How to Mix Heavy Drums - Part 1 - Kick Drum | SpectreSoundStudios TUTORIAL

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You guys asked for it, here we go! The first installment of "How to mix Heavy Drums"
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@darkriff777
@darkriff777 7 жыл бұрын
Great, can't wait to see how you mix the St Anger snare.
@WilliamJacobsenMusic
@WilliamJacobsenMusic 7 жыл бұрын
That sine wave trick was extremely cool, gonna remember that one!
@SteveStockmalMusic
@SteveStockmalMusic 4 жыл бұрын
DUDE !!!! Every time I hear your intro music I just scream in happiness and go ripping down the street in my Hot Rod !!! Frikkin LOVE that sound
@ace_v2905
@ace_v2905 7 жыл бұрын
You should cup the mic while recording drums
@ATthemusician
@ATthemusician 7 жыл бұрын
it works wonders honestly, it's my preferred technique.
@TheDoomerBlox
@TheDoomerBlox 7 жыл бұрын
But what if you can't bring 13 of your friends to your recording joint?
@PJyrstinkangas
@PJyrstinkangas 7 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter how many friends you can bring, just cup and record each part of the kit individually 'cause you're gonna edit and quantize the shit out of them anyway.
@ace_v2905
@ace_v2905 7 жыл бұрын
***** Exactly what i had in mind
@MrDonnyAir
@MrDonnyAir 7 жыл бұрын
Except your not getting the entire sound of the kick by doing this... by putting a "focusing" device on the mic, you're getting a limited, narrow focus of the sound source, instead of picking up the pleasing resonance of the entire drum. Drums are as much about how they sound in the space they are in, it's not always about the isolation of getting the frequencies of a close-mic. I imagine you could get a nice "click" from the beater with this method, but you'd be missing energy in certain resonant frequencies as well by baffling the mic. I wouldn't ever do what you are suggesting, at least not without adding a secondary mic to grab the resonance of the whole instrument.
@metalizer135
@metalizer135 7 жыл бұрын
FUCK YES!!! YES!! THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!!! Can't wait for an episode about room microphone mixing.
@rlibby404
@rlibby404 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. This is the kind of stuff that got me to subscribe. Perfect blend of practical experience with old school and new school techniques. All delivered to the audience in a package that promotes experimentation rather than limitation. There's sooooo many ways to attack a mix creatively, I appreciate proper attempts to focus on the infinite variations of 5 to 10 parameters instead of 50. Keep it coming!
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios 7 жыл бұрын
+rlibby404 will do!
@PatRock1983
@PatRock1983 7 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this series for over a year... I got back into recording as a drummer because you inspired me to. So any new tips and tricks for drums is MUCH APPRECIATED!!!
@cyface
@cyface 7 жыл бұрын
Immediately used several tips from this video, especially using the tone and a sidechained gate to fill out the tone w/o a subkick. Thanks, Glenn!
@sigurdfyllingkarstad2694
@sigurdfyllingkarstad2694 5 жыл бұрын
I'm about to try this for the first time myself. I'm so excited! These videos are going to make my life so much easier. Thank you Glenn!
@AnkothOfficial
@AnkothOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
That bass drum sounds so nice... my ears feel so pleasant. It's got that thwack and punch, but also enough low end and a massive sound. That's just using mics with no eq. Well done Glenn, this is trve art of recording drums.
@Etvi
@Etvi 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Glenn. Tutorials like this were the reason to subscribe at the first place. Especially the tone generator tip was extremely useful.
@matacorpse5762
@matacorpse5762 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna try and incorporate as much of this into EZD2 as possible. Thanks for this! So in depth
@Obsidiex
@Obsidiex 5 жыл бұрын
I watched this as well as a bunch of the other mixing videos and combined with a friend explaining the basics of bus mixing drums my sound has improved in leaps so thank you very much from rhode island
@TheA13000
@TheA13000 7 жыл бұрын
Great great trick with the tone generator on the kick! I will surely use it in my next mix
@Barioncr
@Barioncr 5 жыл бұрын
That sine wave trick is amazing, thanks for showing this. I also tried to use convolution reverb with a one sinewave cycle as an impulse, sort of worked similarly but it was hard to control this thing.
@ehgore1978
@ehgore1978 7 жыл бұрын
This is great and thanks for sharing your settings, this should help out a lot
@alexwalker67
@alexwalker67 7 жыл бұрын
The tone generator is a great idea! Pilfering that for my mixes. Thanks!
@XanduIsBored
@XanduIsBored 7 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah, so hyped for this series!
@Fjaka
@Fjaka 7 жыл бұрын
Really glad you said you put the mastering plugin first... I've been doing this for few years (and getting good results) when someone told me that's not how you're supposed to use it... I didn't understand why though...
@rorybninetythree
@rorybninetythree 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT trick with the tone generator man! always nice to see a pro share some cool tips :)
@pablutobailey
@pablutobailey 7 жыл бұрын
Man that was awesome!!! i really liked the sound of those kicks and nice choice of plugins too... Ill try to check them out.
@NHFTL
@NHFTL 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video Glen! Ive been taking the Hardcore Mix Vault Lessons so this was nice to take notes to for comparison on how two different engineers go about mixing kicks. Always enjoy learning some new things
@philzeo
@philzeo 7 жыл бұрын
I've also been doing mix vault! It's super cool, because I've had so many different teachers but my passion has always been Silverstein type pop punk / hardcore. So getting to actually learn more about mixing that genre by dissecting the mixes I've always referenced is amazing :D
@unhuman3781
@unhuman3781 7 жыл бұрын
Great advice with the tone creator, gotta try that soon, thanks!
@jamielittle3399
@jamielittle3399 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice, especially regarding the Tone Generator in Reaper, great idea to complement the kick :)
@TM42
@TM42 7 жыл бұрын
Wow! Love the frequency generator tip! I'll have to try that out!
@tomrogue13
@tomrogue13 7 жыл бұрын
The side chain technique is just awesome. But that kick sounds great by it self
@Erik17071990
@Erik17071990 7 жыл бұрын
He, Glen great video. Nice way to show some studio tricks although it would be nice to hear the final kick drum sound in the mix that was playing earlier.
@nvrlvdnvrlst
@nvrlvdnvrlst 7 жыл бұрын
Came at the perfect time. Just got my 8 channel interface in and our drummer and I are chomping at the bit to give his drums a go.
@SkinnedPuppyPhD
@SkinnedPuppyPhD 7 жыл бұрын
Love the sine wave trick. Thanks Glenn!
@tmmmedia731
@tmmmedia731 7 жыл бұрын
I just bought a kit for my studio and just got the falam slam purely on looks and cuz remo. I am getting a great click and I'm really happy that you use it. I accidentally made a good choice lol
@gastonjabaly
@gastonjabaly Жыл бұрын
Hey glen i recently started recording real drums and i had problems with my playing balancing processing the real kit so i started looking for videos to mix metal drums and EVERY SINGLE ONE ITS WITH SAMPLES OR REPLACEMENT !!!!!!!!! So thanks again for this one
@twohornedpuppet85
@twohornedpuppet85 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the series!
@ed.flores
@ed.flores 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Just got subscribed!!! Personally, one of my problems, when I strarted mixing, was not knowing what sound I was looking for. I started insterting Eqs, Comps and all of the bells and wistles other Pro mixers used, not even knowing what a kick should sound like in a specific song. I find this kind of videos great cause you just explained how to get an especific type of kick sound useful in "x" scenario. Keep the great material comming! Regards all the way from Mexico!
@benjifigueroa9737
@benjifigueroa9737 7 жыл бұрын
This one really blew my mind. Thanks!
@TheSboobsy
@TheSboobsy 7 жыл бұрын
I've never thought about putting the master chain when mixing so I don't fuck up my drum sound when actually mastering. Will always do now, * TJ voice * Thank you Glenn !
@md4man
@md4man 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting this series started. This is the one I've been waiting for ever since your "How To Record Heavy Drums" series ended. Somewhat related, you should check out Drum Forge's new drum EQ, DF-Q. It just works!
@irrsinnrainer
@irrsinnrainer 7 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you so very, very much for this video series!
@Salantsoundstudios
@Salantsoundstudios 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome glenn! I use all the slate stuff too, great stuff, and killa vid!
@DenniWintyr
@DenniWintyr 7 жыл бұрын
I've been using that sine wave trick on the kick for a few years now. It really adds a lot.
@rockyowitz
@rockyowitz 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton for this, Glenn. I'm stuck using Superior Drummer for the moment for my recorded work (no space for my e-kit or money for a drummer, as nice as that would be), but am saving these to use for other projects. Plus, this might even help my stuff out as is. Thanks again
@KapowBand
@KapowBand 7 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely the most informative and well explained video I have ever seen about drums! Now if only I could get my drummer to count to more than 3...
@ShadowOpus
@ShadowOpus 7 жыл бұрын
Great video Glenn! Thanks!!!
@flapjack413
@flapjack413 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing the signal generator trick for fattening up the kick. Great solution for guys like me who don't have enough channels for two kick mics! I've always had trouble getting the full sound of my kick with one mic, and getting the right blend of depth and click, no matter the placement of the mic or EQing. Problem solved!
@waterbottle2963
@waterbottle2963 7 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, a sine wave on a kick. I learn something new everyday. Definitely gonna try that out
@devinbuchhorn
@devinbuchhorn 7 жыл бұрын
That tone generator/gate trick is awesome!
@cryingpsycho
@cryingpsycho 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so frickin much this going to be the best series of this channel (also other mixing tutorials are awesome do it just do it)
@B0yardigi0rn0
@B0yardigi0rn0 7 жыл бұрын
Pure gold, thank you!
@BergR1
@BergR1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. There is also a 50htz boost plugin in reaper that works a treat on bass drums.
@abrahamsotelo6188
@abrahamsotelo6188 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, the tone generator thing is a cool idea :)
@toki_-_wartooth
@toki_-_wartooth 7 жыл бұрын
great video as always love the tip about the sine wave, i use studio one 3 so not sure if i can do it exactly the same way
@iwanijsbrandij2038
@iwanijsbrandij2038 7 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Glenn!
@andresesqueda1424
@andresesqueda1424 7 жыл бұрын
awesome video Glenn!
@tanu9749
@tanu9749 5 жыл бұрын
You r doing excellent job sir... Cheers👌
@Sto4569
@Sto4569 7 жыл бұрын
This is the series I have been waiting on!
@spin_soul
@spin_soul 7 жыл бұрын
Bout time! Better late than never though, thanks Glenn! Looking forward to the rest of the series!
@CIRCLEOFTONE
@CIRCLEOFTONE 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Need this. I have the slate mastering plug too.
@CellarLakeStudios
@CellarLakeStudios 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual Glen. Joey Sturgis makes a plugin exclusively designed to add the Sine wave to a mix. It's midi controlled. "Sub Destroyer" might be worth while checking out.
@Jiafeiproduct12
@Jiafeiproduct12 7 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!!! thanks glen.. u really r the man!!..
@MattP496
@MattP496 7 жыл бұрын
thanks Glenn this is really helpful
@kevincoulter4917
@kevincoulter4917 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant use of the sine wave generator in the side chain to beef up the low end! I'll be stealing that.... I mean borrowing that....
@posse600
@posse600 7 жыл бұрын
Thanxs glenn great tips! I wonder if you can make a side note, on GAIN and GAIN STAGGING in the mix, to clarify! You sir are the shit.!
@piotr.soton88
@piotr.soton88 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff Thanks!!!
@siemradder1909
@siemradder1909 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Glenn. Just want to say i really like these kind of videos, even tho i cant effort the mics and such and programm everything :p. It really helps my general knowledge tho! Have a good one!
@grprod.9535
@grprod.9535 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Glenn, thanks for sharing. The trick for Tone Generator is very useful. Best Regard from Argentina, Lian Gerbino.
@andrefigueiredo3936
@andrefigueiredo3936 7 жыл бұрын
Waiting for this for some time, cheers Glen!
@HZSoGoodMusic
@HZSoGoodMusic Ай бұрын
Thanks man! Great help!
@gurugeorge
@gurugeorge 7 жыл бұрын
Mixing into the mastering plugins is definitely the way to go with digital generally. I tend to do that most of the time, and just check back with the unmastered mix now and then to have something for the ears to contrast with (like looking under the hood, so to speak). "Mastering" is really a different thing than what it used to be back in the day (I'm 57 and cut my teeth on the old skool ways of doing things). Back in the day, "mastering" meant specific tools used to prepare a mix for cutting to vinyl - i.e. the mix might have some compression and eq, but that would be about all, most of the "warmth" people talk about with vinyl is really the extra stages of compression, limiting, filtering and eq that were done at the mastering stage to ensure that the mechanical process of a needle reading a plastic groove would come off well, so the sound would be "contained" in those mechanical constraints, but sound as full and big as it could be within that context. Nowadays, though, "mastering" is just part of the sound, part of the actual mix itself, so you might as well mix into it.
@uncaaj6242
@uncaaj6242 7 жыл бұрын
YEEEES! Been waiting for this series!
@EtherealMetal
@EtherealMetal 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Glenn、amazing tutorial!That tone generator trick is something I've been using before watching the video and wanted to add some things I personally do in addition to that trick。 After gating tone generator with kick and all、using a transient shaper to decrease/increase the sustain/attack of the sub bass can help you shape and blend the sound with the kick and overall mix better。Sonic Anomaly has are really good transient shaper called "Transpire" for free if you guys needed help finding one。Another cool trick is creating a folder track on top of both the normal and sub kick tracks and using a light to medium compressor to "glue" their dynamics and tone together for more naturalistic sound。Applying layers of compression on different levels of the drum can really bring out a lot of hidden characteristics。
@chicktapus463
@chicktapus463 7 жыл бұрын
oh damn, that kick sound is beautiful
@Slow.Learner.Devolution
@Slow.Learner.Devolution 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I'm so happy this is finally comin out! As a drummer and studio rat I really dig this. Its great to learn more ways to skin a cat.
@Eduardosidcardoso
@Eduardosidcardoso 7 жыл бұрын
Damn, it takes so much work for mixing drums! I'm glad I picked up the guitar! XD Still, really cool to see it takes that much work, gonna have to watch it a few times to really understand all the details.
@russbenoit6061
@russbenoit6061 7 жыл бұрын
I've never tried the tone generator idea, I usually will blend in a sample underneath the natural kick to add what it's missing (click or low end). I'll definitely have to give that tip a whirl in Reaper!
@phunmaster2000
@phunmaster2000 7 жыл бұрын
man that sine wave trick was sweet, gotta start using that especially
@adimi87
@adimi87 6 жыл бұрын
Nice channel and helpful tips! :)
@josefrancisco6969
@josefrancisco6969 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this is great.
@joshwade4197
@joshwade4197 7 жыл бұрын
That tone generator trick is fucking genius! Been studying recording for a good part of 3 years now, just moved up from college to university (from England btw, i'm not sure of the equivalent across the sea :P) and I have never even thought of this! Will have to try it now, cheers Glen!
@FrankieHiltz
@FrankieHiltz 7 жыл бұрын
Holy eff, so much in depth stuff here. I don't even understand the gist of it >.> Gotta learn sometime though :p
@anguscameron9114
@anguscameron9114 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Glenn, thank you so fucking much for your channel. I Know fuck all about engineering but you have opened my eyes to just how much time, work and effort goes into recording. It would be my honor to work with you one day. Keep up the awesome work man, much metal love from down under, Adelaide. Keep it Heavy!!!
@anguscameron9114
@anguscameron9114 7 жыл бұрын
Oh and by the way, I think i need to order 50000 "Stop cupping the mic DUMBASS" shirts and hand them out to all the local bands. My bro and I now have a game of guessing how many bands have cuppers in a gig due to the number of Fuckwits doing this bullshit.
@czdot
@czdot 7 жыл бұрын
Yet another of those "Holy shit I had no idea" videos. Thank you, Glenn. :-)
@DG-ct5mj
@DG-ct5mj 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome Stuff
@nikumeru
@nikumeru 7 жыл бұрын
The oscillator & gate is one of the best tricks to fatten up a kick drum, especially live if you have only 1 mic, no time and a nice digital console (even a low-mid end X32).
@DanielClaytonFarnsworth
@DanielClaytonFarnsworth 7 жыл бұрын
The Sine Wave Gate trick is great, but gotta be careful with huge passages of double bass. Also keep it in tune with the song. That goes for other drums as well! Sounds awesome!
@PhilDiCicco
@PhilDiCicco 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@rabatzbumm
@rabatzbumm 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can make a video on "How to record/mix clean guitar"? Keep the good work up!
@ElMoShApPiNeSs
@ElMoShApPiNeSs 7 жыл бұрын
I so just love it how everytime you add on a new plugin it's just like "how much louder can I make this?"
@ZackBR
@ZackBR 7 жыл бұрын
the VMR defenitely added a few dB
@ElMoShApPiNeSs
@ElMoShApPiNeSs 7 жыл бұрын
***** Nah dude it's definitely getting way louder.
@ElMoShApPiNeSs
@ElMoShApPiNeSs 7 жыл бұрын
***** I understand the sound is probably changing for the best...but it's also just getting way louder whenever he unclicks bypass.
@zackxg27
@zackxg27 7 жыл бұрын
It's just physics. Record literally anything, and double it. Don't rerecord a similar take on another track. Literally clone the file you're already working with onto another track. Play them both at the same volume. No panning even. It's louder. The waves "stack" to keep it simple. It's the same reason that you can record with no single channel clipping, but when all played back at once, the master clips when everything is set to zero on the fader.
@IanVase
@IanVase 7 жыл бұрын
Another approach people could try that i've been doing lately and is pretty similar to the sine wave trick but with less steps is download the free Metric Halo Thump plugin and setting it to say 50hz and blending it in. Does the same thing really. Worth a try!!!
@ZILtoid1991
@ZILtoid1991 7 жыл бұрын
That low frequency sounds like a some of my early attempts at creating FM drums for video game music, only mine had more click to it as I set the second operator self modulating.
@oleguhi6728
@oleguhi6728 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the grea video (as always)! There's even a better option in Reaper made for that purpose. It's called 50Hz Kicker. No need to use a tone generator and a gate)
@krokmiten
@krokmiten 7 жыл бұрын
Good tutorial! For people who don't use Reaper and want the plugin for sub notes, I think Metric Halo Thump would the job, and it's free (vst AND aax!).
@MathewxThexHuman
@MathewxThexHuman 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Glenn!
@mikerimi3092
@mikerimi3092 5 жыл бұрын
Tnx 4 tips...excellent
@piratestudiosproductions
@piratestudiosproductions 7 жыл бұрын
Hell Yes!!!!!!!!!!!! That moment I've all been waiting for!!!!!!!! lol
@maximpatrich8398
@maximpatrich8398 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Glen, First off, thanks for all of your great work lending some much needed education to the music community. Now I know you're a metal guy for the most part when it comes to recording, but I'd love to get your thoughts on one of my personal favorite records (both for songwriting and recording/mixing) "Consolers Of The Lonely" by The Raconteurs. Most notably, the recording of the drums... Some tracks that I thought have great drum sounds are the title track, The Switch and the Spur, Attention, and Rich Kid Blues (their rendition of a great Terry Reid song). They get some pretty insane sounds on this record, and would love to get your thoughts as to how you would approach a record like this. Also, do you ever record to tape? All the best bud, keep on rockin'.
@matejpohanka1719
@matejpohanka1719 7 жыл бұрын
Please, please do more videos like this, I want know more!!! :) also I would like to see some metal guitar and bass mixing too :) And one question....do you have some experience with mixing metal with orchestral parts( symphonic metal?)??
@yourmetalgod69
@yourmetalgod69 7 жыл бұрын
can't wait for the snare vid
@KINARTHA
@KINARTHA 7 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! I hope you will do a in depth-video focusing on mixing guitars! I'm having lots of trouble getting a good and CLEAR guitar sound. I mostly record hardcore punk etc. but every time I find a decent guitar sound that has balls but clarity on it's own and record it by double- or fourtracking and play something with a really fast tempo, it all just gets muddy and you really loose the clarity. And thats quite ironic 'cause I'm using a telecaster. You can't really get more clearer with sound guitarwise... Any guesses what I am doing wrong? Oh, and I'm using a Roland Quad Capture-interface that hooks up my amp right into my laptop and use just basic compressors and EQ to try to get it sounding all nice and neat. Love your channel, peace!
@andrewdanis
@andrewdanis 7 жыл бұрын
Woah. Super cool idea using the tone generator to add low end on that kick for a fucking huge sound.
@unlockyoursound
@unlockyoursound 6 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Technically FG-X is a clipper, but I love you.
@ljuky
@ljuky 7 жыл бұрын
Finally! Yes!
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