Literally me when T spinning

Hahahaha

me when trying guideline again in years after being too used to TGM:

this is the same for me i know t spins have fast speed and everything but only use one way rotations

Same

i do this with s/z spins lol

30% finesse gaming but damn this video is helpful

4 months later I got a sub 40 sprint with 0 faults in Jstris.

thats great to hear :)

Yeah there's SOOOO many good players it's confusing, and there's not a single top player explaining strats, you literally have to analyze top players to figure stuff

Same for me,but eventually even my 'slow' 40L times became 10-15 seconds faster than my personal best was before i practised finesse

Been a melee player for years and just got into tetris. I loved how he mentioned that and I was like oh shit there must be something to that!! tetris and melee are the only two games i have ever been compelled to grind.

Ive wondered the same thing. I love Melee and Tetris equally. The games give me a way to express my creativity and competitiveness. There's a lot of appeal to me.

@@bigbunter there's definitely something about them that creates a similar appeal, the quick thinking and speed are just so good

I enjoy Melee, Tekken, Tetris, Chess, and many other games for the reasons stated here. Some games just allow you to express some artistry and personal expression at high levels of play. A lot of games become "solved" in a way that restricts play, but this other kind of game opens up and forces creative solutions to a unique paradigm of problems. I'm sure there's a reason why things "feel like melee" and why our type of people are attracted to them.

im one of them

@@chaotickreg7024 i like chess too, could you explain the chess comparison? The strategy and creative solution thing I get, but the physical mechanics I don't. It's only very fast-paced if it's blitz or online bullet, right?

Thanks for bringing this up! I think DAS optimization is pretty interesting, but I didn't include it because it was a little beyond the scope of this video. It's arguably not super important in unlimited tuning games. I go over it a teensy bit in my 6-3 video. What you call a "super das preservation" is a technique called pipelining. More on all of the different das optimization techniques can be found on the harddrop page: harddrop.com/wiki/DAS_Optimization But, you've correctly identified that the two main ones are just regular das pres and pipelining. The other ones are a bit more niche. What can be really cool is that sometimes in tuning limit games it's better to forgo two step finesse so you can get a good pipeline (because das optimization in those games is really about skipping the das window rather than saving keypresses). If you want to see more really really technical das optimization, I definitely recommend watching some high level puyo puyo tetris sprints.

I didn't understand the second one

then recommend it to your friends who are just starting out 👉😎👉

@@orztetris I most definitely will, this is a great video

@@orztetris #self promo

i nearly have a 36 and i still havent rly learned it ...

i edited the whole thing in after effects (a bad workflow, don’t really recommend lol) but nowadays I use resolve

@@orztetris bruh what monster edits in after effects

I chug 3pps with about 100 finesse as well

@@nemilu lol

u can still use das movement in classics like NES ,but the das movement itself becomes a barrier at higher level speeds which is why hyper tapping and rolling was made

that's basically the entire rest of the game 😔🤘 (assuming you're a beginner just trying to stack for tetrises here) but the basic idea is to place your pieces in a way that accommodates your upcoming pieces. Especially if you can't look at your previews that well, this basically means you should stack so you're ready for anything: avoid (or fix ASAP) "dependencies" which are patterns on the stack that can only be filled by certain pieces, and avoid creating large differences differences of height between parts of your stack. I wrote up some diagrams and stuff here if you want them: uc-coaching.herokuapp.com/response#stacking. The best exercise I've come up with to practice this fundamental stacking is "the eternal exercise" jstris.jezevec10.com/?play=9&mode=1699 which is basically just a restricted 40L sprint where you can only clear tetris and have a limited board height. You can also just do this in marathon / tetris.com if it's too hard. Really focus on avoiding those bad patterns above and fixing them ASAP with the appropriate pieces if you are forced to make them. This exercise will always be useful until you can do it really easily at basically your sprint speed. I have some ideas for fleshing this out more and making an even more robust form of the exercise, but I'll make a video if I ever do so sub sc riii be ha ha ha ha ha

@@orztetris awesome thanks! I'm "okay" at Tetris but I think not knowing how to stack efficiently is my biggest area for improvement. A video would be great!

It remembers what keys did you press and compares it to optimal patterns of dropping blocks at position you've wanted

it gets better to some degree. but to get perfect finesse gotta force urself to learn it

Some placements are extremely counter-intuitive. Learning them is kinda mandatory, or you'll go by intuition and make errors.

yeah, just something to get used to generally most of finesse is very easy to pick up if you’ve been playing for a while it’s just szi that are usually annoying

@@orztetris S always kills me especially when it comes to "making the piece climb up from a stairs like formation" due to the piece not moving when I press ccw when I am supposed to press cw to make it kick up 😭

you need some amount of hours of gameplay (I think 10) and then enable usermodes in settings

Handling is all preference, especially DAS. ARR should be low, but don't feel pressured to put DAS as the same as top players. I will say that it becomes easier to play with lower DAS and most players slowly adjust it down as they get faster. Just set it to something comfortable. (I'm pretty sure Riviclia plays with like over 100ms DAS and he's like sub 17 lmao)

I got to a 50 second time by only rotating in one direction and rotating with my right hand and dropping with my left. Transitioning to rotating in both directions with my left hand and dropping with my right was one of the hardest things I've ever done in my life lol. I'm at a record of 46 now and just discovered finesse.

@@Tab-uj4mm wait till you learn 180 degree rotates ;) (jstris)

you can just turn down the volume, yknow..

That's what learning a new skill will do to your game. But think of it like this. Without finesse, you would be stuck in A+, making it very hard to improve. With finesse, you initially will see a decline in your gameplay, but that's just because you're not used to it. Learning finesse opens the ceiling to more and more improvement. When I learned finesse, I had an around 50 second sprint time. Now, I'm at 37 seconds, and I can say, for sure, that learning finesse carried me there.

yeah, speed gets much worse, but over time you'll get much faster than before :]. it'll become muscle memory slowly, not in 2 days and a few hours. and soon *_zoom_*

@@avistang9342 nah without finesse I got all the way to S- and 100k in blitz and now I’m suffering

it is

but it can be a very long term investment

eventually, 0 in sprint. kind of bleh in vs because sd but just as low as possible. As you're learning, just try and set personal goals.

I am getting better tho!