We agree, totally! Jim

Totally agree!

I think I’m in about the same position as you. I can’t afford even a $400 grain mill so what do people suggest for people that really can’t afford a grain mill. What is the practicality of trying to grind it by hand? How long would it take to grind enough for a loaf of bread by hand?

I agree - I'll be looking into a hand crank grain mill. I have enough electrical things in my kitchen; so I'll look for 1 that works off-grid.

@@andreasimpson9701 Please let us know if you find something that is inexpensive Even if it is a hand crank

And a serger.

I have the Mockmill 200 too and I love it

Check on the sewing machine. Looking at a grain mill but waffling between that and a meat grinder. I’m trying to make and can my own cat food (yes, I found a recipe, canning instructions are meat processing times) and a meat grinder would be awesome for grinding meats and bones for bone meal.

@@firequeen2194 I have meat grinder attachment for my Kitchen Aid and enjoy it. Only 2 in the family and grinds a pound of meat in about 5 minutes from 1-2” chunks. Bought a Mockmill 100 and so, so happy and having so much fun. I think I made the perfect decision for me.

Hilarious Amanda! You have definitely mastered multi tasking with attaching your mill to your stationary bike.

@@kellyname5733 need to make hay while the sun shines.

Was it hard to attach to your bike? I Waldo want to do this

@@virtuousdesignsbyyessi1717 not at all!

It is an older bike we removed the rubber tire used the metal wheel aligned the pulley wheel on the grinder my husband welded a plate to hold the grinder. We then located a belt you would on a car engine the right length installed it. I’m sorry I don’t know how to attach a picture. There are several on KZfaq if you search wheat grinder bike.

I have a mockmill 100 and it does not grind extremely fine even on the lowest setting. You could not even think about making pastry flour with that machine and I have been grinding my hard white winter wheat 3 times on the finest setting just to get a flour with mediocre texture, it was a Christmas gift this year. So I am reluctant to send it back, but if I can get my money back it will be returned.

SO good to know. Mine just arrived 3 days ago and having fun. Bought a Nutrimill Harvest but returned it since it glazed up a couple times trying to get fine flour. Lifting it and dumping our the berries and flour was a huge mess and So heavy for me. But the main problem I had was the dial; too difficult for me to adjust. Liked this KoMo but liked the look and reviews of Mockmill 100 better. And takes up very little counter space. Do you set it just as the stones are starting to rub together (setting 1 for me and have not made any adjustments) to get very fine flour? TIA

My Mockmill 200 is awesome. It grinds fine.

I admit this is easier to adjust but I’ve learned how on the mock mill as for dust I don’t worry with that tiny bit but a towel over the spout and bowl works well. One tip, I found is if you turn on mill first before adding grain and not turn off till hopper is empty is easier on the mntor. And yes we bought a smaller generator to operate it if need arises. Happy milling. Oh it mills dent corn beautifully.

Same.

Do you have a link or one that you can recommend I would love to be able to do this

@@carinrichardson yes

Thanks, we pretty much did what you have suggested for our MacGyver fix. Now, we have much more control over the flour flow. Jim

@@RoseRedHomestead What size of pvc pipe is the solution? Thanks to you both!

Never, ever would I use PVC pipe w/ food, as it is the most toxic plastic man has ever created. Google that for more info.

@@eve54ut it would be used to direct the flour into the bowl and not for storage. Hate to break it to you but pvc pipe has been used since 1990’s to replace copper pipeline in both residential and industrial applications for distribution of drinking water.

@@juneroberts214 Clarification, I assume you are referring to the Flex (PVC) Pipe that has been used in some houses in plumbing in recent years, primarily because it is cheaper, but certainly not better, nor safe. Copper is still the best and the safest pipe for drinking water. Unfortunately, it's being bought up and stockpiled by another country. Just because PVC is being used, doesn't mean it is safe. Even so, the hazards of using PVC are easily available to all. With a quick search, you will find that PVC pipe leaches the toxic chemicals, Polyvinyl Chloride & Phthalates, into drinking water. I do not know how much of these chemicals would be released into the millled flour after it is milled, but I would not ever use it to pass food across frequently, because it obviously contains these toxic chemicals. See quotes and link below on the health hazards associated with PVC pipe. "A study printed in the "Journal of Environmental Engineering" found that, in homes built before 1977, installed PVC pipes were found to leach polyvinyl chloride into drinking water at levels above the maximum allowed contaminant level. Levels were tested at dead-end pipe segments, where water stagnates. The study recommends installation of manual or automatic flush valves to reduce concentrations." "The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) notes that PVC contains phthalates, which can leach from plastics and, in animal studies, demonstrated the capacity to cause liver and reproductive system damage. The CDC warns that short-term exposure to phthalates shows little toxicity in adults; animal studies indicate that continuous exposure to phthalates is toxic, even at low doses. Infants, in particular, do not process phthalates well." "Newer plastic plumbing components are marked to show that they meet the current standards for potable water. Compliant pipe is stamped with the codes NSF-PW or NSF-61, ensuring that these pipes meet the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) standards for potable or drinking water. This standard evaluates the contaminants or impurities of materials that come in contact with drinking water." If you have a choice like Stainless Steel or other non-PVC pipe, why would you risk your family's health by choosing a known toxic leaching plastic? I took the time to comment, because I really like this channel and respect the way this couple honestly presents information to us all. Your suggestion seemed incongruent to their channel's overall philosophy. www.livestrong.com/article/125022-health-risks-plastic-water-pipes/

Thanks for sharing! Jim

I also have the Nutrimill Classic and have been very happy with it. The MockMill is definitely prettier (and I do like pretty) but I store it in our pantry anyway so that didn't matter.

I own a Nutrimill also...it is similar to your komo..uses stones to grind the kernels...I researched quite a bit, at the time, but was so new to the process it was still a shot in the dark. I'm glad I went with one that does super fine grinds with stones. It is aesthetically nice to look at to.

@@sonyareeder7855 - The NutriMill (classic) is an impact grinder. You can tell because it sounds like a vacuum cleaner when it's operating. I have one, and it makes flour (only) from smaller dry grains. Unfortunately, the small slots where the grain goes into the grinding chamber are too small for corn.

@@g-whiz286 yes the classic is but not the harvest. Which is stone grind.

Just for info the mock mill may look plastic but the manufacturer states it’s made from” liquid wood” now what that is I don’t know bit it’s not plastic

@@mamabird2434 You seem to think I was referring to something else as not as good as it was plastic. I wasn't.

@@TheCanniScot not really just didn’t know if people knew it wasn’t plastic sorry if it came across wrong sure didn’t mean it to

@Mama bird No probs. 😀💜

Just toss a dish towel over the Grinder while using and will keep the flour dust from going all over.

It makes you wonder if the calories expended would be compensated by the bread.

What made you decide to purchase the KoMo flaker mill over the Messerschmidt (FGM) flaker mill?

I concur. I’m always on the lookout for manual kitchen appliances just in case. I do have 3 portable power stations but nothing like the Bluetti. I should’ve just bit the bullet and bought the Bluetti but I wasn’t sure how much power I needed. For off grid camping, I never need the 3 power stations but it’s backup for emergencies. I also look for anything solar powered. 😉

My mock mill doesn’t seem to make as big of a mess

I guess you’ve hit on why I see so little taller bowl! Never thought of that I just have always used as tall as will fit it. 🙂

Let us know if your Bluetti powers your MockMill. We have number of bread making videos we have made over the years. I was in Omaha for a number of years and understand how cold it gets. Stay warm! Jim

@@RoseRedHomestead what size Bluetooth is this?*Bluetti

It sounds like you might have the Diamant? That’s the one I’m thinking of purchasing. What impressed me is how finely it grinds flour.

Do tell! Do you recommend both? Any pros?

Cons?

@@virtuousdesignsbyyessi1717, my preference would be Komo overall because it does a slightly better job at grinding the wheat kernel into a finer flour than Mockmill. My dream stone mill would be the Komo Professional, which I was unaware existed when I purchased my Komo a year ago. At this point, I cannot justify adding a third stone mill, but it is tempting.

I just bought one and man oh man is it tiring. I have it before I even got a cup 😂

@@virtuousdesignsbyyessi1717 If I want finer flour, I grind it once as a "cracked grain" level and then again as fine as I want. To me. it feels like it goes faster and easier overall.

It is great that your KoMo still works like new. Yes, we found a way to reduce and control the dust, too (at least), for right now. We may have to modify it later, depending upon performance. We are doing more research on a hand-crank mill, too. I am sure, if we get one, we will do a video. Thanks for watching our channel. Jim

You are so welcome! Jim

Yes! Pam looked lovely today! 😊

You are so welcome! Jim

Good idea about the elbow.

You are welcome. Jim

Our pleasure! Thanks for your comment.

You are so welcome.

I do as well and a meat grinder.

Congratulation on your retirement. We too, do not want to make mistakes on our hard earned money. We have several videos on Bluetti power stations. Jim

Is the white a true white or off white ?