How to Make Steel Wool and Vinegar Stain

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DIY PETE

DIY PETE

8 жыл бұрын

Learn how to make Steel Wool and Vinegar stain to stain wood and give it an aged look. DIY Pete walks you through the steps in this video tutorial and there's more info, photos, and techniques on the blog.
For more info, project photos, and downloadable plans check out:
www.diypete.com/SteelWool
One of the most frequently asked questions that we have gotten is how to make the steel wool and vinegar solution that can be used as a wood stain. For this week’s video we wanted to walk you through this process, in real time, showing exactly what you need to make your own wood stain. This is very simple, doesn’t take long, and only costs a couple of dollars to make.
Add Steel Wool and Vinegar to a Mason Jar
The first step in making your DIY Steel Wool and Vinegar Stain is to add a pad of the 0000 super fine steel wool into a mason jar. Then add distilled white vinegar to the jar. You’ll want to fill it most of the way, do not screw the lid onto the jar. You’ll read why in the next step.
Let it Sit/React
Let the vinegar dissolve the steel wool for at least two to three days. With the vinegar solution you definitely want to leave the lid off, as it releases a gas that you’ll want to let escape from the jar. The mixture will get darker the longer you let it sit, but you can always dilute that dark concentrate with more vinegar later on.
Stir Together and Filter it
After it has been sitting and brewing for a couple of days, the steel wool should have risen to the top of the jar. We’ll want to stir everything in the jar together, with a stirring stick of some sort. Then we’ll filter out the bits of steel wool by pouring it through a paper towel or coffee filter into another, empty jar. It will be murky color, but after the next step we’ll achieve the nice amber tone we’re after. See the video for more information regarding filtering the mixture.
Let it Sit Again
You are so close to having made your very own batch of steel wool and vinegar stain, I can almost see the end result! :) We just need to be a little more patient and let the mixture sit for another few hours. Over the next waiting period, the mixture will continue to react or brew and will eventually become more of an amber color - that’s what we’re going for. Let the filtered steel wool and vinegar solution sit for another 6-24 hours, then move on to staining! Here’s a look at that nice amber color we’re going for.
Dilute if desired, then Apply to wood!
You can always dilute your mixture if it is too strong. Simply pour a little of the strong mixture or concentrate into a new jar and add distilled white vinegar to the jar. Grab some test scraps of wood to experiment with the staining. Oxidation will occur and the mixture reacts with the tannins in the wood to give it variations in color. The color you see when you initially brush it onto the wood is not the final color, let it react and do its thing for another few hours to see your final stain. It changes Fir wood to dark blues, greys, browns, and black. Pine, however will not darken much at all. After it’s been applied and has set in for a few hours, feel free to seal it all up with polyurethane.
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@francesstevens8789
@francesstevens8789 Ай бұрын
I’m back getting this formula again. I tried it years ago and the results was amazing. Now I have forgotten everything!! I love KZfaq for always being there with stored videos to help me when I need it!!❤️this works really well
@viciousaubergine
@viciousaubergine Жыл бұрын
Would have been good to see more of the finished product.
@frd3fadi
@frd3fadi 8 жыл бұрын
thank you . I use it and it's really nice
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Mohammad Juma Thanks!
@cdizzle1231
@cdizzle1231 4 жыл бұрын
So cool! Always amazes me how people come up with these sorta things
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@paulipip
@paulipip 2 жыл бұрын
This was a real "life saver" Was restoring a basement with flood damage and had a singular wall which was covered in old barn style wood and has been since the house was built in the 70's....So the wood has definite age...I had to cover the transition between the sheetrock and that wall with a new pine quarter round (not sure what happened to the old one...may have been painted)...And after a couple of days making the vinegar and steel wool juice...I put it on the quarter round and in a few minutes it looked like a piece of wood which could have been there for generations. (well except for the tiny holes from the pneumatic brad nailer lol)
@philipdonovan6510
@philipdonovan6510 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, informative video to help along with a swamp ash celtic themed electric guitar build I started. I'm trying to make it look a thousand years old so this technique obviously will be a great way to get it there. Now I'm interested in mixing the solution with varying degrees of tea coffee or both. and also doing those separately to see it there is a difference. thanks1 Nice video!
@lucaslingelbach9207
@lucaslingelbach9207 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video. Very helpful.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@michaelnowak4078
@michaelnowak4078 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT CHANNEL!!! GOING TO TRY THE STAIN ON A TABLE. THANKS!!!
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Cool! Good luck and have fun with the table project Michael!
@jeremyowens7560
@jeremyowens7560 8 жыл бұрын
To make it darker, one can use a tea solution prier to the Iron Acetate (steel wool vinegar stain). The tea solution increases the tannin in the wood and it is what reacts with the Iron Acetate.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Jeremy Owens Great tip Jeremy!
@danabeeproductions6212
@danabeeproductions6212 6 жыл бұрын
I put the tea on a couple of days ago. Looking forward to the process. Thanks Jeremy.
@Talletc
@Talletc 4 жыл бұрын
Prior
@jadelon1877
@jadelon1877 3 жыл бұрын
I know I am kinda off topic but does anyone know of a good website to watch new movies online?
@crewkarson9380
@crewkarson9380 3 жыл бұрын
@Jad Elon I watch on Flixzone. You can find it by googling =)
@cookiecrutcher312
@cookiecrutcher312 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I love it
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mstreech
@mstreech 8 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks 🙏🏻 😊
@bigpaul5528
@bigpaul5528 7 жыл бұрын
Pete, thanks for the great idea. I was worried about things falling into my jar but knew due to the gases you can close the jar. I came up with putting a latex glove over the top of the jar and cutting out the very ends of the fingers. If gas builds up it will inflate the glove until it gets to the ends of the fingers and release, and since deflated the glove hangs over the side, it prevents things from falling into the mix. I also am going to try a coffee filter secured with a rubber band to filter out the mix.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Great job Paul!
@leionheart4392
@leionheart4392 7 жыл бұрын
great job keep it up
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Leion!
@johnmitchell1614
@johnmitchell1614 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete, tried it on oak, and horse chestnut, wow! Best regards.
@shock80ey
@shock80ey 2 жыл бұрын
That looks nice on the cedar
@axeltheredpanda
@axeltheredpanda 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tutorial! I make and sell wands and I want to make one with an aged look and blood red runes lol this is perfect!
@martinblouin3639
@martinblouin3639 8 жыл бұрын
that's great! thanks!
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+martin blouin Absolutely, Cheers!
@AwesomeWoodThings
@AwesomeWoodThings 8 жыл бұрын
Cool tip!
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Awesome Wood Things Thanks for watching!
@danabeeproductions6212
@danabeeproductions6212 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. I had the general idea, but not the details. Building a coffee table from pallets and this answered my question as to WHY the steel wool was not leeching out. I had totally sealed it.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
Good deal! Glad ya got it figured out. Cheers
@owenelves
@owenelves 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, liked you video a lot and refreshing,simple instructions and well put together - i enjoyed the watch, i just like to add that i tried on different woods and one i was shocked about was white European oak (so much tannin in that wood) the area i covered with this concoction went totally the blackest black i'd ever seen, just wanted to share that with you as when did it i went mad and gathered so much different materials together and coated, it was a long time ago now but the oak had stuck in my head because of the drastic result. oh im also envious of your work shop too bud (lol) take care good vid
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Owen! Thanks for the info man, it is crazy how different wood species can change so much with the solution! Thanks for saying hi and for subscribing :) Cheers!
@dawnfinnerty
@dawnfinnerty 5 жыл бұрын
Nice one
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@heidihathaway9021
@heidihathaway9021 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video but this is so amazing and helpful. Would you have or know of examples of how the color would come out on hemlock, or pine? Desperately seeking help my daughter first time homeowner and we have no confidence in what we are doing.
@igorrozentul6262
@igorrozentul6262 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, I lake your explanation and I am going to try this after winter also I subscribe to your chanal and I hope to see more suggestions for us. Thank you have a good day
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Igor Rozentul Thanks Igor, and I really appreciate you subscribing. Cheers!
@SJ-gj7mx
@SJ-gj7mx 4 жыл бұрын
Good video
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TrangNguyen-ch3fp
@TrangNguyen-ch3fp 6 ай бұрын
I have Bamboo wood cabinet and going to try this, I hope it work on bamboo
@growfishgrow1
@growfishgrow1 7 жыл бұрын
Hey can I get the last two track names plz ;) great vids
@kirstenwikingazoulay
@kirstenwikingazoulay 4 жыл бұрын
My solution stayed clear for a lot longer and never turned that red color after filtering, BUT it definitely still worked to turn the wood grey. Just an FYI for anyone wondering if their solution is going to do the job even if it doesn't turn out exactly like in this video.
@kirstenwikingazoulay
@kirstenwikingazoulay 4 жыл бұрын
Also, I tried brushing on both the filtered and unfiltered solutions and got the exact same results. Filtering was pretty messy, so I might recommend skipping that step.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Trevinlink
@Trevinlink 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video Pete. I am building a table using 4x4s and the only ones I could find are treated. They are still pine just like the rest of the wood but will treated wood react differently or give a different color than the rest of the table? Thanks,
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Trevin! Yeah treated wood will take it differently. You'll want to do some experimenting to see how it does react and how similar it looks to the top. Cheers
@a1930ford
@a1930ford 7 жыл бұрын
If you want a darker stain than just vinegar and steel wool, add a dropper filled with hydrogen peroxide to the mixture. There is no real formula to it, so try it out and experiment. I use large mason jars as you did to mix up batches that are easier to use than putting it all into a pail. Leave the lid off while it is reacting as it does make a gas. Don't mix in a cold garage or cold area as the reaction takes forever when the mixture is cold. The mix of stainless steel, vinegar and hydrogen peroxide is best used within a day or two after the mix has reacted. You will get a pretty brown stain that looks very, very good. If you do it several days later and have done one board on one day and a few more days later, the color can become different between the boards. Pretty brown on the first done and a deeper reddish color on the later ones done. I am not sure how well this stain holds up in UV direct sunlight as I have not tried that yet, but I do plan to. Also, they make 3-4 different strengths of vinegar. Pickling vinegar. cleaning vinegar, apple cider vinegar and white vinegar. The white vinegar is the least acidic, but any of the different strengths will work with this mixture. I have only used 0000 stainless steel in the mixture combinations I have used so far. Not sure if it really matters on the type stainless steel used. I don't bother to strain the mixture, myself. It can stain your hands and it is not a pleasant smell when you get it on them. Dove works well to remove stain from your hands. I have not covered the stain with any varnish or protective seal. Show less
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@diamondbracelette
@diamondbracelette Жыл бұрын
Great advice
@bill-zy6dg
@bill-zy6dg 5 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Owens, yup there was a diy show I think 'the furniture guys' did this mix using rust. They explained that the mix reacts with tannins in the wood, hence your use of tea esp on low tannin stock, and also the use of peroxide to rust the steel wool (a1930ford). I've used it on diff woods, results vary. Also in the sun you will get fading, I've never topcoated, could block UV.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for chiming in!
@missmary2121
@missmary2121 5 жыл бұрын
@@DIYPETE Hi Pete! I just used this steel wool/vinegar mix to stain some cedar wood for a mini deck project. My son just got some buttercream frosting on it, and i tried to wash the wood with soap and a brush and hot water but it's looking like oil stain. I'm so bummed because this project too me such a long time to complete. Do you any recommendations on how I can get this stain off? Should I sand the wood and restain? Please let me know if you have any ideas. Thank you so much!
@missmary2121
@missmary2121 5 жыл бұрын
@@DIYPETE ps. Thank you!!!
@shanewilson765
@shanewilson765 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Do you have to vent it when storing it also?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
Venting is a good idea. Cheers!
@falfas55bgas
@falfas55bgas 4 жыл бұрын
Best effect is when used on interior doug fir. That is Doug fir from Idaho, Oregon etc. with small knots and a combination of sapwood and heartwood. You get really cool colors that look natural. minerals in the wood also affect the color I think.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@falfas55bgas
@falfas55bgas 3 жыл бұрын
@@DIYPETEI let the steel wool/vinegar steep for 1 day, but 2 days is ok usually too. I also recommend diluting the concentrate with water. I wish I could send you pic of what it looks like on interior doug fir. I'm on facebook as Brad Baber in Joliet, IL.
@jennyhansen4100
@jennyhansen4100 8 жыл бұрын
you can also use apple cider vinegar also or add perioxide or muranic acid
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Jenny Hansen Thanks!
@laurataylor7103
@laurataylor7103 Ай бұрын
Would work to stain sanded bamboo? And, what do you think about mixing it with cabbage or beet dye? Will water mess it up? What happens if baking soda is added?
@squarelevelplumb
@squarelevelplumb 5 жыл бұрын
this is the third video I have watched for three different products and all that any of them do is color the wood. Not do anything to affect the grain to really make them look weathered
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! This video was just on the steel wool process, but I use strong wire brush to bring out the grain sometimes when trying to make the look more weathered --- and will hit the wood with heavy chains, run a circular saw, use a small drill bit and hammer it a bunch to make it look like work holes, etc. Lots of options, hope you are able to find some videos to better describe that process. Cheers!
@squarelevelplumb
@squarelevelplumb 5 жыл бұрын
@@DIYPETE Thanks for replying. Good stuff. I have used ball peen hammers and screw lieing onn there sides and smacked with a hammer.
@notetoself5474
@notetoself5474 6 жыл бұрын
I use the same process . If it's too dark you can dilute with water also until you get your desired color.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@edumouchel1567
@edumouchel1567 6 жыл бұрын
Water will raise the grain, you will not get a smooth finish.
@notetoself5474
@notetoself5474 6 жыл бұрын
John hardware I guess if you're going for a old rustic look raising the grain can be a good thing?
@sethrockz420
@sethrockz420 28 күн бұрын
i tried the solution. its a bit tart but like some in the comments i added tea to it and it tastes just fine…
@jokerjules
@jokerjules 8 жыл бұрын
I've tried this before and it didn't work, but seeing this I now see the reasons why. I closed it and didn't leave it cracked open. I also never strained it. Thanks for the info on it!
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian Martinez You bet Julian! Good luck!
@benfordguitars
@benfordguitars 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian Martinez Try washing the steel wool before hand. Some steel wool has oils in it which protect the steel wool from breaking down. A drop of dishwashing liquid and a good rinse should do it.
@jokerjules
@jokerjules 8 жыл бұрын
benfordguitars thanks for the info. I will try that too.
@mchume65
@mchume65 2 жыл бұрын
I found that adding 1 to 3 drops of hydrogen peroxide after 2 or 3 days of brewing, will turn it a darker brown.
@teddytusen
@teddytusen 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete. :) Great video. I really like the grey-ish color in the sample you are holding at around 5.30. Is this before or after topcoat..? When you added the topcoat at around 5.00 it got a little darker than I would like Does the topcoat dry a little lighter? Greetings from Norway. :)
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+teddytusen Hi Teddy! I hope all is well over in Norway. What I was holding at 5:30 did not have the top coat of oil based. But -- a water based sealer will typically not darken it up. For example, I did the vinegar solution on this project and then a waterbased sealer. It has more of a grey look: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kMupf81htdbZm5c.html - let me know if that helps. Cheers!
@yellowcat1310
@yellowcat1310 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIYPETE would have helped if you would have actually shown us the wood after you stained it.
@igorrozentul6262
@igorrozentul6262 8 жыл бұрын
sorry I just forgot to ask you about if this gives a protection for wood as well?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Igor Rozentul It does not protect the wood. I'd recommend sealing it with a polyurethane.
@davidletz9123
@davidletz9123 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete... so far no one has asked about the odor. I have not tried this yet, but would be interested to know if there is a long-lasting vinegar odor from the work piece afterwards.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+David Letz Good question David and the simple answer is no. When you're mixing this all up there is definitely a lingering vinegar smell in the air, but after the couple days of brewing, that tends to fade. Once it is finally ready to be applied to the wood, there is virtually no smell whatsoever. Great question!
@valpfeiffer812
@valpfeiffer812 7 жыл бұрын
Would this product work to restore pine window sills that are water stained, sun damaged, etc. - assuming one would have to prepare the wood by sanding first?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Hi! You'd first want to sand the water stained / sun stained window sills as you mentioned. You could then use the solution if you are wanting to get an aged look. ( I'd recommend testing on a scrap piece of wood if you have the option ). -- You'll want to seal the wood afterwards which will change the color of the wood after the solution has been added. Best of luck!
@joshstead6078
@joshstead6078 8 жыл бұрын
Could you add colour to the mix with food clouring? I'm curious about adding a little blue to it for a guitar
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Josh Stead Hi Josh! I've played around with green food coloring before. It sort of worked with a really really small batch - but it was a pretty faint green. They do make blue pigments that are going to give you a good blue if you are interested. But it never hurts to do some experimenting with food coloring or paint either :) amzn.to/1TuFvnE
@rockstarguitareffects
@rockstarguitareffects 4 жыл бұрын
@@DIYPETE what could you add to make it more grey/black?
@jdemena
@jdemena 7 жыл бұрын
Quick question- how do you suggest storing these? Can you? I made more than I needed for my sign and was hoping to save it for the future.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
A glass mason jar. I've stored for multiple months with success. Have vinegar to dilute it as needed.
@bill-zy6dg
@bill-zy6dg 5 жыл бұрын
Lotta comments on the mix staying clear, you need iron oxide I guess, try using rusty steel.
@juliabenevides4065
@juliabenevides4065 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete! Great video! Would this solution work on oak veneer that’s been stripped? I stripped a very dark stain off a dining room table down to the veneer, and although it’s gorgeous as it is, I’ve been told that veneer doesn’t take stain very well (?). I really want to give it more of a grey wash, driftwood look without having to paint it.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Julia! You'll want to experiment a bit. You might also look at using a stain and diluting it to get a weathered finish --- vinegar stain is very unpredictable so testing is always a good thing to do.
@titianarasputin
@titianarasputin 3 жыл бұрын
this should work well on a veneer, because this method is not a stain. you are not adding color to the piece. you are causing a chemical reaction in the wood which makes the wood turn darker. notice how it went on clear, and then darkened over time?
@Moostery
@Moostery 7 жыл бұрын
I have a big jar full of rust vinegar I use as a rust removal bath. I guess it has a second use now too, Staining wood.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Cool! Cheers
@busviqc
@busviqc 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete, I was wondering if the solution is food grade. Can I use it for a bowl or a spoon for example?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
That's a good question. I'd say the vinegar is fine - but I'm not sure the steel wool in it would be. You basically brush it on -- after it is done reacting and dry you could clean it up well with soapy water etc and then seal or finish. -- Not sure if it would be food safe or not so that will be up to you if you want to give it a whirl!
@erikiacopelli451
@erikiacopelli451 8 ай бұрын
How long will it last? Can I make a big batch of it n store it for months or yrs? Or should I mix it only a few days before I wanna use it?? Tu
@4frem
@4frem 6 жыл бұрын
Will this work with wood filler? I did my floor this way and need to use wood filler in a small area but it did not take. Any suggestions?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin, it will not work with wood filler. It has to have tannins in it for the solution to react with it. Woods have tannins and the filler would not. You might do a dab of paint or possibly stain on the filler to help it blend.
@didasinan9669
@didasinan9669 5 жыл бұрын
Gpod job How about darker wood dark chestnut to get blue shade?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! I am not sure how to get a blue shade but agree that would look neat!
@CReidKIN
@CReidKIN 6 жыл бұрын
I have an old china cabinet of my grandmother's which I started sanding off the original stain, but the old stain is seeped into the wood in some locations, would the steel wool and vinegar solution work as a refinishing option?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
Hi there! Steel wool and vinegar is an option if you are okay with a rustic look. However it reacts differently with various types of wood, so you never know exactly how it will look. Stain will be a safer bet for consistency. But if you can test out the vinegar solution on the underside of the cabinet, I'd give it a try and see how it looks!
@csv1971
@csv1971 8 жыл бұрын
Pete Is there some way that we can get pine to react or turn grey / dark??? Have heard of tea and coffee pre-treatment... Was it something you could show in a video??
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Claus Svendsen Hey Claus, I've used a real strong mixture and gotten some dark browns before, but not a grey on pines in my experimentations. Trying out tea, coffee, peroxides, etc might be worth looking into. If anyone reading this has ideas for Claus please chime in!
@csv1971
@csv1971 8 жыл бұрын
+DIY PETE Thanks for your reply,,,I hoped that you maybe could make a followup video to show some different ways using Pine,,, Pine being a very cheap and very available material....
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Claus Svendsen Hi Claus, I'd love to make a follow up video and will try to at some point. I agree it would be a great follow up. Slammed with other filming and traveling at the moment but will have to do a little experimenting when I can:) Thanks so much! - Pete
@maziamini9604
@maziamini9604 Жыл бұрын
I unintentionally made my gun stock black, is there any way to remove this stain that resulted from vinegar and steel wool ? Thanks
@vancehamilton1934
@vancehamilton1934 7 жыл бұрын
I used this solution for the first time on the farmhouse coffee table and it turned out great. Now I'm building a farmhouse dining table and I find my solution has turned a redish color. Is this normal? Does it affect the tannins differently?
@conradhusky9725
@conradhusky9725 5 жыл бұрын
The process is called "Ebonizing" the wood, the vinegar/wool solution (iron acetate), reacts with the tannins in the wood causing them to turn dark. Certain woods have more tannin than others, the more tannin in the wood the darker it will get. Woods like Oak, Walnut and a few others are higher in tannin than say Pine so they'll turn almost pitch black, where Pine has less tannin and will turn a more brownish color without adding more tannins. To add more tannins to darken the wood you can brew a strong tea solution, like 10 tea bags to a 1-1 1/2 cups of water. Apply the tea solution first, then when the wood is still damp (but not soaking wet), apply the vinegar/wool solution and it will darken the wood, and to get it even darker you can apply a second coat of the tea solution. Be sure to do a couple of tests on some scrap boards to get the color/consistency you're after, before applying to your project.
@dammitbobby283
@dammitbobby283 6 ай бұрын
Use a white cotton sock as a filter.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 5 ай бұрын
thanks!
@usefullsw
@usefullsw 2 жыл бұрын
I used the same method as you, except I used #000 steel wool. It took almost ten day to get the same dark amber liquid.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard many variations in time and length. Glad it turned eventually for ya.
@usefullsw
@usefullsw Жыл бұрын
@@DIYPETE I am amazed on some woods how the fast the treatment takes effect. Sort of follows the brush across the wood. Does raise the grain substantially however. Thanks for sharing. Good trick to have in my bag of woodworking tricks.
@FBMRR
@FBMRR 2 жыл бұрын
after straining the mixture i left it sit for 24 hrs.... something went wrong. it appears to have seperated. the bottom half of the jar was that clear green/grey color and the top of the water had a pinkish crust on it. when i stirred it up thinking it would blend, it didnt. it pink just flaked apart and settled at the bottom. did i let it sit too long?
@MrFarnhammer
@MrFarnhammer Жыл бұрын
Can I add red or blue hues to this? I've read "if using oil based stain, add oil paints to change the color, if using water based stain add water based paint" Where does vinegar fall on that spectrum?? Should I use water or oil based paint?
@callmesaul2980
@callmesaul2980 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete! What can I use to seal this? I was hoping to use an oil but I don't want to mess anything up. Let me know!
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! If you are trying to maintain as close of color to possible of the grey, then try a waterbased sealer. An oil base could look nice too, but it will darken the color. Do a couple test pieces if possible!
@andrewroberts8217
@andrewroberts8217 6 жыл бұрын
can you stain a butcher block counter top with this and what to seal it with any ideas
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
You can stain a butcher block counter top with this as long as you are sure to seal the countertop well after it is stained. To seal the countertop you can use any food grade sealer. I have had luck using Howard butcher block sealer for a similar project. Here is an affiliate link to that sealer amzn.to/2jub4sq Cheers!
@kalyaankumargogineni8523
@kalyaankumargogineni8523 6 жыл бұрын
Can we mix some pigments inti vinegar so stain color might be diff
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, you could definitely experiment! I have not done that before.
@charliewood4158
@charliewood4158 8 жыл бұрын
I was going to say it dose not work on white pine very well then you showed it but cedar looked real nice
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Charlie Wood Thanks for taking the time to check it out!
@bradytucker49
@bradytucker49 4 жыл бұрын
Would you need to treat the wood or anything like that after you stain it? Or will the wood hold up
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Brady! I do generally like to seal the wood after being stained. It really depends what you are building and where it will be used. Using a sealer can certainly change the color of the stain / darken it, so hopefully you'll still be able to get the look you are going for. A water based stain might be your best option for the most natural looking finish. Cheers!
@SueStyles
@SueStyles 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make the solution in a plastic container or does it have to be glass to work?
@Icanbacktrailers
@Icanbacktrailers 8 ай бұрын
Plastic is fine
@Number4lead
@Number4lead Жыл бұрын
How does vinegar treated wood glue up? Does it weeken the glue joints?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE Жыл бұрын
Just fine in my experience
@kristophermarshall4737
@kristophermarshall4737 7 жыл бұрын
Should you add a pre wood conditioner to the wood first, or add it to the bare wood?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Pre-wood conditioner is great to apply prior to a normal stain --- but I wouldn't recommend prior to the solution as it won't be able to react with the tannins as well. Feel free to do some experimenting.
@kristophermarshall4737
@kristophermarshall4737 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! I will give it a try with and without on some sample scraps I have to see what the outcome is. I am using cedar (not sure what kind as I bought it from Home Depot) and tried a Minwax Classic Grey stain and on the scrap piece I used, I used 2 coats and it didn't really give me the color I was looking for so I wanted to try this and see if I get a better result with this solution.
@claudemcvea1671
@claudemcvea1671 7 жыл бұрын
I used a very strong solution of stain and my "White Oak" is BLACK. I have washed it with straight vinegar and lightened it a bit. Any suggestions on how to lighten it even more? Much more? Thanks.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Claude, all woods will react differently and white oak has tannins that really react quite strongly with the solution. Was this on a sample that you were practicing? ---- Using whitewash ( or diluted latex paint really watered down ) can somewhat mask the darkness a bit with the lighter color which can cover the dark a bit and give some grayish/whitish lighter tones. --- And you can follow up with a sander if you'd want. Besides that I' don't have any great ideas on how to lighten it besides attempting to sand.
@scotyfilms
@scotyfilms 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know. I used it to silver grey up my whole Cedar cabin. It was amazing!! One gallon of vinegar to say, two regular fine steel wool pads Stir and set over night. Try it. Not siver enough. add more steel wool. If you get it right ; which is quite easy, you will get a color exactly like the natural sun bleached cedar color you are looking for. And, it will only get better with age. Too much wool and the Cedar goes Black. on Coastal BC that is.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for chiming in Scot!
@CaglarYurdakul
@CaglarYurdakul 5 жыл бұрын
Can this be applied to stain oak hardwood floors?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 5 жыл бұрын
You could look into it. Do some test pieces before hand though.
@susancolwell9187
@susancolwell9187 5 жыл бұрын
Hi would this work on an oiled cutting board. I have used food grade oil on it about three times
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Susan, you'd need to apply the solution prior to the oil. While the vinegar would be food safe, the steel wool would not, so I'd probably avoid this for a cutting board.
@susancolwell9187
@susancolwell9187 5 жыл бұрын
thanks so much Pete
@jennyhansen4100
@jennyhansen4100 8 жыл бұрын
can also add old coffee or black tea
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Jenny Hansen Great tip!
@NoahFrazee
@NoahFrazee 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete! I am building the farmhouse table and using the steel wool/vinegar solution on it. It is really dark on the base, but not really pulling out any color or grey on the tabletop like in your video. Any tips? Thanks!
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Noah, are you using pine, fir or something else for the top? It will react differently with each species. White pine and a lot of pines won't react a whole lot. While fir and cedar both will quite a bit.
@NoahFrazee
@NoahFrazee 8 жыл бұрын
+DIY PETE I'm using pine on the table top
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Noah, pine tends not to react as much unfortunately. To balance it out with the legs you might try a little stain (like special walnut (minwax). I'm wondering if the 4x4's might be fir since they are turning color like mine did.
@NoahFrazee
@NoahFrazee 8 жыл бұрын
+DIY PETE thanks!
@TheSireverard
@TheSireverard 7 жыл бұрын
What I've been told is that giving pine a pre treatment with strong black tea can give the wood the tannins it needs to react properly to the vinegar/steel wool solution. I'm going to try that soon on some Doug Fir.
@jonfarrell9053
@jonfarrell9053 7 жыл бұрын
I did this on cypress and when I put a polyurethane on it, it turned it to a warm brown tone almost like a special walnut color. Does this happen to you. I don't understand how to keep it gray. Do you find this happens with different species of wood and which ones do you find keeps a good gray color after apolyurethane
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Jon! It will vary with all types of wood, turning some red, some black, etc. So it really depends. --- and some cedar turns grey -- and if you use an oil based sealer it will look brown - but a waterbased sealer can keep the grey tones. -- Cedar works the best in my experience for getting greys
@Islandcandies5963
@Islandcandies5963 2 жыл бұрын
used steel wool from Dollartree and distilled white vinegar but after 4 days, it has not changed color in my mansion jar. What am I doing wrong?
@biglouie9547
@biglouie9547 6 жыл бұрын
Would a water based poly be ok to put over it for a finish or will it change the color
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
A waterbased will change the color very little in comparison to oil based. I like this option to keep the wood more of the grey color.
@biglouie9547
@biglouie9547 6 жыл бұрын
DIY PETE , I put water based poly on and it turned green kind of like a treated wood color. So now I have problems. Only put it on the bench I made not the table. Been trying to sand the vinegar stain off the table but it ain't working 2 good.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
Hi K! Sorry to hear it didn't turn out as you wanted. It varies so much with each type of wood etc, so I always do a test piece. Best of luck getting that straightened out.
@dustitrusty5546
@dustitrusty5546 5 жыл бұрын
What woods can I use to get a gray tone?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! Cedar works the best in my experience.
@vernonhenshaw3089
@vernonhenshaw3089 7 ай бұрын
You boil the vinegar on the stove and take it off the stove you take your steel wool put in the jar first the more steel wool the darker it will get so what do you want to gray stain put Les steel wool and take it outside horror the vinegar in the jar and you will get a lighter gray stain
@lancehargitt9464
@lancehargitt9464 2 жыл бұрын
I found that even very small amounts of steel wool will produce a good stain. Be careful, every type of wood dyes differently. Spot test your wood before finishing your work.
@kevinsadventures3884
@kevinsadventures3884 7 жыл бұрын
i have had a jar of this sitting outsidr on the porch for 4 days now and it has not turned any colors. any idea why? i put 0000 steal wool and filled the jar with distilled vinegar and nothing. the wool has just desingrated.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Have you tried stirring it up? -- You might try brushing a bit on some wood and see what it does. It should have some sort of reaction with the wood still
@Biselflopenhimer
@Biselflopenhimer 7 жыл бұрын
How do I keep it from flash rusting on the wood?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
I'm familiar with flash rusting on metal projects but what exactly are you referring to with it in regards to the reaction with the wood? Thanks!
@MsMotoconcho
@MsMotoconcho 6 жыл бұрын
I'm making a headboard. The 2x4s I'm using are turning gray and look perfect. My 1x6s are turning a cedar-y color. Any idea why this is happening and what I can do about it? TIA
@thedetailguy0512
@thedetailguy0512 6 жыл бұрын
MsMotoconcho are you using two different species of wood? I’m worried about such a thing. Yellow pine vs white pine vs Douglas fir. Which is why I’m being certain to use all of the same species of wood for my projects.
@MsMotoconcho
@MsMotoconcho 6 жыл бұрын
Michael hmmm, the issue I was having was with pine, but I'm not sure which it is. I did end up working it out. I used the vinegar/steel wool mix and I also mixed a dark gray water based paint and watered it down. Let it dry and then used some white paint randomly. Let that dry and did some uneven sanding, then did two coats of satin polyacrylic over it. It came out perfectly. Looks like old beat up hardwood. Thank you for your response. Btw, the stain I mixed made a gorgeous ebony stain after it sat for a couple more days.
@benfordguitars
@benfordguitars 8 жыл бұрын
There is one important step that was missed. You should wash the steel wool with a drop of dishwashing liquid to remove any oils from the manufacturing process. After washing you need to rinse the steel wool to remove any soap residue.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+benfordguitars Great tip Ben.
@jennyhansen4100
@jennyhansen4100 8 жыл бұрын
+benfordguitars no do not wash the steel wool it makes it harder to break down. Try not to even touch the steele wool with hands due to the oils
@benfordguitars
@benfordguitars 8 жыл бұрын
+Jenny Hansen Jenny in my experience, every time I have not washed the steel wool it did not break down. It wasnt until I started washing it the last 6-8 times that it worked. The oil from the manufacturing process needs to be removed. I get complete breakdown within 2-3 days as opposed to never when I didnt wash it. STEVE
@Goose8219
@Goose8219 6 жыл бұрын
It’s been two years but I agree with the wash how ever I took a small shop fan too dry the wool fast. I left them out once too air dry and they became a lil rusty. Still not an expensive project with great results. Pete you is the Man brother
@CynergyDiva
@CynergyDiva 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben I didn't know about that
@JC-ig4xy
@JC-ig4xy 7 жыл бұрын
Does the steel wool need to be #0000? I've seen a lot of people using #0000 but I have some #00 leftover. Will that work just as well?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Hey James! I've used others before with success.
@leeemmons7083
@leeemmons7083 4 жыл бұрын
It just takes longer to dissolve
@CynergyDiva
@CynergyDiva 6 жыл бұрын
I found I get a much darker stain with cleaning vinegar. It has 10% acid versus the 5% that regular white vinegar has.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@elizabethcortez82
@elizabethcortez82 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete. Do you know how to remove this steel wool and vinegar stain? Mine turned out way darker than I expected and I need to change it.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Elizabeth, sorry to hear! It will react different on all species of wood. As for removing -- the only way I know is to let dry completely -- then sand away. I wish there was a better answer, but that's what I've done before. Definitely experiment on scrap boards if possible with this stuff since it reacts differently with tannins in the wood. Cheers!
@JAG1762
@JAG1762 6 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Cortez same thing happened to me on a table top. I didn’t like the stain at all. I purchased wood bleach from Woodcraft to lighten it. And I was quite surprised at the beauty that surfaced so I kept it and put 3 coats of polyurethane on it.
@timodebeer5146
@timodebeer5146 3 жыл бұрын
I found out today how to do this on a alder guitar body. The first result was too much grey for my liking. I was looking for the ‘in-between’ look. After some research I bought something that is named ‘oxal water.’ It is used to make weathered(grey) wood like new again. It is easy to use and I was able to get the look I was looking for! This comment might be 3 years late but I could not easily find a way to reverse this process on any video. So I hope this is helpfull to anyone!
@gregbrown7405
@gregbrown7405 7 жыл бұрын
have you tried brown vinegar?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 7 жыл бұрын
Not yet!
@matthewmcdevitt7767
@matthewmcdevitt7767 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve actually had mine sitting in the vinegar for days and it’s not changing color. Any tips?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, I'd try it out despite it not changing color yet. It will most likely change the appearance of the wood still.
@edaaa926
@edaaa926 Жыл бұрын
Would it be safe to use for staining rifle stock, would it damage rifle (iron) will it rust when i assemble it?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE Жыл бұрын
Hi! I wouldn't get it on the iron and would definitely try a test board of the same type of wood as your stock. It is somewhat unpredictable as to how it will react. So a regular stain might be best for your project.
@edaaa926
@edaaa926 Жыл бұрын
@@DIYPETE Actually i tried it on rifle stock and it came ou lt perfect, there is no rust i just wiped iron parts with WD40 (i was not able to dissasemble rifle) but thanks anyway.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE Жыл бұрын
Great to hear. Bet it looks awesome!
@Firstneko1
@Firstneko1 6 жыл бұрын
You can just put some ground up charcoal in water. Vinegar is just diluted acid. It breaks down the steel wool and what your left with is just carbon and water.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
I've never tried that but I'll have to experiment with it and see the effects and how it would react with the tannins in the wood. Thanks!
@diamondbracelette
@diamondbracelette Жыл бұрын
But would this be durable for exterior use?
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 10 ай бұрын
I doubt that would work. Without the acid, the tannins in the wood will not rise to the soiface
@Firstneko1
@Firstneko1 10 ай бұрын
@@coppulor6500 I do not know what to make of your spelling lol. You could very well be right. However, I do not know how much acid would be left in the vinegar after reacting with the steel wool. Either way, I guess you can throw a little bit of vinegar in with the water and carbon to play it safe.
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 10 ай бұрын
@@Firstneko1 meant "rise" not "tise". I corrected it. I left "soiface" alone - that was intentional because amuses me 😌
@lindsaytope3929
@lindsaytope3929 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use this stain on wood that has paint on it? Would sand paper help?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! You would have to remove all of the paint using sand paper. The stain won't be absorbed otherwise.
@hearttheart9942
@hearttheart9942 Жыл бұрын
What happens if the still world does not rust? It's from home depot . Is it really aluminum
@stevenjames191
@stevenjames191 6 жыл бұрын
i am painfully looking at my jar on a daily basis (3 days now) it has white vinegar and 000 wire wool in it and it is clear as water ?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Steven, even if it has no color I would try it out as there is a good chance it will still give the wood a patina.
@hili467
@hili467 3 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming the stain reacts with the tannins in the wood?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@lindaa5393
@lindaa5393 Жыл бұрын
I followed your directions and after 4 days, nothing happened. I used distilled vinegar and 0000 steel wool. What did I do wrong?
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 10 ай бұрын
Me too. Not only that, but I used 30% vinegar from home depot to speed things up and 0000 steel wool. Did NOTHING to the steel wool. So i guess its completely coated in oil etc and needs to be washed first. But then I added some old rusty nails etc and there was some reaction but not much. Definitely some bubbling going on and its getting darker but damn! Two weeks and I don't got no dark kooking iron acetate. Very annoying 🙄
@6917womr
@6917womr 7 ай бұрын
I followed this process in a plastic coffee container and my vinegar didn’t change colors. Please advise.
@gsikomanis
@gsikomanis 8 жыл бұрын
Hey guys. I've tried to make my own solotion, but the wool doesn't dissolved in the vinegar... I used a #0000 steel wool, and white vinegar, but doen't work :/ Any thoughts ?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+gsikomanis How long did you let it sit?
@gsikomanis
@gsikomanis 8 жыл бұрын
+DIY PETE i let it sit for about 3-4 days so far. But now that i saw your video once again, i cover the jar. Do you thing that the gas didn't let wool to be disolved ?
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+gsikomanis Maybe let it sit for a few more days. Go ahead and stir it. If it still doesn't turn colors at all --- try testing it anyways and see if it reacts at all with the wood.
@joshuaainsworth5440
@joshuaainsworth5440 8 жыл бұрын
I have made this several times and my mixture ends up turning clear after a couple of days. I also add a few cheap roofing nails to the solution, I've heard it speeds up the process. you can also add a couple of teaspoons or tablespoons, depending on how much you made, of hydrogen peroxide. it will turn it darker/red. even after doing that mine will still turn back to almost clear after a couple of days.
@DIYPETE
@DIYPETE 8 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Ainsworth Hi Josh, are you using normal white vinegar? I've made this a number of times and haven't had it turn clear again, I wonder what is causing that. Great tip on the hydrogen peroxide.
@jennyhansen4100
@jennyhansen4100 8 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Ainsworth muranic acid teaspoon helps. It doesn't need to change color to work. When you apply it you have to leave it until it dries completely before you know what color wood will turn
@kevinnoel4647
@kevinnoel4647 4 жыл бұрын
@@jennyhansen4100 how do you Mean it doesnt have to change color?
@jennyhansen4100
@jennyhansen4100 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Noel the mixture
@jennyhansen4100
@jennyhansen4100 4 жыл бұрын
Initially the wood will look just wet until dries
@user-kf8bu6fn9i
@user-kf8bu6fn9i 9 ай бұрын
Why is my vinegar and steel wool stain starting to turn powdery after a few coats. It did work at first but now this!
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