How to massage pectoralis major and minor (the pecs)

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Massage Sloth

Massage Sloth

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Is your pec massage limited to a few quick techniques as you work the arms? With the broad size and postural importance of pectoralis major, it may be worth while to give it some more focus. In this video, we review the anatomy of pecs major and minor, and then I demonstrate some techniques for engaging the fascia from several different angles.
0:00 Introduction
0:40 Pec major anatomy and kinesiology
1:50 Pec minor anatomy and kinesiology
4:05 Anatomy review with a client
5:10 Conservative pec massage techniques
7:30 More extensive techniques
10:30 Working with the sternum
11:40 Myofascial techniques
13:05 Working with the arm in flexion
14:30 Other hand tools to use
15:10 Working with pec minor
As you work with pec major, interact with the ribs, clavicle, and the deltoid region. Allow your work to range far and wide, because this muscle is hooked into a very broad fascial network (one that has a lot to do with head-forward and rounded-shoulder posture!). Make sure to follow it to its attachment site along the bicipital groove, where there's still some feel-good work to be done.
When working with pec minor, remember the vascular and nervous tissue that run under and through it (including our dear friend, the brachial plexus). For me, this means not worrying so much about trigger points or referred pain, because we are likely compressing big nerves. While they can handle some pressure, I find that angled, broader techniques are kinder when dealing with such areas. As with pec major, go from origin to insertion and beyond!
Let me know what you think. Did I miss any pec techniques that you love? Am I off-base by being so careful with pec minor? Tell me about it in the comments!
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@luciaivanovich9195
@luciaivanovich9195 5 жыл бұрын
You, Sir, are superior to 100 therapists I've watched. You are so knowledgeable, have excellent teaching skills, have a pleasant voice and are a joy to watch. Thank you for enriching our lives!
@MrStreetninja007
@MrStreetninja007 5 жыл бұрын
I'm in awe of your ability to know and pull all this info just from memory
@keithgroom4821
@keithgroom4821 9 жыл бұрын
You're videos are so good. You're an awesome therapist and teacher. You're a humble human being too which is increasingly hard to find among skilled health care providers. Don't ever lose your ability to be humble, chase it. That and outward love, chase them both. You're going to have a very blessed life. God bless!
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
Keith Groom I appreciate the kind words, Keith!
@h5y
@h5y 9 жыл бұрын
Another wonder video! I usually watch massage video's to help me relax before bed, but I find myself watching your video's during the day for pure enjoyment, and learning purposes.
@adv0914
@adv0914 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with Alex. I was just needing a good pec refresher and I appreciate the slow, learnable pace! Thank you!
@gdcompton1920
@gdcompton1920 5 жыл бұрын
I'm new to working as an LMT. I have a few clients who need pec work as they have a winged scapula. I like your videos and I knew you'd have one showing how to work this area! Thank you for this video. It has been very helpful!
@bestbuds419
@bestbuds419 8 жыл бұрын
this is why l love youtube! Your videos are fantastic, slow paced, you get an in depth look at the anatomy of the areas and the surrounding connective tissues that effects the described regions. We can always learn more about the work we do (l've been a theralist for 6 years), and l'm glad we have therapists like you willing to share. thank you Ian
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
+alex chatigny Thanks, Alex! I appreciate the kind and specific feedback. Sometimes I'm worried that I'm too slow-paced, but... that's what I'd want :)
@douglasjgallup
@douglasjgallup 8 жыл бұрын
No! Go slow! When I want to speed you up, I speed the video up to 1.25x :)
@anne-mariebordua
@anne-mariebordua 7 жыл бұрын
I second your comment! A-1 !!
@SR-dy5zm
@SR-dy5zm 6 жыл бұрын
Slow paced is good
@cflederman
@cflederman 3 жыл бұрын
Learning massage and my classes are currently on hold due to corona- these videos are really amazing! They keep me going :) Thank you!
@randyrandalman8234
@randyrandalman8234 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video and your channel in general. It's a great resource for me dealing with my recent back pain, understanding why its happening, and taking steps to address the underlying issues. I realized my pecs were super tight only after I started getting muscle knots and tension points in my upper back. Also realized I've had awful desk and sleeping postures for who knows how long. Prior to feeling the agony of my recent back pain, I wasn't even aware that this was a thing or why stretching is important - I apologize to my overworked rhomboids for my ignorance. Well better late than never - time to get massaging. Also it is alarming when I realized how many other people are out there with bad posture and tight muscles, and it's only a matter of time before the issues start popping up. Despite how seemingly prevalent it is, it's not something people typically talk about in day-to-day conversation.
@michaeldooley5331
@michaeldooley5331 9 жыл бұрын
I just keep coming back to your videos! Thanks.
@Laura_Birdy
@Laura_Birdy 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the videos! Will keep going back to view more. These are so helpful and refreshing!
@mlikeafox9365
@mlikeafox9365 8 жыл бұрын
Your videos are my favourite for keeping my skills sharp and adding more tools to my kit. Thanks for the in depth quality video, using proper terminology and also explaining the why of each movement. Keep them coming please!
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
+M LikeaFox Absolutely. Thanks for the kind words and specific feedback! If there are any topics you'd like to see me cover, I'd love to hear about it.
@juliagoldsmith8648
@juliagoldsmith8648 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Well explained and demonstrated well. Not everyone can teach, but you are a natural teacher. I do many of these techniques but I always learning something new. Keep up the videos we need good therapists and not just what I call cookie cutters. Thank you!
@elokubano
@elokubano 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome teacher! I have my anatomy exam soon and this is very helpful. Thank you!
@pinkfuzypoodle98
@pinkfuzypoodle98 9 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing. Thank you so so much for sharing! When my hands get fatigued from over working or doing the same techniques over and over I can always watch your video for some variations. Keep up what you're doing. It's truly inspiring.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
pinkfuzypoodle98 Great to hear! Let me know if there's anything you'd like to see in the future. Thanks for taking the time to comment :)
@debadev2179
@debadev2179 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great information. Looove how relaxed the client is he looks like he is asleep
@AllisonMontoya347
@AllisonMontoya347 8 жыл бұрын
love your videos!!! applying the techniques to my massages! seeing great results
@shelberz1
@shelberz1 5 жыл бұрын
Dude yer awesome. I have a new client with issues where i needed more training and boom there u are on my youtube search. So glad. Thank you thank you. P.s. We're taught asking for permission once on table is a no-no.
@isabellegrandidier5951
@isabellegrandidier5951 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I really appreciate your videos and am learning a lot. Many thanks!
@bellazella
@bellazella 6 жыл бұрын
Invaluable information - putting this into practise today and can't wait. Have wanted to massage pecs but Massage school didn't show us how. Tsk!
@deborahwigren7044
@deborahwigren7044 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with the comment about the pace of your videos. They are in depth, clear and easy to follow. You also have an amazing voice to listen to! : ) I came across your videos and right away subscribed and signed on with Patreon. THANK YOU for making them and sharing your knowledge with the rest of us. I have since incorporated many of the techniques you show and have had wonderful feedback from clients. I look forward to more videos from you.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Deborah! I appreciate the kind and specific feedback, and the patronage! So glad to hear that you've been having success with the techniques. Let me know if there are ever any topics you'd like to see me cover. Cheers!
@holosmassage6343
@holosmassage6343 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very detailed, slow paced videos Ian! You would make great teacher. Been watching these videos over and over again and applying the techniques with really good results. I am looking forward to the female version of the pec massage. It's great to get the all in one ( anatomy/ communication and draping tips/ techniques/ posture ect). Really appreciate your work, and so do my clients :)
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
So nice to hear :) I appreciate you taking the time to comment!
@bk-tcb
@bk-tcb 2 жыл бұрын
I love this! I'm so much more knowledgeable after this vid. I have a little bit of knowledge of Acupressure, but not as a professional. This really helps me help my hsb.
@ericafaganlmt
@ericafaganlmt 2 жыл бұрын
This is insanely useful! Thank you so much for sharing and I can't wait to see the techniques for women!!
@UniqueMasterpiece927
@UniqueMasterpiece927 9 жыл бұрын
Great video! Great teacher !
@panussayaengwall1950
@panussayaengwall1950 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, great video with clear explanation.
@RosieWilliamOlivia
@RosieWilliamOlivia 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all your videos! They are so helpful, informative, and well put together :)
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 7 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@pattybarton5705
@pattybarton5705 6 жыл бұрын
That looked like a fabulous pec massage. Thank you!
@saveahamilton3354
@saveahamilton3354 9 жыл бұрын
bro.. this is boss. I'm going to use the pec minor one in my session tomorrow!
@sillylilkoala
@sillylilkoala 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you fellow LMT! Very informative. :)
@carole.ronning9318
@carole.ronning9318 3 жыл бұрын
You are an excellent teacher!
@tscullion777
@tscullion777 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian! I find myself wanting to learn new things all the time and getting bored doing the same stuff over and over, I appreciate your teaching style, and all the variations, information, and techniques so much! Our job can be isolating after the chaos of college, and not having someone around to learn from or ask stuff is daunting. I always feel more confident again after watching one of your videos, and learning something new. thank you...again!!
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 7 жыл бұрын
Great to hear, Tori! If you ever have any ideas for a video or blog post you'd like to see, I'd love to hear it :)
@shelberz1
@shelberz1 5 жыл бұрын
Tori Scullion Perfect comment
@thesurrealist8588
@thesurrealist8588 Жыл бұрын
Who else has ADD and has to watch Ian at 1.5x speed? Lol. If I don’t I’ll fall asleep.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth Жыл бұрын
haha, I keep meaning to mention this for people who don't know it's an option. I've got nothing against speedrunning my videos!
@luck5022
@luck5022 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tutorial
@kaylaleboeuf9291
@kaylaleboeuf9291 8 жыл бұрын
I love this. You are awesome!!!
@leikilimaile2565
@leikilimaile2565 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, like going thru massage school again only better! Thanks!
@tortoisenhare
@tortoisenhare 7 жыл бұрын
Professor Ian, this one was great as well. Thorough yet concise info, never thought of a forearm being appropriate at the sternum but I love it...even freaked out at the end because I HAVE THAT TURTLE LAMP HA! Sorry for being a creeper...
@professorpenne9962
@professorpenne9962 4 жыл бұрын
I have a whacked out shoulder so along with that comes chest muscle tension. I started doing these massages best i can on myself and actually really helps. much rather that then a pain killer addiction.
@jayeetadas9362
@jayeetadas9362 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir, very helpful tutorial, lots of gratitude to you Sir
@justinhall4510
@justinhall4510 3 ай бұрын
I want this ❤ looks like it feels amazing
@PumpkinHeadJim
@PumpkinHeadJim 8 жыл бұрын
cool to see you uploading again!
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
Glad to be back!
@suzannethompson5895
@suzannethompson5895 5 жыл бұрын
you work like a Muscular Therapy Institute grad from Cambridge, MA. fantastic! I am
@pattiwiser388
@pattiwiser388 5 жыл бұрын
That looks really good
@KathleenHelenLisson
@KathleenHelenLisson 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@UniqueMasterpiece927
@UniqueMasterpiece927 8 жыл бұрын
love it! Thanx
@margaretsargent6930
@margaretsargent6930 Жыл бұрын
Very nice pec work...thank you
@TheTonyFigueroa
@TheTonyFigueroa 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation.
@beautiful1gg
@beautiful1gg 9 жыл бұрын
Thank You!!! I love you.U ROCK!!!!!!! .very informative :-)
@moonlightfitz
@moonlightfitz Жыл бұрын
So good
@08hanzy
@08hanzy 5 жыл бұрын
I’m considering this for my 2 hr massage session with a male tomorrow.
@benmacleod1951
@benmacleod1951 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your wonderful demonstrations Ian, I especially enjoyed your pre-massage massage for the hip, was very interesting, although I have taken something from each of your videos. I would be interested in your take on working with the scalene's some day. Thank you again.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
I actually have a video on the scalenes that you might like: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtxddLBq0pyrZZ8.html When working with them, I tend to avoid specific contact, instead staying broad, and maintaining that 45 degree myofascial angle. I work gently and slowly, as there's a lot of nervous and vascular tissue in the region. Thanks for the kind words!
@ewelinamudy9588
@ewelinamudy9588 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you ❤
@LindyKing
@LindyKing 9 жыл бұрын
I have already incorporated using some of these techniques! Can't wait for the ladies version Ian.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
Lindy King Great to hear! Thanks for the feedback, Lindy :-)
@themarquezfamily5677
@themarquezfamily5677 6 жыл бұрын
love it
@pensadoraapocaliptica4184
@pensadoraapocaliptica4184 5 жыл бұрын
Like it! Gracias
@vids1661
@vids1661 7 жыл бұрын
would love to a see a video on how to work on splenii capitis and cervicis! @massage sloth
@Ademanation
@Ademanation 7 жыл бұрын
I have impingment-symptoms in my left shoulder. Where you massage the arm, down under the shoulder, i can feel how stiff i am there and it hurts. Can Pectoralis Minor be bothering my shoulder with the impingment like symptoms?
@Boom1Chakra
@Boom1Chakra 5 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Many thanks ✌🏾💜🙏🏾
@cassmoffettlmte-cyt6655
@cassmoffettlmte-cyt6655 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos-you're a very effective teacher. I would like to support your teachings through Pantheon(?) I briefly saw it posted on another video---will you post the link please? Thanks again- these are a great help as I start my massage therapist journey.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it, Casonya! You can find that info here: www.patreon.com/MassageSloth
@elizabeth-ty3he
@elizabeth-ty3he 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant therapist. Can you demo this on a female. I find this work difficult when I need to negotiate around female breast tissue.
@nick27rocks
@nick27rocks 2 жыл бұрын
This helped a lot with my studies do you have one with a female client?
@jasonvega2121
@jasonvega2121 7 жыл бұрын
Is this good for breaking scar tissue? I strained my pec 10 years ago and it's never been the same. It's very easily aggravated
@LisaHarmonyfire
@LisaHarmonyfire 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos! It's really helping me gain more confidence in my practice. If you ever get to teaching any hands on ce courses, sign me up!
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lisa! I've got a mailing list for US massage therapists if you're interested: massagesloth.com/mailinglist/ So far I'm headed to Arizona this year, but I hope to have some other locations announced soon :)
@calamityviolet2535
@calamityviolet2535 8 жыл бұрын
How would you change your techniques with a man who has alot of chest hair? I have a client that always wants pec work and i find it very hard.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
+Charlotte W Great question! I actually find that most hairy men prefer for me to change very little. While it might feel like pulling hair from our end, most clients won't have any discomfort. The best way of navigating this issue is to have that conversation with your client as you work: "I'd like to sink in on your chest here. As I do so, let me know if it ever feels like I'm pulling your hair, okay?" If the client does end up having sensitive follicles, more oil may help, but you may have more success working through the sheet and doing compressive work.
@katherineferranti9133
@katherineferranti9133 9 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about body hair, please! I seem to have quite an active stream of male clients who need this work, but who also have LOTS of chest/should/back/neck hair. I find cream works better than oil, but it can be so hard to do effective work in this area without pulling hair. The problems of massage therapists...
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
Katherine Ferranti True story! And yes, this is a conversation that needs to be had :) You've found the main weapon, which is thicker massage medium. The only other grand piece of wisdom that I can offer is this: Most guys have relatively insensitive hair follicles, in my experience. Once I started having frank discussions about back and chest hair, I found that most guys didn't even notice, even if it felt to me like I was pulling it with a vengeance. Everyone else, what say you?
@altareggo
@altareggo 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent observation!! I have never worried about pulling on hairs since nobody has ever said "hey, stop pulling on my hairs so much", lol. Seems its not a big issue.
@mtinsfsd
@mtinsfsd 5 жыл бұрын
Use a cream instead of oil or gel. Many many do feel their hair being pulled and it hurts of course. One man told me he cannot get massages bc he has too much body hair. He evidently had had a bad experience once upon a time.
@melissamartin9615
@melissamartin9615 4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you asked this question, Katherine! I was torn between watching this client's facial expression to see if he was wincing from hairs being slowly pulled out of the skin, and watching the BOMB tutorial! Hahaha! I use cocoa butter on hairy clients. That seemed to be just right, and one of my male clients even stated, " Wow, not only will I be getting a good massage, but my wife will think I smell like cake!" Hahaha! Win- Win in that case!
@gia29
@gia29 5 жыл бұрын
Is that a good technique for someone who have a muscle strain on the chest? My client have a problem raising her arm I thought she having a frozen shoulder but then I find out the source of the problem it’s in her rt chest area.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like a good thing to try! In that case I would continue working with the rotator cuff, but also work with the pecs while the arm is in many different positions.
@joserodriguez-xz9oy
@joserodriguez-xz9oy 7 жыл бұрын
So my left pec has been bothering me and it feels like i have something tight like in my inner mid section. Its has been botherin me for a lil while and its getting my sholder a lil sore and my hole hand. Is this what i need to fix my pec? About a month ago i got my sholder and traps worked on but my pec still bothers me! Ill be glad to hear from you! Thx
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jose, for a complex shoulder/chest problem like that, I do recommend seeing a medical doctor for evaluation. Massage may be able to help as well, but you may have to ask for the pec work, as some massage therapists shy away from thorough work in the area.
@melissa8446
@melissa8446 Жыл бұрын
I have swelling right below the collarbone. Could it be a pec injury? I was throwing too hard one time (and then just regular throwing- still too hard)
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth Жыл бұрын
New swelling is a good reason to check in with your doctor. They'll be able to have a look and do some tests (if need be), and generally keep an eye on the situation. It may indeed be muscular, but heading in for a check-up would help make that determination.
@moonlightfitz
@moonlightfitz Жыл бұрын
👏
@itsmebethd2653
@itsmebethd2653 5 жыл бұрын
Does the pecs pain go into the shoulders and arms
@yalodde1164
@yalodde1164 7 жыл бұрын
hello Ian, like you said I also don't focus too much on pectorals.. but when you massage females do you also focus a lot on pectorals? because I don't really work that area and I'm not sure how much time aprocimally I should massage them.. Thank you for your tips
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 7 жыл бұрын
I do, but I tend to be less extensive with female clients unless they have problems specifically related to the pecs. I'm almost certainly doing them a disservice (why shouldn't they get just as much pec attention?) but I worry about possible boundary issues. I'm certain that it's a problem that could be solved by communication. If you'd like to see some really thorough pec work on a female client in the meantime, check out Allison over at Rebel Massage: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZ18fNlht7_dqaM.html Thanks for the question!
@shelberz1
@shelberz1 5 жыл бұрын
Massage Sloth Rite on. Thx for recommendation. Polite and professional to refer out.
@strangerintheattic
@strangerintheattic 8 жыл бұрын
Is there a specific name for the area/muscle you're holding onto in minute 8:32 - 8:35? that is the exact spot of my pain.
@otterpupp
@otterpupp 7 жыл бұрын
it's called the pectoralis major, with a lateral (sideways) grip from the axillary (armpit) region
@Seriouslioness
@Seriouslioness 5 ай бұрын
can you do this same video but show how you would do this on a female client? please
@oliverconstable9732
@oliverconstable9732 7 жыл бұрын
please do a lower back/ l/s disk herniation video!
@DO-ip3xb
@DO-ip3xb 7 жыл бұрын
Ian because Pec Minor is deep to the Pec Major, are you able to massage it with the light touch of myofascial work like you demonstrated? Thanks in advance for your reply on this, as always, I enjoy your videos ! Thanks for sharing. Denise RMT
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Denise, absolutely. Pec major is quite thin over much of pec minor (even in the client shown here!), allowing compressive force to transfer to pec minor with minimal diffusion. In fact, I find that I need to use lighter touch in many clients with habitually rounded shoulders. The pec minor isn't used to being singled out, and it can grow quite sensitive over years of remaining engaged to facilitate shoulder protraction and chest breathing. This is a case where a little goes a long way. Thanks for the question!
@stargazer4269
@stargazer4269 9 ай бұрын
How do you keep from exposing a female for this same treatment ?
@ponnice
@ponnice 5 жыл бұрын
Great technique how would you do it on female ...I have some clients that are women bodybuilders ?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 5 жыл бұрын
Allison has some great techniques for this over at Rebel Massage: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZ18fNlht7_dqaM.html
@deathsoulger1
@deathsoulger1 Ай бұрын
Do you think longitudinal petrissage to pec minor coming in from the axilla is good practice considering the brachial plexus?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth Ай бұрын
Do you mean the pec major grasp shown here? The brachial plexus is well tucked away, and you'd need to really dig toward the clavicle or shoulder joint with your thumbs to compress it. You'd feel like you were pressing on gristle, and the client would likely report nerve sensation or other discomfort. The solution there is to focus on sandwiching muscle, which doesn't require the thumbs to create any compressive force toward the bony/joint surfaces.
@deathsoulger1
@deathsoulger1 Ай бұрын
@@MassageSloth Haha, i guess my question is tangential. I do mean the Pec Minor (coracoid process ribs 3,4 &5) Why do you target pec minor through pec major rather than directly through the axilla
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth Ай бұрын
@@deathsoulger1 Ah I see! I work through pec major because I *like* that it spreads my pressure out slightly. I've never found a way to work with pec minor via the axilla that doesn't feel sharp and even invasive, though that might be a skill issue on my part. When working through pec major, even on someone with bulky muscle like my client here, it's still just a slight bit of extra tissue in the way, and it lets me angle my pressure directly away from the coracoid process in a way that I think feels nice (and where I can still find some really good spots)
@deathsoulger1
@deathsoulger1 Ай бұрын
@@MassageSloth Thank you for answering me so thoroughly. I'm new to working on this muscle so I'll head your caution and go through pec major like you in most cases. 🙏
@elliealcala1897
@elliealcala1897 8 жыл бұрын
Can the pecks be worked on over the sheet? Because it's quite hard to convince clients to have their pecks worked on,when they feel uncomfortable... or what would be a better way to explain to them that they need to have their pecks worked on for shoulder pain?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, there's a lot you can do through the sheet. Slow petrissage is a good choice, with the arm in various positions. You can also apply static pressure (i.e. don't glide over the sheet) and hold it as they breathe. I recommend angling this pressure laterally, or down toward their sternum while they have their hand behind their head. You can even apply some superiorly angled palmar pressure on the sternum, if your client is comfortable with the contact. So, that ties in to your second question: How to communicate with them about pec work? If a client has upper back pain, I tell them about their big powerful pec muscles in front, pulling their shoulders forward and down. There's a tug of war between the front and back, and one way to make the back feel better is to work with the front. After explaining this, I ask whether I can work with the upper chest (as I ask, I point out the relevant region on myself). If they say yes, ask them to let you know if you're ever too far into their personal space. So: Get informed consent, and then reassure them that you're going to respect their modesty. If you'd like to do that sternal work above, just say, "I'd like to make contact with your sternum, about right here [indicate on yourself]. Would that be alright?" All of these conversations get easier over time :) Good questions!
@jordan.e1229
@jordan.e1229 7 жыл бұрын
I really could with a massage where he's doing it
@giraffasaurous
@giraffasaurous 8 жыл бұрын
How do you do the draping on a female client to do this? I have a client who would benefit from this but, draping :(
@andreanunez7273
@andreanunez7273 7 жыл бұрын
so is there a female vid? or not yet. I love this one thanks
@k3v1n96iy
@k3v1n96iy 8 жыл бұрын
How would you work on a female clients in a professional manner if they had dis functional or pain here or would you recommend a female therapist?
@ariiSha13
@ariiSha13 7 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos! I have definitely learned a bit and especially..to slooow down..I am currently a massage student so sometimes it is interesting to see other techniques out there. I am suprised to see you did not address pec minor via the axilla region like we were taught. (Striping / o's/i's at ribs 3,4,5) . Unless I missed you doing this technique? Curious if you do know that method is there a reason you wouldn't adress it that way?
@ariiSha13
@ariiSha13 7 жыл бұрын
I rewatched the video...* you did address pec minor is the axillary region...sorry haha...it was just more as a compression technique to pec major it seemed versus a cross fibering technique..right at the ribs..but its hard to see you may have been doing that
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 7 жыл бұрын
While I love to work with the axillary region, I don't go under the pec major for pec minor work for two reasons: First, I find it difficult to address the full breadth and length of the muscle without using a fair amount of force to displace the pec major. This can easily lead to working too directly/forcefully with a sensitive muscle that isn't used to targeted contact. Second, the pec major is quite thin in the region of pec minor, even with my muscular client in this video. By working through pec major, I'm still able to apply pressure to pec minor, it's easier for me to use that 45 degree "myofascial angle," and the overlying tissue distributes my pressure across more of the underlying tissue, preventing too sharp of a sensation. Working with pec minor by approaching it from the axillary region can certainly be done kindly and conscientiously, of course. This is just my preferred method. Good question!
@ariiSha13
@ariiSha13 7 жыл бұрын
Ah thank you for the response! Very interesting, so I did see that right...I am still only at the end of my first year of schooling (in canada) but the emphasis here for pec minor being addressed that way is high, so it surprised me to see you work a little differently..most I work with are not comfortable with pec minor work. I don't like going very deep into the axillary region. When I approximate the arm forward for pec minor, and use a hand towel so it's less pokey, clients mind it less but most clients still don't like it all together. I am personally not a fan of causing pain or making my massage uncomfortable. It is nice to hear I am still addressing pec minor through contact with pec major then. I just want to be really thorough and get better at addressing the pec muscles as I am already running into a lot of clients with issues (back strains and relating spasms, shoulder problems) being attributed to because of their pecs. (imo) but hard to always explain that to people..haha I look forward to learning more and more in the massage field, thank you for your input! Can't wait for more videos
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 7 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you're making some good adjustments to make that axillary work less intense, which I'm a big fan of. I like my work through the pec major, but even if you adopt that strategy, definitely keep that axillary work in your tool box. While that may be too direct for many clients, others will respond well to more direct work. If a strategy isn't working for a particular client, having different methods to try can make all the difference. Best of luck as you progress in your program!
@dickensrivers9862
@dickensrivers9862 3 жыл бұрын
no pin and stretch strokes...missing any passive or active movement by client thru the stroke.
@gia29
@gia29 5 жыл бұрын
How can u apply that to a women client? I don’t feel comfortable treating it?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 5 жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend checking out Allison over at Rebel Massage for examples of working with women's pecs: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eZ18fNlht7_dqaM.html
@ollerpops
@ollerpops 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, are you using any cream or oil? If so, what do you use? Thanks Ian.
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
Yep, I always forget to mention that :) I use a little bit of jojoba oil. Good glide when you use plenty, nice drag when you use it sparingly.
@ollerpops
@ollerpops 8 жыл бұрын
+Massage Sloth Thanks for responding Ian. Btw- is jojoba oil difficult to wash out of massage linens, or make them smell rancid like grapeseed oils does?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
Not a problem! And not really, that was one of my main reasons for switching. It can't go rancid (it's actually a wax), and the staining is minimal compared to grapeseed. Prompt washing seems to prevent it from staining altogether.
@dmitrykudryashov2515
@dmitrykudryashov2515 4 жыл бұрын
Starts at 4:05
@lukiiwana7329
@lukiiwana7329 4 жыл бұрын
I just notice the one 🐻 Bear ....I love the big body muscle
@kuruk_war
@kuruk_war 5 жыл бұрын
Great technic, but. Why is your table so low?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 5 жыл бұрын
Just my preference, it helps me lean into my techniques rather than having to use muscle. I talk about it in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eq15nqyGxJemnqc.html
@MsKrisJb
@MsKrisJb 8 жыл бұрын
I have some struggles with big breasted women, can you make a female pec demo, including draping tech??
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 8 жыл бұрын
+Kristina B. That's definitely in the cards. In the mean time, I think that communication is key. If you can ask them to bring their opposite hand over the drape and pull their breast tissue toward the middle (which is the language I use), then many of these options become available. I find that by explaining the tug-of-war happening between the anterior and posterior musculature, and thus the importance of pec work, most clients will be comfortable with more thorough work in the pec region.
@MsKrisJb
@MsKrisJb 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick reply and advice, I'll give that a try :) love all your videos btw
@manky09
@manky09 9 жыл бұрын
Version for women please
@ashfakkhan8740
@ashfakkhan8740 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doctor.....you are very nice teacher....keep it up....God bless you💦💦💦💦
@kabdella7608
@kabdella7608 9 жыл бұрын
How would you apply this technique to a woman regarding privacy?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 9 жыл бұрын
K Abdella That's a tough question to answer, and one I plan to have a whole video on. In the mean time: I just make sure to communicate well ("I'd like to work here, for this reason. Would that be okay? Let me know if I'm in your personal space.") and to err on the side of caution unless I have a good therapeutic relationship established. For women whose breast tissue gets in the way of your techniques, you can have them draw the breast medially using their contralateral hand (use their left hand to draw their right breast toward the midline). Again, this will require some confident communication.
@abalabbas4778
@abalabbas4778 5 жыл бұрын
Nice massage and nice man i'd like to massage him😍
@blue3381
@blue3381 3 жыл бұрын
Serious question: Is this technique exclusive to males?
@MassageSloth
@MassageSloth 3 жыл бұрын
I would definitely be more conscientious about draping with women (or others who feel privacy concerns about this area). This would start with a conversation about exactly where I'd like to work and what I mean to accomplish, along with asking for consent and giving encouragement to revoke that consent in the case of discomfort or anxiety (that's my most concise definition of informed consent, btw- it should be thorough). From there we can still work thoroughly with pec major's lateral portion as it approaches the ribs, the sternum, and even the main body of the muscle. The easiest way to do this is to ask the client to use the contralateral hand to press the drape onto their own breast tissue, and to let you know if you're ever too far into their personal space. This can be extra useful because you can have them restrain their breast tissue away from where your hands are working, giving you extra real estate to work with. If you'd like some good examples of draping this area that don't require client engagement, check out Allison's various pec videos over on the Rebel Massage channel. She's awesome.
@blue3381
@blue3381 3 жыл бұрын
@@MassageSloth Thanks so much! You - and your videos are awesome!!
@dbz24
@dbz24 7 ай бұрын
If this was a woman??...how would you apply the techniques?
@TheraVoltCupping
@TheraVoltCupping 7 жыл бұрын
doing this on guys is easy do a video if this on a woman
@brianchv3661
@brianchv3661 4 жыл бұрын
I'm feeling a bit peckish
@brendagaddy9827
@brendagaddy9827 Жыл бұрын
I wish you would do a video with a woman for this techniques
@lclude9632
@lclude9632 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on pecs with a women client with breasts!
@spoon357
@spoon357 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I wanted to say! This is a very helpful video, I have a majority of female clients that would benefit.
@tonypaella
@tonypaella Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@thebatprince2398
@thebatprince2398 3 жыл бұрын
if he's SO educated, why is he not making tapes???????????????????
@MeatyController
@MeatyController 4 ай бұрын
Because his VCR is broken!
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