In this episode we look at some basic points of grammar, including plurality, tense, and valency. Music: Fearofdark: fearofdark.bandcamp.com/album...
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@5thDragonDreamCaster5 жыл бұрын
Valency, 'how many electrons does the verb have?'
@bonbonpony5 жыл бұрын
Those two uses of this word are justified, if you consider what "valency" and "valent" mean ;)
@markmayonnaise11635 жыл бұрын
Actually, the word valency in linguistics was metaphorically extended from the chemical sense! Some late 19th century American linguist coined it.
@c.d.dailey80134 жыл бұрын
LOL Maybe entangle is like chlorine and jump is like sodium. Clorine readily takes in electrons. It only need to get one more to have a full and stable valence. It is like how entangle readilly takes in an object verb. Sodium doesn't take up electrons. It is trying to get rid of them. It only needs to get rid of one more electron to have a full and stable valence. It is like how jump doesn't get an object. I use those two chemical elements as an example because it is used all the time. Whenever they teach about ionic bonding it is always those two used first. They form regular table salt. The chemical compound is sodium chloride. The mineral name is halite. It is the tastiest rock ever. I find it intriguing that sodium and chlorine are really dangerous when separated and they are safe and even healthy when combined together. I am not sure why. Maybe the salt is more stable and it is safer. It can cause problems with blood pressure and kidneys, but that is only if too much is consumed. A moderate amount of salt is very healthy. There is a hilarious prank that warns of the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide. Water is very safe and healthy too, but it is funny to claim that it is dangerous under a fancy technical name. I wonder if one can make a similar prank with the dangers of sodium chloride.
@scptime11884 жыл бұрын
@Dylan Strudwick it's neither, it's in a covalent bond
@revanmkt54713 жыл бұрын
lmao
@sitelentawapijansawetu56254 жыл бұрын
One of my older conlangs, "Santaspeak", had reduplication to form commands. "Ho ho ho" was actually a phrase used by Santa to command his elves to obey, with the third "ho" merely being added for extra emphasis.
@icecreamsandwich75224 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry... what?
@marcusdillem96784 жыл бұрын
@@icecreamsandwich7522 You read it
@icecreamsandwich75224 жыл бұрын
Marcus Dillem I wish I hadn’t
@kornsuwin4 жыл бұрын
why
@kunookio-loserindisguisep13654 жыл бұрын
Scary
@tenletters58895 жыл бұрын
6:39 "I jump you" means either you're getting jumped over, or you're getting your teeth kicked in.
@wonderingaround9454 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@SailorBarsoom4 жыл бұрын
Or you're having some fairly vigorous sex.
@deepsolar1694 жыл бұрын
@@SailorBarsoom Sometimes I hate language...
@wassapdude944 жыл бұрын
"I jump you" In spanish (Te salto) can mean "I skip you"
@idonthaveanygoodnametouse17044 жыл бұрын
Hopefully not both at the same time.
@rarebeeph17835 жыл бұрын
To me, the phrase "I entangle" works, even without a direct object. It means to me that I generally cause things to be entangled.
@joshualewandowski17214 жыл бұрын
Like my ear buds cuz I don't have airpods
@beardown33164 жыл бұрын
Cool you making a language? I am its called lee'ee
@doggycraftyt18144 жыл бұрын
Bear down I am too!! It’s called Iligari
@beardown33164 жыл бұрын
@@doggycraftyt1814 cool im still making it but this is my first one
@doggycraftyt18144 жыл бұрын
Bear down it’s my first GOOD one. Most of my other ones were the equivalent of Thandian XD
@rosso41225 жыл бұрын
The German at 2:41 "Sie wären gekommen" does not mean "I would go", it means "They would have come"
@Biblaridion5 жыл бұрын
Huh... no idea how that happened. Cheers for pointing that out.
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs5 жыл бұрын
Could also mean you would have come, depending on the context, as sie can mean they when referring to a group, but its also a formal you in german, though its capitalized in that case, but since german sentences are always capitalized at the start as opposed to english, its impossible to tell here.
@rosso41225 жыл бұрын
@@Chrischi3TutorialLPs english capitalizes at the start of every sentence too.
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs5 жыл бұрын
@@rosso4122 yeah my bad, but as opposed to german english doesnt capitalize nouns for merit of being nouns.
@Yotanido5 жыл бұрын
English does capitalise proper nouns, like "English" and "German", though :P But you are right, it could mean "you would have come". I have to say, though, that it seems a bit contrived. Maybe as a question...
@chesspiece4257 Жыл бұрын
I love making compound words have interesting roots. “Home” means “my tree” for my language and “night” means “no-sky” (as opposed to day meaning “light-sky”)
@nobodishere2 жыл бұрын
In the language im working on tenses are made with the words "sunrise" and "sunset" depending on which one comes next. For example, on the morning, if you say "i see animal sunrise" means that you saw an animal. If you say it at night though, it means "i will see the animal." In scribes has to be specified where the sun is, so everyone understands the sentence.
@MelodiiMilmshake Жыл бұрын
sounds interesting, never thought of anything like that concept
@oro1238910 ай бұрын
wow, very cool (yet confusing) idea!
@40watt538 ай бұрын
I was thinking something like this, though it wouldn't be relative, but I was also imagining using seasons for the distant future and past. Imagine having to write the damn time and date for your words to be properly understood
@samuelrosenberg50884 жыл бұрын
Scientist: Invents a time machine. The Turkish Time Tenses: *"Amateur."*
@AHHHHHHHHHHHHl3 жыл бұрын
"I should write as if this answer could be seen." I want to know now what the proper translation is.
@OkyanusKarSen3 жыл бұрын
@@AHHHHHHHHHHHHl Not far off actually, "(I have been told/I have figured out) I should write this response as if it can be seen." 'Yazmalıyım' is just I should write, 'yazmalıymışım' indicates some sort of revelation about the obligation of the act of writing, by using the "heard past tense" as we call it (as opposed to "seen past tense", which indicates a past event to which we have bared witness).
@Salep145383 жыл бұрын
@Kadir Garip Never thought I could see another Turk
@rosenberry91502 жыл бұрын
@Kaí Dou google has my defence!
@oguzhankarahan1737 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, what? I didn't get a thing out of what you said.
@pumpulipuikko9885 жыл бұрын
8:26 That sounds ergative. “I animal rock see cause” makes me more sense.
@fuwameanssoft4 жыл бұрын
“You can’t say ‘I jump you’” *laughs in British*
@M_Julian_TSP4 жыл бұрын
Ahah. In French one can "jump someone", but that literally means to fuck someone
@devonoknabo25824 жыл бұрын
@@M_Julian_TSP french really likes sex
@sexmansex47764 жыл бұрын
@@devonoknabo2582 them baguettes and culs are just everywhere over there, huh.
@larkito32794 жыл бұрын
Çentoé's brother taking the romance in romance languages a little too far..
@devonoknabo25824 жыл бұрын
@@larkito3279 oui
@donttellnonna5 жыл бұрын
In many dialects of American English especially those clustered on the Northeastern portions frequently make use of "to jump" in a transitive sense such as "They jumped him yesterday" denoting that he was attacked in a surprise fashion by some group of people. Dialects make everything more fun!
@flipn70495 жыл бұрын
In my language (Greek) it means that you f*ck him
@misterZalli5 жыл бұрын
That Finnish tense part seems to be wrong. "Minä näin koiran myöhemmin" is nonsensical and would literally mean "I saw a dog later", since "näin" ("[I] saw") is past tense. Correct version would be the present tense "näen" ("[I] see"), or just like in English, "tulen näkemään" which is "[I] will see" where the verb is in passive. Also "tulla" means "come" but serves as "will". (Also the inflection of the verb implies person, so the pronoun ("minä") can be left out to make the phrase seem more natural, so the way I would say this phrase in writing would be like "Näen koiran myöhemmin" or "Tulen näkemään koiran myöhemmin")
@Biblaridion5 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, I can see now I must have copied ‘näin’ instead of ‘näen’ by accident when composing the sentence. That’s irritating, I wish there were a way to fix that. Thanks for pointing it out, though.
@Saturinus5 жыл бұрын
"Minä näin koiran myöhemmin" is not non-sensical, but it does indeed mean "I saw the dog later".
@sourestcake4 жыл бұрын
I don't usually use "tulla" to indicate future tense, i use "mennä" or "aikoa" instead; but this doesn't work with passive verbs like "nähdä". So, i would say "menen katsomaan"/"aion katsoa". Or in reality: "meen kattomaa"/"aijjon kattoo".
@rosenberry91502 жыл бұрын
@@Saturinus It'll be logical to a time traveller lol
@bienghuo96362 жыл бұрын
The Chinese at 2:07 has a similar problem, it should be 我昨天看狗 instead of 我明天看狗
@luciussakura5031 Жыл бұрын
Japanese has a really interesting example of aspect and tense. So Japanese has a present/future tense and a past tense. However, there is also a verb conjugation called the te form. What the basic te form means differs depending on the type of verb. To die in te form means has already died, but to eat means eating now.
@wintergray1221 Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming you mean the te-form plus iru. From its basic meaning, it's the same. "The state of being/doing (something). Shinde iru = "being dead/has died", tabete iru = "being in the process of eating". Though I think this is slowly becoming more of a present tense while the lexical verb form is shifting into future.
@sandpaperunderthetable6708Ай бұрын
the te form alone without the 'iru' is the request form, like 'tabete' means 'please eat' or 'nonde' means 'please drink'
@kristopherruiz76445 жыл бұрын
1:31 Texas *singular- I/me *plural -us/them *paucal-y'all *plural all y'all
@@playtimethejumpropegirl7555 is this the krusty krab?
@bacicinvatteneaca4 жыл бұрын
Me: Singular: thi Dual: thoos Paucal: ye Plural: yous
@sporeman23344 жыл бұрын
@@alejrandom6592 no this is patrick
@user-vm9xz4kv9z4 жыл бұрын
"Y'all" is plural, "All y'all" is collective
@MGDrzyzga3 жыл бұрын
Hypothetical tense - now that's interesting. If I build a conlang, I like the idea of using a future tense derived from "I hope" while a hypothetical tense derives from "I dream."
@BringOnTheRainxx33 жыл бұрын
Yknow, the first language i tried to create for my comic (its called zhiwai), i actually came to a lot of these conclusions on my own, which is baffling considering i was in a manic hyperfixation, flailing about with notebooks and sheets of looseleaf and spreadsheets scattered all around me every night and weekend for months. I wanted something simple so i created, essentially, some root words encoded from english and tried to expand out from there while simultaneously creating a writing system based HEAVILY in hangul because i thought hangul was the COOLEST. But there were some issues with how it read. I wanted the language basically to keep some aspects of the story mysterious for a time, so the romanization shouldnt have mattered. But then it became more of a naturalistic storytelling tool. Thats when i fell down the rabbit hole, creating grammar and syntax and trying to find a way to make it look and read more naturalistically. Eventually i burnt out on the project as a whole, but after finding this series, i think ill give it another shot, doing more research and using the general steps youve described.
@antonymeanonyme89442 жыл бұрын
How's it going so far ?
@baerlybearly3521 Жыл бұрын
Unnecessary amount of words
@le_meme_man8983 Жыл бұрын
@@baerlybearly3521 Kekw
@doppiossparefrogphone1906 Жыл бұрын
@@baerlybearly3521 lil bro illiterate☠️☠️😭😭😞😞😞
@wolftube57939 ай бұрын
It's very sad to see these LGBT flags everywhere💀💔
@DTux52495 жыл бұрын
I mean, English doesn't have a future tense either. Tense is part of conjugation. We don't kinda do the same thing. We do do the same thing. Great vid
@Biblaridion5 жыл бұрын
Quite right, although I don't think Finnish's system has a single all-purpose future encoding particle that fulfils the same function of "will" in English.
@DTux52495 жыл бұрын
@@Biblaridion true. But overall, English can show future tense in the same ways finish does Neither have a future, although i guess for English it makes more sense as it's analytic.
@friskjidjidoglu74155 жыл бұрын
That's not true, as it expresses FUT via 'will'; the FUT is just not morphological in English.
@DTux52495 жыл бұрын
@@friskjidjidoglu7415 yes but tense is morphological.
@DTux52495 жыл бұрын
@@friskjidjidoglu7415 just because it doesn't have a future tense doesn't mean it can't express the idea of the future just that is not in our morphology Chinese has no issue expressing the future either.
@Blanch590 Жыл бұрын
My language is extremely in the works right now but it’s called Aldaranti. The name of the language is made up of two words: Aldara(meaning four people) and tighu (meaning to speak) altogether it’s “the language of the four people” and this is so because Aldera, the nation this language is spoken, is made up of four smaller kingdoms that fought in a war, but United at the end. This basically gives me a get out of jail free card for any massive changes in the language. The word “tighu” and the sounds “gh” and “kh” both said in the back of the throat, were slowly changed due to the southwestern kingdoms pronunciation. After years, it became normal to say standard k’s and g’s like that. The eastern nation brought by a lot of words that previously hadn’t existed in the northern region’s language, so some sounds were added to the alphabet, the main one being “oo” (as in book) As for my inspiration, I don’t know. There’s hints of mandarin and Arabic I took but overall I’d say it’s just a mish mash of many languages. As for the culture of the nation I’m focused on, I’m heavily basing it on China and parts of eastern Europe. If I had the mind to focus on one thing and expand on it accordingly, maybe I’d be more sure as to were my inspirations lie, but I’m not that guy. I can’t focus for the life of me. I’ll come to some conclusion, change it, and call it history. In the end, it doesn’t matter, because I’m the one telling the story.
@user-nu6hq3ly3m6 ай бұрын
wow sounds really interesting, would love to read it!!
@w.d.gaster32615 жыл бұрын
I use genius word combinations so that I dont have to make new words. For example, “dum” means not, “do” means no, “dumdo” means yes or “not no”
@pageturner29583 жыл бұрын
You also use one of the craziest and hardest to read fonts as I have seen. This was a bad joke
@aurorasartorialis70924 жыл бұрын
English does have a small number of preserved causative verb forms: lay (from lie), raise (from rise), fell (from fall). There's one other commonly cited one that I'm not thinking of, at the moment. Note that they all involve a shift in the internal vowel, because that's how 'strong' verbs got inflected, back in the day (no endings).
@Pining_for_the_fjords5 жыл бұрын
I guess you've never jumped a queue.
@user-zj8jn3hs6f5 жыл бұрын
You're gonna get jumped if you keep saying things like that
@wormthirtyfour4 жыл бұрын
normally where i live its skip the queue not jump the queue
@thth35894 жыл бұрын
@@wormthirtyfour same
@Gamer-uf1kl4 жыл бұрын
Yes because we are civilized. /s
@Hypie5824 жыл бұрын
@@Gamer-uf1kl exactly, these people are demons lol.
@sobanosilva85854 жыл бұрын
Love the thoroughness of your explanations - I wish there were more examples between explanations. Also - just nitpicking - to jump can take an object if you use it as to assault or attack suddenly he jumped them
@thepanremastered Жыл бұрын
i agree
@seigeengine5 жыл бұрын
There's supposed to be links in the description for more information. I feel betrayed.
@edmund-osborne5 жыл бұрын
Tense is not aspect or mood. Most language teachers conflate the three terms to avoid using too much linguistics jargon and make themselves easier to understand, but this should never be done when teaching conlangers who need to know the differences between these.
@Biblaridion5 жыл бұрын
True, and I think I say as much in the video. However, I would also say that Tense, Aspect, and Mood are never totally distinct from each other; you'll never find a natural language that has, for example, a verb template with three slots - one for tense, one for aspect, and one for mood. Usually verb inflections will encode some combination of the three, even if the inflection was derived from a single lexeme.
@edmund-osborne5 жыл бұрын
@@Biblaridion You conflated them at the start of the video. Tense, aspect and mood may be marked together in most natural languages, but they are still completely separate concepts.
@Saturinus5 жыл бұрын
@@edmund-osborne Yeah, from 2:22 to 2:46 Biblaridion referred to aspects as tenses several times. Later on he did explain about aspects, but that part in the beginning could really confuse noobs. :|
@toothfairy1013310 ай бұрын
i have a conlang which has a "prophetic" tense. it's a language spoke by a species with the ability to recieve prophecies, but they're not always from the future, they could see into the past as well. unfortunately the prophecies never go into specific detail about when things will happen, and it's impossible for the prophet to actually remember the prophecy until it's spoken, so eventually a new tense came about that didn't assume a time period (although it is sometimes possible to figure out a time frame from context after the fact. the prophecies are like dreams, in that some people have very clear and straight-forward prophecies, and some people wake up rambling about vague symbolism and such). it only has third person, because the person is removed entirely from the prophecy, so relative concepts like "me" and "you" don't exist, there's only "they". since future prophecies are considered more useful, the prophetic tense is usually translated as the future "shall", even if it happened in the past, but it depends on the translator.
@40watt538 ай бұрын
That's so fucking cool...
@sosasees5 жыл бұрын
That's why Google Translate can't translate very well Update: This is a very old comment. I typed this 2 years ago, before Google Translator could translate as well as it can today.
@sexmansex47764 жыл бұрын
@@devonoknabo2582 i guess lang creators weren't an exception to the "everyone's a dumbass equally, it only differs in which way from one person to another." quote of truth.
@asloii_17493 жыл бұрын
@@sexmansex4776 what
@sexmansex47763 жыл бұрын
@@asloii_1749 i really don't know what i meant back then. i was probably drunk or something.
@reeck7713 жыл бұрын
@@sexmansex4776 amen
@Win0909493 жыл бұрын
@@sexmansex4776 amen
@arnaldo86815 жыл бұрын
I laughed at the concept of 'jumping you' XD
@FlameRat_YehLon4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of "doubling a word", in Chinese it kinda act as adding a "very" to the word, while in Japanese it can be to refer the "collection" of something, say, ki=tree, kigi=woods; hi=day, hibi=daily, but it can also mean "very" as well.
@user-dk6mr5ww5m3 жыл бұрын
That's what we do in Russian, as well.
@cubing7276 Жыл бұрын
in Chinese if you double a word it just sounds cute except for nouns which are born with double characters
@gal7493 жыл бұрын
In my conlang, Xaski, the future tense preffix came from the word for time. The past prefix came from two words - the word for opposite, followed by the word for time. Thanks for making me understand grammar isn't REALLY BORING!
@GibusWearingMann5 жыл бұрын
I got distracted because I wanted to check how my favorite conlang Ithkuil handles plurality and tense, and big surprise it's kind of complicated: Plurality is handled jointly by Configuration, Affiliation, and Perspective (mostly Configuration), and tense is handled by Perspective (it does double duty) and Extension. There are nine configurations and six extensions. Edit because I forgot to mention: Great video! You've earned a subscribe from me.
@Blanch590 Жыл бұрын
Plurals depend on how many in mine. One person is “khvaian” and many people is “Khvaien” “an” is singular, and “en” is plural. Khvai in its own could be used as well, but only in a more theoretical way. I mean that by saying that instead of talking about a person in front of you, khvai is talking about a person that doesn’t exist. It’s only used for hypotheticals. It’s the difference between saying “say a person did…” and “say ONE person did…” I’m not sure if that makes sense at all to anyone but me. This same rule goes for pretty much all nouns except names and concepts, names stand alone without suffixes, and concepts have to be determined to be plural or singular. “Death” for example has to explicitly state whether or not it is plural. Names such as surnames, unlike English, do not suggest more than one person in it. Where English would be “the smiths” mine would be “the smith” since it a family name, it is already apparent that there is multiple in it, so there’s no need for a suffix. Sometimes this stuff hurts my own brain. It doesn’t help I lose my papers and forget what I wrote on them.
@georgeioan92233 жыл бұрын
Man this series is amazing and has such a high rewatchability factor, everytime i watch it again i learn new things. Damn, conlanging is hard! haha
@EnriqueLaberintico2 жыл бұрын
To mark tense on a verb in Españato 2.0: T is past, P is present, F is future, X is conditional. To mark imperfective aspect, you add an R after the time consonant. For the 3 persons, you use the vowels A, E and I. Indicative has stress on the last syllable (acute), subjunctive has stress on the penultimate (plain). If it finishes with N it's a singular, if it finishes with S it's a plural.
@rosenberry91502 жыл бұрын
Its entirely… affixes with no vowels, it'll make some fun words and btw why need to mark singular?
@EnriqueLaberintico2 жыл бұрын
@@rosenberry9150 the tense is marked with a vowel, serfén means "you will be" for example. The number was just a similarity to Spanish, but since I wrote this comment I see that only nouns and pronouns should decline by person, and case is a better way to mark what is what. So, just serfé.
@MrSharkFIN Жыл бұрын
In colloquial Finnish we also often say "Minä tulen olemaan" ("I come to be") to express the future tense.
@AncientEntity5 жыл бұрын
This is honestly a great tutorial series keep going! I am following the language you are making except editing a few details :D
@alexgabrieluy40294 жыл бұрын
Avīeš. Eideha ynykka ilhniyya Alex! This is my own language, Ulfian, and this is the Ulfian sentence in English. Hi. My name is Alex!
@veeranummila91133 жыл бұрын
2:10 A native Finnish speaker here. You got it right when you wrote "Future = Present tense + time expression" but wrote "näin" instead of "näen" like it was supposed to be. Good job tho! Your videos have been a ton of help to me while I'm making my own conlang!
@ionaneill80615 жыл бұрын
0:50 unfortunately plurals aren’t that simple in German lol
@CaesarsSalad5 жыл бұрын
Yes and at 1:25 we don't have a collective plural form in German. Like, what's the collective plural of "Tasse" supposed to be? This just doesn't exist.
@dhooth5 жыл бұрын
@@CaesarsSalad Yeah, the German collective isn't a grammatical number. It's just an affix used to form some words I believe.
@merobo50665 жыл бұрын
it gets especially confusing when words emdimg in the same syllable in singular have different endings in plural. Die Ampel (the streetlight) - Die Ampeln Das Kapitel (the chapter) - Die Kapitel
@n1ense5 жыл бұрын
@Conrad Lampe Geschirr!
@idonthaveausername86584 жыл бұрын
@Conrad Lampe no idea why "getässe" sounds so funny to me. ima use that from now on.
@haydentaylor52505 жыл бұрын
How did you naturally develop a noun class system in your conlang Oqolaawak?
@liquidduck80523 жыл бұрын
damn, its been two whole years LMAO
@zer0.0.027 күн бұрын
@@liquidduck8052 its 5 already😮
@nidiiii97882 күн бұрын
damn, its been 5 whole years LMAO
@jaskamattila44815 жыл бұрын
Even though most finnish linguists don't consider it "good language" and prefer to use the present tense with context to signify future, finnish actually does have a future particle in the same way as "will": the "tulla" verb, meaning "to come", is commonly used especially in spoken language as a future tense of sort. For example, "syön" is "I eat". Normally to say "I will eat" you would have to explain the future tense with context or additional time markers eg. "syön huomenna" or "I will eat tomorrow", but many people use the "tulla" verb as in "tulen syömään" (literally "I come to eat" but understood as "I will eat")
@maybeanonymous68462 жыл бұрын
My first conlang, which I am currently making, Kuki, already has some grammar. Surrounded by parentheses means optional (C)(C)V(C) syllable structure. C is for consonant, V for vowel. Words should have 1 to 4 syllables Monosyllabic words require a consonant. Subject-verb-object word order. Vowels: a, e, i, o Consonants: b, d, ɸ, h, ʒ, k, l, m, n, p, s, t, θ Vowel letters: A, E, I, O Consonant letters: B, D, F, H, J, K, L, M, N, P, S, T ( and all their lowercase counterparts ) *Possessors* Order is possessor-possessee, similar to English. Kuki uses ' to show that something owns something else. Example: "Thike efaton' doboth." - "This person's heart." *Plurals* If a world ends with a vowel, then the plural should be suffixed with "-s", if the word ends with a consonant it should be "-is." Example: "Eleses' dobothis." - "Eels' hearts." "Eleses' desobes." - "Eels' beds." *Verb conjugation* Verb conjugation should be handled by affixes. If the affix starts with a vowel, and the original verb ends with a vowel, the affix's first vowel will replace the verb's last. "Be" as an adverb indicates that an action is currently happening, or was happening. Verbs in the present are also their infinitive. Tense: past(-ed), present, future(-ad) Example: "Mi bed dole, eth nomi mi be lod." - "I was small, but now I am big." "Joe deso." - "Joe sleeps." "Joe be deso." - "Joe is sleeping." "Joe be desed." - "Joe was sleeping." There are other rules, but I won't put them in this comment
@fraan06028 ай бұрын
How would ' be pronounced in posessors
@kingswagger83002 жыл бұрын
Ayo thanks Biblariadon! I created a language called Himnu and I didn't know what to do for grammar. But, this video helps a ton and I was able to create solid grammar rules.
@xx_thelordandsaviour69_xx814 жыл бұрын
I found another tense from hitchhikers guide to the galaxy which describes time travelling to the future, coming back and then talking about the future in said new tense.
@matthewparker92763 жыл бұрын
Of your conlang is for a sci fi civilisation with time travel this would probably have to be included.
@guilhemc73295 жыл бұрын
"to die" is actually not active, it's passive, therefore "to kill" is active and the causative would be "to make someone kill someone" (you can't turn "to die" into a passive, it's already passive)
@idonthaveausername86584 жыл бұрын
so "to make someone die" is grammatically wrong in english?
@laurencefraser4 жыл бұрын
@@idonthaveausername8658 if you can come up with a situation where you make someone die without either killing them, or making/causing someone/thing else (to) kill them, it would probably be valid. Otherwise, not so much. Though "I shall write him such a letter that he shall die" is valid enough... Though the meaning is that it's a letter which will cause such emotion that the reader will have a heart attack or the like. Though, again,you're not making someone die, you're either killing them or causing them to be killed (even in cases of suicide.)
@mimikal75484 жыл бұрын
help, I've been dyed.
@numinousnihil38042 жыл бұрын
Watching these videos is kicking my ass.
@Error403HRD3 жыл бұрын
I literally just put a certain word at the beginning of a sentence for future or unpredictable future, then one at the end for recent or distant past. Four different words for four tenses. Present is unchanged and usually taken literally, so my verb conjugations shouldn't be too effected by it.
@BroodingEdgelord Жыл бұрын
I made my tenses using the word for time. Which is read as "zeuzia." You start with a root verb eg. Makh-kshla (to reed) and then, based in the tense, you add a part of zeuzia. Past = +sia Present = +nothing Future = + zeu
@richardstimmel2783 жыл бұрын
I would like to mention that chinese doesn’t have direct tenses, but does have tense markers that aren’t related entirely to time words. 我跑步(I run) 我在跑步(I’m running) 我跑步了(I ran)
@wiccawicca73594 жыл бұрын
I don't use seperate characters for capitals in my language. I just use circles around the character.
@HerrWillie4 жыл бұрын
Love your vids man, just noticed that the german translations are sometimes a bit off, but you can still grasp the concept
@antons.3233 жыл бұрын
In Germany there are some well quiet a few special cases like the word “Zug” (train) its plural is “Züge” (trains) which adds the dots on the u and the e German is complicated
@hyperstone95 жыл бұрын
2:03 Isn't mingtian tomorrow?
@samcousins32044 жыл бұрын
@Ng John 明天should be "tomorrow”. hm.
@meritgriffin64854 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised, but am extremely disappointed. The one thing I struggled with when learning German was the distinction between perfect and imperfect past tense. My teacher couldn't tell me, she wasnt a good teacher anyway, but that was the one thing that made learning impossible for me. And yet I find it simply and easily explained to my when I look into what makes a language because I'm board.
@soton40105 жыл бұрын
I decided on a rule: what is modified/acted upon comes first and verbs splits subjects from objects. I have a feeling I'm making an ergative language but it'll be interesting.
@omerosmanaksu51283 жыл бұрын
I love this series, well done. :D As a Turkish speaker I do not have enough English knowledge to explain the correctness/falsity of the examples given, but the correct spelling of Turkish sentences should be in the following form: Ben köpeği görüyorum Ben köpeği gördüm Ben köpeği görüyormuşum Ben köpeği göreceğim Ben köpeği göreceksem Ben köpeği görseymişim Ben köpeği görmüşmüşüm Ben köpeği görecektim Ben köpeği görmüştüm Ben köpeği görmeliyim Thanks for this nice video, peace.
@thethirdjegs5 жыл бұрын
Where have you been this 6 years!!👌👌👌
@sebastian12465 жыл бұрын
This is awesome and informative. Nitpicking a bit but in Mandarin, 只 pronounced ‘zhǐ’ usually means ‘only’ whereas the measure word 只 is usually pronounced ‘zhī’
@sorenskousen746815 күн бұрын
Just making a note for myself: Plurals, tense-aspect-mood (auxiliary verbs), valency (i.e. if a verb can take what is considered to be the "object" in languages with a Nominative-accusative morphosyntactic alignment), causative
@megpie50782 жыл бұрын
I was wondering for my conlang Absku Lokus if auxillary verbs are necessary because from what I can tell, I don't really have them. For example, in my conlang, "to sit" uses the verb "sup". But what I want to do to conjugate it into past/future tense is to add a vowel to the end, like how the past tense of "sup" will be "supo" and the future tense will be "supu". So does that mean the auxiliary is connected to the beginning of the verb or the end? Or is it neither?
@jonasbrown12 жыл бұрын
chinese does have a future and past tense kind of thing but its hard to say if its a tense or not. they put 会 or 了 before or after the verb to indicate if an action will be completed, is complete or happened already. for example: wo zuo wo de zuoye - i am doing my homework; wo hui zuo wo de zuoye - i will/can do my homeowork; wo zuo le wo de zuoye - i did/finished my homework.
@lowellcunningham33323 жыл бұрын
It's checkers where "jump" is undeniably transitive and still carries the same basic meaning as the intransitive form of the word. "jump the shark" is really a shortened version of "jump OVER the shark," so "jump" is intransitive here. "We jumped him and took his money" uses "jump" as a transitive verb, but there's not necessarily any literal leaping off the ground or over an object. The sentence uses an alternate meaning of "jump." In checkers, the word "jump" is used to literally mean one object passing over another and therefore requires an object. "I jumped your king." This transitive form of "jump" still retains the same basic meaning as the intransitive form.
@1theGECKO5 жыл бұрын
I am a little confused at to where to put my my causitive/passive operators in the word order. I assume as it because it is acting on the verb it goes in in the verb position, but do you put it before or after the verb you are modifying? What would be used to decide that? (My word order is VOS)
@oddityimasi-chi26484 жыл бұрын
Can you signal a tence change using a particular symbol/ word at the beginning? Are there any languages out there that do this?
@shardultripathi17562 жыл бұрын
1:15 Sanskrit also use the dual number known as Dwivachan (Dwi:- two; Vachan:- quantity).
@mateusoliveira94262 жыл бұрын
Hey, is there someone who can help me on the valency parte? I'm really confused about the passive... How could "I animal see take" mean I'm seen by the animal? For me it sounds like "I take the vision of the animal". And finally, could you give me more examples of how to evolve a passive?
@tozpeak8 ай бұрын
I am Ukrainian speaker, and for the first time since I learned English construct "to be going to" in high school, I perceived it literally. So we use the construct "to prepare to"/”збираюсь" (which has roots to "gather my stuff (to go)"/"збираю себе
@mrremoveyoureyes19242 жыл бұрын
This is the episode of the series that makes you go AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@Jorb.4 жыл бұрын
The conlang I'm making does plurality by attaching a number onto the word. (ie. cat-4 or house-20). What is that called?
@rjh52032 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to leave valency to be interpreted based on context? For example having a verb be passive if there is no object and causative if there is one. Not sure if that would add confusion or not.
@user-sd7hh8ek1c5 жыл бұрын
I jump you
@kayleighlehrman95665 жыл бұрын
Are there any languages that differentiate between a 'contemporary' present tense and an 'instantaneous' present tense?
@dumupad3-da2412 жыл бұрын
Did I miss that, or was there no mention of analytic vs synthetic, fusional vs agglutinative morphology (with case declension as a possibility), of morphosyntactic alignment (with ergative, active, tripartitite, Austronesian alignment), of dependent vs head marking? These seem like fairly basic and important choices to have in mind when designing the grammar.
@UniMusuotankarep4 жыл бұрын
How would One Evolve Moods? Like Optative, Subjunctive, Imperative, and Hypothetical.
@InnoVintage4 жыл бұрын
for the tense bit i have a generic past auxiliary and an perfective past auxiliary
@efectovogel82955 жыл бұрын
One question; if my language has continious tenses, I have to mark perfectives and/or imperfectives?
@Biblaridion5 жыл бұрын
Well, it depends about how your tense system works. Basically, decide if the unmarked form of a verb is interpreted as the perfective or the imperfective. If it's the imperfective, then the continuous and perfective may be marked by affixes, while if it's the perfective, then, since the continuous is a subset of the imperfective, then the imperfective marking might just be interpreted as a sort of continuous anyway. Alternatively, if you wanted to go with a deeper time-depth, you could say that the proto-system had a perfective/imperfective distinction, and then later, some auxiliary verb got used with the unmarked verb to make the continuous (I do something pretty similar to this in part 7).
@AstraphUriel4 жыл бұрын
Stupid question, but I ran into this thing in my attempt at conlanging. Let's say I'm doing the future tense the way it's in the example (using "to go" as an axulliary verb). Would a sentence "A person will go" (using the sample langage from the vid) be "Alu ua ua"? I know English works this way (A person is going to go), but this sounds waaay less awkward due to first "go" being in continous form. My brain just can't accept seeing two identical words repeated one after another. Is that a legit language thing, or does it sound too artificial to be plausible?
@Biblaridion4 жыл бұрын
Good question. There's no simple answer, but its quite likely that the original word for "to go" will lose its semantic meaning and become pure grammatical marking, and then some other word, possibly meaning something like "to move" or "to walk", will become the new word for "to go".
@AstraphUriel4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for reply :) Guess I'll end up switching from "to go" to some less used verb in my language. I'm thinking either about using "to become" or just going the English way and using "to will".
@alfredo.zauce18923 жыл бұрын
Is jump really the best example of an intransitive verb, considering it can also mean mug/beat up/etc?
@wonderingaround9454 жыл бұрын
My past tense will completely depend on if there is a word like yesterday. Unlike how I added 'in' to make something plural, nothing will be added to the verb to show its past, present or future tense. But then I thought, ' how will anyone know if you did/ are doing something in the past of today, or in the future of today. So I said " well, I'll just scrap that and put will, or have and if it doesn't have that, it's present. I'm not very good at this, but I don't care.
@SnoBlobber3 жыл бұрын
For my language, you add extra symbols to the words to make it grammatically correct. Example: Oodloh yohnoh kiavie (keep in mind my language has different letters altogether so this is just the sound the letters make) and then you would add a dot like this ^ to represent the sentence was in past tense. This only counts for writing things down, but when you're speaking it the ^ is pronounced 'hid'
@conlangshowcasing26903 жыл бұрын
2:16 First time I hear Biblaridion say "Hell". XD
@raylawler132 жыл бұрын
I'm struggling a little with grasping Head-Final syntax. If I wanted to put the following sentence into Head-Final positioning, how would it look? "The tall person on the rock is going to see the floppy ears of the big animal on the beach." I'm making it complex to be sure I fully understand it. Are there multiple heads in this sentence? I feel like it would be something like "The tall thing the person the rock on the big thing the animal the floppy thing the ears the beach on see go". Is that right? So the Heads in this would kind of be the rock and the beach? The rock has "on" it a person which is tall. The beach has "on" it ears which are floppy and possessed by an animal which is big. Do you need context to differentiate "The skinny, tall, grey thing on the rock" and "The skinny tall thing on the grey rock" or would those need something like adjective endings to separate them? Thanks for any and all help!
@purplemosasaurus5987 Жыл бұрын
Question: You said that its okay to leave some tense distinctions unmarked as its more naturalistic. Is it okay to leave the valency distinctions also unmarked?
@tetraquarr5178 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes plural form of a word is completely different from a singular one. Like person and people Same in Russian Человек/люди As well as there are some words in a language that does not follow the usual way for making it plural Child/children And for sure even the common way sometimes affect the word, changing a sound/stressing ( sometimes in order to avoid too much similarity with some other word that already exists) Or adapts itself to be easier to pronounce and just sound nice I think it’ll sound more realistic if adding some exceptions for a few words, not just a strict same pattern
@codyhodges19685 жыл бұрын
Do you have any sources on what certain tenses and aspects evolve from?
@Biblaridion5 жыл бұрын
I would recommend The World Lexicon of Grammaticalization by Bernd Heine as well as The Evolution of Grammar by Joan Bybee et al., and The Art of Language Invention by David Peterson has some pretty helpful explanations too.
@xerenas15935 жыл бұрын
I have a new system! I haven’t done any research, so I may be wrong in thinking that this is a first, but I’m excited anyway! My conlang, Tarivinian, has noun gender suffixes stuck on the ends of verbs, which are different depending on the tense. For example, the sentence ‘Osa saw the dog’ would be: ‘Osa fūeya ostno’. Broken down, that’s: Osa (Nominative) fūe (dog) ya (Accusative suffix) ost (to see) no (female perfect suffix). It’s complicated, but very good for breaking the language down to simple MORPHEME-MORPHEME-MORPHEME etc. word structure. What do you think?
@Biblaridion5 жыл бұрын
Verbs that inflect for the gender of the subject are totally possible (Hebrew, Russian, Swahili, etc.), it just depends on how you're deriving these gender/tense suffixes. Most of the time, gender evolves from separate adjectives that get affixed to nouns and pronouns, and then gender agreement on verbs evolves when the gender pronouns get affixed to the verb. If you do it like that, then the tense and gender suffixes might fuse together over time into a single inseparable suffix, which sounds like what you're going for.
@xerenas15935 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I never expected to get a reply from you, but there we go! Also, if you would like me to put a link to my conlang in the comments, just ask! I would love to share my first conlang with an expert, so you could critique me in the areas that I went wrong in. When it’s finished, of course.
@deflightpup0412 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this will be seen, but how do you develop a sentence like “I see a still rock”. Would “still” work as an adjective or a noun as it still is the action of the rock.
@arthurchrzanowski57855 жыл бұрын
What do I do if I want my verb infinitives to mostly end in a similar way? Like in Latin, how most Present Active Infinitives (besides Irregular Verbs) although belonging to different conjugations, end in -re.
@Biblaridion5 жыл бұрын
Infinitives sometimes evolve from words like "act" or "deed" or "doing" that get affixed onto verb stems.
@GreenNotebookGaming7 ай бұрын
This is what I did for my tenses: Past not recent: If word ends in vowel then suffix p But if word ends in consonant then suffix i Past recent: If word ends in vowel then suffix l But if word ends in consonant then suffix a Present: Word stays same Future: If word starts with vowel then prefix b But if word starts consonant then prefix e’ But also if you are formally talking about a human then if word starts with vowel prefix t, and for consonant it would prefix u
@user-lj6ni8hv5bАй бұрын
is it good if past tense is represented by "am", future is by "pan" before the verb, and if its continous i just add "sa" before "am" and "pan"? will there be any troubles in the future?
@PapaMead5 жыл бұрын
At "5:20" when talking about "imperfective", what if I wanted to mark it with something? How would I go about doing that? I'm not sure if I fully grasp that. And also with "present".
@Biblaridion5 жыл бұрын
Usually (although not always), a given language will treat the basic, unmodified form of the verb as the imperfective and create the perfective by adding an affix, or vice versa. This affix would historically come from a separate verb used as an auxiliary. Though not entirely the same, it's similar to the English distinguish between "I run" (perfective) and "I am running" (imperfective), where the latter uses the verb "am" (to be) as an auxiliary to convey that the verb happens over a duration. This sort of things is talked about a bit more in the collab I did with Artifexian.
@X1SeuFraco9 ай бұрын
Im making my own proto-language and I figured that I don't need to have auxiliary verbs to change the tense or valancy. Instead of using that, I just use a short syllable that changes the meaning of the verb but that syllable does not necessarily mean anything. For example, the word "to sit" is Wahi. If you wanted to say "I will sit" you can say "A wahire", with "re" just being the marking that changes the verb "wahi" to a future (perfect) tense. Does this system make sense? I feel like I can add auxiliary verbs when I evolve the language.
@dillowribeiro5586 Жыл бұрын
Question, I feel I may have gotten lost, but why is it "I rock animal see cause" and not "I animal rock see cause"? Like what exactly dictates that the direct (?) object comes before the indirect (?) one? Or was it arbitrary
@haydentaylor52505 жыл бұрын
How do you say something like "I want to jump"? Would you have to create a new auxiliary word for it?
@Biblaridion5 жыл бұрын
The most likely way would be to just use "want" as an auxiliary (e.g. I bread eat want > "I want to eat bread").
@subcountzero9421 Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem I'm facing with grammer is the indirect object. For reference; I'm totally new to conlang in general I've got the sentence "I gave him a house" that I want to translate, but "him" is an indirect object, and I don't know where to put it in SOV sentence structure. Help?
@fiddeou3 жыл бұрын
Im making a conlang, “the person will see the animal” is spoken as: "hweroudu shea maüheadu"
@felipebarros15723 жыл бұрын
I'm making a conlang too, in mine, "the person will take the animal" as in "the person will adopt the animal" is: "Sanaɾi kenawa-oɾ Átibvuss", is pronounced as [Sanaɾi kenawa-oɾ atibβus], and in direact translation, something like "Person will take dog"
@Oldgen_Flop6 ай бұрын
Do verbs need valency and or valency operations? I’m just wondering cause I am making my first conlang but I don’t understand what valency even means at this point and so it would just be easier if I left out, or maybe not
@xavierreichel82543 ай бұрын
All verbs have valency, by definition. Valency is just which nouns a verb asks for to complete its meaning. The verb ‘sleep’ asks for one noun - someone to sleep. “She slept” is a complete sentence, and “She slept him” is nonsense. Therefore ‘sleep’ is monovalent or ‘intransitive’, it has a valency of one. The verb ‘deceive’ asks for two nouns - someone to do a deception and someone to be fooled by it. “She deceived him” is a full sentence, but “She deceived” feels incomplete. Therefore ‘deceive’ is divalent or ‘transitive’, it has a valency of two. And so on. English is extremely flexible in terms of valency, so it’s a difficult concept to explain to English speakers; “She’s eating” and “She’s eating it” are both perfectly fine sentences, because (to oversimplify a bit) ‘eat’ has multiple possible valencies. You don’t *need* valency-changing operations to have a functional language, but languages, overwhelmingly, do have them, at least a couple. English has a passive voice, for example, which is a valency-decreasing operation. Remember how ‘deceive’ required two nouns? Well, in the passive it only needs one: ‘He was deceived’ is a perfectly fine sentence. You can make a conlang with no valency-changing operations, go right ahead, but understand first that that’s quite unusual, and will make it very difficult to form complex sentences.
@valgorie18113 жыл бұрын
How would a language without the perfect tense like, " I have done it", use the auxiliaries would, could or should. Will it say something like, "I should did it"?
@GKDT4 жыл бұрын
In chinese you actually have a caracter to mark plural (at least thats what my teacher said) : it's 们 and you can use it after a noun to indicate plurality (but its not an obligation)
@CombustableLemon9 ай бұрын
For my grammar, I use the same word to mean different things. (I haven’t gotten a font together, so I will use the English versions of words) For example, saying “You book” would mean “Your book”, and “You sad” would mean “You’re sad”
@chricechiu36735 жыл бұрын
2:03 A few corrections: Mingtian is tomorrow, not yesterday, and 'I have seen a dog' is 'Wo kan guo gou', not 'Wo kan gou guo'. The 'guo' is usually affixed to the verb.
@Biblaridion5 жыл бұрын
I'm really embarrassed that I got 明天 wrong. I messed up a lot with the Mandarin in these episodes (mostly because I was relying on what little Mandarin I can speak).
@hoerange5 жыл бұрын
Tbh i think there's a confusion between the perfective and imperfective aspect and the global and secant aspect. It's probaly because of the definition of Saussure who nammed "perfective/imperfective'' what's now called "global/secant" ;p