How to Never Lose at Tic Tac Toe

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3 жыл бұрын

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@TheosDeorum 3 жыл бұрын

I was half expecting him to say "Step 1: Don't lose"

@rj5848 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly thats expected but he needs to make the video interesting so yeah

@BabySonicGT 3 жыл бұрын

Half

@LeventK 3 жыл бұрын

Chess in a nutshell

@ferretappreciator 3 жыл бұрын

That's a half as interesting fact, thank you!

@azizzizo1 3 жыл бұрын

Half as expecting

@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 3 жыл бұрын

"How do I know all this? Well I read the tic tac toe wikipedia page" And teachers say it's the most inaccurate source on the internet

@Jonasm501 3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure he paid the guy from Wendover to read the Wikipedia page.

@rj5848 3 жыл бұрын

We all belong to youtube university which is better

@LeventK 3 жыл бұрын

Actually I found the strat when I was a kid.

@blankb01-_-3 3 жыл бұрын

Hey it's you again

@1.4142 3 жыл бұрын

My resume: Wikipedia scholar, KZfaq university graduate, Reddit detective, Google maps geographer.

@johnchessant3012 3 жыл бұрын

3:32 "Mathematicians, who apparently have nothing better to do" As a math major, this is both hurtful and true.

@TotalDrganMania 3 жыл бұрын

As an engineer major, yeah makes sense

@JohnSmith-kj2od 3 жыл бұрын

I believe game theory is worth that insult

@Banom7a 3 жыл бұрын

cs major can relate

@SpecterNeverSpectator 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-kj2od game theory deserves every insult.

@l1mbo69 3 жыл бұрын

@@SpecterNeverSpectator.. sounds like I'm missing something here Why exactly is game theory hated

@sionsmedia8249 3 жыл бұрын

I do like that Giraffe of Interesting is becoming a real full time character.

@ThemakaroniLV 3 жыл бұрын

They could bring back corollas tho

@YoloMonstaaa 3 жыл бұрын

Giraffe as interesting

@milotheviewer 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know what you’re talking about. Giraffe as Interesting has always been an integral part of the show and is already established in the lore as a recurring character

@eelsemaj99 3 жыл бұрын

what are you on about. he’s always been here. as has calf as interesting

@krischan7950 3 жыл бұрын

I'm here for a different debate, either way it's established that right now giraffe as interesting is a full time real character. So what's his pay? Is the wage hourly or by commission, is it full time or part time. I NEED THE ANSWERS PEOPLE

@bradenculver7457 3 жыл бұрын

Figured this out as a kid and became a tic tac toe god Yes I peaked in elementary school

@dzikri8940 3 жыл бұрын

same, but i used to play middle

@FalseRadiation 3 жыл бұрын

The trick is to not spam it or they'll eventually go first

@Raf1507 3 жыл бұрын

Same I was the best in my skl

@PixelatedShadow 2 жыл бұрын

@@FalseRadiation if they go first then you just have to go middle and then go inbetween to force a tie

@jarlfenrir 2 жыл бұрын

Same. Actually everyone was confused why I'm not going middle in the first move, so THEY moved in the middle, so most of the time game ended with a tie. When I was second, the output of the game was more random since I didn't figure out the sure tie strategy for some reason.

@ordinary_magician 3 жыл бұрын

I remember discovering some of these on my own as a kid and feeling like I’m some kind of genius or something

@iafozzac 3 жыл бұрын

Same, I found out about most of this by myself as a kid

@tavasp 3 жыл бұрын

I was pooping one day and was board so I decided to look at every possible tik tax toe outcome

@pearspeedruns 3 жыл бұрын

@@tavasp Tik tax toe sounds like something on the IRS website for kids

@tavasp 3 жыл бұрын

@@pearspeedruns lol

@BigBoss-sm9xj 3 жыл бұрын

Well in my mind youre still a genius

@BelcarrigFarm 3 жыл бұрын

Both giraffe as interesting and calf as interesting in one episode What's this , a crossover episode?

@eelsemaj99 3 жыл бұрын

well it was a long time coming. both are long running returning characters. should have predicted it really

@OrangeC7 3 жыл бұрын

@@eelsemaj99 Exactly, I'm not sure why everyone is so surprised that these two characters are in this video

@iamverybigsad 3 жыл бұрын

BoJack referense, nice

@JasperNLxD 3 жыл бұрын

But it was the medium-necked Giraffe. Wasn't that the extinct one?

@eelsemaj99 3 жыл бұрын

@@JasperNLxD he was only acting at being extinct

@Soykaf_ 3 жыл бұрын

once me and my friends figured this out in middle school, nobody ever won a single game of tic-tac-toe ever again.

@BigBoss-sm9xj 3 жыл бұрын

Oof the secret was out and everyone lived a disappointing life until they died

@Raf1507 3 жыл бұрын

That why I never told anyone in primary skl

@RGC_animation 2 жыл бұрын

Then place it in middle, it's another solution

@brambl3014 2 жыл бұрын

Took you middle school to figure that?

@tancg3015 2 жыл бұрын

There's a bit more to it then starting either in the middle or a corner. Start from the side to stump someone who thinks they got the basics figured out. Mathematically, the odds of winning are smaller but psychologically this works better against more experienced players. This line of play is covered in the wiki page but not the one way you could end up in a winning "fork" position when you do not go first. It requires your opponent to make a mistake that only veteran players tend to make. Tic-tac-toe is figured out for sure, just not quite in the way most people say it is, which goes for much else in life too. Have fun working it out!

@lincselo 3 жыл бұрын

That's why where I'm from, we always played tic-tac-toe in an "infinite" board (like a whole page), where you have to collect five marks in one line. That way the game is much more interesting, with way more possible outcomes.

@noamz9527 3 жыл бұрын

And math notebooks in school were perfect for it.

@eliturner7963 3 жыл бұрын

I think you would like Go. It’s basically what you just described.

@lincselo 3 жыл бұрын

@@eliturner7963 Maybe, I'll try....

@lincselo 3 жыл бұрын

@@noamz9527 Exactly, the magic is in the simplicity!

@oceanman_8370 2 жыл бұрын

Tic tac toe isn't fun on its own but it makes a good building block for better versions of it

@Derek-kj9mt 3 жыл бұрын

I never lost at Tic Tac Toe, and now everyone knows my secrets. Thanks HAI.

@edgybitch2177 2 жыл бұрын

Stop being boring and learn side theory then

@veetvoojagig389 3 жыл бұрын

5:31 The girl in red goes through a whole bunch of emotions in a few seconds! 😂

@iwatchwithnoads7480 2 жыл бұрын

There's Niagara Falls down there

@lilodinson2731 3 жыл бұрын

This video just showed me how to never lose at Tic Tac Toe

@oumarkoume7238 3 жыл бұрын

@@LNB627 LUMBAGO

@cyberlemon9840 3 жыл бұрын

What a coincidence! Me too!

@TracyNorrell 3 жыл бұрын

This comment told me that @LlL Odinson saw how to never lose at tic-tac-toe.

@lilodinson2731 3 жыл бұрын

@@LNB627 I think so too

@cyberlemon9840 3 жыл бұрын

@@TracyNorrell This comment told that @Tracy Norrel saw how @LIL Odinson saw how to never lose at tic-tac-toe.

@iphoneusr2808 3 жыл бұрын

I’m boutta win every argument ever with this knowledge

@lil0of 3 жыл бұрын

You: *starts argument* Person 2: no, you're wrong You: *moves to the left*

@heliumnetworking5103 3 жыл бұрын

Not at all

@qwertycookinup 3 жыл бұрын

2:15 Sheesh, that was brutal.

@AxxLAfriku 3 жыл бұрын

Let me get this straight: You comment something that is unrelated to the fact that I have two DANGEROUSLY DASHING girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest KZfaqr ever, having two hot girlfriends is really incredible. Yet you did not mention that at all. I am quite disappointed, dear qwe

@qwertycookinup 3 жыл бұрын

@@AxxLAfriku My Lord, please forgive me. I was merely pointing out a roast of utmost brutality to the individual who espoused it. I apologize for the inconsistency of me not recognizing the true magnificence of AxxL and his two DANGEROUSLY DASHING girlfriends.

@cappyjones 3 жыл бұрын

But true.

@obscure_alternatives 3 жыл бұрын

@@AxxLAfriku god I could not care less

@TTminh-wh8me 3 жыл бұрын

@@AxxLAfriku ?

@kimsmoke17 3 жыл бұрын

Up next: How to win at Newark Airport using: Wikipedia, transportation logistics, and red clay bricks.

@BetleyIsland36 3 жыл бұрын

You can't win at Newark, all you can do is suffer

@noobsquad2652 3 жыл бұрын

No no no that will be on the totally unrelated KZfaq channel Wendover productions because it's planes

@jeffbenton6183 3 жыл бұрын

@@noobsquad2652 But... bricks

@dandagames6030 3 жыл бұрын

you never win if you end up at Newark

@renderproductions1032 3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@ardendarling5613 2 жыл бұрын

One of the first things I ever coded (that wasn't a part of my course on how to code) was a bot that plays Tic Tac Toe against you and will always win or end in a draw if you're smart enough to counter it. It took a couple days to code it all, but I was really happy with the result considering that I wasn't following anyone else's instructions and figuring it out all on my own. Coding that bot has permanently burned Tic Tac Toe gameplay strategy into my brain.

@daviddasilva8326 2 жыл бұрын

That's pretty cool

@lizardlegend42 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to see the return of Girraffe as Interesting. By which isn't a big deal or anything, he's always been your mascot after all

@eelsemaj99 3 жыл бұрын

lovely to see the return of calf as interesting too. nice to see them finally in an episode together

@tomasvrana1703 3 жыл бұрын

This is one of the reasons why we never play 3x3, we always play 4x4 and 5x5 or even higer if we feel like it

@Bacopa68 3 жыл бұрын

Amazons is a better game. Numberphile has a good vid about Elwin Berlekamp and this game.

@hurktang 3 жыл бұрын

Do not play 4x4, it's a guaranteed win for the first player, it's not better, same for higher level tictactoe

@bruce4139 2 жыл бұрын

2x2 tic tac toe needs to be invented

@quasi-intellecual3790 2 жыл бұрын

@@bruce4139 first player will always win no matter what position

@iamdanyc93 2 жыл бұрын

@@hurktang you must be trolling

@wilyriley_ 3 жыл бұрын

2 uploads in 2 days? What universe is this?

@cplhotpockets 3 жыл бұрын

2:12 "Ultra weak, which coincidentally happens to be the same kind of jokes we have in these videos" Self burn those are rare

@TOSkwar22 3 жыл бұрын

Not on this channel they're not!

@sebastianoleary2743 3 жыл бұрын

@@TOSkwar22 literally exactly what I was going to say.

@quw1556 3 жыл бұрын

you must be new here

@cplhotpockets 3 жыл бұрын

@@quw1556 oh no I was with this guy since Wendover was his only Channel oh, I just thought of mentioning his humor style now

@AlienValkyrie 3 жыл бұрын

@@cplhotpockets wtf are you talking about, HAI and the guy from Wendover are totally different people

@jetpackboy0995 3 жыл бұрын

How to never lose at Tic Tac Toe: *Step 1: Don’t play it*

@FoxDren 3 жыл бұрын

Which you would already know if you'd watched The classic 1983 movie wargames.

@Xm0gcy 2 жыл бұрын

*Step 2: Done*

@petervh1301 3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Tic tac toe is called "boter, kaas en eieren" in Dutch, which means "butter, cheese and eggs". I have no idea why.

@Havron 3 жыл бұрын

This is the most Dutch thing ever.

@yeticoatabrigodeyeti160 2 жыл бұрын

Tasty breakfast,.

@ShahidKhan-uf8hd 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Sam, good job on this!! Even if a few few details were a bit of, you clearly put in a lot of effort to understand a complicated topic, and I appreciate you.

@riceyboi5606 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Sam, good job on this!! Even if a few details were a bit off, you clearly put in a lot of effort to understand a complicated topic, and I appreciate you.

@boiimcfacto2364 3 жыл бұрын

What detail was off?

@who2807 3 жыл бұрын

🗣

@61rampy65 3 жыл бұрын

@@boiimcfacto2364 You are new here, aren't you?

@amylau4086 3 жыл бұрын

@@boiimcfacto2364 Here, this is what Ricey Boi was talking about: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gZ-XobWkmJmyf58.html

@boiimcfacto2364 3 жыл бұрын

@@61rampy65 GODDAMIT how could I forget 😂 Ngl feeling like a disgrace to the HAI fandom 😭😂

@__skillz 3 жыл бұрын

Sam's getting pretty good at this KZfaq thing, would be a shame if he uploaded to the wrong channel soon...

@funnycat9962 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know what you mean. Sam only has one channel.

@jakerussell135 3 жыл бұрын

@@funnycat9962 yeah, theres sam and the dork at wendover productions

@tealmer3528 3 жыл бұрын

He already did it once, I got the notification. He just took down he video right away and put it on the correct channel.

@TransportofPerth 3 жыл бұрын

@@tealmer3528 It’s a JOKE, we all know he did it, on pupose too after the first time.

@mirzaahmed6589 3 жыл бұрын

He literally only did that once. Stop banging on about it.

@Hrydra 3 жыл бұрын

“and the calf wins in purple” it’s clearly blue but only purple when it’s out of focus

@patrikwihlke4170 3 жыл бұрын

I first read the title as "How to Never Lose a Tic Tac"... Definitely got me curious lol

@juniormynos9457 3 жыл бұрын

I figured out the tik tak toe 'never lose' strategy independently 20 years ago. Also you can have a never lose scenario from starting at the middle point. And if you play against an opponent who knows these strategies and always plays first, you can draw all the games no matter which moves he takes. This is probably why there is no tik tak toe championships anywhere. All games will lead to a tie😂

@p_mouse8676 3 жыл бұрын

Actually, ultimate tic tac toe is a very nice variant, which is basically a game of tic tac toe in every field of a game of tic tac toe. It makes the game all of a sudden VERY interesting.

@chrischeng9145 3 жыл бұрын

What if they tie

@peppermint_8 3 жыл бұрын

Giraffe as interesting is BACK! Wooo!

@eelsemaj99 3 жыл бұрын

what are you on about?? he’s always been here

@bbt305 3 жыл бұрын

I knew this. Regardless, your content I hold to a high standard because your channels are many ppl fav. This felt a bit like a copout . I do appreciate the video though!

@w6wdh 3 жыл бұрын

Back in 1980, a Computer Science class at Stanford had us write programs in 4 different languages, including APL, a dense, math oriented language from IBM. I wrote a one line APL program to play tic-tac-toe that always won or tied. The program mirrored and rotated the grid to match patterns in 3x3 matrices that mapped out all possible moves, just as described in this video.

@FoxDren 3 жыл бұрын

"the only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?"

@Havron 3 жыл бұрын

Global Thermonuclear War is a strong solved game, as there is only one winning move.

@LZ-zi3ll 3 жыл бұрын

My first thought as well haha

@Tastical 3 жыл бұрын

I was playing google tic tac toe and got bored after a 20 win streak and this is the first thing i see when i open youtube.

@Holmaaron 3 жыл бұрын

Not surprised at this awesome crossover of giraffe as interesting and calf as interesting, just very pleased.

@stonedsoul3469 Жыл бұрын

hilarious video... you guys ROCK!!!

@cpasr8065 3 жыл бұрын

I remember discovering this, and destroying my classmates for weeks until they got suspicious of why I always never lost if I played a corner (I used to occasionally place my move somewhere else to mislead them).

@joeym5243 3 жыл бұрын

Alternate title: how to never have fun playing tic tac toe again

@vladan9374 3 жыл бұрын

Fun is overrated

@Hennessy198 3 жыл бұрын

When HAI ends up teaching you game theory in 5 mins

@Krishna-gb5ye 3 жыл бұрын

How to win at tic tac toe? "Move to the corner."

@genethebean7597 3 жыл бұрын

I actually thought this was gonna be another brick scenario but nope actual Tic-Tac-Toe strategy guide.

@kathanshah8305 3 жыл бұрын

2077: How to never lose at chess

@Modo942000 3 жыл бұрын

This video unironically helped me study for my upcoming AI exam which covers this specific topic. Half as Interesting just became fully interesting.

@OG_CK2018 3 жыл бұрын

I actually discovered these myself when was I doing some practice/analysis on this game to defeat my friends

@rashmipatra9832 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, now I can always make a bet with my lil bro

@wopadoop7568 3 жыл бұрын

Bro I dont even need to watch the whole video to know that this is going to be a banger video

@AutismAndy 3 жыл бұрын

Finally a video i can appreciate and use in the real world

@TransportSupremo 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to say myself and my friend figured this out in school while "studying"

@smokert5555 3 жыл бұрын

We may not know the technical jargon, but any self respecting adult figured all this out by the time they hit adulthood.

@jfitz6517 3 жыл бұрын

"Well I didn't read it, I paid a writer to read it for me because years earlier I read the Wikipedia page on Capitalism." 🤣

@sarmadali7191 3 жыл бұрын

ikr, giraffe as interesting is my favourite mascot since I was a child!

@musicforalifetime133 3 жыл бұрын

this is one of the best transitions to the sponsor I have ever seen

@armitoth4147 3 жыл бұрын

Me: I have to study for the next weeks exam Also me:watching vid about How to Never Lose at Tic Tac Toe

@hououinkyouma77 3 жыл бұрын

Next week ? I have an exam tommorow 😂😂

@thetimetraveller2671 3 жыл бұрын

I have to study for five exams (writing them all within 14 days), and I'm watching this too. I think I'm screwed

@houseplant1016 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I feel the pain.

@littleblackduck3134 3 жыл бұрын

Thanx for the advice, I think i'm ready to go pro now

@aishwindersingh8147 3 жыл бұрын

Love the vids

@barrbarbuzie3359 3 жыл бұрын

Minimax? damn i just learned that on Python

@abeeragarwal4516 3 жыл бұрын

i looked at the title of this video, my eyes widened and i immediately clicked on it

@cipherxen2 2 жыл бұрын

"Universe has at least 1000 atoms." Seems legit.

@Charly_5V 3 жыл бұрын

Pls make a guide for Rock, paper, scisors XDDDDDDDDDD

@harishrajnish7207 3 жыл бұрын

have you seen an anime named "no game no life"? go see it if you haven't, you get your answer, and ya you're welcome.

@Charly_5V 3 жыл бұрын

@@harishrajnish7207 yes i have, but i need the half as interesting reboot XDDDDDDDDD

@harishrajnish7207 3 жыл бұрын

@@Charly_5V nice, actually I would also like to see that.

@joycejames8461 3 жыл бұрын

The major problem would be how Giraffe and Calf can demonstrate the hand shapes.

@nimitberry5257 3 жыл бұрын

I remember learning min max algorithm in class. This was a very interesting way to explain it . 👍

@TheElusiveReality Жыл бұрын

giraffe has interesting is genuinely a recurring character at this point

@lemerbrix1375 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this, Sam, now I have 10+ people mad at me for destroying them in tic tac toe

@FireStriker_ 3 жыл бұрын

Strange game. The only wining move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess

@oceanstaiga5928 3 жыл бұрын

I remember doing this as a kid and feeling frustrated that the other kids sometimes were so dumb to not take the middle one multiple times in a row.

@Inspirator_AG112 2 жыл бұрын

When you figure out the three-corner strategy.

@Kangaroo693 3 жыл бұрын

The Most Important answer. Now I am Undefeated

@harishrajnish7207 3 жыл бұрын

"chess is nothing more than a game of tic tac toe" there I said it, who can recognize the reference.

@davidothecheetoh6832 3 жыл бұрын

no game no life

@harishrajnish7207 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidothecheetoh6832 true man of culture, I respect you.

@noahsiddall1450 3 жыл бұрын

"Do you want to totally ruin a fun little game from your childhood?" Monopoly did that when I realized it was a game AND the current state of the global economy. Don't get me started about the card game called "War".

@FoxDren 3 жыл бұрын

Never buy hotels on monopoly

@balinttoth9287 3 жыл бұрын

I always like your videos, because Giraffe As Interesting is always in them. I like how he is in all of your videos and has always bee n a mascot of this channel.

@ravinmarokef 3 жыл бұрын

Yay for introducing subgame perfect Nash equilibria!!

@eribetra 3 жыл бұрын

@qwasr1278 3 жыл бұрын

@angelicaschuyler1011 3 жыл бұрын

@gameenthusiast12 3 жыл бұрын

YOU BEAT ME

@aaronl19 3 жыл бұрын

@emmie657 3 жыл бұрын

@@gameenthusiast12 ruined it

@benish3890 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I came here for something half as interesting- this was way more than half!

@FrozenBusChannel 3 жыл бұрын

So from now on, all tic-tac-toe games will be ties.

@JDW1110 3 жыл бұрын

I already knew this strategy. Now maybe my opponents will know the strategy. Thanks a lot HAI.

@LeventK 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, very very basic queen's gambit.

@SuperGarryGamer 3 жыл бұрын

I actually managed to figure that out when I was bored in school, didn't know it was the best strategy

@Expat47 3 жыл бұрын

Back in the 50's there was a computer at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago that played TTT and never lost. I'm not sure but I think it's still there and, if it is, it's the size of a closet!

@TheEnde124 3 жыл бұрын

great explanation to the minimax algorithm!

@siliconhawk9293 Жыл бұрын

as a computer science student, i loved this video finally something i can relate to.

@rhlhappy 2 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how subtly the film "Crash" was able to tell John Nash's story

@aniruddhxie2k215 3 жыл бұрын

This was so much needed But not now

@vtron9832 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sam.

@blinksgood 3 жыл бұрын

Already knew this. Taught myself how to never lose

@aidengamed3617 2 жыл бұрын

2:15 "which is also the types of jokes we use in these videos" XDDDDDD

@brighamruud5090 3 жыл бұрын

Yes please

@muhammadarshaman6366 3 жыл бұрын

Idk why but I find this topic quite interesting

@bartholomewdan 3 жыл бұрын

I find it half as interesting as other topics.

@BelcarrigFarm 3 жыл бұрын

@@bartholomewdan COMEDY GENIUS

@eddiemac5072 3 жыл бұрын

The comedy in this piece was A+++

@elliottstirrop4353 3 жыл бұрын

okay but i’m impressed that i figured this out as a child

@E1craZ4life 3 жыл бұрын

Personally, I prefer 4 by 4 by 4 Tic Tac Toe where the boards are on stacked shelves.

@migueljuarez448 3 жыл бұрын

Petition to have a Giraffe as Interesting video

@arjunpersaud9283 3 жыл бұрын

The Explanation actually started within the First 30 Seconds. I was so surprised I restarted the video

@flighted2513 3 жыл бұрын

Figured all of this out as a kid. Tic Tac Toe is very simple. Two competent people will tie every time.

@dantetre 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Sam, good job on this!! Even if a few details were a bit off, you clearly put in a lot of effort to understand a complicated topic, and I appreciate you.

@xxmemestar69xx82 3 жыл бұрын

I thought everyone knew this. Just have the first turn.

@corro202 3 жыл бұрын

Great video.

@tctrainconstruct2592 2 жыл бұрын

basically, if you go first, go in a corner, and there are 2 continuations: -if they move on ANY edge, play in the center -otherwise, try playing in the opposite corner, otherwise just play in a random corner. And then continue by playing "naively": win if you can, avoid losing. Also, a game like chess could theoretically be solved, but it would require a lot of work. Antichess was only weakly solved (White has a mate in

@Goatcha_M 3 жыл бұрын

Same thing if you go centre first, if they go middle of any side you have won, if they go corner its a drawer. Worked that out when I was 10 or so. Also, Noughts always go first in Noughts and Crosses.