how to PID tune your drone

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6 жыл бұрын

This is my current process for tuning. There are lots of different methods out there so find what works best for you but I hope there are some tips in here that help :)
Stingy's video on PID tuning: • Tuning With Stingy & M...
My video on Betaflight OSD: • the EASY way to PID TU...
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@Sean-fs1sg 6 жыл бұрын

Watched so many PID tuning videos, but this one made sense in such a way that I now have a repeatable approach to tuning rather than randomly screwing with numbers..... thanks for the vid!

@kaasovic 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Drib, helpful and informative to see your process and learn the technical components

@2bolts304 6 жыл бұрын

A really comprehensive video thank you drew probably the best one I've seen yet

@JoeStanFPV 6 жыл бұрын

Good info drew. You're theory on the yaw for a 6" def makes sense. Just put a new fc in my 6" so I'll keep that in mind when i tune, thanks!

@fibo12358 6 жыл бұрын

helps me understand the minutia of analyzing the best values, thanks and nice vid!

@awalfpv9440 6 жыл бұрын

So you finally finished the vid! Well done sir!

@Avilaalex91 6 жыл бұрын

Great video we need more of this!!

@ugpfpv361 6 жыл бұрын

One of your best videos to date!!!

@onemantwohands5224 6 жыл бұрын

Lol "the flowzone" I had that today :-) :-) great explanation and no need for serious editing mate, this was one of the best I've seen so far. I connected to this vlog :-) :-) cheers

@flymoon24 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Le Drib, another helpful and enjoyable video.

@nemoishouse 6 жыл бұрын

Always good info Drew 👌

@662SSIPPI Жыл бұрын

i have found that all the flying styles on the interwebs i like your style flying the best. i been flying a year with a tinywoop and just built my first 5" and started freestyle flying about a month ago. my flying is the flow style it seems..or i like it the best. looking foward to more content..if you even read these comments .im just a poor broke bastard from the mississippi delta...peace out

@adammorin2744 6 жыл бұрын

Love the video and channel! It would be awesome to have a troubleshooting guide. Something like a lookup table where it says the issue and what PIDs to adjust. Then maybe some simple manuvers that help you illuminate those specific pid terms. You mention in the video that you usually drop P if you see jello in HD footage. This would translate to, ISSUE: Jello in HD cam; FIX: Typically lower P. Just a thought that maybe the brains at RR could put together...

@heimdall4148 6 жыл бұрын

Good video man and the thumbnail is awesome!

@Politicallyhomeless957 6 жыл бұрын

PID's at the end are personal pref. Nice vid

@policeswat64 6 жыл бұрын

Great video brother, Thanks

@deeeeeds 6 жыл бұрын

Right around 4:22 you're like, "Did you see a little propwash?" but we totally can't because you didn't cut to the footage. 😉

@modzfpv555 6 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah I actually said no coz u didn't show us lol

@badmintonavecpierremeunier7443 6 жыл бұрын

great video , Thank you Drew !!

@cartertomasko8686 6 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS!!!!

@RedDestroyer4 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video definitely will help

@JPTulo 2 жыл бұрын

I know this is old, but it’s still really helpful! Another addition to my archive 🙌

@theibault 6 жыл бұрын

The girls at the airport cracked me up. Nice video. I agree that modern FCs make it so much easier.

@sgtsimplycrispy7749 6 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU! Bout to do a 3inch build, will be using this all the way. Also, new truck?

@dominickeen6091 6 жыл бұрын

Love your videos and tutorials! Would love to fly with you some day! I have a 5 inch cerberus and having bad oscillations 50-60% throttle and up. It's smooth on lower half of throttle. Running stock pids. Seems to be more apparent with higher pitched props as I'm curently using gatebreakers.

@boo-d-crax7575 5 жыл бұрын

Could you maybe do a video about all the different components to a quadcopter and where to find them for someone like me who doesn’t know much about building a mini drone for FPV but I’m super excited about getting into it

@skyrantfpv7245 6 жыл бұрын

safe travels!

@Juicy-J-FPV 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the helpful info...

@Cinebon 6 жыл бұрын

Iv been waiting so long

@fpvriicsii2045 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Drib! I will tell you about Hungary. I've tried your PIDs and have to say terribly good :) It is true that my assembly has nothing to do with your stuff (Fc, regulator, motors) but terribly good. It's as if my machine is pulled on a rope :) A real fan: Richard

@stu22uk 6 жыл бұрын

Drew, been watching your helpful content for about as long as I've been into FPV... Something slightly off topic - I see you do your own 3d printing, worthwhile for protective parts and mounts that I'm trying to get into. What printer did you go with and did you have to mod it any to print with TPU?

@policeswat64 6 жыл бұрын

Check out Pismo beach or San Diego while your out here. Alot of good flying spots

@dr.fpvmadness2513 6 жыл бұрын

I agree, stock PIDS are so good today, starting your tune from the stock PIDS makes it easier and faster than lowering I & D at start. My thoughts and curiosity makes me wonder that with the stock PIDS being so good now days, wouldn't turning off the notch filters give a pilot the same locked in feeling, rather than going thru a whole tune session? I ask this because I have gotten so used to flying around the quirks, that I haven't even tried removing my notch filters yet. Mahalo for your input, "Blue skies and french-fries to you." Aloha!

@AllenBrooks 6 жыл бұрын

Dr. FPV Madness always start from default plain an simple

@pemtax557 6 жыл бұрын

Very helpful video ... what part of CA are you going to? Have a great trip and enjoy our state!!

@JeremiahJames 6 жыл бұрын

I really wish betaflight and the others had walk through option which basically just asks you key details of your quad, and in turn it enters the best settings for what you have. Size of quad, size/kv of motors, size and pitch of props, type of FC (it should already know this), size of lipos, total weight, how aggressive you fly? etc, etc.. Seems like it could generate much better, if not ideal stock PIDs by doing this.

@whoopwhoopification 6 жыл бұрын

6 inch ftw!❤

@worldends2 6 жыл бұрын

Perfectionist I like it!

@propabilityfpv303 6 жыл бұрын

Hey bro ive been lovin your motors, i replaced a bell on a motor with a regular hypetrain bell and it works great, but the only thing is i was just hovering regularly and a motor acted up and burnt out, turns out the coating on one of the coils shorted out, its all good tho cuz ima use a diferent motor and it was about time to upgrade my esc's to 30A. Apperently i just got unlucky because its a rare thing that they have heard of.

@MrLanun8x 6 жыл бұрын

I saw the bf newes on 323 but havent try it yet.. cause i still using the 322.. kinda suit.. i would like to copy your tune but not sure it suit with my 5" ..but will try it.. thanks for the video👍

@johnburnap 4 жыл бұрын

I love you, man.

@dofdaupheus4506 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video

@BirdlessFlight 6 жыл бұрын

I always fly with music and I actually like pumping the throttle on the beat or vocals, especially right before going into an actual move :)

@DarrellDrinkwine 6 жыл бұрын

I see you had the same twitches, and movements that I have been struggling with. Quad feels great, but my HD is horrible. I'm going to chalk it up as cold temperatures, and electronics not coping well with that. Time to get a whoop and stay inside until the temps stay above freezing. Good show as always, Drew!

@LeDribFPV 6 жыл бұрын

Yup cold makes things act weird and also wind :/

@gerrie5014787 6 жыл бұрын

Again you post content targeted at helping the community. Keep it up you are appreciated.

@HighTideFPV 6 жыл бұрын

I love my six inch. I've had issues with tuning it. This shows I'm not the only one struggling with it lol. Are you going to do some long range flights now?

@youeladamas7840 6 жыл бұрын

nicely said the firmware has made it so much better then just last year anyone can just fly. i say donate to your firmware devs they have done magic and keep adding more. do a vid on that ppl think now its only hardware i say software is keeping the balance and opening the windows in to doorways

@exp0w_fpv 6 жыл бұрын

Nice quality :)

@michaelpetale6872 6 жыл бұрын

Very helpful !:)

@AllenBrooks 6 жыл бұрын

Good stuff Drew, pids are personal preference generally, just start from stock pids...

@foundcause898 6 жыл бұрын

No idea how you tune through fpv, audio/visual cues help so much

@1337flite 6 жыл бұрын

I had problem tuning out oscillations from a 6" which had been OK before. When I got home I found that 3 of the 4 nuts holding on the FC were missing. You know FC flapping in the wind will do that lol.

@DangerDavefpv 6 жыл бұрын

great pid tuning,thank u this is still my weakness aside from shit for flying lol.. keep it coming brother

@policeswat64 6 жыл бұрын

Was it hard setting up those pid changes thru your radio and Goggles ?

@donaldtrump5489 6 жыл бұрын

Just run default pids on KISS. Everything else is riding the coattails of KISS innovation. They pioneered Dshot and dynamic filtering.

@madyet5235 5 жыл бұрын

can you do this vid again with the new version of bf!? that would be awesome!

@itsjustchill93 6 жыл бұрын

I've been getting terrible propwash and jello in my HD cam recently. It's on a wide X frame, not sure if that might be causing problems? Otherwise just down my P gains and up D gains?

@PK-zf9wm 6 жыл бұрын

What 6inch props you using? Great video too man

@jakesouthard9175 4 жыл бұрын

when i punch the throttle, and then take it to 0, the nose drops fairly drastically. what do I adjust , the i Pitch?

@zacharybrasseaux4264 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry old video might not get an answer but what 6 in frame were you rocking

@JoeMaxFpv 6 жыл бұрын

QUESTION::: so if I'm doing a backwards drift and throttle out forward and experience bad sit down prop wash what axis or gain should I work on? So if falling backwards straight and I hit throttle and it prop washes what term should I begin with???

@Its_Mee_Bee 6 жыл бұрын

If you haven’t figured it out yet, you’re going to love the low rpm thrust you get on a 6in quad. I find I’m able to wait longer to pull out of a dive, and do it without having to go WOT. Now if only there were as many prop options as there are for 5in!

@caseydimmitt2449 5 жыл бұрын

gemfan flash 6042 x3 its all you need! avan long range for longer flights with only slightly less control.

@RCOverKill 5 жыл бұрын

I think this will help a lot. Do you have any tips for an 8 month FPV pilot, I think one problem with goggles, my fatsharks ipd is 59 to 69, I think I need 58ipd. Anyway I was more about flying tips. Anything is much appreciated.

@brokenanklesfpv8552 6 жыл бұрын

What flight times are you getting from them higher kv motors for a 6” ?

@dronereviewman9580 6 жыл бұрын

Im not shure i know what im doing when it comes to tuning pids!?? So thanks for sharing im shure ill need this info when i do get a drone!!! If i ever get a good 1👍👍 o you are going to California wtf i have always wanted to go there just cost way to much for me!!! Hope u have a safe trip thanks for posting!!

@hateeternalmaver 6 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah and Betaflight OSD is just AWESOME! =)

@coryvenezia5530 6 жыл бұрын

how do u change your pids through ur googles. I have the aomway commanders and can I do that?

@havoc_64 6 жыл бұрын

So this 6 inch drone, what frame is it? Motors? Do you have a build list?

@deishaw9567 4 жыл бұрын

BF 4.0 suggested to drop all the PID down by a third, is this still the case on 4.1?

@TheMadmacs 6 жыл бұрын

i wish there was a way betaflight could take a look at blackbox and suggest possibilities for noobs. i dont even know if i should switch on dynamic filter while i still have the notch filters on and biquad. or is dynamic filter just a good safety net for noobs who switch off notches and then bend a prop?

@LeDribFPV 6 жыл бұрын

Turn on dynamic filter, switch to PT1 and turn off all notch filters. Check the motors for excessive heat as you tune :)

@KittFPV 6 жыл бұрын

ahh, the good ol' autotune days. We'll see some interesting things in the near future I'm sure ;) ...in the meantime listen to dribbie, he's on point

@TeenoFPV 6 жыл бұрын

California here! 👌 got to see you drib! i hope haha 😂

@hateeternalmaver 6 жыл бұрын

Oh my god, Drib, this title so what I had in mind for a while to ask you. As it gets colder I feel the space to fly gets smaller and smaller, so I REALLY wanted to ask you the following for a while: How do you tune for tight spaces, when you just don't have these long lines to ride along.....? I know that's not something an American is really gonna be used to, you know, because you guys have so much space, but of course you're gonna fly spots with little space to maneuver too, so, how do you adjust your tune for that? Cause I feel like when I switched from F1 to F4 it's now way more heavy and 'spacey', you know.... Guess I should start with D setpoint weight but maybe you have a certain way to go about adjusting for "tightness".? Love your Vids Drew, best wishes for you and your loved ones.

@Unsub223 6 жыл бұрын

What if the default pids are not letting you fly. Basically I wobble so hard by the time I get a few inches off the ground I flip ? I know it’s the pids I’ve checked everything else ?

@FPVish 6 жыл бұрын

So do you set your rates first, or pids first ?

@scooterfpv8864 6 жыл бұрын

Intently listens . . . . think I see it now the things . Much thanks .

@MrJoseJasso 6 жыл бұрын

Drew, does your frame have 6 inch arms? Or what 6in frame are you using?

@mrnobody9821 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video, I’m a noob and I need this stuff broken down until I memorise it all

@soflyfpv 5 жыл бұрын

anti gravity gain is usually in Miscellaneous in the on screen display

@ianlu9962 4 жыл бұрын

does every drone use the same tune? or does it vary

@creaturefpv 3 жыл бұрын

Mine is dli.g something very strange. It's kinda like prop wash but it's definitely my motors skipping or studderimg like they stop while in the middle of a role and hold for a millisecond and start and stop until it finishes its role . I have messed something up bad and I csnt figure out what it is. I was watching one of your videos on rates and was wanting to just straight up copy them and I didn't know that some of the settings were not what you were showing off and I think that they were just way off . Like your rates were right but like feed forward and stuff so I copied it all from what you showed on screen and I didn't Wright down the stock pids so now idk what or where to start at to fix it. Tidwell tried to help me some the other day but I think it just made it worse because not I'm having a bad prop wash problem on top of the shaky jerks . Swarm touched on it for a sec on one of his videos but not enough to help me out. Please help if you know what I'm talking about . Thx man and keep up the good work. And put out some trick tutorials too on putting together tricks to help with flow. Your really good at making everything so smooth . Total bad ass. Later.

@yalmadiable 4 жыл бұрын

We need your consultation in PID task for a drone we finished developing. We really want to make PID tuning to a level that acts very stable its high end UAV quadcopter I'm looking for you reply ASAP. Thanks

@feelmyola 6 жыл бұрын

Haha Star Jaycee park! I like to fly this field when I'm in the area. What enables you to change your PIDs through the osd like that?

@LeDribFPV 6 жыл бұрын

Check the description for my video about BF OSD :)

@MrPnew1 5 жыл бұрын

@5:40 Bobble. Yeah I saw that too :) No but seriously despite all the smart assed comments by some of these other guys, you Sir can fly and thanks for your video

@andreasgusti7484 2 жыл бұрын

how about aetting rate profile?

@csskongen 6 жыл бұрын

what filters???????

@jackhuncho9826 6 жыл бұрын

can we have a gopro and a dvr view of your flowy flying style??!!

@charliedoubl 6 жыл бұрын

hey everyone. I've been trying to figure this out but i can't seem to. I just built my whoop and I'm loving it, but whenever i move the throttle or even pitch forward, the whoop always yaws to the right. is anyone else having this problem? do you have any suggestions on how to fix it? any help is appreciated, thank you:)

@KittFPV 6 жыл бұрын

loved that uggghhhh wipe transition :P I terribly need to buckle down and just try tuning already. Stock BF pids have been plenty great, but I can definitely tell I'm missing out on the crispness. 2:52 OH THANK GOD!! okay, I'm a lot more excited about this PID tuning stuff now. **Pause break to put the lipos on the charger** ...fuck Drew, this video is PERFECT!!! Exactly what I needed!!! Even funnier when I first saw this I said "didn't Stingy already do this" which you mention, but your method is exactly what I wanted to do. Sometimes you just need a little reassurance you aren't going to do yourself more harm than good... 6:35 EXACTLY!!!!!! This is the point I get stuck on and just go fly instead. 10:03 whooosh :P hehehe 11:10 YES!!! big issue I have, you can actually tune that out!!! OMG

@WKfpv 6 жыл бұрын

Nice vid Drew. Tuning question. I have a pretty good tune on my quad but when it's windy it shakes al over the place. How do you solve this problem?

@l.l.a.2465 3 жыл бұрын

Try upping the I gain

@420xerro 6 жыл бұрын

I got super bad vibes in forward flight can't seem to get rid of them on my six inch

@williamstewart1269 6 жыл бұрын

Enjoy the sunshine in Ca, it's been grey here for weeks, turned white again last night, hope that you get the weather to rip. As to your criticism re the need for "perfect " tune...... if your technique flying was like a mosquito on crack it would be improbable but my observation on your vids is you do a fine job with either the tune or a masterful job with the editing. Say "hi" at the west coast for me, and don't forget the tacos and tamales!

@tsmspace 6 жыл бұрын

I have been thinking a lot about photography racing drones, and how many photographers should switch to using them instead of exclusively photography type drones for their shots. You comment on flying differently to compensate for some stability issues instead of tuning them out,, I think that a photographer would LOVE to use vibration, throttle torque, etc. As photgraphic effects.

@BadChizzle 6 жыл бұрын

Hello, Drew... If you could do a post about getting used to flying with the goggles on... and tips for acclimating to being under the hood, so to speak... that would be very helpful. I find myself in a situation where, I’ve got all the stuff I need to start fpv flying, but each time I drop the goggles, I want to pull them up again and see where and what my quad is doing. Ha Ha Thanks!

@vinnnocc 6 жыл бұрын

i’m done with PIDs stock works. with very little adjustment. what are your rates?? your so smooth

@nullhive2668 6 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7uKmdlnqZqmgGg.html at 4:59

@jordanbass3210 6 жыл бұрын

Crazy slow around 600 Degrees a second

@corkit008 6 жыл бұрын

He has another PID tuning vid called " PID and rates" I believe and you see them, it's like driving a new car for the first time haha but very smooth

@Kylejeepadventures 6 жыл бұрын

Eighth. Thank you LeDrib for this video. Is there a way to use real life PIDs in simulators like DRL & LiftOff. What I mean use yours or Mr.Steele's PIDs in simulators. With these new PIDs on this quad would they work on a 5" Alien.

@jordanbass3210 6 жыл бұрын

Kyle Forbes stock in a Sim

@jordanbass3210 6 жыл бұрын

Kyle Forbes no pids are specific to each quad wherever they're flown elevation altitude temperature atmospheric pressure barometric pressure all of these things have an effect on your pids

@corkit008 6 жыл бұрын

Kyle Forbes you can in DRL's game but you will more then likely have higher values before you notice the same feel you're used to in reality

@djchazfpv2632 6 жыл бұрын

Excellent..thanks for taking the time! Content request for early 2018. Custom 3D printing parts for my qwad start to finish and edit/export quality HD video for KZfaq! Mine suck so bad even my family can't watch them.

@jordanbass3210 6 жыл бұрын

DJCHAZ FPV record in 4K 30 and then render it down to 1080p 60

@jimbrown4652 6 жыл бұрын

💙

@rockman49er 6 жыл бұрын

Damit you make it look so easy and quick how many batteries did it take you to tune that

@LeDribFPV 6 жыл бұрын

That whole session was made up of 4 batteries and I cut out a lot of redundant stuff

@MystikSquash Жыл бұрын

We need a refresher

@4reazon331 5 жыл бұрын

8:02 nice voice break

@BadChizzle 6 жыл бұрын

Also... flying LOS... I find the bigger the copter, the smoother it feels for me to fly. I’ve got one with 7 1/4” props that feels so sweet to fly. I Love it. One thing though... when that thing comes at you... you do get the heebie jeebies!!! Ha Ha ... ... it’s big!!!