Never thought I'd want a muzzle loader so much, just need to decide 6",4",3" or 2" 🤔think it has to be the snubby!

Meanwhile where I live in Montana, people trade semi-automatic pistols and revolvers amongst each other like they're Pokémon cards 😅

Got to say as an average American working man with a pretty decent collection I'd actually love to have something like this. Shotgun primers are the only common and relatively cheap primers in the states these days. And it's different, very different

Callum - the great thing about this gun is that it can be shared by other shooters in your club, unlike the regular LPR or LB Pistol, that can only be shot by the registered owner.

God I feel bad for you guys!!!! Cheers from the USA!!!

The lengths in which it takes a European to get a firearm that has been outdated for over 100 years

Great quality revolvers , i have shot a few of them now . cracking guns

You Britts are clever when it comes to law workarounds. That thing is cool. Would love to have one.

Wow! It looks like a piece of artwork

the revolvers look amazing !

I had one of these and they are a lot of fun. Overall less hassle than a tradition ML with a (once loaded and ready to go) more modern look and feel. That said careful primer selection before a range visit is absolutely key! There's so little gap between the cylinder and frame that everything must seat completely flush and the cylinder itself kept very clean. I'm all for solutions like this and innovative people like Alan with the guts to make things happen. We'd have nothing but 19th century ML's otherwise.

Alan is such a legend

Thank you for posting. Very intriguing revolver. Would love to own one.

I was lucky enough to try one of these out recently. I was awesome

I love the Brits for thier history and ingenuity. As an American, I own half a dozen ARs in varying calibers, but I enjoy muzzleloading alot more! I would love to experience shooting in the UK one day, if allowed, of course.

It is surprising, I didn't know much of this idea or the effort to make it. It's good.

What a great idea, love it

Alan is such a perfectionist he makes the tolerances possibly a little too fine. Fouling will make the cylinder jam so you need to clean the cylinder between shots, especially the primer pockets, but Alan makes a tool that is quick and simple to use. You also need to only use soft lead bullets. Alan makes a beautiful swaged wad cutter but my favourite is a Hornady hollow base. In the film you see them loading a barrel wad cutter, very good and cheap. Never use a hard lead as I destroyed a cylinder and Alan had to make me a new one. Powder has to be a large flake and I used Blue Dot. Load approximates a .38 special.

Thanks for giving me many reasons and examples why we must resist imitating the UK as regard to firearms restrictions.

Very cool. Here (in The States) all of our black powder revolvers are reproductions of 19th century designs. This is very interesting.

sad that its needed

If l was still in the UK, l would buy this gun. Closest gun you can own to a true handgun without question. ❤

Shot that before down at Phoenix Range. Reloading times just a pain but it's a good gun. Never had issues that you was having though lol.

£950 for a made to order revolver is actually a very good price. I love stuff like this, i hate that this has to happen but as an engineering enjoyer this is great. Basically a modern revolver with a 10 minute reload

Just a tip: Try lubricating the "bullets", and/or as well as stuffing the remaining chamber space with lube, something along the lines of Bore Butter, or even Crisco (lard). (This, of course, means using slightly less powder, so there is sufficient room to put lube on top of the projectiles.) This lubrication will cut down on some of the fouling, reducing the seizing up of the cylinder. (It'll also help keep the barrel clean and lubed.) You could also have a can of CLP standing by, to spritz the cylinder pin during shooting. Also, not sure if it is allowable by English law, but if so, you could consider pre-made paper cartridges. Use cigarette papers, and some light glue. Wrap the paper over a tapered wooden dowel (tapered to fit in chamber, not too snugly, not too loosely), leaving some paper at bottom , to fold over and glue. Let dry. Pour in desired/needed powder charge, then add the bullet, seating firmly on powder. Twist off the top of the paper, over the bullet, and cut away excess. (You can still even use lubed/waxed bullets, but you'll need a cardboard spacer between the powder and bullet, to not foul the powder.) Then, all that's left is pushing the paper cartridge into the chamber, and ramming it home with the loading rod. No need to puncture the paper (though you can), as the primer will burn through the paper. Besides, the paper will crush and break, when run down with the loading lever. I love my black powder pistols. I'm a little jealous though... Mine use number 10 caps (very small, hard to place), not shotgun primers. The primer setup on that Alpha looks awesome, and less troublesome than my caps-on-nipples setups. Of course, my pistols are historical reproductions, so the nipples are historically accurate, but the convenience of primer "wells" would be nice for at least some of my pistols. Have fun blowing smoke!

I don't know why the authorities don't like these , they're no different from other BP revolvers , just a modern version.

The revolver in this revolver looks very interesting and I would love to shoot it. I am going to assume it is like a 38 Special. I am not how well it would sell here (I live in the USA) as our working reproduction cap and ball revolvers can be had for about $300USD. But it definitely has some fantastic innovation. Remember, following the law is not a loophole.

I always feel so bad for anyone into firearms that lives in a restricted country. If it was me i would literally get depressed from not being able to own and enjoy what I want.

Great video. Curious with muzzle loaders in the UK, are there any restrictions on how many cylinders you can own and make up before hand to bring it the range?

Hi Callum, Are you still shooting the Alfa 357? Had nitro burner with a new model army and seriously tempted on this one.

I have two of these and both have the cylinder binding issue, in fact there are a few more at my club and they all seem to have the same issue.. Slightly annoying and i should probably call Alan and ask him about it but it's still great fun

Is there any issue with powder going through the flash hole before you get the primers seated? I'm glad to see you guys have an option over there for some simulacra of pistol shooting. It's such a different world from here where I daily carry a 9mm Smith & Wesson and have a safe full of auto loading rifles.

Can the cylinder be swapped out with that on a functional D/A Taurus? I'd expect the ejector rod would also need to be replaced with the compatible one. If he runs into stiff and persistent resistance in the UK, maybe he could produce BP conversion kits for sales to the American market. Great product for a modern six shooter!!

Here in the states we have conversions to go from black powder cylinder to cartridge weird seeing it the other way.

So what kind of powder is being used? Is it a solid pellet(s) like you can get for some modern muzzle loaders, or is there something I am missing with the design of the cylinder thats preventing the powder from falling out before a primer is placed?

A neat solution to twatty laws

If he chould figure out as way to cheaply mass produce cyliders that'd be a really cool gun even in the us les handgun friendly states. It'd probably br quicker hen a normal relaod with bullets. He also needs to makes a system where the primers are pressed in or you're going to get thst jamming,

interesting. there was a blank-only firing Alfa made revolver that uses shotgun primers instead of blank cartridges. IIRC it was based on a rimfire version with aluminium frame. somehow this version shown looks like a logical step

Forgive my ignorance but can/is Nitro powder used in these revolvers? It would save a lot of mess and corrosion issues if so.

no matter what laws they wright they can never stop human ingenuity from getting what it wants.

Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! Do I feel the Englishman's pain?

3:03 Armscor are resellers for Alfa revolvers, which are decent, but for the love of god, stay away from their Rock Island Armory revolvers - they are absolute junk. I had one, and I had to return it four times over a period of six months before they finally managed to supply me with a working one. Luckily, I live in America so I was able to do the returns by mail, but I shudder to think how difficult it would be for someone in the UK, especially as they had to replace my gun twice (ie different serial numbers). I expect Westlake do their own quality control, so it's less risky, but the guns are so poorly made, I don't have much confidence in their long term durability. Once they sent me a working one, I took it straight to the gun store and traded it towards the purchase of a different gun. I made videos to document the faulty guns and return process, so I urge you to watch those first if you're considering buying one.

Primers first otherwise what stops the power from calling out ?

Can you have multiple cylinders or are you limited to just one??

Can you buy multiple cylinders and hot swap them like magazines is my question

Might be cool if it you could of showed more than 15grain loads. Here in the ststes I'm doing 35grains of 777 in a 5.5in long barrell 1858. If this thing could hold s decent 30 to 35grains it could be pretty cool especially how easy cyclenders come off. I really wish someone would make or come out with a kit to turn like a 1858 44cal new army or equivalent into a 257 or 308. If I was getting almost 100fps with 200grain slugs out a 5.5in barrel in 44cal imagine what you could do with a 65grain .257 prob around 22mag speeds or a heavier 125grain for more fpe. Either way make one 1⃣ those 44cal bp revolvers into a 22-308cal and keep the powder ammoung in the cylender the same and youde get Some crazy results.

So do you need a license to own this pistol?

In theory a muzzle loader can be just as accurate is not more so than a weapon using fixed metallic ammunition loaded from the breech. What ingenuity that needed to overcome shameful british law.

So hard to get one atm😢

Needs a loading lever

There'll always be an England (I hope).

I guess I'm missing the point with the British gun laws. What's the difference between a standard DA revolver, that takes standard cartridges vs this revolver loaded with smokeless powder, primer, and projectiles? Does it make it less lethal because it doesn't take cartridges? And I thought we had some stupid laws here in the US!

Very interesting, I shoot a reproduction BP revolver. Please use the correct term of “bullet” not head.

Wow? I don't even know what to say? A modern revolver, that you have to load like a black powder one? Better off,not even having one. It looks interesting. But, highly impractical.

I have some issues with these revolvers.. firstly the primers leak and blast muck into the action. These frames are not designed to be opened and cleaned and are not easy to keep in working order. My main issue is however with the loading sequence. I really do not like the idea of folk carrying round loaded and primed cylinders. This practice is not allowed on "normal" muzzle loading pistols which should only be primed on the firing point. Loaded cylinders are IMHO dangerous and are capable of discharging if dropped as the primers are all exposed.

Fuckin sad.

Hopefully the Liberals wont ban these too

hahahaha that's ridiculous to do all that

now you can shoot just like a American lol.

I guess you can do this because of those loaders not technically a firearm or do they consider them firearms, unlike the states I hope for your sake. They are not firearms to at least give you some freedom.

my countrys gun laws have got worse and worse with every hundresds of thousands of immigrants. Im sure to say that it went batshit crazy in the UK for the same reason.

so you can carry several loaded cylinders as spare magazines