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How to: One Fast Shooting Method in Archery

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Armin Hirmer

Armin Hirmer

7 жыл бұрын

Some asked me, if I can show how I hold the arrows and draw as shown in the video here:
• Archery Practice: Fast...
I try and do my best, but I am not Lars :)
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Armin Hirmer
Malta Archery
100 Triq Annibale Preca
Lija LJA 1915
Malta

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@sheikorbit
@sheikorbit 4 жыл бұрын
Lars Anderson's video is good to watch; yours is good to learn from. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@hafizinkhairi389
@hafizinkhairi389 4 жыл бұрын
sheikorbit honestly I become one of the Archery expert I learn from both of them...
@ap0lmc
@ap0lmc 4 жыл бұрын
You are a master of the bow
@Jdflana1
@Jdflana1 6 жыл бұрын
Mr Himer you are a wonder. In less than an hour you explain one of the mysteries of the ages. I never fail to learn from each of your programs, but this time I was held with a feeling of wonder. Thank you very much. It’s not often that I can feel that boy like wonder at 77. You have my eternal admiration.
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
thank you so much Jimmie. Comments like this keep me going!
@naufalnoorizan1763
@naufalnoorizan1763 5 жыл бұрын
Did he shoot arrows with three fingers or thumbs
@jamesoneill3922
@jamesoneill3922 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArminHirmer Yes well dome Mr Hirmer. Superb!
@js1089ss
@js1089ss 5 жыл бұрын
You know I've been actually looking for quite a while to figure out how the fictional hawkeye and legolas shot quickly and all I got was Lars Andersen which is too ancient of a skill. I have problems figuring out the rest position and you inspire me with this method to be able to even use a whisker biscuit. You are calm, collective and very informative and not a you don't know anything, this is your ABCs kind of person. Great video thanks
@markdezuba
@markdezuba 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your instructional presentation. And thanks for not bad mouthing Lars. The archery community needs to grow up in regard to Lars. I believe your shooting a 22lb draw. I too torn my shoulder rotator cuff and I had to start shooting a 15 lb draw. I am working back up to my normal draw. But trick shooting archery is not about draw weight but technique. Again, thank you. Blessings - Mark DeZuba
@josephtuttle1470
@josephtuttle1470 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 22lb bow. I can get so very much practice in it. The firearm sport community trains with .22 rounds...funny coincidence. I can shoot my 22lb bow hundreds of times in a sitting....much better for prwctice than a 40lb plus
@kovarilaszlo3146
@kovarilaszlo3146 4 жыл бұрын
I found that doing it on the right side of the bow helps a lot on your right hand. You don't rotate your wrist, instead you rotate the arrow in between your fingers. This way you can keep your index finger in just as much as the other two. It was better for me than what you do, because you have the main weight on your middle finger when drawing. My way I have much more power with my index. I guess it's easier drawing heavier bows this way.
@blindsquirrel7802
@blindsquirrel7802 3 жыл бұрын
Lars for inspiration. Armin for instruction. I always learn something watching your videos. Thank you, good sir. Merry Christmas.
@paweszymonjasinski7158
@paweszymonjasinski7158 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually true sir. There's also Charlie from @Running Archery who actually inspired me to do archery just to have fun.
@user-ei3er6yb6k
@user-ei3er6yb6k 3 жыл бұрын
Единственный чувак, который нормально все показал и объяснил! Спасибо.
@rondumontier1187
@rondumontier1187 5 жыл бұрын
I tried speed shooting in the past. But now I can try better. One of the best videos I seen. I need to put this to use.
@isaiahwhite4411
@isaiahwhite4411 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for breaking this down. I’ve been wanting to learn speed shooting and how to get faster. 💪
@mojo_joju
@mojo_joju 4 жыл бұрын
Truly, one of the modern masters of archery
@Roamstrong
@Roamstrong 3 жыл бұрын
Bless this video, I've wanted to see a POV fast shooting video for ages. Finally makes sense to me!
@muthatrucka5161
@muthatrucka5161 2 жыл бұрын
I like Lars video it got me interested in archery. Covid lockdown made me buy a compound bow. But your video showed me how to shoot rapidly. That was a secret Lars was hiding. Thank you
@jareth7456
@jareth7456 4 жыл бұрын
If you shoot off the right you don't need to lean left just put the index finger against the arrow to keep it in place and you can move the bow any direction. I think the Egyptians did it that way.
@eliaspeli903
@eliaspeli903 5 жыл бұрын
If you put the arrow on the right side on top of your thumb you can hold your left index finger on top of the arrow. This way you can have the bow in any angle, and when you shoot just lift up the index finger at the same time as you release
@FratelloGabriel
@FratelloGabriel 4 жыл бұрын
Wow.... You are incredible 😲... Very strong archer 😎
@papilurk1675
@papilurk1675 2 жыл бұрын
I REALLY NEEDED THIS VIDEO THANK YOU FOR THE AWESOME TEACHING VIDEO! THANK YOU!
@jareth7456
@jareth7456 4 жыл бұрын
I just grab a handful and shoot slavic from the right side canting to the right i have no idea why lars cants the bow opposite the whole idea i thought is too be able to just grab a bunch of arrows and start putting holes in souls . I don't line them up either i grab the arrows with the thumb and index middle and ring fingers from the quiver pinch the first one with the thumb and index finger and roll it forward with index finger along the arrow pointing forward pressing the nock into the pad of the thumb with the middle and ring finger this way you can feel the orientation of the nock to see if it needs a slight roll but basically you simply drag the string across the thumb pad and onto the nock, there is only one position that the nock can end up in where it won't go right onto the string so when you press the nock into your thumb pad you feel if it ended up in this orientation and a slight roll will correct it.
@jareth7456
@jareth7456 4 жыл бұрын
Ok Armin since I have sooo much respect for you as an archer I am gonna say this one time, put your thumb nail inside the nock on one side on one of the nock tines and you should be able to figure it out from there. Love your videos by the way.
@williamsamuels8371
@williamsamuels8371 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your tutorial. Easy to understand & my speed will improve. You da mackman macka bloodstain!
@user-yd1gf2jj8m
@user-yd1gf2jj8m 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, great tutorial
@jonaslagander5405
@jonaslagander5405 3 ай бұрын
Nice! Could you make a video where you explain how to best hold many arrows in bow hand and grab them fast? I've seen archers holding up to like 18 arrows in a special "holding pattern" and grab them in a schematic order to shoot them rapidly.
@DerekBartlettBeorn
@DerekBartlettBeorn 3 жыл бұрын
This is great. The thing I can't really see though is how you're pinning the arrow/s against the right side of the bow when you're holding extras (as opposed to the typical slavic with the forefinger behind the fletches), like for example are your fingers/hand curved or something? This is a method I'd certainly like to try, just trying to get the details.
@awesomereviews1561
@awesomereviews1561 5 жыл бұрын
Lars Andersen also has a modified nock on the arrows (much wider than modern one or the one that Armin uses) so it’s a lot faster to get ready than with modern arrows.
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 5 жыл бұрын
of course, he did a lot of testing with many variations of nock designs
@larswright1015
@larswright1015 Жыл бұрын
Thank You
@John-sz7vf
@John-sz7vf 6 жыл бұрын
I started learning a similar way but holding the arrows in between my middle and index finger and using a slavic release. I'm not great but it works well.
@DerekBartlettBeorn
@DerekBartlettBeorn 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. I wanna see if THIS method works just as well, if not better, but I can't quite get/see the grip properly; how he's holding each arrow against the right side, that sorta thing.
@KacsaFacsaro
@KacsaFacsaro 4 жыл бұрын
I tried this method, but 1 thing I dont understund. If I use "wooden" nocks (what is just a slot in the end of arrow body) how can I feel or how can I place the arrow on the string properly without look? For examlpe, I place the arrow to the string across with nock, it not fit on the string, so I have to tilt my arrowholder hand for match. But this is a lot of time. Who practice this method, all use wide nocks what was in the video? Or what is the trick? Wooden nocks are not the perfect for this? Thanks for answer.
@trivellekoolaidrian6921
@trivellekoolaidrian6921 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much sir! Incredibly kind & considerate of you to share your skill with us! Do you by chance discuss archery over the phone? I recently purchased the "Arab Archery" book that Lars Andersen said was a necessity. I certainly need a guide to provide me a solid foundation. Thank you again!
@user-tu7nv9ue1j
@user-tu7nv9ue1j 3 жыл бұрын
Also very nice, tks for the share
@jarlnils435
@jarlnils435 3 жыл бұрын
You can hold the bow like you do and shoot with the arrow on the other side. Your index finger hold them in place.
@ambidextrousarchery
@ambidextrousarchery Жыл бұрын
What a perfect video to watch after your most recent collaboration with Lars😊 I‘m enjoying watching each video in your KZfaq journey. Be well.🙏🫵🏹
@viqarazkiansyah3751
@viqarazkiansyah3751 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@pbknagaraj5375
@pbknagaraj5375 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much sir
@linkguy30
@linkguy30 5 жыл бұрын
This video is underrated
@LandofAryans
@LandofAryans 10 ай бұрын
hello armin do u sell this plastic bow? it is very good for begginers i want buy it for our gym
@bogenreiter4961
@bogenreiter4961 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for that tips 😊
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
thank you for watching :)
@johnlaccohee-joslin2113
@johnlaccohee-joslin2113 6 жыл бұрын
There is something that i have seen hundreds of times, on many videos, and that is drawing a bow to show what is done. BUT the most important thing is, they let the bow down correctly but never tell for those who have not used a bow, why you just dont let go of a string unless there is an arrow in the bow. The reason is very VERY important more so these days with seperate limbs. If you did do this with a long bow, chances are you would nesr blow your bow hand off or at least be full of splinters because it will explode!! The reason being, all the energy of the bow is centred on were the arrow is i.e. near the centre of the bow, just where you have holdbof it. The decompression would be so fast that it has no where to go other than at this point or at the very tips of the limbs, but more usually at the grip. You always let a drawn bow down again very slowly to it brace hight. With the use of mag alloy for risers(the handle of the bow) , and most modern bows are made of this, it really does explode and can actually catch fire. So for all who fancy a go at archery please remember, NEVER LET A BOW STRING GO WITHOUT AN ARROW IN THE BOW, LET IT DOWN FROM THE DRAW SLOWLY!!!
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
however you like or need to do it is fine for me. this kind of shooting is surely nothing for a mag alloy riser bow. keep your slow draw with it :) but there are many other bows outside, which can be dry fired without problems (even if I don't do that, but in a combat situation this always can happen - which you with a mag alloy riser will not train for)
@pyrbannikoz2847
@pyrbannikoz2847 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. But how do you not get flash burn on the left hand/forefinger after a while from the vanes of so many arrows whooshing over and through it?
@ramenxz218
@ramenxz218 2 жыл бұрын
great.. now i can be like robin hood
@1stadams264
@1stadams264 Жыл бұрын
Intetessante Technik 😁👍 Welche Pfeile kannst du empfehlen?
@meee9152
@meee9152 3 жыл бұрын
Bit late but thx for making this video it really helps a lot
@MrSajid80
@MrSajid80 3 жыл бұрын
Sir!!! You are amazing....
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, so are you
@praiseyahwehandyeshua6543
@praiseyahwehandyeshua6543 3 жыл бұрын
really cool bow
@raymartinez5389
@raymartinez5389 5 жыл бұрын
6 arrows in 10 seconds is amazing. Im aure if ubpraciced this daily u could get 7 or 8 pretty regularly
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 5 жыл бұрын
Sure
@Ratt611
@Ratt611 5 жыл бұрын
It is hard to even hold that many arrows in my hand lol. This is going to take some time.🤔
@josephtuttle1470
@josephtuttle1470 4 жыл бұрын
Put them between other fingers...allows you to load up even more :)
@ninjagenjin9510
@ninjagenjin9510 5 жыл бұрын
Sick I love it awesome video 😎
@AdamCeladin
@AdamCeladin 7 жыл бұрын
Bow No-Reload ? :P
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 7 жыл бұрын
hahaha kind of :)
@vlogfriendsutopia
@vlogfriendsutopia 4 жыл бұрын
Question for the crowd; I shoot a horse bow, and regardless of what side I shoot from, the arrow's feathers tend to cut my hands and make them bleed. Any advice?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 4 жыл бұрын
Nock the arrow a bit higher
@vlogfriendsutopia
@vlogfriendsutopia 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArminHirmer Thank you.
@robsarchery9679
@robsarchery9679 4 жыл бұрын
Very good
@AnangSyaifuddin
@AnangSyaifuddin 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@kaviascout
@kaviascout 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video! I would ask to see well your bow, because looks with a good shape to shoot booth side. Thank you in advance.
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 4 жыл бұрын
Snake by arc Rolan a plastic bow, cheap
@kaviascout
@kaviascout 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArminHirmer Thank you again! ;)
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaviascout yes of course in 26#
@kaviascout
@kaviascout 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArminHirmer may i ask even a suggestion to the correct spine (rigidity I mean) of the arrow for this bow? Thank you
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaviascout we use carbon 600 spine but 800 will work too
@willhennigan25
@willhennigan25 3 жыл бұрын
When you shoot multiple arrows, are you releasing from the arrow or the string?
@ChrisRedfield--
@ChrisRedfield-- 6 жыл бұрын
whats the draw weight?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
only 22#, as I still recover from a broken shoulder :)
@pfshooter
@pfshooter 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video.
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
thank you
@feir1046
@feir1046 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna try this always wanted to fire faster
@deanhartigan8532
@deanhartigan8532 Жыл бұрын
Can you hold the bow in your right hand and shoot with the left
@user-iw7ki9gj6g
@user-iw7ki9gj6g 2 жыл бұрын
Now: how do you do that and maintaining your grip aroung the arrow in the drawhand while taking out maximum drawlength? For me: holding another arrow in the drawhand fucks it all up by either the extra arrow touching the one being fired away or the extra arrow makes it impossible to keep the same aim while fully drawn up.
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 2 жыл бұрын
I guess practice, I am not good in this either :)
@joaoamerico2475
@joaoamerico2475 6 жыл бұрын
Muito bom !!!
@raphaelbeinhauer9242
@raphaelbeinhauer9242 6 жыл бұрын
I would expect the feathers to wear out very quickly with this method since the string goes right by it against their natural direction.
@TheMadsenmads
@TheMadsenmads 5 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@nevertoomuchhorror955
@nevertoomuchhorror955 5 жыл бұрын
Good vid
@survivaltrainingnachmartin1325
@survivaltrainingnachmartin1325 6 жыл бұрын
'Zack' :) Danke tolles Video!
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
Danke :D
@al-eteos-imhotepheru-bey3271
@al-eteos-imhotepheru-bey3271 Жыл бұрын
What kind of bow are you using in this video? I notice it has a dual shelf.
@mamansuherman3282
@mamansuherman3282 6 жыл бұрын
Good, Thanks you
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
thank you :)
@DerekBartlettBeorn
@DerekBartlettBeorn 4 жыл бұрын
Your fingers look like they're curled a bit downward, knuckles raised a bit, when you use the right side of the bow. Is that how you hold the arrow/s against the limb?
@MrHaterplease
@MrHaterplease 22 күн бұрын
3:16 I see now why your fletching is so shredded on your arrows. the string, of course!
@MikoArcher
@MikoArcher 7 жыл бұрын
Snaaaake!
@weaponizedconfusion
@weaponizedconfusion 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't catch what kind of nocks you use. What are they?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 4 жыл бұрын
I think the koc nocks from turkey
@gastonserrini738
@gastonserrini738 6 жыл бұрын
lars andersseeeeeeeen
@dastain4600
@dastain4600 6 жыл бұрын
Even looking much younger , you can do what you want , Khaleesie wil never want you ! (good tuto , bravo btw ;) )
@alessandrorusso571
@alessandrorusso571 6 жыл бұрын
He kinda looks like Jorah HAHA
@alexanderkartashov8776
@alexanderkartashov8776 5 жыл бұрын
this is interesting
@Diabolo1324
@Diabolo1324 5 жыл бұрын
That's an amazing video! Thanks to show us so many details! What kind of bow do you use? Whats the exact name of?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 5 жыл бұрын
Snake Recurve by ArcRolan
@frankyspeaking6056
@frankyspeaking6056 4 жыл бұрын
@armin how many pound the bow is? i means what is its power
@Diabolo1324
@Diabolo1324 4 жыл бұрын
26 pounds
@shawnconnery8307
@shawnconnery8307 4 жыл бұрын
Good lesson, bad volume--up please.
@ghoztfaze093
@ghoztfaze093 4 жыл бұрын
may i ask, wat is inside dat target bag? looking for ideas for diy target butt
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 4 жыл бұрын
old plastic nets from construction sites
@Papaboi226
@Papaboi226 5 жыл бұрын
where can I buy your bow?
@johnfredrickson7215
@johnfredrickson7215 5 жыл бұрын
Laksamana Riadi Amazon. You’ll find it listed as Arc Rolan Snake Recurve, or PSE Snake, or SAS Snake.
@adenana1
@adenana1 4 жыл бұрын
Oke okeee
@theoeric2907
@theoeric2907 4 жыл бұрын
Wat bow do u use
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 4 жыл бұрын
Snake recurve by arc Rolan
@Christian_Thomas_Prey
@Christian_Thomas_Prey 6 жыл бұрын
Like your Vid. Which Bow do you use?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
thank you. a simple snake recurve from arc rolan, our every day trainer
@jacklee4167
@jacklee4167 6 жыл бұрын
where can you buy those special V nocks?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
here: coyotl.com/product/fang-arrow-nocks/
@jacklee4167
@jacklee4167 6 жыл бұрын
thanks
@bogenreiter4961
@bogenreiter4961 6 жыл бұрын
Oh very nice :D I searched for them for a long time. V nocks are very important for mounted archery
@daniellisy7161
@daniellisy7161 4 жыл бұрын
Still very good, I tried, but I definitely need better nocks, what are those you use?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 4 жыл бұрын
I think these were standard nocks. I would use now KOÇ nocks
@averageguy1261
@averageguy1261 4 жыл бұрын
wow.
@path_mainmaby1284
@path_mainmaby1284 3 жыл бұрын
Lil Uzi in the background
@dawudsalamsaye9057
@dawudsalamsaye9057 5 жыл бұрын
what type of your bow?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 5 жыл бұрын
snake recurve by arc rolan
@drewbieroks6119
@drewbieroks6119 Ай бұрын
at approx 1:55 he mentions the nock type. Can anyone make out what he calls them? "fan nock"????
@Raxus_Sabers
@Raxus_Sabers 5 жыл бұрын
What bow are you using in this video? I like the looks of it
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 5 жыл бұрын
Snake by arc rolan
@szeredaiakos
@szeredaiakos 6 жыл бұрын
on the right side you have a much cleaner release. just watch yr video
@radijspaleis8290
@radijspaleis8290 7 жыл бұрын
How Much lbs is your bow?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 7 жыл бұрын
this one is only 22#, I still have to go slow after a broken shoulder :)
@radijspaleis8290
@radijspaleis8290 7 жыл бұрын
O ok i have 22 to is Like the draw weight Can you make a video about How to begin because Im a beginner
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 7 жыл бұрын
i think there are many "beginner" videos out there. the shown way of fast shooting is maybe more for an advanced archer
@js1089ss
@js1089ss 5 жыл бұрын
Does it matter too much on the fletching facing? I was told one fletch out, is this true or does it not make a difference?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 5 жыл бұрын
For me no difference on a traditional bow with real feathers
@js1089ss
@js1089ss 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArminHirmer I have just got my wife and me our first wood takedown recurve and came across needing to use the gloves. How would you recommend using the gloves to find the arrow nock? Of course the character hawkeye from the avengers makes it look too easy, however I found him using his thumb and pointer release and 3 finger release on separate occasions. Which would be best for me for wanting more speed but using the 3 finger gloves?
@user-kc5xe8my7t
@user-kc5xe8my7t 6 жыл бұрын
Looks good, can you do it with thumb draw?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
in this version of fast shooting you need your thumb to hold the arrows in place, so you can use them for drawing the string
@Balaclavaballistics
@Balaclavaballistics 4 жыл бұрын
What bow is that?
@krommuss124
@krommuss124 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the bow ? Name?
@muhammadihsanalmanthani5786
@muhammadihsanalmanthani5786 6 жыл бұрын
what kind of the bow which you use?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
snake recurve by arc rolan france
@chrisdsx5
@chrisdsx5 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of bow is that? I would like one with right and left windows like that.
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
Snake Recurve from Arc Rolan France
@jrsantos6405
@jrsantos6405 6 жыл бұрын
It's pse snake recurve bow
@gizmonomono
@gizmonomono 5 жыл бұрын
Why cant the bow to the left? Why not use the slavic release?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 5 жыл бұрын
I just show how Lars started years ago
@gizmonomono
@gizmonomono 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArminHirmer Oh, I see. Missed that. I was just doing this minutes ago. It's so much fun 😁
@AlfaRevoluzione
@AlfaRevoluzione 7 жыл бұрын
Ratatata - like a Machinegun
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 7 жыл бұрын
:D
@brunovega8579
@brunovega8579 4 жыл бұрын
👍🇦🇷🎯
@alexz7111
@alexz7111 6 жыл бұрын
How many pounds is this bow and how many pounds you use when you doing experiments or trains like this ?
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
22# our all day bread and butter bow. Snake Recurve
@alexz7111
@alexz7111 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you mate you are making very good lesson videos.
@user-nr4mo1ve8e
@user-nr4mo1ve8e 2 жыл бұрын
Камеру надо поставить с другой стороны
@NOONE-uk6qs
@NOONE-uk6qs 5 жыл бұрын
nice tuturial , but you are using a slow technic in shooting, normaly archers put the arrows on the right handle of the bow, so they can draw faster !!!
@gyulabueki9412
@gyulabueki9412 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. This is the "Kassai" methode. His record 14 arrows in 17 second from horsback to moving target.
@yukonline
@yukonline 3 жыл бұрын
4:02
@JPDW3072
@JPDW3072 6 жыл бұрын
What kind bow is it ? Thanks..
@ArminHirmer
@ArminHirmer 6 жыл бұрын
snake recurve from arc rolan
@JPDW3072
@JPDW3072 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much.
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