How to oil rotary valves on an antique trumpet

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jwhill7

13 жыл бұрын

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@RockStarOscarStern634 2 жыл бұрын

It has Rotary Valves just like a French Horn

@RockStarOscarStern634 2 жыл бұрын

It's an Alto Trumpet. The Rotary Valves make it easier to play w/ precision.

@valvetrom 12 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the F trumpet scales,goes very high.

@louramoreira 7 жыл бұрын

I've one alto rotary trumpet (Eb) by Joseph Lidl and lovet !!!! Your seams very good. Many thanks for this video 😜

@jwhill7 11 жыл бұрын

What I meant by a "small adjustment" is making sure that the bottom plate is seated completely and evenly; also that the cut marks on the plate line up exactly with those on the casing. For proper seating, I firmly press with my fingers evenly all around the circumference of the plate. Also, as you screw on the bottom cover, the cover will help push the bottom plate into place. So it is importance to screw on the bottom cover firmly, even if you back it off a hair at the end.

@jwhill7 12 жыл бұрын

The F and Eb trumpet of the 19th century played in the same range as the modern Bb and C trumpets, in spite of their longer tube length. They played in the upper partials, like a French horn, and they were fingured that way. A C scale from written middle C: 0-1-0-1-0-1/2-2-0,

@jwhill7 12 жыл бұрын

The mouthpiece was much like a modern trumpet mouthpiece. On the demo recording I used a mouthpiece with deep elliptical cup. But the shank is the same as a modern trumpet mouthpiece shank, and I use the same mouthpiece on a modern Bb rotary valve trumpet.

@valvetrom 12 жыл бұрын

could you please enclose a pic of the MP. I had an old Eb fanfare MP bought in Munich with a cornet. It had a sharp turnover from the kettle to the "bore". I have on my WenzlMeinl rotary C valvetrombone a similar but bigger MP. The valves are conical, press fittings like on your trumpet and clockwork encapsulated springs.

@brunolunakisic4891 9 жыл бұрын

thanks a lot!!!!

@valvetrom 12 жыл бұрын

Are your valves conical?,i e low diameter slightly bigge than r the top diameter? Could you give a sound sample of this beautiful instrument?

@warlordjay4416 2 жыл бұрын

Used this video to refurbish an old Soviet Ukranian rotary.

@jwhill7 12 жыл бұрын

Yes

@valvetrom 12 жыл бұрын

so the MP are quite small, like a Bb tpts?

@valvetrom 12 жыл бұрын

OK thanks

@jwhill7 12 жыл бұрын

No the valves are not conical. I play a demonstration of this trumpet in a video on my channel (jwhill7) called "F trumpet demo." In the video, this is "trumpet number 1." I have two long Eb trumpets from the same era and several short-form F trumpets that I plan to offer on eBay.

@ScaramouchedaVinci 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks . But why you are not mor carefuly with the trumpet? On this table it becomes scratches!

@georgeroberts442 10 ай бұрын

If anyone here would help me, I'd really appreciate it! I have a Lidl rotary valve alto trumpet which I love to play. Unfortunately, I broke a valve spring. I can't find a replacement spring. If anyone knows where I can get a replacement flat spring for one of these trumpets, please reply. Thanks!!!

@saxgirlhornboy6458 8 ай бұрын

The Brass and Woodwind Shop has a YT video, How to Replace Internal Springs on a Rotary Trumpet. They got new flat coiled springs from The Clock Works in Schenectady, NY.

@per-erikberge5557 11 жыл бұрын

Great! The small adjustments in the end? Important for me to know? I intend to to this job on a similar antique baritone horn. Per-Erik, Norway,

@oscarcarson6215 3 жыл бұрын

a tip: you can watch series at flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching a lot of movies lately.

@talonkellen3043 3 жыл бұрын

@Oscar Carson Definitely, have been using flixzone for since december myself =)

@eligutierrez8789 8 жыл бұрын

do you have to use 3-in-1 oil for a top action rotary valve cornet? It's a Russian made one from about 1974

@jwhill7 8 жыл бұрын

+Eli Gutierrez You might need to use a somewhat lighter oil, such as a commercial preparation specially designated for rotary valves. Those oils come in various weights. The basic principle is that you should use the heaviest oil that does not slow down the valve action. Except for really modern instruments, rotary valves traditionally relied on the oil to complete the air seal, because the rotors did not actually touch or rub against the cylinder walls. If 3-in-1 slows down your valves, then try a regular rotary valve oil.

@tamasfoldesi2358 5 ай бұрын

@@jwhill7 Modern ones don't touch the casings either, because it'd make the action much worse. They just have a smaller gap between.