How to Make 12V Lithium Battery to replace the Old 12V UPS Battery || 12V LiFePo4 || 12V Li-Ion

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Жыл бұрын

#diylithiumbattery #opengreenenergy #18650batterypack
In this video, I will show how to make a 12V Lithium battery by using 18650 and 32650 Batteries.
I have designed 3D printed case for these batteries with a size nearly equal to the traditional 12V UPS battery.
I have also added BMS to protect the battery pack from different abnormal situations. Also added a capacity meter to check the voltage and capacity of the battery pack.
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Link to download 3D printable STL files:
www.thingiverse.com/thing:541...
Battery Specifications:
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1. LiFePo4 Battery : 12.8V / 6Ah , 830g
2. Li-Ion Battery - 11.1V / 18.2 Ah, 1250g
Note: Before using these batteries check the charger specification of your UPS. Usually, the 4S LiFePo4 battery pack is more suitable for this application because of its nominal voltage of 3.2V.
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Parts Used:
1. 32650 LiFePo4 Battery
2. 18650 Li-Ion Battery
3. Capacity Meter: amzn.to/3OAHpar
4. XT60 Connector:amzn.to/3xPkeTd
5. 14AWG Wires: amzn.to/3OzNHXL
6. 4S BMS - LiFePo4: amzn.to/3tZdDEp
7. 3S BMS - Li-Ion: amzn.to/3zZUF4w
8. Nickel Strips: amzn.to/3xRvVc0
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Tools Used:
3D Printer: amzn.to/3DhYhhY
Spot Welder: bit.ly/2TRmp8O / bit.ly/3AonCFw ( Use Coupon code OGE2021 for 3% Off )
Soldering Iron:amzn.to/3vaJkvu
Wire Stripper: amzn.to/3zWSzlV

Пікірлер: 116

@silent4543 Жыл бұрын

I would like to see some longevity tests on something like this. Some cheaper ups units will actively use the SLA battery to smooth out the output voltage, this might cause excessive wear on Lithium based batteries.

@YukitoEiri Жыл бұрын

Hi, I really liked your model. Just what I'm looking for. The only point is that I use catl prism batteries. If I asked you, would you be able to change the dimensions of the case and cover for me? I am far from 3D graphics, I can increase the size myself, but in this case, the dimensions for the screen and the connector also increase, and I need to leave them as they are, since I also use xt60 and the screen is the same size ... Thank you!

@LA-Creative Жыл бұрын

Dude this so cool. So nice of you to share your cad too. You should sell these tho! 👏

@techvaibhav3697 Жыл бұрын

Ur alll videos r just amazing like I love the perfection of ur work❤❤

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Thank You so much. Glad you like my project.

@pitikaron Жыл бұрын

happy to see this expensive spot welding can weld at once copper and nickel both 0.2mm.

@rhammond4656 Жыл бұрын

hi, i have started to make this with 32650 batteries. but i guess the outpot connector is the socket and the charging is to the terminals. is this right please.

@omprakashrout12 Жыл бұрын

very useful 👍👍

@test-193 Жыл бұрын

Nice video! However, your XT-60 is not mounted correctly. It’s supposed to be mounted from inside. So that the screws used on the outside pull the connector tight. Also, the XT-90 version is a better choice for more current capacity. I’d love to see another 4 LFP cells in that box.(4S2P) for greater overall Watthours. (Ie -more capacity). Try staggering the cells instead of the “flat” matrix. If the box needs to be just a tiny bit bigger, it would be worth it to have double the capacity, and double the current delivery. Great job with these. Keep up the good work.

@singuyen305 Жыл бұрын

Congratulation!.......A very nice Design!

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊

@boasnovasonline8764 Жыл бұрын

ola meu querido me tire um grande duvida, bateria de nobreak serve para substituir as da bike elétrica???posso colocar 4 bateria de nobreak na bike elétrica o que acontece??da paera rodar um alternador de 6 bobinas com um controlador de 350w 36 a 48 usando 4 bateria de nobreak?minhas bateria são de 7 Ah

@dalubhasalegend Жыл бұрын

Ganda nman po nyan my shop po ba kyong pwdeng bilan ng mga gawa nyong gnyan sir,,salamat po

@joniltechtv Жыл бұрын

do have shop can i buy your case for 18650

@boasnovasonline8764 Жыл бұрын

hello my dear, take me out of a big doubt, nobreak battery is used to replace the electric bike ones???can i put 4 nobreak battery in the electric bike what happens?? to run a 6 coil alternator with a 350w 36 controller at 48 using 4 UPS battery? My battery is 7 Ah

@edwinaquino2886 10 ай бұрын

Very impressive

@georgeagsamosam7353 Жыл бұрын

good very nice and clean. how to order the product sir and how much I plan to buy your product.

@hondayamaha3 Жыл бұрын

Nice content. Very useful

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Thank You

@b7chandan Жыл бұрын

Good channel

@rajchakroborty.6327 Жыл бұрын

Lithium fosfer battery ka canection Kay alag hota ha??

@iamnext420 8 ай бұрын

Can i used this battery in computer ups??

@JPToto Жыл бұрын

Well done! I'd like to build one of these to replace the terrible lead acid one in my kids' scooter. I _do_ miss the narration on this video so I hope you'll bring it back! And will you add an Instructable as well? I'm not complaining, you do great work. Thanks!

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your genuine feedback. I personally prefer voiceovers in my video but sometimes due to time constraints, I am forced to upload it without voiceover.

@JPToto Жыл бұрын

@@opengreenenergy I understand that. I've had to make similar compromises. Thanks again for your great content!

@anthonypelchat Жыл бұрын

@@eone2345 I'm curious which cells you used to replace your car battery and what was the cost. I'm sure that it's LFP since li-ion wouldn't charge right from the alternator. Just which size and brand?

@gideonlapidus8996 Жыл бұрын

What type of charger? Same as lead acid or constant current constant voltage?

@divikumar5475 Жыл бұрын

Thats really a cool build, where can I get the battery box I am looking for it everywhere but I cannot find it

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Thank You. You can 3D print the box. The link for the design file is given in the description

@breakflight Жыл бұрын

I like a lot of this. But some of those cold solder joints are scary. Also, traditionally XT60s use the female connector for the battery, which is more protected.

@jasonkeen7108 Жыл бұрын

Can always print a cover for the socket after all used the 3d printer to print the battery case

@casualsideofficial Жыл бұрын

Excellent 👍🏻

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@priyalakshmi1216 Жыл бұрын

I want need this product . So please purchase link details

@SirHackaL0t. Жыл бұрын

Is that the right connector for the pack? Surely it should be the socket, not the plug that goes on the live connections. Far too easy to short those connectors accidentally.

@TOK178 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great videos. I also build this battery bank, but my question is, can I connect two of this battery banks in parallel to get the double capacity?

@jimmatrix7244 Жыл бұрын

Certainly! Just need a larger container and appropriate BMS.

@sivakumarbv22 Жыл бұрын

Nice project , female connector is better , to avoid short circuit

@jasonkeen7108 Жыл бұрын

Can always print a cover for the socket after all used the 3d printer to print the battery case

@welligtondorea90 Жыл бұрын

Onde comprar essa bateria

@saddamdigitalsavakandra1291 Жыл бұрын

Amazing

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Thank You

@sathiyabhama5154 9 ай бұрын

Nice. Price please.

@burkesdale Жыл бұрын

Hello, Have you a wiring diagram please for the Li-Ion Battery - 11.1V / 18.2 Ah, 1250g?

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

You can watch this video where i have explained the details. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtdifbior8_XiWQ.html

@artistdogmom Жыл бұрын

nice 🤝

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@-m-n-s- Жыл бұрын

Since the video is in the suggested ones. This will not work in a UPS. 30A is not enough for a UPS, the operating mode is not suitable, it is very expensive.

@davidepiccini9254 Жыл бұрын

Wow

@ajayyadav-vl7wf Жыл бұрын

Tyar karne ki cost kya aate hai

@darthfate2139 Жыл бұрын

This can be used only with ups where only smal amount of packs is used. It cant be used in high voltage battery systems like 8x12V. If one battery is depleted and BMS shut it down, then ohers wil reverse voltage on that battery and single BMS cant handle this and will burn,...

@solortamiltech620 Жыл бұрын

First view from India

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@amocarnell2721 Жыл бұрын

Kannst du den Link zu Thingieverse einfügen? Das wäre super!

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

www.thingiverse.com/thing:5417911

@arsentimirov4438 Жыл бұрын

акум получился хороший единственная проблема это этот индикатор заряда. в общем индикатор надо соединять через кнопку иначе он высаживает акум в ноль, у меня там 2 банки умерло от переразряда

@soumennandi5128 10 ай бұрын

Buy link

@alpha_pixel_ Жыл бұрын

Does it really replace the Lead acid? Bcoz cut off voltage of lead acid circuits is different. Than full charge of li ion and lifepo4.

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

I have mentioned in the video description. But the Lifepo4 Battery cutoff voltage is very close to the lead acid battery.

@alpha_pixel_ Жыл бұрын

@@opengreenenergy 12.7 for lead acid, 14.6 for lifepo4 🤔

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Please go through this article regarding the charging voltage for the lead acid battery. www.powerstream.com/SLA.htm

@xSO20 Жыл бұрын

how do you charge it? do you bms or do you need a charging module?

@adoado6106 Жыл бұрын

U need charging module probably IMO this video lacks important information.

@NutScrewGamer Жыл бұрын

I've always wanted to build these batteries. Unfortunately, I only have 3 lithium ion batteries and I don't have the budget to buy more. I don't trust those cheap "1500mah" batteries from China. Ordered once and it was very light. Was actually planning to keep some money to buy the more expensive stuff to serve me longer during a power outage

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Nice 👍

@tabletcasacasa5523 Жыл бұрын

buy laptop battery instead

@NutScrewGamer Жыл бұрын

@@tabletcasacasa5523 I can't find any in my local area. Online shopping is also not really an option since I have pretty bad time shopping online

@athrunzala5337 Жыл бұрын

Do I understand that the LifePo are not as hazardous to work with as Lithium ion batteries?

@jordanpack5571 2 ай бұрын

What you’re asking is correct, FePO4 is a less dangerous cathode material than other chemistries such as NMC. However, LiFePO4 batteries are still Lithium Ion batteries.

@athrunzala5337 2 ай бұрын

@@jordanpack5571 so the danger is still there . . what are the tolerances?

@onurody 5 ай бұрын

The question I have in my mind is that you used 3s in one battery and 4s in the other, is there a purpose for this? Finally, my ups battery charging voltage is 16.20v 4s or 3s should I make a battery

@opengreenenergy 5 ай бұрын

There are two different battery chemistry one is lithium ion and other one is lithium iron phosphate. The cell voltage of the first one is 3.7V and the second one is 3.2V. For the second one we need 4S ( 3.2 x 4 ) to get around 12V.

@simorafit-io5fs 2 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

@onlineshoppingjakarta7338 Жыл бұрын

I have a li on battery for my motorcycle. They do not last long maybe a year or 2 years.

@sktech7058 Жыл бұрын

Are This parts are available in india

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

All parts are available on robu.in

@soumennandi5128 10 ай бұрын

I need to buy

@kadyo2op64 Жыл бұрын

Can you make a now a lipo4 powerbank?32650 maybe?

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Noted, i will make in the future

@kadyo2op64 Жыл бұрын

@@opengreenenergy nice cant wait

@uddinsk Жыл бұрын

DO U SELL

@CAPTINKING Жыл бұрын

Plastic is very green

@jervis206 Жыл бұрын

You mean the reusable lithium battery packs Yes they are At least more than a lead-acid battery

@narendrakhona1168 Жыл бұрын

NEEDS CAPTIONS, & OTHER INFO

@bubundhar Жыл бұрын

where is your load test ?

@AHMED_Q0 Жыл бұрын

3.2v هذه ال pms مخصص ل ليثيوم

@antonbakker2475 Жыл бұрын

Nice project. A few remarks: The connector is better to use a female instead of a male. Less chance of accidentally short circuiting. Second, you're missing a fuse. You really need to fuse those otherwise they will explode. Thirdly, don't solder on the battery itself. It's difficult to heat up and it may damage the battery. Always solder on the nickel strip away from the battery. Also, be careful with your charger. Lead acid chargers are a lot different than lead-acid chargers.

@mdaslamknl Жыл бұрын

Excellent Can you share, the stl file Thanks

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

www.thingiverse.com/thing:5417911

@sagarraj9212 Жыл бұрын

Hume bhi ek 12 volt ki lithium-ion battery chahiye aap hume bhej sakte hai

@KarthikHandlooms Жыл бұрын

Hi green battery price

@opengreenenergy Жыл бұрын

Not for sale.

@CL-yp1bs Жыл бұрын

Are you sure that BMS can even handle enough power to run your computer off your UPS? This seems very under built...

@user-te7ks8su6h Жыл бұрын

என்ன விலை எங்கு வாங்குவது எப்படி கிடைக்கும்

@LA-Creative Жыл бұрын

Or at least sell the empty cases with battery meter. 😎

@RedEyedITguy 9 ай бұрын

You can't call it a 12v battery if its 3s lithium and sits nominally at 10.8 volts. Good luck running any 12v devices besides a fan or a light bulb.

@deepakmahapatra3060 3 ай бұрын

After charge voltage increase my friend

@RedEyedITguy 3 ай бұрын

@@deepakmahapatra3060 Yes yaar, but you're not maximizing usable range of the battery - lithium 18650 has a range from 3.8 when empty and 4.2 volts when charged: 3.8v x 3 cells = 10.8v 4.2v x 3 cells = 12.6v. This means your battery has a range from 10.8v to 12.6v. So when it's 100% charged you can call it 12v battery, but when it's 50% charged it will only have 10 or 11volts. You should use lithium iron phosphate (Lifepo4) 18650 battery in a 4s configuration for better 12v battery. They have charge range from 3.2v to 4v. This way minimum 12.8 volts and max is 16v.

@deepakmahapatra3060 3 ай бұрын

@@RedEyedITguy thank you very good information....but If I want to full charge can I charge it with 12v charger or I need 16v charger..

@deepakmahapatra3060 3 ай бұрын

@@RedEyedITguy hello sir please answer me

@nourshafei4308 Жыл бұрын

2nd

@RADIANTTOYSREPAIRANDSERVICES Ай бұрын

Sir please can you give your number I need one customized battery holder please can you make

@jordanpack5571 2 ай бұрын

LiFePO4 batteries are still Lithium Ion batteries. Come on.

@gopronomad4381 8 ай бұрын

DISLIKE because while this works well with lifepo4, the title indicates this could also work with li-ion and this video does not discuss the issue of voltage difference between a standard ups that outputs up to 13+ volts into a li-ion. BMS could fail causing the battery to get over charged which is a fire hazard.

@janglur 10 ай бұрын

The voltage difference between SLA and Lithium batteries is not insignificant, the BMS will NOT be able to mitigate this. This is NOT a safe hack and should NOT be used!

@DiyTechTube869 Жыл бұрын

This components are very expensive

@DiyTechTube869 Жыл бұрын

If you reading this reply please make cheap 12v battery kuch new chiso se

@Ahmedhkad Жыл бұрын

I don't see UPS and no test ? why that much batteries? I won't talk about how danger this bms board with no real balance, don't use this at home

@bentheguru4986 Жыл бұрын

Oh, battery is the easy bit. You can't just put different chemistry batteries into UPS's and the like and expect them to work or last. You need to modify the UPS battery settings to have a hope, foolish to just swap and expect to work.