How to make a super simple oscillator

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How to make a super simple oscillator
The resistor is 20K.
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@nigeljohnson9820
@nigeljohnson9820 6 жыл бұрын
The quad Schmitt two input nAND is one of my favourite devices. It is so flexible. I once used one to generate pulse position modulation for a voice IR transmitter. One gate was used as a voltage controlled oscillator and the rest were used as a retrigerable monostable and a pulse generator. They also make a great simple circuit for an LED stroboscope. Again one as an oscillator, and two as a pulse width controller monostable. The output csn be used to drive an AC coupled gate of a power MOSFET providing driving to a super bright LED. I have used the circuit to inspect running computer fans.
@frang342
@frang342 5 жыл бұрын
Hey paul,I wanted to thankyou,I'm a disabled vet and I started watching your channel .I've been very interested in learning electronics and since I've been watching you I've learned a lot and now I've purchased a few things from banggood per your recommendations. I'm expecting delivering any day so I can start building a few of the project's you have shown.the 555 timing circuit,oscillators and the function generators.keep up with the videos Paul there very informative.I'm also navy mm,and a shellback
@gregjones3660
@gregjones3660 Жыл бұрын
How did you disabled?
@RAndrewNeal
@RAndrewNeal 3 жыл бұрын
I've been reading resistors a lot recently. I'm finally getting to memorize the color code. It's a 20kΩ resistor.
@frae-frae1940
@frae-frae1940 4 жыл бұрын
$hit... electronic music making brought me to this place of wanting to build my own sound devices. Not only are you making me a geek, I can finally bond and communicate with my AF ret. electeical engineering Father who bought me my first soldering gun for Xmas.
@igglue7671
@igglue7671 3 жыл бұрын
Dude Same I went from Playing GD to making music to building audio stuff my Nerd Installer is prob only 35% Complete.
@nigeljohnson9820
@nigeljohnson9820 6 жыл бұрын
're my last post on turning the Schmitt into a voltage controlled oscillator. The trick is to put a constant current pnp bipolar transistor in the feed back circuit, with a diode discharge in the reverse direction across the transistor. The diode provides a fixed discharge period and the transistor provides a linear voltage dependent charge period. With this topology the transistor is only biased on when charging the capacitor. In the charging mode the base of the constant current source can be driven from a simple common emitter transistor amp. Surprisingly this arrangement can be made to give a very linear voltage to frequency output. The circuit dates back to a project I did during work experience in my student days in the late 1970s. The idea was to produce an IR microphone link circuit for a radio transmitter. The receiver used a pulse count discriminatory also made from a few logic parts. From memory, the IR carrier frequency was 8 to 10 kHz. The receiver converted the pulse position modulation into pulse width modulation using another monostable, this was fillowed by an op-amp integrator and an eight pole Butterworth op-amp filter, used to seperate the audio from the carrier. The project requirement spec was that the microphone should work in full desert sunlight at a range of four metres. To this end an active load was used for the photo detector diode, a BPX65. A schmitt gate was used to provide an IR carrier detect squelch to suppress fm noise in the absents of a microphone transmitter, the squelch was also used to act as the Press to Talk control of the a 10 watt VHF fm transmitter. The biggest limitation of the circuit was that it generated popcorn noise under fluorescent strip lights. The advantage of PP modulation was that the ir LEDs were operated at If = 4 amps pulsed at somewhere between 1 to 10us pulse width. Yet the microphone 9 volt battery current was less than 20mA. I should point this is all from memory, so my figures are approximate. I would need to find my old lab book for the exact figures. The component count was relative high, but very low cost as most of the circuit was made from B series CMOS, namely CD 4093b. At this point I should apologise for this rambling post walk down my memory lane.
@learnelectronics
@learnelectronics 6 жыл бұрын
No, do not apologise. I enjoy reading this type of post, thank you for sharing it.
@nigeljohnson9820
@nigeljohnson9820 6 жыл бұрын
learnelectronics now days all this can be done with a tiny Bluetooth headset, but in the 1970s, a radio linked microphone would have involved a seperate radio licence for the microphone frequency as well as the main transmitter. There would have been huge equipment approval costs and there would also been the problem of co channel interference. The target market was motorcycle headsets and wire free in car microphones. In the end the project was shelved for commercial reasons, but technically it work quite well for the period.
@coloradowilderness3139
@coloradowilderness3139 6 жыл бұрын
Nigel Johnson Pls share your thoughts about electronics. Many novice can learn from this comments .. Thanks
@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3
@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3 2 жыл бұрын
I’m working on 16 Oscillator Mod Rn for a sequencer. I love hearing colors and seeing sounds. Great Video
@lfmtube
@lfmtube 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sr!. Very instructive
@TRONMAGNUM2099
@TRONMAGNUM2099 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Learned so much from your channel
@eebaker699
@eebaker699 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I must say that this circuit looks surprisingly like one of those electronic flickering LED tea light candles.😁
@michaelpadovani9566
@michaelpadovani9566 6 жыл бұрын
I still think the 555 makes the best simple oscillator
@5ch4um1
@5ch4um1 2 жыл бұрын
i am the 555th person who liked this video... :D but seriously, this is hillarious, i just built this, with a schmitt trigger that i recycled from my car, and played around a bit with the capacitor and resistor values, and it works A LOT better than expected, 22pf, both resistors 1k ohm, and it looked perfectly fine as far as i could measure (cheap 48 mhz logic analzer), that gave me a whooping 2 mhz square wave with almost exactly 25% off period. really amazing!
@firstgear11382
@firstgear11382 Жыл бұрын
You can use an 82k(ohms) resistor and a 47uF capacitor 👍😃
@HazeAnderson
@HazeAnderson 5 жыл бұрын
As per your challenge to build this circuit -- ironically I stumbled onto your channel during my (ongoing) quest to learn how to build synthesizers. I have plenty of CD40106 chips to play with but I am lacking in fundamental EE knowledge, so I have been working with 555 chips to better challenge myself. If you have not seen "Casper Electronics DIY synth building. Part 1: Oscillators" here on KZfaq I invite you to check it out. Part 2 introduces some really fun sequencers and I am in the process of designing my own "daughterboard"-ish prototype to mix and amplify audio from my test circuits. Cheers!
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, that dude seems to have completed his YT experience and hasn't posted for half a generation. For another great synth explainer channel that isn't just trying to sell computers on a stick, Look Mum No Computer is the current leader of the pack.
@josedominguez2021
@josedominguez2021 6 жыл бұрын
As Always.... SUPPPERRRRBBBB!!!!!!!!
@MalagasOnFire
@MalagasOnFire 6 жыл бұрын
Another simple oscillator. I used to build 555 oscillators or with Opamps. With opamps is similar to this inverted buffer, having an aditional feedback resistor divider to the non-inverting pin. Resistor color code RED = 2, BLK = 0, BLK = 0, RED = x10, BRN = 1%
@learnelectronics
@learnelectronics 6 жыл бұрын
You got it
@MalagasOnFire
@MalagasOnFire 6 жыл бұрын
Here is an improvised 555 oscillator with slow pace kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9qgasyXm7HbqJc.html
@jerrys2292
@jerrys2292 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the led and oscilloscope are loading the out put of the inverter. Ignoring breadboard capacitance and such; grounding unused input and taking output through another inverter gives stable results. But quazi-stable is the purty, lol.
@williammiller7543
@williammiller7543 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Speaking of Oscillascopes, what wpuld be your recommendation for a reasonably good/cheap scope for us hobiests. Emphasis on inexpensive. I tried a $20 kit, it didn't turn out well.
@brianminhton9771
@brianminhton9771 6 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, Paul really likes the Hantek DSO5072P which is about $240 USD.
@learnelectronics
@learnelectronics 6 жыл бұрын
Yes the Hantek 5072P. Look in my Amazon store. Link in description. 200MHz, 1Gs/S.
@SimpleEnough2k9
@SimpleEnough2k9 6 жыл бұрын
Even though there aren't many components in your oscillator, there is obviously something not working as expected. For instance the unstable duty cycle, missed pulse or whatever you want to call it, should not happen. Perhaps grounding the other inputs might solve the issue, but I'm not 100% convinced. As a friendly advice, making sure you've got a working circuit along with mathematical validation, if applicable, would be greatly appreciated. For example, using a RC circuit with a 74HC14 like presented here, the hobbyist should expect an output frequency in the range of 1/(RC) to 2/(RC), depending on the threshold range, threshold boundaries and VCC for instance. The CMOS family are bound to some specifications that are different for the TTL family would be an element that would worth to be mentioned thus incitating the hobbyists to search further more if they're planning to use such type of oscillator. One "funny" thing I noticed from your video clips is such that expressions like "Snap, what happened here ?", "That shouldn't be like that !", "I don't know what's going on !" and perhaps some others too, are censored and translated to "INTERESTING !". So if we hear you saying "INTERESTING", we'll know something most likely didn't go as planned. Don't get me wrong, your videos are serving their purposes, providing beginners with some information to get started with. To my personal taste, more specifically with electronics, theory and practice should be considered as a whole. If we don't master the theory, how can we validate what we put to practice ? Sometimes having a better understanding of the theory can help us at improving the troubleshooting. With the 20K and the 100uF we would expect a frequency of 1Hz or so. Seeing something in the 50-60Hz range on the scope would motivate most of us to raise the flag and investigate and perhaps conclude as you did with "INTERESTING" ! ;--)
@coloradowilderness3139
@coloradowilderness3139 6 жыл бұрын
SimpleEnough2k9 Nice info, Thanks.
@michaelhoste_
@michaelhoste_ Жыл бұрын
Yeah 100uF is massive. Try nF instead.
@YouAllKnowBob
@YouAllKnowBob 6 жыл бұрын
I think the output would be more regular if you grounded all the unused outputs. Love the oscillator series!
@GORF_EMPIRE
@GORF_EMPIRE 4 жыл бұрын
One should definitely pull up or down all the inputs. I do not think the outputs to ground matter as much if at all. If anything the outputs should be pulled up or down but not directly to ground.
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 Жыл бұрын
@@GORF_EMPIRE Ground the unused inputs to stop the gate from self-activating and generating noise that may resonate with some other minor ethereal presence, which may unintentionally materialize ghosts in your circuit. Don't do anything with unused outputs. Shunting them to ground or Vcc will only draw excess power for no stated purpose.
@PhonesHQ
@PhonesHQ 2 жыл бұрын
Cool. Im using this to make a very simple synth. How do I add a pitch knob?
@michaelhoste_
@michaelhoste_ Жыл бұрын
Replace the single resistor with a pot (eg 100k to 1M) and a small resistor (220ohm). [The small resistor keeps the total resistance in that leg above zero even when the pot is fully wound back to zero.] Secondly, make the capacitor much, much smaller (a few nanofarads. For audible range the trick is to have a 'small enough' cap to get the high end (when the pot is wound back to zero), and a 'large enough' resistor (ie the pot) to get the low end, when the pot is wound all the way up. Start with say 10nF, 100k pot + 220ohm resistor. If it doesn't go high enough, make the cap smaller, if it doesn't go low enough, use a bigger pot (eg 500k or 1M). With the right values you will get the entire audio range. PS. Tie the other 5 inputs on the chip to ground for stability. Search '40106' (just a different hex inverter) for a bunch of better versions of this scheme. I was once where you are, but there's a lot of great stuff on youtube for this. But it's 6 months later, and you probably found out already!
@BirdsongOrchestra
@BirdsongOrchestra 3 жыл бұрын
If I wanted to make this audible, where would i put the output?
@brizee993
@brizee993 11 ай бұрын
Try connecting the inputs of the unused gates in the chip to either ground or VCC. 74 chips can be unstable if inputs are left floating.
@mikebond6328
@mikebond6328 4 ай бұрын
Yes.
@georgechambers3197
@georgechambers3197 6 жыл бұрын
I built the transistor circuit but for this circuit I need to order more parts. Is there no end? Chip and capacitor assortment in the store? Thanks for more fun stuff!
@learnelectronics
@learnelectronics 6 жыл бұрын
They will be soon enough...
@n0tett
@n0tett 2 жыл бұрын
I'm new to all of this, so what you are creating it on is essentially a plastic printed circuit board? or is kind of acting as one for practicing circuits? What is this device? Edit: It's breadboard
@learnelectronics
@learnelectronics 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nNdmiJiKlprTfWg.html
@tigrafrog
@tigrafrog 6 жыл бұрын
If you use odd number of Schmitt-trigger inverters then in theory it should be enough to run unstable oscillator, but I don't have oscilloscope good enough to detect that frequency, can be megahertz range. ..and I just google it. yes, "few MHz" :)
@qwerty-by2hh
@qwerty-by2hh 11 ай бұрын
resistor value =120 ohms
@bblod4896
@bblod4896 6 жыл бұрын
Tron is attacking the MCP! Drunk oscillator.
@learnelectronics
@learnelectronics 6 жыл бұрын
Tron...one of my favorite movies and my all-time favorite arcade game. Light Cycles were the best!
@bblod4896
@bblod4896 6 жыл бұрын
learnelectronics Yep. Dropped many quarters in the machines back then.
@SimpleEnough2k9
@SimpleEnough2k9 6 жыл бұрын
For everybody's interest, on the w2aew channel, there is a very good clip too on the Schmitt Trigger oscillator [ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hNuInNd-sJmsg3U.html ]. I built the oscillator and as Alan did, I used it as my signal source for a time domain reflectometer. Worked like a charm. The timestamp is simply a marker where he explained how to compute the oscillator frequency.
@fredlllll
@fredlllll 6 жыл бұрын
any simple circuits that are made for driving piezo transducers?
@learnelectronics
@learnelectronics 6 жыл бұрын
Still working on your ultrasonic knife?
@jedandecko5585
@jedandecko5585 6 жыл бұрын
AD9833 board (0-25MHz), easy to use with attiny or arduino, and 555 (not cheapest one, there is one that go to 2 MHz) get some BU4... transistor I think. AD is 5-7 eur, rest is maybe 0.3 per piece. If you doing 1.7 MHz go for 555, if you want signal generator go for AD. There is couple of videos on you tube how to make signal generator with AD, down side peak-to-peak is 0.6 V if I can remember corectly. Have fun :)
@fredlllll
@fredlllll 6 жыл бұрын
@learnelectronics got me :P still dreaming about it, but i guess without being able to machine a horn im not gonna get very far, but its worth a try.
@fredlllll
@fredlllll 6 жыл бұрын
@Jedan Decko i need a power driver for a piezo element that is used in cheapo ultrasonic baths. and i tried setting the frequency by hand using a manual circuit, but the resonance frequency seems to be very very narrow or is shifting, so i couldnt get much of a reaction out of it. i just used an esp32 and generated a square wave
@jedandecko5585
@jedandecko5585 6 жыл бұрын
Nice, can y share code pls? What is max freq of esp32?
@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers
@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers 4 жыл бұрын
No speaker with sound, sir?
@rahulpatelgujratahmedabad3497
@rahulpatelgujratahmedabad3497 Жыл бұрын
👌👌🌹GOOD TICHING KARTE HO AP THANKS 👌🌹💖😂😆
@user-tc1xn3ik6z
@user-tc1xn3ik6z 3 жыл бұрын
good gob
@rreemmoorrii
@rreemmoorrii 4 жыл бұрын
how about cv
@aris_spnl6090
@aris_spnl6090 3 жыл бұрын
pov: you are a musician watching this
@cheetahkid
@cheetahkid 6 жыл бұрын
I won't be saying what value :) it look like 20k and the other way look like 120R
@learnelectronics
@learnelectronics 6 жыл бұрын
Answer in the description
@qwerty-by2hh
@qwerty-by2hh 11 ай бұрын
dam it i answered 120 ohms
@savitayadv8624
@savitayadv8624 4 жыл бұрын
Plz make a 2.4ghz oscillator
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