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How to Make a Tongue and Groove Joint by Hand|How to Use a Tongue and Groove Plane

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Bob Rozaieski Fine Woodworking

Bob Rozaieski Fine Woodworking

Күн бұрын

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@o2bsam
@o2bsam 4 жыл бұрын
T&G joints are something I’ve always needed but have eluded me for years. Enjoyed the video. Stay safe buddy.
@tyremanguitars
@tyremanguitars 4 жыл бұрын
I might get that T&G plane, looks amazing, and much better than the noise of machines.
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a fantastic tool.
@georgepauls2911
@georgepauls2911 3 жыл бұрын
There are 2 planes for different thickness boards, nice planes The new ones are better than getting antique Stanley’s
@tombaker3794
@tombaker3794 4 жыл бұрын
Nice trick with the deck of cards. I've found all the unsolicited credit card size cards in the mail like AARP cards, old gift cards, AAA cards, etc. work pretty good too.
@ikust007
@ikust007 4 жыл бұрын
The information concerning the space is very valuable . Thank you
@Robin-rr2ue
@Robin-rr2ue 4 жыл бұрын
Well explained and that's a beautiful plane. I like the fact that you demonstrated this with the context of a real project.
@ikust007
@ikust007 4 жыл бұрын
This plane is amazing I must say ... I have my Stanley 45 : not an easy one to work with but those the job... also have wood ones but “brand new”. Just found them. So I must sharpen them...
@chrisparkinson9237
@chrisparkinson9237 Жыл бұрын
Just recieved the 3/4" version of this plane, the #48. What a beauty she is, rips through red oak like a hot knife through butter. Need to get my hands the #49 but they had none in stock. I have a fair few LN planes and they are worth every penny, even though we end up paying almost double RRP here in the UK due to Shipping, Duty & VAT
@danthechippie4439
@danthechippie4439 10 ай бұрын
Hi, I was wondering about grain direction. You obviously won't have an opinion to go with the grain all the time using this tool, does it preform well against the grain? Thanks
@chrisparkinson9237
@chrisparkinson9237 10 ай бұрын
I haven't used it much, but when I have used it, I haven't had any issues with tear out; keep blade razor sharp, and you be fine.
@ikust007
@ikust007 4 жыл бұрын
What a timing ! I need that .
@spiffmark
@spiffmark 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you! That card trick is super helpful.
@AssafOppenheimer
@AssafOppenheimer Жыл бұрын
very well explained, I was wondering how with such a plane, taking relatively thick shavings. you control tearout on the tongue's? Tearout there should be visable
@ikust007
@ikust007 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Bob!!!
@RafaelHe
@RafaelHe 4 жыл бұрын
Bob, I noticed you are not using your wooden planes. What prompted the switch?
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
I still have some and I still really like them. But the bench planes and most of the joinery planes were replaced about 4 years ago. There were several reasons. (1) When I moved to VA I moved into a shop that was not climate controlled. The wooden planes didn’t like it and the large humidity swings caused movement issues that I got tired of dealing with and constantly lapping and fixing. So I switched to metal where I could. (2) I started teaching more classes and had a hard time recommending wooden planes to my students because decent users have become more and more difficult to find on the old tools market. Great new ones are available but very expensive and not all of my students can afford to buy all new planes. Good old iron is still readily available at reasonable prices. (3) In classes, I found I spent less time having to fettle students’ metal planes as opposed to wooden planes that often needed significantly more work.
@RafaelHe
@RafaelHe 4 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Fortunately my workshop is in my basement and I don't have extreme humidity changes. I have a few wooden planes and really like them.
@livewiya
@livewiya 4 жыл бұрын
Can you speak to how LN's T&G plane compares to vintage No. 48/49s? I appreciate it'll certainly have much tighter tolerances and have no doubt the quality will be fantastic; my question is whether this is a tool where that matters a lot? Being a hobbyist, I've found I really enjoy the patina of vintage tools, and just the fact that they are as old as they are. I also don't hold myself to exacting standards or could justify a new premium plane as a practical investment like a pro may. That being said, shop time is scarce and I'm not trying to spend that time fussing with tools if they don't hold up from age and wear, or had terrible design flaws that modern versions may have solved. I can learn to compensate for an old tool's play sometimes, and I like rehabbing old tools, but I'm no purist either. I'm excited to see new videos! Great content as always.
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
livewiya Tighter tolerances for sure. Also better quality control. I spent some time troubleshooting a #48 for a student one time and it turned out that because of a flaw in the casting, the blades could not be aligned parallel. It was able to be fixed with some careful filing of the casting but was not an easy problem to diagnose. But it kept him from being able to create an acceptable joint with the tool. A quick ebay search of completed auctions shows that the vintage #48s sell anywhere from $70-150 depending on condition. I personally would not spend more than $50-70 on a vintage one if I was going to have to do any kind of significant work on it, especially if there’s a chance of a similar casting flaw like the one my student’s plane had. And I’d have a really hard time spending $100 or more for an old Stanley when the new LN is only $195. These are not one of LN’s more expensive tools in my opinion and for the small price difference there’s a significant jump in precision. In my opinion this is one tool where the LN is worth the slightly higher price tag.
@livewiya
@livewiya 4 жыл бұрын
@@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking I must say, I'm fortunate to not be too concerned about the price or price difference but I do think these are all great points. I should note to anyone else reading this, they've recently increased the price to $225 USD. (I generally consider most LN tools to be good value - understanding what these tools cost craftsmen back then, in terms of number of day's wages, LN products could be considered absolute bargains). All that being said, you've lead me to think I'll purchase the LN, (and only later get a vintage swing-fence T&G if I can handle/assess it in person).
@alexponcho2279
@alexponcho2279 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained Bob. What are de advantages of using this type of joint in furniture making? I know tongue and groove is very usefull for flooring, but i do not see any grate advantage insted of edge glue. Maybe a little more strong joint? What are your thoughts, Bob?
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
When T&G is used in furniture it is typically used in areas that are not glued, such as cabinet backs and chest floors. In these situations the boards are just typically nailed on so that they can expand and contract freely with the seasons. The tongue and groove allows the boards to expand and contract individually while still preventing gaps from opening between the boards. It also helps keep the edges aligned. You can also use tongue and groove as an alignment aid when edge gluing. It adds a little strength but it’s more helpful for alignment than it is for added strength.
@alexponcho2279
@alexponcho2279 3 жыл бұрын
In this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pd6nirx0tbyueJ8.html , Franz explains that the half-lap joint is used for decorative purposes and to avoid seeing through. Is the tongue and groove used in cabinetmaking in the same way?
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexponcho2279 Yes, T&G works the same as a ship lap but it keeps the boards’ edges aligned better than a ship lap.
@danthechippie4439
@danthechippie4439 10 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm guessing you can't always use this tool with the grain, how does it preform against the grain? Thanks
@nicksallis1765
@nicksallis1765 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that is beautiful wood! What kind is it?
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Quarter sawn white oak
@boriscache6350
@boriscache6350 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot from France ! We only wish you an air conditionner..
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Boris CACHE Lol, nah. We didn’t even put one in our house when we built it. We rarely get above 85 F / 29 C where I live during the day and most evenings it cools down into the 60s F/ 15-18 C, even in the hottest part of the year. So I can be warm during the day but it’s always much cooler for us at night here in the mountains. I’m in a basement/garage anyway with no way to put one in if I wanted. I just happen to sweat a lot when I’m working, even in winter. It has just been extra humid where I am recently.
@ikust007
@ikust007 4 жыл бұрын
Bob: the start of the cupboard project is in video... somewhere ?
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
No, I didn’t film the beginning of this. It was not very exciting. Just milling lumber and making dados and rabbets, which I’ve done videos of before.
@ikust007
@ikust007 4 жыл бұрын
@@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking fair enough. Will you nail the back ?
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@ikust007
@ikust007 4 жыл бұрын
Bob: question I have to make a bird perch stand with 3 legs but not sure how to connect them to the post .
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I missed this question. Look up tripod table construction. They use a sliding dovetail. Best way to make a tripod type stand that I know of.
@ikust007
@ikust007 4 жыл бұрын
Bob Rozaieski Fine Woodworking have you made one ? Thanks for your answer btw!;)
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
ikust007 No I haven’t made one.
@ikust007
@ikust007 4 жыл бұрын
Bob Rozaieski Fine Woodworking ok . Will try . Not very fast one to make the though
@athmostafa2462
@athmostafa2462 4 жыл бұрын
What's the type of this plane ?
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Tongue and groove plane.
@athmostafa2462
@athmostafa2462 4 жыл бұрын
@@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking yep , I meant the maker ?? ist veritas ?? looks nice ??
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, sorry. It’s a Lie-Nielsen #49.
@athmostafa2462
@athmostafa2462 4 жыл бұрын
@@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking is there an American site can I buy it from ??
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking
@BobRozaieskiFineWoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, there are multiple, including direct from Lie Nielsen Toolworks. You might just want to Google Lie-Nielsen tongue & groove plane and see which retailers come up as I’m not sure who’s going to have it in stock and who can ship to you if you’re not in the US.
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