faster. Or perhaps, that is true, but it's still a slower technique due to other reasons. The biggest one I can think of is reduced traction. But you'd think you would have higher traction with the "leaning in" method. Maybe it's a case of like having a deflated tyre.... yes there's greater surface area, hence traction, but it might be about a balance of traction/Goldilocks zone. For instance, "too much traction" = "frictional forces" = "less efficiency" = "less speed" = "slower laptime". Would that make sense? I feel like that's where you were heading with this concept. If we take that above hypothesis as correct, then we can think about how to optimise traction. I'm wondering if you can get EVEN FASTER laptimes by "leaning back" during turns. You may want to shift the weight to the back tyres, so that the front tyres can turn more effectively. Go karts only have the front two wheels that can turn, the rear ones can merely slide. There's no fancy Four-Wheel Steering like we see with the Nissan GT-R and other sports cars.

Helpful. Although in rental karts especially with the tyres used the grip is mininal. And youll often lose time sliding but its good advice especially to ne carefuk of the ribs.

@@Le_equitabliste no even in rental, in big competition the grip can become very big, so big that you can roll over the kart in some track ( i drive all over europe in indoor and outdoor i have driven in more than 70+ track with rental and 2 stroke competition) some track have no grip, but some track are grippy as hell, i remember a world championship where it was so hot, that the tyre melted to the track and we had to cut the rubber with knifes because the tyre was melted with the ground and it was rental karting..the grip was crazy that day. if you drive outdoor, usually the older the ground is the lighter grey it will look and the more slippery the track will be and the more likely you will have to slide in rental kart to be fast, in reverse, a new ground concrete ground, will be darker almost black and you tend to have more grip and you will have to drive clean with no slide to be fast. also, the less temperature you have ( in winter ) the more you will have to slide, and the cleaner you will have to be in summer. same for humidity, the more humid the more slide, the more dry less slide and more clean.

Great comment, the video is good but its only situational. Every kart is different even when you have the same rental cars, every track is different, you have different weather and temparature and its something you have to reassess every time. And yeah you can break rips by just leaning outside, i broke 3 on 2 different occasions, at least they are more robust now lol

@@benistingray6097 yes it can even vary from the qualifying to the race, and situation can change during a 10 minute race too, good driver has to adapt lap after lap, yes for the ribs it strenghten with the time, have also lots of elbows tendinities when i compete too much

Thanks!

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Big brain techniques

You! Bloody!!

So you’re a dirty racer then?

Same! I just assumed you’d want a flat kart rather than pushing one side of the kart. Such an oversight!

The kart is still flat but more weight on the outside wheel gives it more traction most kart racers do it so subtle it’s hard to see the lean makes an incredible difference took 2 second at my local track leaning out

Same! Years doing it wrong 😂

I'd suggest NOT learning bad driving habits that help crappy rental karts handle better. Get yourself a proper real racing kart, learn to set it up correctly, then you won't be doing silly stuff like leaning the wrong way while driving.

@@KrustyKlown I think you should absolutely do everything that will make you faster right there and right now. It is crucial skill if you want to be a competitive driver. If your rig demands to lean whatever, you absolutely should. Otherwise you will always blame your rig, weather, opponents, your mom, for you beating slow.

Amazing! Glad the technique helped you 🙌

I really appreciate your feedback! It's these types of comments which make me even more motivated to make better videos for you guys! Stay tuned for this weekend's upload :)

This. In some occasions, you'd like a bit more understeer. That's only in the corners where you feel oversteer is the first "danger" of the corner. This can happen in smaller tracks. Where traction is the limit, I guess leaning back/into the corner helps. I never took too seriously the lean out techique because in the indoor track where I go, they're mostly hairpins. So you get into the corners with the brake, mostly. But I have to try the lean out in some corners, I didn't think about the difference in oversteer/understeer being the reason of doing so.

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Great idea! If only it rained in Qatar 😂 I'll be doing a tour of tracks in the UK so I guess I'll have a better chance then. Let me know if you have any track recommendations!

@@kartingtips Well I'm not from the UK but I'm sure you won't have a problem finding and choosing tracks, motorsport it s really big there as you already know and there are loads of tracks that youtubers and people in general go to quite often. So pretty much the more "famous" tracks would be nice to see a type of presentation and if it doesn't rain there's no problem, enjoy the hopefully nice weather and I'm sure that at one point you ll get to experience rain too ;)

KTips has a short video called 'The wet line in go karting' You might find that useful although it is short.

@@kartingtips rye house is my local track and is great! I also reccomend the daytona tracks, while ive never been on them, am planning to soon and look great. Not to mention the karts are rapid! If your ever looking for indoor karting, teamsport is the way to go in the UK. Great, short tracks and quite fun (until somebody thinks they are in a bumper car)

​@@MrALPHAHOWL I'm about to move to the UK so I've found your comment quite interesting, thanks! Also Club100 seems to be elite but more expensive. I'll keep on looking for tracks, leagues and teams 😊

It'll be the fact that it's countering the understeer on the inside tires by taking weight off of them, so you're effectively taking a wider line while keeping the cart in the same place :). Imagine the inside and outside tires are like 2 motorbikes, the outside ones are taking a shallower curve so weighting them over the inside ones means more speedy speed.

Centripetal force*

More pressure to the outer tyres means more traction, and more acceleration for that outer tyre. So what happens? Let's think a bit. The outside tyres will travel more distance than the inside tyres due to having more acceleration, so the car will have a tendency to turn inwards, aka getting centripetal acceleration. With this, and assuming no major grip losses, it is possible to carry more momentum throughout the corner than without the centripetal acceleration, hence having more speed. Hopefully that helps. Edit: I should probably include that since karts generally have lock differentials, having same/similar grip level for the inward and outward tyres is not desirable at cornering since the kart will want to straighten out from having similar acceleration from the inward and outward tyres. The excessive wheelspin for the inwards tyres will also lessen the tyre lifespan

Centrifugal force is a pseudo force, it just describes the relation between inertia and centripetal force from a rotating reference frame

@@tophmyster glad both of these comments were left

* your inertia

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And 100% for human DRS, I started with 2 strokes race bikes and I’m tall asf so this is a second nature to try hide for Cx !

THATS GRAVITY STUPID

Technically is the centripetal force that pulls the kart towards the centre of the corner. A centrifugal force is a pseudo force that doesn’t really exist and describes the feeling the driver gets when they resist the pull. Look up the difference on a physics site.

@@Tailspin80 From a non intertial reference frame is the centrifugal force, from an inertial reference frame is inertia

@@lozy497 I recall the difference being drilled into us in Physics many years ago at school. This is a quote from LiveScience: The main difference between centripetal and centrifugal forces is that the centripetal force is the force pointing towards the center of a circle that keeps an object moving in a circular path, while the centrifugal force is the sensation that an object feels when it moves in that circular path, with that sensation seeming to push it away from the center of a circle.

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That's awesome! Well done dude!