How to Make/Build a Lifter or Ionocraft

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A step-by-step guide to making a lifter/ionocraft, a small, very lightweight, triangular ion wind propelled device powered with a high voltage and substantial current power supply. This uses an aluminum foil skirt for the bottom electrode, a 30 gauge (30 AWG) bare wire for the top electrode and balsa wood for the support structure. The glue is cyanoacrylate. The means of propulsion is ion wind (also called ion cloud or electric wind.)
I also demonstrate some high voltage safety features, how to work safely with high voltage.
To see the lifter air flow very clearly, watch my "Lifter Voltage/Current and Smoke/Airflow Test Measurements" video:
• Lifter Voltage/Current...
To see "How Ion Propulsion, Lifters and Ionocrafts Work"
• How Ion Propulsion, Li...
See also:
"Star Trek Enterprise Model with Ion Propulsion added"
• Star Trek Enterprise M...
"How to add Ion Propulsion to Star Wars TIE Fighter Model"
• How to add Ion Propuls...
Watch my "Ion Wind Rotor" video for a slightly different design and some discussion about ion wind:
• Ion Wind Rotor
I also demonstrate this lifter/ionocraft in my "How to Make 30kV High Voltage DC Power Supply" video:
• How to Make 30kV High ...
For more about lifters, see:
rimstar.org/sdprop/lifter/lift...
For more about my homemade/diy power supply used in this video, see:
rimstar.org/equip/30kv_pwr_sup...
For how to make a high voltage power supply using a computer monitor, see:
rimstar.org/equip/hvgmon24kv.htm
And if you can't build a power supply then you can buy one. I've bought from here in the past. Just tell them what you're doing, they're familiar with lifters:
www.amazing1.com
Materials needed (see the video for the dimensions):
- aluminum foil, the same one use in your kitchen. Use the lightweight one, not the heavy duty one.
- bare, uninsulated very thin wire. It should be 30 gauge (AWG) or thinner.
- balsa wood 1/16" x 1/16"
- thread
- cyanoacrylate glue or krazy glue
For the power supply see the links given above.
The CGI animation of the astronaut was made using Blender 2.59.
To follow me on Twitter:
#!/RimStarz
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@RimstarOrg 12 жыл бұрын

Back in the day when more people were playing with lifters I recall at least one person who got a dirigible shaped helium balloon and attached a lifter to it with controls for tilting the lifter for steering. So the balloon was for the lift and the lifter was for the propulsion. Worked great. And I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks!

@joanemiles4194 5 жыл бұрын

*sponsored by SERN*

@merytan6660 3 жыл бұрын

stein be like

@charlesyoung8600 2 жыл бұрын

Its cern not sern.

@distrackonionfredrobishop2846 2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesyoung8600 its Sern mate

@flyhigh8073 2 жыл бұрын

El psy congroo

@Talearchive 8 ай бұрын

Im here cuz of stein too lol

@TheKingofRandom 11 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, this video is featured on KZfaq's suggested videos page!

@antiuniverse20 3 жыл бұрын

Hello grant

@jimmyw4288 3 жыл бұрын

Hiiiiii

@thekeyandthegate4093 3 жыл бұрын

Miss you bro

@PinkeySuavo Ай бұрын

@@thekeyandthegate4093 who do you miss

@HPYB 26 күн бұрын

@@PinkeySuavo the legend KIng of random passed away sadly

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Cool! It became very popular with more of the mainstream when MIT released a paper around a month ago about ionocrafts (which is what lifters are) and their efficiency. This video was embedded on a large number of websites since it was the only clear how-to-make and demonstration one out there. Thanks for letting me know, Grant.

@nskmda Жыл бұрын

*REAL* craft would lift itself. this POS won't move if it was attached 2 the power supply. RIP

@seb_gibbs Жыл бұрын

You said it works if connected to positive or negative? Which is very interesting, as it means its not Ions that provides power to the lift.

@kemware Жыл бұрын

Were can I purchase an HVG10 High Voltage Power Supply?

@modernlunacy4341 3 ай бұрын

@@nskmda Outside lasers propelling the object; Seems like it could be used in a variety of circumstances.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how many innuendos you can get out that part of the video with terms like discharge stick, balls, skirt, safe. I realized it as I was saying it but left it in anyway. Gotta have some humor. :)

@thecollector5887 5 жыл бұрын

Your attention to detail and safety is awesome. Thank you for the demonstration.

@unvergebeneid 10 жыл бұрын

Tinfoil, check. Wire, check. Wooden sticks, check. High-voltage power supply ..... dammit.

@DajaniMohammad 10 жыл бұрын

balls to touch check ?

@unvergebeneid 10 жыл бұрын

***** Dude, if that was supposed to be a way of hitting on me, you need a new strategy ;)

@MicahBurginGTVPO 10 жыл бұрын

Penny Lane It was a joke referring to his referencing the balls on his power supply.

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

Penny Lane Micah Burgin Yeah, I remember when I was saying that part while making the video that it could be taken differently than I meant it, but I left it in for fun. Can't be too serious all the time :). Penny, did you eventually find a power supply?

@unvergebeneid 10 жыл бұрын

RimstarOrg I didn't keep looking. I guess when I ever stumble upon a high-voltage power supply, I will get back to this.

@Salafrance 10 жыл бұрын

Nicely done. I'll have to try this when I finally have my flat sorted. Another project I'd like to try is a variation on this theme: Create a disc with a series of concentric wire circles. Power them such that they sum, centre to edge, but never exceed the breakdown voltage between adjacent concentric circles. Arrange a surface with a dense population of strong magnets below the disc such that there's a toroidal field, again concentric with the disc, with the field lines passing vertically through the body of the disc. The idea is to create a combination of magnetic and electric fields such that a Lorenz force acts on the air ionised by the circular electrodes, causing it to spin (concentric with the disc) and centrifuge outwards from centre to disc edge; in effect, creating a vortex. I'm curious as to how much aerodynamic lift you could generate in this way...

@AnimalChinz Жыл бұрын

Did you get your flat sorted?

@ravereviews6853 Жыл бұрын

@@AnimalChinzI was thinking the same 🤣

@AnimalChinz Жыл бұрын

@@ravereviews6853 😂

@justanormalfish4440 3 жыл бұрын

so this is how SERN used the LHC and lifter to make a time machine on the year 2036

@Paul20661 Жыл бұрын

yup why I'm here as well

@kawaiikurwa Жыл бұрын

el psy kongroo...

@ivan_fay Жыл бұрын

El Psy Kongroo

@CrispyClips69 Жыл бұрын

Shitttt you went back home for abit to aii? We about to think 2026 is the year to talk about 😂😂😂

@PsykoPathic Жыл бұрын

*CERN

@axelmego 10 жыл бұрын

Great, now i only need a microwave and a telephone

@danialhamilton7666 5 жыл бұрын

And to outrun cern

@youngkappakhan 5 жыл бұрын

And you also need to avoid detection by Echelon, you fool.

@krokobil12 9 жыл бұрын

I had such crappy math and physics teachers. I am not surprised how ordinary people build crafts u would never tought people could build outside an lab hidden for the mass. Thx for the video ❤

@SciHeartJourney 8 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of working with CRT TVs or monitors. You can feel the hair on your arms moving!

@DigGil3 11 жыл бұрын

When I built my first lifter I was having an hard time making the triangle ones like yours work, so I decided to build an hexagonal one because I had figured a way to use less wood per triangular section that way. I guess the more triangular sections, the less would (by comparison) is needed!

@paulneilson6117 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks KZfaq for censoring any recent posts of lifter building. Keep us in the dark, way to go.

@kajallison8896 3 жыл бұрын

Hahha

@greggroessger 9 жыл бұрын

Kudo's to your vid demo skills. Thoughtful, plain-english, down to earth, instructive, and time-compressed when appropriate. I first learned about ionic propulsion from a world book encyclopedia back in the '70's. at the age of 14. The DIY of a rocket motor hanging by the high voltage wire. Thanks for the blast from the past.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from! :)

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion, Paul. I've thought of that approach but that just gives the lift-off thrust, though I guess you could keep adding mass until it can't lift anymore. By the way, such a challenge was done back in 2003 and was the 100 gram challenge, to lift 100 grams in addition to the weight of the lifter. Do a search on google for "100g payload lifter".

@ArthurHollingsworth 10 жыл бұрын

This is pretty cool. I've never heard of an ionacraft before.

@kienanvella 10 жыл бұрын

years ago (they probably still do) popsci had advertisements for the plans for these - only $30 apparently. but they branded them as 'antigravity machines'

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

John Bump Yeah, the part that takes time is finding a suitable power supply. Once you have that, the lifter takes a half hour or so. Just make sure you try it in the dark. Seeing where the purplish corona is makes all the difference in getting it to work.

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

John Bump Oh, you need a much higher voltage and current. Mine takes off at around 25kV and 250microamps.

@vladokvk 10 жыл бұрын

Can I use 100kv AC? It is real problem to rectify it

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

Vladimir Knežević You need DC or pulsed DC. AC won't work because the ion wind will just keep reversing directions. It wouldn't get off the ground.

@eliavishal7933 8 жыл бұрын

Nice demo I find it extremely inspiring

@ThePizzadone 10 жыл бұрын

Alright, thanks so much!!!!!!! Seriously, you're a huge help. I'm attempting to see if it is possible to make ionocraft movements more controlled.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

I made the power supply that I use so it's definitely possible to make one. If you can still find an old tube style computer monitor then you can adapt that. I put some links in the description below this video to pages on my website where I show various options. And I'm glad you like the video! Thanks for watching!

@brandwarbs 7 жыл бұрын

The Steins;Gate VN brought me here.

@esrodrigoxd7260 3 жыл бұрын

Jajajajaj muajajajajja

@otakuking1302 3 жыл бұрын

Same here XD

@ntesquad 3 жыл бұрын

Same

@LimboJimbo 3 жыл бұрын

My name is Hououin Kyouma, muhahaha

@ashtentheplatypus 3 жыл бұрын

@@LimboJimbo Okay Okarin... smh

@samburema2119 5 жыл бұрын

Tanks for the instruction man i'm going to try this out

@spacepirateivynova 10 жыл бұрын

Just made one of these using coffee stirring straws which were lighter than balsa and won't immediately catch fire when I inevitably jack the power up to make pretty coronas and shorting arcs :)

@TheKingofRandom 11 жыл бұрын

Cool!

@Thecarverman 3 жыл бұрын

Can you please make an extra large one kinofrandom i like your page on fb videos are cool

@colegetting8345 2 жыл бұрын

@@Thecarverman that would use almost the amount a quarter of the power a nuclear power plant produces

@jontanguy989 8 жыл бұрын

"if you don't have balls like that to touch then you can always just touch the skirt..." couldn't help myself

@dave-d 7 жыл бұрын

Ha ha ha ha ha ...........! Zap! OOh!

@dontbescaredhomie3137 6 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the uber drivers handbook.

@andymanhoof5536 6 жыл бұрын

You were one year faster then me :P

@wernerisler5806 5 жыл бұрын

there was nooo other way to say this ;)

@firoxlion 11 жыл бұрын

Ah, I see. Thanks for filling me in so quickly, now I can actually learn the teacher something for a change!

@ParanormalExplorer 5 жыл бұрын

I learned about these in my late teens, early 20's in the early 2000's. Always interested me.

@mr.windowcleangrow8794 4 жыл бұрын

Good for you

@TheArchsage74 7 жыл бұрын

El. Psy. Congroo.

@andyhollar5620 6 жыл бұрын

TheArchsage74 steins gate bought me here too brother

@amu9993 4 жыл бұрын

@@andyhollar5620 STEIN GATE BOUGHT ALL OF US HERE

@hewhowaits8991 5 жыл бұрын

When you are currently playing Steins Gate and wonder what a lifter is, then watch it and let your imagination run to design some time machines blueprints... This too must be the choice of Steins Gate... El Psy Kongroo...

@DanaBidlake 8 жыл бұрын

Rim this has helped me. you tube has been a wonderful source of information. More so then I thought at first. thank you both. I have seen what I have needed to see and hear what I have needed to hear to build a flying pyramid. this video has made it a step easier. I am looking for a team of people to help me in their own smart ways. I want to build a mother Flying Pyramid. your welcome to come along.

@avidrandomer 10 жыл бұрын

Love the grounding stick!

@kajallison8896 3 жыл бұрын

Hahah

@wildcheri 6 жыл бұрын

El... Psy... Kongalee...

@mrbrightsidetf2 6 жыл бұрын

Almost nailed it, Lukako. Almost.

@bharathpuluru7050 9 жыл бұрын

how much voltage is needed to lift an avg.human? please reply me

@MikaelMurstam 9 жыл бұрын

bharath puluru it doesn't work that way. More voltage does not mean more lift.

@RimstarOrg 9 жыл бұрын

bharath puluru It would require at least a million volts but also with a lot of current. The ionocraft would also have to be around the size of a house and require protection to protect the human from the high voltage/current. It's not practical.

@saikumarreddysama5261 9 жыл бұрын

RimstarOrg oh! then how does satellite thrusters work?

@MikaelMurstam 9 жыл бұрын

No it could work with just 30kV. The voltage is not that relevant. You just need enough voltage to ionize the air. To prove this, just imagine a lifter running on 30kV. It has a thrust to weight ratio larger than 1. This means you could use a million lifters to lift something heavy, all running on the same voltage. It is the amount of ionized air that counts here. The amount of total thrust. Sure a million volts would increase the thrust, but you only NEED 30kV as a minimum

@RimstarOrg 9 жыл бұрын

sai kumar reddy Sama Some satellites do use ion propulsion with xenon gas as the propellant for moving around while in orbit. But they're not being lifted against Earth's gravity so the thrust can be much less and the acceleration is very small, so the satellite moves and can get up to high speed (if needed) over a longish period of time.

@eugeneleroux1842 5 жыл бұрын

Surely this warrants further research and development.

@Kartz-uz1nk 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for replying. I really appreciate it... honestly the science fair is really stressful and I want to get into districts.

@terradragon9192 10 жыл бұрын

"touch the balls..." LOL XD

@DuhDaDuh2 8 жыл бұрын

12:38 for the ladies

@kajallison8896 3 жыл бұрын

Hahah

@scotchandrew 10 жыл бұрын

That's great, thanks for the reply. Gonna have a look at your video on how to build a PSU.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'm glad you like my videos. And yeah, I knew even as I was saying it that I would get a lot of comments about it. It wasn't intentional but I left it in for the fun of it. Even I laughed inside as I realized what I was saying. :)

@x2thel 10 жыл бұрын

"If you don't have balls like that to touch, you can touch the skirt"

@bigfoxki 9 жыл бұрын

What!What kind of sorcery is this!

@ignatiusn9851 6 жыл бұрын

The magic of science😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂!!!

@chrisberg4952 6 жыл бұрын

Nice demonstration.

@PaulHDearCoolStuff 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the prompt response. For force measurements, how about tethering it with three threads (as you show), but fix the ends of the threads together and to a small mass (eg, a plastic washer). Then support the lifter on a plastic ruler so that the threads are almost extended, and rack up the voltage to see if it can lift the washer; then thrust ≥ mass of washer, at least. Ion Thruster Weightlifting Challenge !!

@kamekazi60 4 жыл бұрын

Who came here because of the Riddle episode of how planes will look like in 20 years??

@bonniemunene5163 4 жыл бұрын

Mee haha

@DazePhase 4 жыл бұрын

Same, lol.

@VegaHawk769 4 жыл бұрын

MythBusters episode

@callmebuffthighs6723 6 жыл бұрын

does anyone think this could be implemented into somebody's boots or something so they could fly around like iron man?

@raymondbivens5787 9 жыл бұрын

Never actually paid attention to how these are made before. It is so simple. Gonna make one. Got a flyback from an old tv for the high voltage supply and a driver to run it.

@RimstarOrg 9 жыл бұрын

Raymond Bivens Be aware, these need DC or pulsed DC. The high voltage AC output from a straight flyback won't work. The one I use has a tripler after the flyback which you can see here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/faulfpSAyb_ceJ8.html I recently tried my Cube power supply that has a flyback with a built-in diode as the very last stage but I suspect the current was too high and voltage too low. But it was suggested that I might be able to add a capacitor to fix that. Here's the Cube power supply kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7F2m6WHy9bKdKs.html and my recent Google+ post about my lifter test with it plus.google.com/116395125136223897621/posts/4MeNfcWoACN

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

I haven't tried a circular shape but I've seen others who have. It works.

@saucersource 8 жыл бұрын

Nikola Tesla had a DC voltage for lifting and flying for his anti gravity ship and did not tell Edison

@cujoemblakka1041 6 жыл бұрын

saucersourc

@jimedgar6789 6 жыл бұрын

Of course he did. Everyone has one of those.

@suoppsdn9751 8 жыл бұрын

Do you have any suggestions or opinions why they lift? I know the MythBusters said it was because the wire is vibrating so much it causes lift because it was vibrating the air around the lifter, but somehow that doesn't sound right to me. They tried to prove their point by placing the lifter in a container that was vacuumed of air to prove it wasn't defeating Gravity, and it didn't rise in an atmosphere vacuumed of air. Correct me if I am wrong. What is at rest will remain at rest unless acted upon by another force, and what is in motion will stay in motion unless acted upon by another force. By removing the air they cut out the force of buoyancy lifting something that was at rest. Before they removed the air the force of buoyancy help lift the lifter. Am I right or is MythBusters right?

@RimstarOrg 8 жыл бұрын

+Steve Rabon Really? That was Mythbusters' theory? I'm surprised. It's just plain old ion propulsion. Here's my explanatory video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zpd2a7lmrs6mZZ8.html. And here's a smoke test video I did a while back kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grV3dMSAx9myZJs.html.

@suoppsdn9751 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks; why didn't it continue to move in a place that was vacuumed of air? Shouldn't it had moved without the absent of air?

@RimstarOrg 8 жыл бұрын

+Steve Rabon Because it's basically a jet. It takes air from the top and pulls it down. That's the action. The reaction is that the lifter moves up. If you watch my ion propulsion video that I gave a link to you'll see that air is needed. You can even see the moving air in the smoke test in the other video I gave a link to. I didn't see the Mythbuster episode so I can't speak about what they said.

@suoppsdn9751 8 жыл бұрын

OK so it ionizes the air?

@RimstarOrg 8 жыл бұрын

Steve Rabon Did you watch either video I gave a link to?

@eXcaliber8888 11 жыл бұрын

This might be the technology of the future !

@PaulHDearCoolStuff 11 жыл бұрын

Yes, that was the idea - add mass until you find its limit. Time to google this 100g lifter you mentioned - thanks! Paul.

@dragonzbw 7 жыл бұрын

But he's a guy

@radicalshrimp 3 жыл бұрын

El Psy Kongroo

@aidanwansbrough7495 4 жыл бұрын

This was really interesting, great tutorial, thanks :-)

@rodrigolimacdfh8780 2 жыл бұрын

Revolutionary bro and amazing :)

@2Sneaky4You 7 жыл бұрын

Does anyone else find his commentating dirty? "if u don't have balls to touch, just touch the skirt"

@davidbean5807 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah how'd he ever guess that if you don't have balls to touch that you'd probably have a skirt? May have been a freudian slip and unintentional, but I got a laugh out of that as well.

@Happy63funny 6 жыл бұрын

2Sneaky4You get a life.........

@Name-js5uq 5 жыл бұрын

Balls aren't dirty and neither are skirts, enough said.

@twistedyogert 9 жыл бұрын

I wonder if that's how UFOs fly? :P

@smh9902 7 жыл бұрын

No, because you need air to ionize for an ionocraft to work. Space is a vacuum.

@bobbobson5595 6 жыл бұрын

Br!an Delta V Internal Xenon Tanks

@attepitkanen7358 10 жыл бұрын

Nice project, could try out this someday.

@vidsfsx 9 жыл бұрын

always good stuff sir! keep up the good work

@Truthlessher086 3 жыл бұрын

El...Psy....Kongroo.

@KyraNyan 2 жыл бұрын

Can someone explain me this with cute girls?

@matt_eae Жыл бұрын

mic-chan and cro-chan

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video. The two ozones are the same, O3, but I guess the location is the problem. Maybe we should be flying lifters up where the ozone layer is located.

@markprendergast2365 Жыл бұрын

I felt a strange urge to sneak up behind you and yell BANG !! lol ,,, thanks ! great vid !

@DJ-RASH 2 жыл бұрын

Simply AMAZING !!! Thx!!

@tu-95turbopropstrategicbom55 10 жыл бұрын

Totally my next science fair project

@rodrigolindemberga 8 жыл бұрын

parabens! ótimo trabalho.

@inspiringengineer 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks - fancy a control line model - a 'lifter' powered plane going around and around with power flowing down the control lines - tricky for all sorts of reasons!!

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

I played with that idea with my ion wind rotor. I tried a few different lengths and widths and shaped them like an airfoil. With that design there is only one electrical connection to it so I was able to connect through a metal shaft and it was free to rise on the shaft. I didn't film those specific tests since they didn't work out but you can see the rotor in my "Ion Wind Rotor" video. I put a link in the description below this video in case you're curious.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

I suspect you're remembering Major de Seversky's ionocrafts. From the videos and photos they still look pretty lightweight though. Before these triangular lifters came along I made one using aluminum fly mesh instead of the skirt. It worked. Though it looks like de Seversky used a bunch of sharp point instead of the continuous thin wire.

@nictheman144 12 жыл бұрын

cool, I'll check those out. yeah, that's what I've been wondering, whether there's some trick to getting these things to have onboard power. Do you know if the shape of the device has any effect on efficiency? I've seen parallel grids, triangles and hexagons - do you think there's an optimum shape?

@amirvakili8337 8 жыл бұрын

I am really thankful I am very search for making lifter

@bethrezen3000 10 жыл бұрын

great demonstration man thanks!!!!

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

It is. One pole of my psu is HV positive with respect to ground and the other pole is ground. I prefer to connect the skirt to ground since the skirt is closer to the table and the table is also ground. But it can be done either way. Theoretically, you get better results with the wire connected to positive, but the actual performance is hard to measure.

@ThePizzadone 10 жыл бұрын

Hey, this looks really interesting! Is there an easier way to provide power to the ionocraft? Do you need a home generator or is it possible to gather the energy with some thing like, say, a wind turbine? I also have a solar panel from a kit that I may be able to use, but its very small. Are there any risks involved with using the ionocraft?

@beckettremington5095 9 жыл бұрын

The term "lifter" is an accurate description because it is "not" an anti-gravity device; rather, it produces lift using the same basic principle as a rocket, i.e. from the equal but opposite force upward generated by the driving force downward, specifically by driving the ionized air downward in the case of the ionocraft. Much like a rocket or a jet engine.

@RimstarOrg 9 жыл бұрын

Richard Green Yup. You can find a more detailed explanation of how the ion propulsion works in my other video "How Ion Propulsion, Lifters and Ionocrafts Work".

@logego9437 10 жыл бұрын

can you put those things close to each other like in a WW pattern (Long side at the top, next long side at the bottom aso) or is there too much interference? You could then connect the power input for each of those to a controller. Add an acceleration and a gyro sensor to get the data you need to navigate the thing by switching the small lifters on and off. would love to try it myself but dont have the money for it atm

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

Glad to help. And cool. Let us know how it goes.

@EnglishTeacherBerlin 5 жыл бұрын

FANTASTIC!!

@PaulHDearCoolStuff 11 жыл бұрын

That's a very nice video, thanks! The thrust generated is clearly more than the weight of the lifter (?2g?) - but do you have a feel for how much? Also, how well (if at all) do these devices work at lower air pressures? Thanks!

@VictorRivarola007 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Could you please put annotations in your video translating the imperial units to metric ones? Thanks!

@realflow100 8 жыл бұрын

can you make a reasonable amount of UF low voltage capacitor with long sheets of aluminum foil and paper/something-similar. a cylindrical container to contain the capacitor with 2 holes on the top with bolts on them to attach wires or clips and wrap them around tight having them in the container with a oil liquid of some kind (optionally a bit of salt mixed) will it have enough uF to make a 3volt low current LED light up for some amount of time? and the size approximately of the completed capacitor will be about 9-10 inches tall from top to bottom and 2-3 inches wide rolled up? (like rolled into a swirl shape)

@siswandonoprasman 8 жыл бұрын

Good idea and very simple. Lifter system with electrostatic field dangerous for people and for the surrounding environment. Due to the extra high voltage wear.This is will generate free electrons/ions that can disrupt or damage electronics component or damage uP control. Except unless there is an electronics control system. That works with infrared /low laser beam or optocouplers. There must be a uP that works with a light sensitiv component system and circuit board wearing fiber optic. Actually the most sensible and is the system using reverse gravity or gravity inversion. For ex: Is to use the momentum of the centrifugal repulsion as a model gyroscope antigravity and so on.

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

It's really high voltage with high current too. The voltage need only be enough to create the necessary electric field across the given gap size. The current is what provides the electrons for ionizing the air (or takes them away depending on your polarity.) So 26kV which mine is supplying, plus more current would allow larger ones to fly.

@Bluefire4852 11 жыл бұрын

I would like to know if the toothpicks and the foil can perhaps be replaced with something that is stronger. I am trying to see for my science fair project to place an ionocraft on a plane and try to make it fly.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching it. In answer to your question, the conductor would only disintegrate, or melt, if the current flowing through it was large enough. The current in this case is too small, even though as you point out the conductor is thin, so that doesn't happen.

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

You can buy a power supply, or you can use an old computer monitor, one that doesn't have power saving features. There are links in the description below this video for both those. Some of the very first triangular lifters actually used a very large Van de Graaff generator, one with a dome that looked to be around 12 inches in diameter, though I've never tried it myself or heard of anyone else doing it since.

@Explorer5557 10 жыл бұрын

I just remembered the ignition transformers on furnace oil burners would make another great power source for those not having junk CRT TVs and computer monitors cannibalize HV transformers from. The secondary voltage on the newer ones run about 17.5 KV. The older ignition transformers have secondary voltage that runs much higher. New oil burner ignition transformers run about $55.00 and very durable

@RimstarOrg 10 жыл бұрын

Putting some close to each other is ok as long as the structural requirements don't weigh too much. What I'd really worry about it the weight of the gyro sensor or whatever type is needed, making sure it safe from the ions and high voltage (which may mean more weight for structure), and how to communicate with the sensor. If it's a feed wire then that'll drag down on the lifter, if it's remote control then that's added weight. A lot has changed over the years. It may now be possible.

@technicalgforce 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Experiment

@keithkeber5655 8 жыл бұрын

This was great!

@FDroid01 Жыл бұрын

The green screen space background yessssss!

@comedyshane123 6 жыл бұрын

well demonstrated 👍

@jennarussell50 11 жыл бұрын

I have recently built my first lifter, but i only have 15kv. When I test it, there are small 'arcs' of electricity. Is this good or bad? should the wire closer to the aluminum foil (i started with 3cm apart, but have moved it down to around 1.5cm)? Thanks!

@Bianchi77 Жыл бұрын

Nice video, thanks :)

@WARMONKEE 11 жыл бұрын

One question. You said you could smell the ozone and I wanted to know if there is any danger to breathing or being exposed to ionized air. Great video! Thanks for the info!

@RimstarOrg 11 жыл бұрын

If you're getting arcs then the wire should be moved farther from the aluminum foil. Mine are 3.5cm at the closest. Also try playing around with the wires that lead to the lifter. Arrange them so that they don't restrict the lifter from lifting up. You can lift the lifter by hand to get an idea of if they're holding it down. Also, it has to be as lightweight as possible. Mine are only around 2 grams. 15kv is a little low, but don't give up yet.

@truthhurts7624 5 жыл бұрын

Very smart a few things missed but great job

@IronSkiesBlk 11 жыл бұрын

Hello RsO, I have some questions as well as a hypothesis .My questions is that based on the top wire used 30 gauge (+) determines the rate of ionization around the field between the foil and the (+) wire, while the ground act as the direction of the flow.Second. if I were to wrap a denser wire as (+) and have smaller wire leading down to the foil switching back and forth pos to neg down to the foil. would that speed up the directional flow without increasing voltage while making a mag field