I must agree with Labella Vita. We’ve had our GrainMaker for over 10 years and this was after going through 4 other grain mills and being quite dissatisfied with the final product. With the GrainMaker this has never been the case - from coarse grains to fine flour, this mill has exceeded all of our expectations. True, it has become quite spendy, but this is a generational mill that I expect will be in use way past our own expiration date. We’ve motorized ours and can grind enough flour for 6 loaves in short order. In a worst case scenario, it becomes an aerobic exercise appliance. With so much invested in preparing for what may be coming, a quality mill is right up there with a good store of grains. Pam & Jim - yours is one of our favorite channels to watch!! Informative, creative and fun to watch! Congratulations on your retirement and may you have many, many years to enjoy it!

We are a farming family in Australia, we have 9000 acres of wheat, faba beans, barley, and canola…. After watching this, I am definitely looking into keeping our wheat, for long term storage

Love the tip on using a smaller loaf pan when using whole grain flours. Wonderful video answering so many questions

I ordered one from Lehmens. Ya…I dropped the money but it will out live me and grandchildren. It’s hand cranked…just in case I don’t have electricity. It’s nice.

I laughed out loud when you mentioned my all time favorite movie "The day after tomorrow." Thank you for this timely video. I have stored some grains, purchased a mill for my Kitchen aid. I have been reluctant to use it yet. Thank you for taking the mystery out of milling grains. Best wishes, Debbie Lavigne

As always you never disappoint in your thoroughness! Thanks so much!!

I love my GrainMaker mill for those looking for a quality non-electric manual mill (can be motorized). It will grind wheat, beans, nuts into nut butter, coffee, popcorn, and much more. No extra parts to purchase. Not super hard to crank either because of the large flywheel. But prices are really rising, probably won't get any cheaper, last I checked the price had gone up $200 from when I purchased mine over a year ago. If you are in the market for a mill, whatever mill that is, I would encourage you to get one sooner rather than later.

I love my Mockmill Lino. Very fine to large grains. Not cheap,but stones, not an impact mill. So very convenient! I also have a Nutramill no comparison to me. Plus its wooden exterior is lovely to look at if you leave it out on the counter. No fuss clean-up. No , I don’t work for the company just really like it😊

Jim, When I first started making 100% red winter wheat bread, I used butter and honey to test the recipe until I was able to consistently make a good loaf. Definitely the way to go!

I bake sourdough, pizza and other breads regularly and have been doing so for many years. I have a Vitamix that came with the dry ingredients container and was unhappy with the results of grinding wheat. However, it is great for grinding other dry ingredients. So I broke down and purchased a Mockmill 100 grinder and that has done the job. I can grind powder fine flour or cracked wheat and everything in between. I am very happy and have used it with many different grains. The 100 model is not the fanciest Mockmill makes but it's perfect for our family and works the same as the others.

I am looking forward to your mill recommendation! Been wanting one for years but the cost was a factor, now even more so, unfortunately. Two things about biscuits: First, they will rise higher if cut smaller, just like putting bread in a smaller pan. Second, a trick I use when baking bread which might help biscuits, that I haven't tried yet for biscuits (read below), is to soak the whole wheat flour for a couple hours in the total amount of liquid called for, then add the remaining white flour. It softens the whole grain flour so the gluten doesn't get cut, which helps the rise. My bread is about 45% whole wheat/55% white flour, and it works beautifully. For biscuits, try adding more moisture and let the dough sit for a few minutes before rolling out, or soak the whole wheat separately and then add the other ingredients. Maybe it will help as it does with my bread. I think I will have to try this next time I make biscuits! But, I love whole wheat so may be a tad biased. Cheers and thank you for always sharing such great information.

I have grown up canning, dehydrating, gardening and recently freeze drying in all of my 60+ years. However, I have not ground wheat. With everything going on I've been investigating storing whole grains (starting with wheat). I'm looking for a reliable/functionable manual grinder. We can't rely on the grid, and I live in WA state so sun can sometimes be a problem, so anyone that uses a good grinder, it's much appreciated your experiences with grinders.. Thank you!

I am pretty happy with my Nutrimill (though my family runs and hides when I use it because of the volume). Thank you, Pam, for such an informative video. I never thought of using a slightly smaller loaf pan for whole grain bread to get more lift. Also, I hadn't thought of using the whole grains as a hot cereal, but it sounds good!

Love my mock mill stone ground was my goal have had it nearly two years bake bread twice a week. No bagged flour in my home I use the mill for any flour I need

Thank you, just what we needed.

I have a mockmill grain mill. It has stone grinders and can be adjusted and love it!

One of my favorite ways to use cooked wheat grains is to make bulgur wheat (somewhat similar to how you do your nixtamalized corn). Dehydrate the cooked wheat kernels and then crack them. The cracked bulgur cooks up very fast and is the basis for many salads, such as tabbouleh. I make a "Waldorf" salad with cooked wheat kernels or bulgur: 2 cups cooked wheat kernels or bulgur wheat; 1 apple, chopped; 1 rib of celery, chopped; 1/2 cup walnuts, chopped; 2 green onions, chopped; Mix with dressing: 2 T mayo, 1 T maple syrup, 1 T apple juice, 1/2 T apple cider vinegar. PS: I use and like the Nutrimill Harvest stone mill. It has variable grinds (using all types of grains) -- from cracked to fine flour. I also still love my 30-year-old KTec grinder, but it does perfect flour (not cracked) It uses steel plates rather than stone plates.

I would like to see a video clearing up the misconceptions swirling around storage times and methods for the GF seeds and grains used for making baked goods.

I feel different than you & others about the Wonder Mill. I have had mine for 2 years & just love mine. I use it on the fine setting & get the flour I like. I use a combination mixed from white wheat, einkorn & spelt kernals. When I make bread I use half King Arthur AP flour & half my mixed grain flour. I also usually make sourdough bread. I also have a Country Living Mill that is motorized. Works very well but is very slow. Can use it for any kind of kernal & can Crack the kernals if I want. Have had it for 14 years & got it second hand but was actually new for half the price of new. Thanks for the I formational videos.

I. Have just ordered a mock mill. There are lots of good reviews on it

Another excellent educational video! Thank you

Great video and I appreciate the comparisons you did between the Vitamix and grain mill. I had planned on using my Vitamix but see that for a more expansive variety of grains it would be wise to get a grain mill. The Vitamix will be great for small jobs though of certain things. Always fun and informative!!!

Perfect timing! I was looking at the Wonder mill products. I will be growing Sorghum for the first time this spring.

I love watching your videos…it’s always like watching a science project 👍💕

Thank you for that thorough explanation. This video helped me learn quite a lot!

This was so informative. Since I’ve been watching your grain videos I started adding them back to my menu. And also for some long term storage. Thanks Pam!

I love your videos. Thank you ❤

Great information. I have a Mockmill 200 and I am very pleased with it.

Thank you for a nice demonstration of the differences among the grains and their various grinds. The flavor of whole grains freshly ground is so wonderful. Thanks for another quality video!

I have a GrainMaker (manufactured in Montana!) It has a similar control as what Pam's old machine has. You can grind a near store bought flour texture if you want. I grind wheat, rice, oats, popcorn (for cornmeal). Nuts (butters), Beans (bean flour etc.) Mills that use stones have limitations. you cannot grind things with high oil content (peanuts for example) nor super hard grains like popcorn. It plugs up the stones similar to sandpaper when it gets plugged up. I looked at all the mills on the market, evaluating from a performance, convivence, durability and where its mfg. The Grainmaker is expensive but will do everything you need and will last a lifetime + You get what you pay for!

Your older model sounds like it works the same as the Mockmill. I think you would like the versatility. It’s well made, easy to use, daily quiet and does not get everything in the kitchen dusty.

I love the fact of your honesty. You always give your unbiased opinion. Thanks for your info and how you and Jim and laugh at your experiments

Awesome video

I actually have a grinder that has the 24 inch French Stones in it and it runs off the tractor on a Power Take Off attachment. I can do corn from cracked to a fine powder you could use on a baby's butt. LOL. It will even do rice flour if I went there.I have the hammers used to sharpen the stones too, I may be in the grits business soon enough if things keep going the way they are. I also have a few hand mills and one electric meat grinder that would also do grain.

This is a great instructional video. The other day I did a binge watch on all your bread making videos and took notes of all the recipes with instructions to save for future reference. Getting ready to make my first batch of bread using the new Mock Mill. I'm going to try my hand at the long ferment. Great job Pam!

I have a Komo grain mill, I love it!

Awesome info, thank you!

thanks for the information

Oh what perfect timjng! I also have been researching grain mills recently and truly have not found any I feel would be worth the expense. I will eagerly await your research results as I trust your judgment so much. Adding whole grains into my family’s food storage is high priority and I am so happy for the information you have shared in this video. Thank you both so much for all the hard work and time spent to share your amazing knowledge and love of teaching! Be well and continued joy!

I have a mock mill 200. I love it!

Thank you so much for helping with this fantastic information 💘

I have been trying to gather information on grain mills, so this is very welcome. I have been drawn to the Mockmill, so I will be anxious to see which one you end up choosing. Thanks so much for all of the information you share with us.

Using a vitamix has really been on my mind lately, and out of the blue, I see your video. 👏 Thank you so much for your wisdom and experience. I love it when you talk about these foods during your childhood. That makes you stand out from all the newbie homesteaders, which don't get me wrong I love them too, but yours has an added layer of rich experience. Thanks so much. You also inspired me to start a sourdough starter and get to baking bread after 30 years of marriage. 😘 thanks!

Wonderful information in this video! I was toying with the idea of storing those "berries", but had no idea which to buy. Thank you for this much needed info! You have greatly helped our families!

I was happy with the cuisinart grinder that attaches to my kitchenaid mixer to grin my wheat.

Fellow friends you have led us too milling, the video that was done by your good selves opened up a new world to us. Following flour power and grain mills we went on the net and investigated what was the best one for us we came up with the Mockmill 100. The instructions easy to follow are set out well, the booklet can be kept in the hopper. You are BRILLIANT we discovered buckwheat WOW. Karma my husband has stomach problems and is gluten intolerant. Now he loves making pancakes so thank you and I hope this may help. Blessings to you and Jim

This is very helpful and so interesting. I appreciate all the extra examples of grains done in the mill or Vitamix.I have a Vitamix but I plan on getting a mill for not only our grains that we eat but I have 60 chickens and will be growing dent corn to supplement the store feed to help in the cost of feeding my chickens.

I love that you and Jim interact! I get the feeling you have started to enjoy being retired! As you should! Thanks for helping us to make wise decisions.

Loved this demonstration/explanations. I’m very interested in your final grain mill choice. What are your thoughts on grain flakers?

If you haven’t seen them take a look at the mock mills grinder. They are very nice and have a variety of price ranges. I have just their base level one and it’s great.

A timely video for me! I was just beginning my search into grain mills this morning, and then up popped your video. Many were recommending the Wonder Mill Jr, and so it was one I began exploring. I would really like one that could be useful both in my home and for off grid in case shtf . I value your opinion, above most others so I am waiting for your next review video. My specific needs are for the gluten free whole grains for long term storage.

Just love guys. Hello from NC mtns

I bought a nutrimill grinder based on reviews...haven't used yet but it sure is aesthetically pleasing for the counter...I also purchased a manual victorio grinder...yet to use.

I splurged for the komo fidibus classic when I decided I wanted to add whole grains to my storage. Wow, what a learning curve! I've had some hockey pucks too. My family is more inclined to eat bread if I mix. I also sift about half of what I mill. It seems to help. Thanks for the whole grain video and look forward to more since I'm still in the learning phase.

I bought a Nutrimill and I’m happy with it so far. I really enjoyed the “cream of wheat” I made with it. A couple of months after I bought it, Nutrimill had a $100 off sale 😡. It looks much prettier than the plastic grain mills.

I await your approval of a current grain mill. I have researched, read/watched reviews and can not decide the best for me. TY! 🤗

Loved your segment today. I had a green mill like your white one I wore it out beyond repair. I used it for 40 plus years and I loved it!! I have replace it with a K-Tec kitchen mill. It is a great little mill, easy to operate and clean. I also purchased a heavy duty hand grinder to make cracked wheat. It does everything you can imagine. You can grind 8 cups of flour in 5 minutes. It is made in Montana .It is called a Grain Maker. It would be ideaol if we had to be with out power. The K-Tec mill is perfect for just my husband and I.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I grately enjoy listening to you and how thorough you are when explaining. I am always learning something new from you! I wish you would have discussed the differences between the types of wheat, ie. Hard red, hard white , soft red, soft white and what the outcome would be for baking with each. (Maybe an idea for an upcoming video 😉) Until next time, God Bless and take care!

Ive been using the Kitchen Aid Wheat Mill it works fine and does a pretty fine grind - Recently though I have been considering buying a stand alone mill - the one I am closing in on is called Mockmill 100 -

I recently splurged and bought a Country Living grain mill. That is for when and if the grid goes down. I also have a Vitamix grain milling container. I have used that many times. We also have the same grains as you, Pam, stored away.

Love my Mockmill 100. Anything from very fine flour to large grain (use for cereals or for cracked toppings on my artisan bread). Not as fancy and beautiful as the Lino but the 100 works perfectly for me and actually looks nice on my countertop.

Love my Mockmill 100. It’s not all that pretty but I still keep it on my counter so that I will use it regularly.

My goodness I learned so much here today. 1. I need smaller pans if using whole wheat flour. 2. I'm not grinding my wheat fine enough. 3. Had no idea I could crack my own Oats and wheat. Never gave it much thought until now. I have the MockMill 100 and I love it. I cant compare it though, since its the only one I've owned. In the summer, I cook the whole grain, cool and toss in a large bowl with diced fresh garden vegetables. Drizzle with olive oil and lemon juice (or vinegar of choice) salt and pepper. The added wheat makes it a really hearty salad. Top with feta or another crumbly cheese and you're all set. Thanks so much for all the informative videos!

Thx and Hi from Houston

There are wonder mills on Ebay but they’re pricey. Thank you for this video! 🤗

My favorite is the Nutrimill. Small counter footprint, easy to use, makes fine flour. It costs under $300 new.

Oh my goodness that movie left such an impression on me!😬 thank you for the video I'm looking for a grain mill. I too want the versatility of cracked and fine. I also want a nice case😉I want to leave it on the cupboard to become part of the kitchen so it is out and not being put away to take it out all the time. I could cry, my Vitmix died last night and I will customer service today to see what happens 🤞it's just over a year old. Everyone said they were so great and are so expensive.

I purchased a Wondermill jr manual crank, in case of grid down situation, or with tool that fits a drill or can be motorized later, it also has the auger for nuts and making nut butters…I am going to purchase a Mockmill 100 for convenience in kitchen…love your videos Pam and Jim, take care and enjoy your retirement…

Pam & Jim what a blessing you both are! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us and your sense of humor. I’ve had a Mockmill that I purchased two years ago and have stored away grain. My question is where would I find a grain mill to use should the grid go down and no other power was available. Thank you.

I purchased a mill for my kitchenaid mixer. I paid $100, it has 4 settings and it works great

I have a mockmill and LOVE it. It has the same variability as your stone mill. You can adjust it from fine fine flour to so coarse that whole wheat kernels come though, so as coarse as you could possibly want! The only real difference is the mockmill doesn’t come with its own flour bin, but I just use a rectangular plastic container which works nicely.

My electric mill is a KoMo Mio. I think it does as good a job grinding as commercial flour. Pleasant Hill Grain's website has videos & side by side comparisons of the various mills. I'm going to try your basic bread recipe. I like your recipes. Have you thought about storing soft white wheat? If you have access to a cow your biscuits can be a simple 2 ingredient recipe. Whipping cream biscuits. Super easy to make. Jim won't complain of hockey pucks anymore. 😄

Hockey pucks, so funny & your laugh is contagious! The biscuits would be good with honey & butter & maybe a little peanut butter, yum.

I’ve been grinding my own grains for about a month now. I’ve baked brownies and muffins they are absolutely delicious. I love the fact that we are getting such wonderful nutrition now. I’ve never baked yeast bread but I’m ready to start that now with my own milled grains. Anyone have suggestions for a first recipe?

Vita mix has a milling blade that I use when I make my flour. It does a much better job than the regular blade. It has a blunted end. I also have a 40 year old, loud, heavy, champion juicer that has a blade for milling flour. But I would really like a very convenient dedicated miller, just don’t want another thing on my counter.

1/14/23 Thank you. My wife is hypoglycemic and grains are a problem for us (her). I only have a hand grinder until I find the best electric. I use K.A. whole wheat but I purchase 50 pound bags of white, non-bromated, non-GMO, non-bleached from a local mill. I do have a separate coffee mill, LOL. God Bless and stay safe.

Vitammix advertises a carafe specifically for dry grains. The blades are in a different configuration than the one for liquids.

I purchased a Mockmill, and I love it. Yes, I paid just over $500 can, but I've been extremely happy with how it mills all my grains. The oat groats mill out just like the bought oatmeal. There are 10 levels depending on what you want to mill and how fine. Noise level was important to me as well, and in all my research and video watching, this was the best one. It also looks nice to leave on the counter without taking up much space.

I have been wanting a grain grinder for several months. Because of the cost I know I can only afford one so I am hesitant to buy because if I don’t like it I’m stuck with it. Anxiously waiting your report on the new grinder! ❤

Really looking forward to your recommendation for a grain mill. In a perfect world, I would like one that can be either electric or hand cranked, and also can handle a variety of grains. I’ve unsuccessfully tried to research this several times.

We dehydrate some of our sweet corn. It makes the best cornbread!

Pam, thank you for this information! I always learn something or many things from each video of yours I watch...you are such a wonderful teacher! I have another suggestion for videos & books: Beans - Dried & how long they can be stored, proper storage, cooking, can they be ground in to powder after they get too hard to cook, canning & how long they will last, sprouting before cooking...hmmm, adding bean flour to bread or other baked goods, etc., etc., etc. For instance, I just read you can use the soak water to boil your beans (I have always heard you should discard it) & I thought that would be smart if water is scarce. I was then wondering if it would be okay to water plants with this water, or boil and filter it for drinking or cooking other things...

I make excellent cinnamon rolls but years ago I decided to use whole wheat flour to make them and take them to work for a treat. I packed them up and my husband asked if I had tried one since I changed the recipe. So I quickly cut off a corner of one and it was HORRIBLE. I was not going to feed those to my co-workers so I took one out to give to our dog. He gingerly took it but curled his lips away from it as he carried it over to the corner of the yard and buried it. Smart dog.

It's amazing that you can buy a hand-crank grain mill (cast -iron) from as low as $39.00 on Amazon to an electric-powered one that runs over $380!

I have a Mockmill. With it, I can go from roughly cracked to a super fine powder.

Can you do something on hand mills?

I was wondering about the Wonder Mill you bought. I’ve got the Kitchen Aid attachment. It’s far from perfect. But until we can figure out the best bang for the buck, I’ll use this. I’m like you, invest wisely.

Jim cracks me up! When was the last time Jim consumed a hockey puck?😂

So grateful for this video. I purchased a Mockmill 200 after much research and the first couple of times I used it thought I'd made a huge mistake. Despite following, or so I thought, the instructions, my flour wasn't fine and the stones clogged constantly. I was panicking that it could have been the wheat, I'd purchased 25kg of. I continued a little downhearted, I kept using rice to clean the stone, and followed the instructions time and again to set the lever. I'm glad I kept trying because gradually, it came together, like the stones were bedding in and the lever started graduating the level of fineness as expected. I now love my Mockmill! As Pam pointed out to be true, my first loaf using 100% milled wheat was very heavy. Next I tried using a sieve to remove the bran, adding it back in after mixing the dough and sprinkling some over the crust before baking, somethingI found on Google. That made a softer bread and was rather nice. Certainly not like my high quality bread flour, fluffy white kind of nice, but whole grain nice. My latest attempt is, substituting 20% of my milled wheat. That produced a lovely fluffy white loaf! Next I will try 30% and so on until I reach a limit of desired texture acceptable for my household. My go to bread flour recipe is: 2.5lb bread flour, 1/2 oz salt, 3/4 oz yeast, 1 tablespoon sugar, 1/2 cup olive oil. This is a traditional British recipe from the 50s, I've swapped butter for olive oil, butter works beautifully, but I'm trying to make it healthier. We don't tend to like sweet bread, you can increase the sugar for a US style bread. I don't measure the water but use as much as is necessary to create a dough that is only just dry enough to handle. The water is about 27c temp. The dryer it gets, the heavier the bread, in my experience. This is the recipe, I'm experimenting with. I have used 100% milled wheat to create a lovely fruit bread using this recipe. Simply fold in dried fruit and mixed spice when forming loaf. I keep adding until it looks like it can't handle more. I roll out, sprinkle, fold and repeat. It's heavy but that's OK, sliced and with butter is yummy. The fruit bread using a 50% mix of flour with milled wheat, is soft a lovely, like a hot cross bun texture. Hope this helps anybody else who is experimenting and new to milling wheat.

Thank you so much for this video!! I really appreciate it. I had never thought about oats and corn for long term storage. I have to investigate the lyme treatment for corn and also I'm interested in the rolled oats. We love watching your videos. Thank you both very much for the time and hard work!! One question. Do you have to wash the wheat? I'd read that in one place but we didn't wash ours prior to grinding. We have a kitchen aid mill attachment and it seems to work pretty good.

you know how the apple crisp has that unique flavor crispy topping on it, that's from oat flour! love it.

I am also looking for a grain mill. Will wait to see you results. Wondering if using my Vita Mixer for this will wear out the motor faster.

South Asians (India) standardly mill grais at home chapatis (tortillas, flat breads) using modern electric mills, but traditional stones are still sold domestically. on a side note, those doing freeze drying, the new Turkish camping samovars seem a handy and cheap answer to making quick boiling water. Depending on the model, some have a small tea pot inside.

I loved this video. I do have a question about good hand grinding mills for grid down situations. I'm wondering if you have recommendations for any of those available on the market.

I noticed that you didnt mention sifting the flour after milling it - That is what I do - I generally will mill 4 cups then sift it 2x or 3x and it cleans it up really well - No idea the percentage but the bread comes out as good as 100% white

Totally agree on switching to using home milled flour from whole grain gradually and before it may become necessary! When my husband and I switched, we started out with 1/2 unbleached commercial flour and 1/2 home milled and still had some very interesting digestive changes. For our standard bread recipe I ended up using a ratio of 1/4 commercial, 1/4 home milled barley and 1/2 home milled wheat flours. If we wanted a sweeter and more cake-like crumb (IE for buns, rolls, bagels) I'd proof the yeast in a mix of honey and warm milk and add vital wheat gluten with the flours. Unfortunately I was diagnosed over a decade later with Celiac and can no longer work with gluten-containing substances. I am still searching for a recipe someone who doesn't have my dietary restrictions would eat voluntarily, and would be very interested in hearing the results of your research on baking gluten free! I've been playing with chickpea flour for pasta and cassava for bread, but no luck yet.

Unfourtunly many of us can not afford mills. So we have use what we have

Those biscuits are hearty Jim. They're more filling that way 🤣!

Hi! Love your videos! I've been watching several the last few days to gain some information about food security and baking bread. Could you please let me know where you buy your whole grains for milling? Thank you for sharing all you do. :)

Hi Pam, you read my mind! I was hoping you would do a comparison with the vitamix! I remember seeing a grain mill attachment for kitchen aid mixers. I have not seen it in years. Not sure if it is still available. Thank you and Jim for another wonderful video!