How to Master STUN BACK and STUN RUN THROUGH

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Dr. Dave demonstrates how to stun the cue ball forward or backward small, controlled distances from the stop-shot position. Being able to reliably execute stun run through and stun back shots will help you win games.
Content:
0:00 - Intro
0:12 - Spin Conversion
1:38 - Stop Shot
2:09 - Stun Back
4:17 - Stun Through
6:20 - Examples
7:49 - Wrap Up
CORRECTION:
- at 5:29, when I said "lower your tip," I meant "raise your tip."
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@kurtkensson2059 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for continuing to find valuable topics to cover. It must be getting increasingly more difficult!

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Actually, my "list" of topics I still want to cover in future videos keeps getting a lot longer, not shorter. I am constantly thinking of new and cool stuff I want to do.

@kurtkensson2059 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards Even better! I look forward to seeing all of it. 👍

@bohoobah9518 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards can't wait :)

@harley5571 Жыл бұрын

Dr.Dave is the man..His videos with slow motion really helps with learning. He is an excellent teacher of the game.

@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I’m glad you like my stuff.

@zachjohnson980 2 жыл бұрын

Learning to stop and stun has taken my game to a whole other level. So much better judgment and control on all shots. It truly is a fundamental of the game.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

The stun shot (stop shot included) is probably the most important shot in pool.

@CocoboloCowboy 2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Dave Video’s are alway worth time to watch. Always great information.👍

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'm happy to hear it.

@marcmalmberg7029 2 жыл бұрын

I play in bar leagues and find that stun through and stun back are good shots to hit during pre match practice, to get the feel of the cue ball dialed in. A lot of those bar balls are different weights (usually heavier than the object balls) so it's an adjustment when you're used to practicing with normal equipment

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

I like it.

@trailerwookie 2 жыл бұрын

You just keep cranking out these video gems, Dr. Dave! I would dare say that the stun shot and all it's uses and variations (tangent line, stun forward, stun back, etc.) is probably the most important skill to learn. It is the foundation of excellent shooting.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The 90-degree-rule tangent line is one of the most important principles of pool. For more, see the videos and info under the various topics here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-ball-control/

@Deep_Divers 11 ай бұрын

Best description of how to perform these shots. Thanks Dave.

@DrDaveBilliards 11 ай бұрын

Thank you, and you’re welcome. Stun is fun.

@genejoe 2 жыл бұрын

The stun back and the stun trough made me improve my game. Keep up making great videos

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to hear it. I plan to.

@Eagljck 2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Dave, you're truly a Doctor in every sense of the word. Thank you for your generous information.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

@jasonnieuwenhuis335 2 жыл бұрын

I watched this last week, just wanted to drop back in and say this has really improved my position play. I’ve always struggled with stun run and stun draw. Just in time for league playoffs!

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

I’m glad to hear it. Good luck and play well in the playoffs!

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

*Content:* 0:00 - Intro 0:12 - Spin Conversion 1:38 - Stop Shot 2:09 - Stun Back 4:17 - Stun Through 6:20 - Examples 7:49 - Wrap Up CORRECTION: - at 5:29, when I said "lower your tip," I meant "raise your tip." *Supporting Resources:* - “CUE BALL CONTROL ... Everything You Need to Know” video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLaBeKWpx6jddGg.html - stun shot resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stun/shot/ - Billiard University Playing-Ability Exams for good stop and stun shot drills: billiarduniversity.org/testing/exams/

@markbinhaonappolay1702 2 жыл бұрын

I need to add this in my drills. Thanks again dave 👍👍😊

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. I aim to swerve (which is another good thing to add to your drill list). :)

@lonniehatfield8440 Жыл бұрын

Today I Learned Something New!!!! Thanks DrDave!!!!!!

@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын

I'm glad to hear it. You're welcome! I aim to swerve. :)

@stephenmarian7097 Жыл бұрын

Dr.Dave what a great video! Thank you stephen

@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын

Thank you! And you're welcome. I aim to swerve (with SAWS). :)

@BackSeatHump 2 жыл бұрын

Nice. I have to say that your videos are VERY good. Seriously!

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@huntsolofighter4265 2 жыл бұрын

Another stunning vid!

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@ezafvrx2818 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Dr. Dave. You should make another of "pool safety's" covering more type of pool safeties. I think its a great thing to have knowledge about it because it can increase your chances of winning by a lot. :)

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. FYI, I already have lots of good videos dealing with safeties under the categories here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/safety/ Check them out.

@thegodofpez Жыл бұрын

Great tutorial as always!

@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I’m glad you liked it, and I hope it helps.

@HillbillyIslandLife 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thx

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and YW.

@franciskiruku2644 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave another good one

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, and thank you. I aim to swerve. :)

@davidarchuleta8446 2 жыл бұрын

Super Excellent, Thank You Doc !

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and you're welcome!

@james3339 2 жыл бұрын

What fricking great description of all factors

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I fricking appreciate it.

@james3339 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards ha ha. I appreciate all of your tutorial videos.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

@@james3339 I'm glad to hear it.

@richardgonzales9482 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@sobeghellibread2256 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting for this vid. I keep getting draw instead of stun and it’s killing me 😂

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Practice those stop shots, just lower your tip a touch, and keep that elbow still and grip relaxed during the stroke.

@kwakyebrenyah3615 2 жыл бұрын

Dr Dave. Kindly do a video on practicing position shots using follow. Potting cue ball into the side pocket and using two rails for position. Sometimes judging whether to use only top spin or left top or right top is difficult

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Good idea. I'll add it to my "list." My "list" is very long but I'll try to get to it eventually.

@tweave4477 4 ай бұрын

Hey Dr. Dave - this is great - but I think there is one small mistake at 5:30 - for a stun-thru at a longer distance - you say to set your tip for a stun shot, and then 'lower' your tip - but I think you meant 'raise' your tip - which you actually do. But I've been looking for a stun thru video - I play straight pool, and this will be great for my arsenal - rather than relying on a roll thru - thank you!

@DrDaveBilliards 4 ай бұрын

Yep. I noticed the error soon after I posted the video. I have a "CORRECTION" in the video description and pinned comment.

@marcusoh 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, Dr. Dave. By the way, at 5:29 you indicate to "lower your tip." I think you meant raise your tip from the stun position for a stun through.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for pointing this out. I just added a correction to the video description and pinned comment. I'm glad at least one viewer was paying attention. Good job.

@stevemiller1159 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards I also heard that, I'm thinking most, if not all of your viewers would realize you meant to raise the tip. You do a great job passing on your knowledge, thank you.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

@@stevemiller1159 Thanks, and you're welcome. Being a semi-perfectionist like me, I don't like having errors in my videos, even small ones. But agreed, it is not a big deal.

@tonicogsf 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards hahaha I’m guessing that was intentional… I found it funny

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

@@tonicogsf You mean "bid" instead of "big?" I just fixed it. A got a wisdom tooth pulled today, so I'm not on my best game. I wish it were intentional. That would have been funny, especially since you noticed.

@BryanO92 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if SVB watches this channel because he used a brilliant stun back to pocket a ball in the side off the ricochet during his recent match against Jayson Shaw. Even Shaw was impressed.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

SVB doesn't need a video to teach him things he already knows.

@ricknelson6405 Жыл бұрын

With both the tip position and speed of stroke affecting the amount of draw, do you think it would be better to isolate the variables by practicing drills using the same tip position and varying speed, or using the same speed and varying the tip position?

@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын

For the types of shots in this video, it is important to vary the tip position. But for draw shot control over a larger distance, varying the speed is a better. See the videos and info here! billiards.colostate.edu/faq/draw/advice-and-drills/

@darrionkemp7018 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Dr Dave, is a "drag shot" and how to effectively use it in limiting table run-off similar to / versus a rolling shot, and how do they differ? Would you have a video covering that topic soon?

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

See the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/drag/

@darrionkemp7018 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards thanks Dr Dave!

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

@@darrionkemp7018 You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

@clymnt 2 жыл бұрын

Stun-ning++++

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Nice.

@stevemarion9591 Жыл бұрын

Dr Dave when you were comparing the revo, the cuetec, and the z2, the z2 matched the revo. Now there is the z3 that is suppose to be better than the z2 as far as deflection goes. What is your take on the ze? Thanks stephen

@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын

Sorry, but I haven't tried the Z3 yet.

@permickichristensen 2 ай бұрын

Hi Dr. Dave Great video! :) However, I got a question: If stun shot, or just stun, is where the cue ball is purely sliding with no forward or backspin when it hits the object ball how is it possible to stun it forward or backwards? Wouldn't those shots simply just be topspin og backspin shots? Btw, thank you for all the great content, I love your videos :)

@DrDaveBilliards 2 ай бұрын

Good point. It isn’t quite stun, but it is very close. stun back = slight draw due to a very small amount of backspin stun forward = slight follow due to a very small amount of topspin

@adamdozier5757 2 жыл бұрын

I'm entered a tournament in Battle Creek Michigan, Predictor 10 Ball Open. My skill lever may or may not be up to par with the Pros. I'd like to see where I'm at. My problem is with the anxiety and adrenalin. What can I do? As of now, I'm building up my anxiety and adrenalin while playing leagues. Thinking in my head that I'm playing Pro level. LOL But playing against such weaker players and the Bar scene going on. I'm not sure what to do. The environment is killing me. Thanks for the great video's as always.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you liked the video. Concerning anxiety and adrenalin, you might find some of the mental game stuff here useful: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/mental/ Enjoy!

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Have fun and play well at the tournament!

@vividpsychosis8222 Жыл бұрын

I struggle with this so much. Been practicing the exam exercise for this, and I just cant get a stun beyond level 3, even when i lower the tip even beyond that in this video. Also my ball keeps going to the right after hitting the OB but I swear im aiming directly below the center mark on the ball =/ Sucks being a beginner. its frustrating.

@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын

You should probably focus on improving your stroke and other important fundamentals. The videos, links, and info here might help: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/fundamentals/

@kokiheka8578 2 жыл бұрын

Dr Dave ......best as always..m..I was wondering is there an equation to calculate how much masse you can get and at what position or location does the cue start to curve by hitting the cue ball in a particular point with a particular force and angle to get a desired outcome.....pls reply

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

There are equations, but they are not simple. See: billiards.colostate.edu/technical_proofs/new/TP_A-19.pdf Now, there is a fairly simple and effective way to aim masse shots. See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/masse/aiming/ Enjoy!

@kokiheka8578 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Doc

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. I aim to swerve (which is important with masse shots). ;)

@lancewilliams8480 2 жыл бұрын

How much (if any) does the type and condition of the felt effect these type shots? I play in APA league and the felt type and condition varies widely from location to location.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Cloth makes a big difference. But whatever cloth you play on, you need to be able to develop a feel for stop shot action quickly (ideally during brief practice before matches begin). Then everything works the same.

@jasonnieuwenhuis335 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been trying to catch the part where the cueball is still just barely rotating back or when it starts to roll forward. It’s a lot to visualize. It probably is easier to do with a bit faster speed. Thanks.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

The amount of spin is so little, it is difficult to see. The the motion of the CB reveals all. Also, if the tip is slightly above the stop-shot height, a small amount of topspin at the OB is guaranteed. And if the tip is above the stop-shot height, a small amount of bottom spin at the OB is guaranteed.

@ral819 Жыл бұрын

Dr Dave, isn't starting out with some draw and timing it to wear off to forward roll for minimum stun through also referred to as a "Drag shot "...?

@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын

Yes. See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/drag/

@Imikacic 11 ай бұрын

Hi, first of all thanks for all the videos you've made, it's a great help. But I have to admit I'm a little bit confused by terminology. What's the difference between the terms "stun" and "stop"? It seems to me that they can be used interchangeably...? Thank you again 🙂

@DrDaveBilliards 11 ай бұрын

Stun refers to when the CB is sliding with no top or bottom spin. An angled stun shot sends the CB along the tangent line. A straight stun shot results in a stop shot.

@Imikacic 11 ай бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards I got it. Don't remember anyone to have explained it so well and in so few words... Thanks a million, Dave! ❤🎱♥

@theoldksi9318 2 жыл бұрын

The video was on 666 views I had to be the one dave. Your videos are far from evil.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

From now on, should I refer to you as the satanic viewer? ;)

@theoldksi9318 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards haha. Ironically this is the first video I comment on, and I'm "STUNNED" you replied. 😂

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

@@theoldksi9318 The Satanic Viewer made a funny. :)

@sasikanthmalladi4804 2 жыл бұрын

Dr.Dave, is there a difference between stun draw and just draw? Look like the stun draw/follow is merely a special case of a draw/follow. Though it does seem like in a real game situation, thinking of a shot as a stun draw/follow rather than mere draw/follow might offer additional control in ensuring we get just the right amount of draw/follow. I've also heard people use the expression "stun through" which seems to be the same as stun follow.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

The difference is the draw/follow distance and the technique (faster speed with slight tip adjustments from the stop-shot tip height). "stun through" = "stun follow" = "stun run-through" = "very short follow."

@sasikanthmalladi4804 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards , thanks.

@aidancrawford9681 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dr Dave, do you have any advice on how to be able to successfully get down low on a cue to play a shot when wearing glasses? I keep finding that i’m always looking over the rim instead of through the lens which make aiming accurately extremely difficult. I know there are custom glasses that i can buy or contacts but i’d rather not go down that route if i can help it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/eyes/glasses/ and: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/low/ I hope that helps.

@aidancrawford9681 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant, thank you.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

@@aidancrawford9681 You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

@joeconnerson9773 2 жыл бұрын

I cant find any discussion on topics regarding equipment specs. Like how a heavier cue lets say 20oz. Compares to a cue thats lighter. 17oz. I wanna see 16oz. cues compared with 19oz. Cues etc.. I wanna see how a longer ferrule compares in the feel of a hit to a shorter ferrule. And even the different types of material of ferrules and how they compare. I dont know what makes a meucci shaft different from lets their own red dot vs black dot?? Or what seperates them from mcdermott? All this info isnt out there, testing differemt weights, ferrule types/length. Unfortunately im not made of money... Or id have all this whacky equipment. I cant even type "meucci red dot shaft" in youtube and find a vid. On meucci red dot shafts? Great video as always.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

I don't do product reviews, but I have lots of good general info dealing with all these topics here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/weight/ billiards.colostate.edu/faq/squirt/endmass/ billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/feel/ Check it out.

@joeconnerson9773 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards was definitely one of the most interesting reads ever. thank you so much. id still like any vid from any content creator, on reviewing different types of ferrule material and lengths and how they feel. thank you for the research Dave... you're quite literally the best content for 9 ball billiards on youtube much respect

@joeconnerson9773 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards i have a question though, what is the point of a ferrule? It supposed to act like a "shock absorber." For the shaft right? So a longer ferrule will reduce "hand shock"? Or because a longer ferrule should add more end mass, it will increase hand shock?

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/ferrule/

@yuliwong9200 Жыл бұрын

At 5:28 you said lower the tip for stun through. a misspoke? Yea meant raised right?

@DrDaveBilliards Жыл бұрын

Good catch, per the "CORRECTION" in the video description and pinned comment.

@steve8register9 2 жыл бұрын

At 5:30 you are referencing a stun-through and you said to lower the tip a little to stun through further.. I think you meant to say raise slightly from the stop position?

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Yep. See the CORRECTION in the video description and pinned comment.

@DrJimBioactive 2 жыл бұрын

At around 5:28 you say to find the stop position and then "lower" the tip for a stun through. Did you mean to say "raise" it slightly, not lower it?

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Raise. See the CORRECTION in the video description or pinned comment.

@Sup_ERS_Tar 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a difference between stun draw and just draw, Dr. Dave? It appears that a stun draw/follow is just a special case of a draw/follow. However, it does seem like in a real game situation, thinking of a shot as a stun draw/follow rather than just draw/follow might offer additional control in ensuring we get just the right amount of draw/follow. I've also heard people use the expression "stun through," which seems to be the same as

@raygrinders3918 2 жыл бұрын

This comment is a truncated duplicate.

@millsbobster 2 жыл бұрын

at 5:31 you say "then lower your tip" when you mean "then raise your tip", as shown in the tip diagram.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Yep. I have a CORRECTION in the video description and pinned comment.

@michaelluzon4962 2 жыл бұрын

I always miss when im using stun and back in long shot.

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Make sure your tip is on the vertical centerline of the CB. Any sidespin (intentional or not) is intensified, and this can cause spin-induced throw. See the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/drag/

@michaelluzon4962 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks dave. Kudos to you

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelluzon4962 You're welcome, and thank you. I aim to swerve. :)

@jonasbygden 2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't you show what happens if you try to play a follow shot but use too much speed? Many players seem to be VERY surprised that their "force follow" end up as more or less a stop shot due to the speed, making the cueball slide...

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

If a "force follow" shot doesn't go forward, it isn't just a problem with speed ... the tip is hitting the CB too low! FYI, I cover everything about CB control, including this effect, in my "CUE BALL CONTROL ... Everything You Need to Know" video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLaBeKWpx6jddGg.html And more videos and info on this topic can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/follow/force/ Check them out and please share the links with people you know who have the trouble you describe.

@CocoboloCowboy 2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Dave can not write you prescription for prescriptions.😃 But if want to improve you Pool skill, he dispenses great medicine. AKA instruction, and best thing is it is all FREE. Then all you do is PRACTICE,the medicine most people do not like.😎

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

Dr. Dave's prescription: PRACTICE (and don't miss). :)

@lonniehatfield8440 2 ай бұрын

With The Help Of Robert Daly I'm Able To Stun Back!!!!

@DrDaveBilliards 2 ай бұрын

Sorry, but I don't get it.

@lonniehatfield8440 2 ай бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards In One Of Robert Daly's Books On Pool,There Is A Pool Bridge That I Use That Helps With This Drill!!!!

@lonniehatfield8440 2 ай бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliardsI'm Using A Technique From A Robert Daly Book About Pool!!!!

@sajrra 2 жыл бұрын

Isn't stun-back the same as a slight draw-shot? The Technique is the same.. and the result is the same, so why give it fancy names like that?

@DrDaveBilliards 2 жыл бұрын

It is given a different name because it really is a different technique, using more speed with a close-to-center-ball hit. But I agree that the distinction is small.

@sajrra 2 жыл бұрын

@@DrDaveBilliards Thinking of it, I guess I get it now. Thanks for clarifying. I'll try to deliberately play one or the other in given situations now, instead of just following my gut feeling.