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How to Modify a Mach3 Screenset - CNCnutz Episode 208

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CNCnutz (Peter Passuello)

CNCnutz (Peter Passuello)

Күн бұрын

How to Modify a Mach3 Screenset using Screen4 software.
Downloads used in this video and other relevant information is available from my website.
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This video corrects the issues in my previous video from 2 years ago and introduces a new Mach3 script for the Autozero function. This new script will help prevent broken tools if there is an issue with the touch off plate or cutter not completing the circuit. The script will not work unless this basic function in working.
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@jordandotan
@jordandotan 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Pete, Great Video as always! regarding the issue of the top menus not showing their contents and freezing the software; all you got to do is run Screen4 in compatibility mode. Right click Screen4.exe and -> Properties -> Compatibility -> Check the "Run this program in compatibility mode for" -> Choose" Win Vista (SP2)" OR "Win XP (SP3)". Then run the software and it should all run sweet on you. Cheers Lee
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lee
@brianbreshears1883
@brianbreshears1883 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter! Just installed the pendant and should have done so years ago! I find all your videos worth the time. I was building a Joe's 4x4 at the same time you were although mine was a cast cnc version. Cheers!
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian. A pendant sure makes it easier to use. Cheers Peter
@toms4123
@toms4123 6 жыл бұрын
Very useful information. Sometimes wonder how you get to learn about all of these details. Thank you Peter.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom. I learn by doing. Cheers Peter
@gizmobowen
@gizmobowen 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter for this helpful video. I was trying to follow along with Screen4 but it was messing up my screenset when I put the LED on the screen. I uploaded your screeenset and everything is working. Problem averted. Thanks for making that available.
@garethroberts9804
@garethroberts9804 6 жыл бұрын
So now I know how you did it when you helped me Peter. Another excellent educational video and it gives me confidence to try things for myself. Thanks again. Cheers, Gareth
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
No problem Gareth. Your little problem helped me figure out how to do the screenset. Cheers Peter
@denouch358
@denouch358 6 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, thanks to people like you newbies like me can learn how to use our new CNC machines.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Denis.
@MarkLindsayCNC
@MarkLindsayCNC 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video, Peter. Thank you for making it in such a way that even I could understand it.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark.
@giuliobuccini208
@giuliobuccini208 2 жыл бұрын
This video is pure gold.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Giulio Cheers Peter
@RC-Flight
@RC-Flight 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video Peter! Thanks for the acknowledgment in the auto Zero script! It’s always fun to tinker around with those. I’m going to have to get myself one of those pendants. Glen
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your help with script. I don't know if I could have done it. The pendant is great, but then I'm bias. Cheers Peter
@RC-Flight
@RC-Flight 6 жыл бұрын
CNCnutz (Peter Passuello) just ordered the pendent from EBay Canada could take anywhere from April15 to June 15 It’s usually months by the time stuff gets here from China lately. I’ve had stuff shown up 4 months after ordering. But well before then I’ve already asked for a refund LOL. It always on a “slow boat from China” And when it does finally show up, its always a surprise as to what it is that came in the mail. Glen
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
I sure you will wonder how you did without it. I'm a bit the same with my ebay purchases. I never know what it is that turns up and after spending time feeling the packages I finally open them only to find I invariably get it wrong. Cheers Peter
@bdiler35
@bdiler35 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, i've same cnc usb controller but some buttons wasn't working properly to control Mach3, now it fixed!
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped. Cheers Peter
@richardking7996
@richardking7996 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, love your videos, there brilliant. I couldn't edit the emergency stop button and get to work the way you showed in the video, but I was able to get it to work using the screenset4 editor. Thanks for helping us dummies, and love your cents of humor.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard.
@johndavis415
@johndavis415 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, it sure helped me set my pendant up. I am enjoying ALL your works.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John
@spudnickuk
@spudnickuk 2 жыл бұрын
Super clear and understanding Video and a big thank you for your script and everything worked fine for me.
@rickmccaskill7888
@rickmccaskill7888 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Peter. I learned a lot about how to fix my CNC configurations.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rick
@eddiek204
@eddiek204 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You Peter. I never knew you could modify the screenset. Very informative.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eddie. You can build a new one from scratch if you are so inclined. Cheers Peter
@TessierWork
@TessierWork 5 жыл бұрын
Peter, you did it once again! a GREAT tutorial. I was able to customize my Screenset 2010 to work with my Ebay Pendant. Thank you for taking the time to share. Greatly appreciated.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 5 жыл бұрын
Good one. I hope you enjoy the pendant as much as I do. wouldn't be without it. Cheers Peter
@Askjerry
@Askjerry 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize you could configure as much as this... good to know.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
You can create and entire screenset. Your only limit is your imagination.
@southpark4151
@southpark4151 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for pointing out that the LED can't be added directly to the button region, and requires the LED to be placed outside the general window area before 'sliding' it to the desired spot. That behaviour of not being able to make the initial LED drop could certainly create confusion - mainly because it's not doing something that one would it expect it to do. Nice screen design features though!
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kenny Glad it helps. Cheers Peter
@rayleblanc7209
@rayleblanc7209 10 ай бұрын
WARNING: I used your info to update my 2 CNC's for touch plate LED. Before doing it, you should make a copy of the 1024.set and place it on your desktop. After restarting the Mach3 mill, the LED did not show up where it was suppose to. There is no way of editing the LED after it's been placed. Luckily I had my other CNC to get a copy of the 1024.set and try it over. After 5 attempts I finally had it where I wanted. One CNC is on windows 11 with Mach3 usb board and the other is XP with rs232 board. I was able to edit on the older XP but not the windows 11.
@bernienufc3166
@bernienufc3166 6 жыл бұрын
just like wine you get better with age....cheers
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bernie
@drewjbx228
@drewjbx228 Жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing, I just found this video... can you share how I could separate the toolpath window onto a 2nd monitor, or any window we choose?
@bernienufc3166
@bernienufc3166 6 жыл бұрын
Well finally got the chance to follow this and apply it step by step and it was great, thanks
@ExtantFrodo2
@ExtantFrodo2 6 жыл бұрын
Very good tutorial. TYVM! BTW, I love those hinged cable guids. What a great idea.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@billoofound827
@billoofound827 Жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, your videos have been very informative. Regarding the pendent you are customizing i have a basic question. My machine has 4 linear and 1 rotary axis. Y axis has A as slave in Mach3. B is rotary. will i be able to use this pendent. Regards.
@johnhorne3862
@johnhorne3862 6 жыл бұрын
Great Information. Thanks for taking the time to share. This will be very useful.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks John
@rickyriskyyy
@rickyriskyyy 3 күн бұрын
Hello sir need some help want to retrofit embroidery machine using mach3 need help regarding encoder pulse
@sunny5rising
@sunny5rising 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial. Thank you!
@RC-Flight
@RC-Flight 4 жыл бұрын
I have found that my relatively new Mach3 pendant is not working well. The connection to my desk top computer is sketchy at times and the wire needs to be wiggles to get it to work one key no longer works, the button that is used by Peter to ref all. Any suggestion on a pendent that is of better quality and that is designed fro Mach3 that I can purchase?
@rtkracht
@rtkracht 6 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial Peter! Extremely interesting topic.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rusty
@jmukherjee3404
@jmukherjee3404 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter. You nailed it mate.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joy
@harrysplace9923
@harrysplace9923 3 жыл бұрын
If you run Screen4 in the XP Compatibility Mode the top bar no longer freezes the program.
@Alloush1980
@Alloush1980 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video..my question is, when you edit hotkeys for example x++ is 37 which is left arrow...according to pendant it is 102,,, does it still left arrow if I pressed in keyboard??? what will happen?
@vstraga
@vstraga 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Peter how do i configure axe "A" with mach3 joystick: the XYZ axes are fully functional, Thank you Best regards Vito Italy
@fredmueller7985
@fredmueller7985 8 ай бұрын
Hi Peter. I came across this video you made years ago. It seems the links to the Screen4 software on your website link are no longer working. Can you check it and advise. Thank you!
@johnlynch4655
@johnlynch4655 5 жыл бұрын
It's the standard 1024.set screen set. I also noticed when I open the mdi the up and down buttons don't work,meaning they don't increase by 5%, it's stuck at 10% . It's a 11pm here in upstate new york so I will play with it in the morning. Thanks for your fast response Peter.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 5 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity did you try downloading the screenset with everything already set up in it with the exception for the A keys which I don't have. Cheers Peter
@arieluc1
@arieluc1 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter. I am new to CNC and thanks to tutorials like yours I am making good progress. If possible I would like to solve a problem with setting "GO HOME", when I run it mach3 returns setting 0 (zero) Y axis, X axis and finally Z axis, this way it ends up breaking the milling cutter when hitting something, how could I modify the instruction so that it first takes the Z axis to 0 (zero) and then the other axes. Thanks again for your tutorials.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ariel I think if you do what you are suggesting you will continue to break cutters but also destroy your stock as the cutter is dragged over it. Cheers Peter.
@phillhinkler3174
@phillhinkler3174 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Peter, I had a problem with the menu freezing on a windows 7 pc as well and got it to work perfectly by setting the compatibility mode to XP sp3 and disabling desktop composition. Cheers Phill
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil, Just gave it a try and it no longer locks up but the drop down menus only appear if you drag the mouse below the menu you selected. Not perfect but a vast improvement for sure. Better than locking up. I'm using Windows 7 pc bit. Cheers Peter
@drmkiwi
@drmkiwi 6 жыл бұрын
Very thorough. Thankks. I wish this video was up when I originally set up Mach3! Haha. (Good feedback too about Screen4 instead of the standard screen editor and will help if I proceed with... I'm thinking of having a separate monitor just for the table display (upper right hand corner of the standard 1024 screen set) The existing one is very small (especially so for a table that takes a full sheet of ply) and I think it would be good to see what is happening as well as having access to all the other controls. (I'm aware you can switch screens, but this doesn't seem as convenient as having two monitors) Cheers, David
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks David Sounds interesting. Cheers Peter
@gerryp4312
@gerryp4312 3 жыл бұрын
For those without a pendant, is there a way to setoemdro so that it works on the screen tab? would be great if it did, Thanks Peter, Great Videos!
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 3 жыл бұрын
You could add a button to the screen and add what ever feature you want to it. Alternatively you could assign a key in your keyboard to do it instead. Cheers Peter
@wernerboden239
@wernerboden239 5 жыл бұрын
I will take a look at Screen4. Currently, I'm using MachScreen V1.70, but I have some issues, because it seems, I cannot change the Z and diameter wear, in the toolset woth a OEM DRO input box. Right now, I am stuck to a button with vb script code SetToolParam
@U_Kamrc
@U_Kamrc 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of work to prepare such a video. Thank you! I am looking at the hose at left behind you (LOL): maybe it is interesting to make a video on dust exhaust system (not only dust brush). And a modest proposal: maybe you should change the mouse pointer to yellow. Sometimes it is not clearly visible (i.e. if swithing betweenn video and making notes) where are you clicking. Thumb up.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
I will one day look at the dust collector. I had a look at the mouse pointer and can make it bigger but I haven't figured out making it a nice bright color. Will investigate further. Cheers Peter
@U_Kamrc
@U_Kamrc 6 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at www.rw-designer.com/cursor-maker. Wonder if tansparent circle can be made.
@MegaTopdogs
@MegaTopdogs 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Have a great day.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Geert
@Dios-di8zd
@Dios-di8zd 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I just trying to get any information on have to set up ATC tab (screen) in mach3 but don't get any helpful information. Can you help with that have you set it up?
@IH1940HAY
@IH1940HAY 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter again you have done an excellent job in explaining and showing how to get this all done. I have a question, I discovered that I can use a numeric keypad that connects with a USB plug, and have successfully used the up, down, and left right buttons to move the router around, this is a good deal not having to be tied to the keyboard all the time. Now since i’m a penny pincher and really don’t want to splurge on a real Pendant, could the other buttons on the numeric keypad be modified to do a few of the functions like a real pendant? I think this would be an excellent tool for these of us who aren’t ready for a pendant for any number of reasons.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
A USB numeric keypad was my original pendant and they work well. The pendant I use is basically a keypad in a much better configuration. You can use the process I show to configure the keypad keys to do whatever function you want. Cheers Peter
@mtabernig
@mtabernig 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a pendent like that but on bluetooth or wifi.?..i could not find one.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 4 жыл бұрын
There are wireless pendants for use with Mach3 but not in this style.
@johnnycantrell2327
@johnnycantrell2327 2 жыл бұрын
I have a wireless pendant and the buttons don't respond like you show when it says select button. Should it be like the one you are using?
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't know. Without your wireless pendant to test I have no idea. Cheers Peter
@TruongNguyen-je1vl
@TruongNguyen-je1vl 3 жыл бұрын
Hello a. I want Mach3 to receive the correct coordinate signal from the Step Hybrid Encoder (EZI Secvor)
@grantclarke4713
@grantclarke4713 6 жыл бұрын
Great information... Thanks.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@gerdrutkowski4732
@gerdrutkowski4732 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, Very nice and educational video. I have a different model Pendulum from the same manufacturer, HANDWHEEL CONTROLLER 4AXIS. II have been able to review and adjust the hot keys as your video for every function except; 1- I have no flashing LED when turning the hand-wheel. 2- no response on MOYION STEP 3- no response on MOG SELECT When selecting the buttons the LED’s will go to another line item with each ,click of the button. “ but no reactions” Are there hot keys and how do I get to them? I have been able to check & reset hot keys for all functions except the 3 / or more as noted above. By chance do you have a video for this model or can you guide me and others to get these functions operational? Thanking you in advance Stay safe, Gerd
@gerdrutkowski4732
@gerdrutkowski4732 3 жыл бұрын
2- should be -No response on MOTION STEP
@marianodiaz461
@marianodiaz461 4 жыл бұрын
Hi; could you please show us how to add another axis , and change it’s designation? Thank you!
@airgunningyup
@airgunningyup 3 жыл бұрын
interesting issue with mach 3 since swapping steppers.. On my mach 3 part display , all my parts are backwards .. the Z axis is correct, but x and y are flipped .. ALl my jogs move the right way .. any ideas?
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 3 жыл бұрын
You have wired your steppers such that they are running backwards to how they used to run. Start from the beginning and move each axis one at a time using gcode and make sure the correct axis moves, it. Moves in the correct direction and the DRO reads correctly. Eg increases or decreases as it should. Cheers Peter
@airgunningyup
@airgunningyup 3 жыл бұрын
@@cncnutz thats most likely it , i probabby got lucky on the z , and the other 2 are reversed.. thanks.
@BlueOceanDesigns
@BlueOceanDesigns 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, Have you ever considered switching to or using UCCNC? I have 2 CNC's router/mill's and use Mach 3 on one and UCCNC on the other just to get an idea. I started of with Mach 3 way back but find UCCNC a little easier to work with and a lot more user friendly (if I can call it that). I know other people might and will differ but that is just my take on it. I didn't know about Screen4 so I am going to give it a whirl...Keep it up :)
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
I actually use UCCNC most of the time in my day to day machining.
@victorvazquez2794
@victorvazquez2794 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, Peter Thank you very much for your quick response, if you allow me another question? Would you recommend spindle refrigerated by air or by liquid? thank you very much, Victor.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
I personally like air cooled because I don't like mixing electricity and water. You can get lower speeds with water cooled but there are ways around that by adding additional fan cooling to the spindle. Water cooled spindles are quieter but once you start cutting they are just as noisy as an air cooled spindle. Air cooled don't need pumps, buckets of water, antifreeze if you live in a cold climate where the water might freeze. That's just my thought. Cheers Peter
@Gaatech
@Gaatech 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one Peter
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@garyparrett8955
@garyparrett8955 Жыл бұрын
Having issues with auto tool zero after doing light
@IcanCwhatUsay
@IcanCwhatUsay 5 жыл бұрын
19:51 wait what? hahaha interesting. Great video, thank you for posting this. It's a HUGE Help!
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian
@jeffmorgan8031
@jeffmorgan8031 6 жыл бұрын
Peter - Great video, did you have a way to setup a hotkey on the pendant for an auto tool zero?
@johnlynch4655
@johnlynch4655 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter, I have the newest version of the same pendant as you, I got everything setup and working except the job buttons. I watched the video several times and did exactly what you said but still can't get that to work.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 5 жыл бұрын
Very strange John. If you email me the screenset you created I can have a look at it and see if there is anything obvious. Cncnutz65@gmail.com Cheers Peter
@dennismarsh750
@dennismarsh750 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, how do you get screen 4 read the pendant keys for changing the hotkeys. Thanks for posting!
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 3 жыл бұрын
As per the video. Press the key and the value will be filled into the box. Cheers Peter
@markosdamask
@markosdamask 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Peter very nice video. I wonder if i change the screenset must go to motor tuning tab and fix steps per min or leave it as it is
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark Motor tuning is unaffected by changing the screenset. I Du a video a while ago on changing screensets. Checkout episode 130. Cheers Peter
@valdineiribeiro4911
@valdineiribeiro4911 2 жыл бұрын
HELLO GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME AND VALDINEI I AM FROM BRAZIL I AM NOT FINDING THE MACREEN4 SOFTWARE FOR DAWLOAD YOU WOULD HAVE IT TO SEND ME THANK YOU VERY MUCH I WILL WAIT
@denouch358
@denouch358 6 жыл бұрын
Peter, what episode number are you referring to that this video is correcting? Thanks
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
We are going way back in time to episode 105. It was a quick video answer to a question about setting up my pendant and when I finished I thought I would make it public as an episode. I just didn't spot the problem with the screenset at the time. Cheers Peter
@richardfarwell6759
@richardfarwell6759 6 жыл бұрын
Seems there's a little less grey in the beard back then too. ;-) Thanks for revisiting this; I do enjoy being able to reconfigure my pendant. Your settings are very sensible.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Don't remind me. Cheers Peter
@garethroberts9804
@garethroberts9804 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, I bought a pendant, but when I tried to install it using screen 4, I could not get any of the keys to register as hot keys. Am I missing something here? The power light is on on the pendant
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
The pendant is nothing more than a keyboard in an odd shape. Windows should load a driver and then the keys should work. If you open a program like notepad or word and press keys then characters should appear and if the do then the pendant is working. I am assuming you have one the same as mine. Feel free to email me and we can have a look. Cheers Peter
@garethroberts9804
@garethroberts9804 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, It seems the pendant is NBG. I tried it in the PC running Windows XP and got the device not recognised message. After trying it in several USB ports I gave up. I then connected it to my laptop running windows 10. I got a message saying that the device is defective and Windows can’t recognise it. Obviously, I’ll have to go back to the seller. Cheers, Gareth
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Garth. Hope you get it sorted.
@neuxstone
@neuxstone 5 жыл бұрын
Great channel. Thanks!
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks David
@neuxstone
@neuxstone 5 жыл бұрын
I set up my pendant today with no problems thanks to your vid. I have a question about edge finding in Mach. Your videos are so clear and thorough, maybe you could explain the wizard and or other devices or method to accurately find X,Y as you would with a canned macro using touch probe perhaps?
@victorvazquez2794
@victorvazquez2794 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Peter, I am thinking of changing the spindle for one with a frequency converter, I do not know if there is any video, but I wanted to make a proposal to upload a video of how to connect it on the controller board and the adjustments that have to be made. do in mach 3. No more greetings and waiting for that video. Thank you very much. Victor.
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Victor Last year I made a video series about installing my new spindle. There are 7 videos and they cover everything you are looking for. You can download addional info from my website. Just follow the link under each video and you will be taken to the relevant page. Hope it helps Cheers Peter kzfaq.info/sun/PLSBDMgE5ym9d2uNIRG9s_VR9VeAI-Gx9i
@johnlynch4655
@johnlynch4655 5 жыл бұрын
No I did not, I just followed along with episode 208.
@cirilazenko3212
@cirilazenko3212 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter Great tutorial, very useful. I like script of -Auto tool zero- good idea. But I have a persistent problem with script of -Jog rate- 10% and 100%. - Error on line 1 - Argument not optional -. Can you please check if i wrote down well the script: SetOEMDRO 3.10 Thank you very much. Greeting from Slovenia. Bojan
@cirilazenko3212
@cirilazenko3212 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter I figure out, i put a dot, instead of comma. Now it is working well. Sorry. Bojan
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you got it working. Cheers Peter
@cirilazenko3212
@cirilazenko3212 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@ZekkhYT
@ZekkhYT 2 жыл бұрын
link roto
@pwrouzaud
@pwrouzaud 6 жыл бұрын
All I can say is, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!
@cncnutz
@cncnutz 6 жыл бұрын
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