Finally a PID video that I can watch all the way through! Many thanks Kabab, extremely helpful stuff.

Kabab you finally got me to understand the PID!

This was great! You have a nice way of explaining things simply that no one else can seem to do. Your video on adjusting rates really helped me understand how all these things work together. Keep it up!

Wow I find this more easier to understand than other videos, thank you

Thanks, for catering to us normal people, Kabab! Excellent, excellent video

damm, that is what i was looking for! i watched like 50 PID videos since my quad fly like a lawnmower out of the box, but none of them were helpful at all .. lots of info, but hey.. i just need to get it on .. after watching yours, went out .. 4 packs later, it fly like a charm !! thanks a lot !

I haven't finished the video but I just wanted to say I really like these videos along with the quad theories. You have helped me incredibly since my start in fpv. I still haven't built my first quad (I'm working on it but I want to make sure everything's ok before I fire up and plug in). Btw I'm that kid you helped last year. Thanks so much.

Best video about PID I have ever seen. Thumps up dude !!! greetz from germany ;-D

thanks for this! just put up my first tuning review, and you've reinforced a few things I've been learning. I really appreciate your non-scientific/feel-based explanations :)

Definitely the most informative tuning video I've seen!

Completely agree with your first statement, any and all PID info on the tubes is hard to understand, I have had better luck with the test and tune method over and over to get it closer.. thanks for the info man, appreciate all of it. You are my favorite source for racing drone info for real.. the way you present it is sensible to me. Keep up the good work!

Your comments on sample rates and setting them to 4khz in the first 5 min cured 90% of the problems I had. Good Vid. -G

Been struggling with Pid tuning, going to give this a go tomorrow. The way you have described it makes it so easy to comprehend. :)

As usual. Thanks for the touching on this topic, look forward to the next one.

you just got a new subscriber, yeah I've been flying couple of months, and I want to understand pid tuning, there are so many pid videos i watched and i got more idea on your video, great!!.. :)

So, I am definitely a beginner. I watched a video on how PIDs worked before this one, but your's gave great insight as to how the three work together and how they impact the quadcopter together. Thank you!

you made that sound so simple and looking at it your right i think iv been to worried to mess around with the pids untill now cheers kb

Interesting take on the topic. Been doing some straight down free falls lately and I feel like that is a great test for the I, especially now with anti gravity gain fixing the pitch problems on quick chops.

This is actually one of the better vids about pids.

I want so bad to understand how to tune PID's correctly.. Your video helped more than most others...

I never thought that loop time is so IMPORTANT.. i had weird problems with take off etc. and thought the default 500 cycles per second is enough... i set it now to 5000 cycles (200us) on my flip32 and works great. thank you so much !!!!!!!!!!!

Hey man, what you said at 7:36, to just start with a stock tune, that just got you a new subscriber. Thanks man. I got this brand new drone sitting next to me waiting to get the final heat shrink I'm stressing out about PIDs that I don't even need to worry about setting. I've only ever flown a UDI disco before, so I need to be focused on getting the thing to fly and then not smashing it right off the bat. I couldn't figure out if leaving it stock was going to make it smash (or burn, for that matter). This thing is kind of intimidating to me because I've done my share of electrical work and I know exactly how many pixies are shooting through there. Also it sounds like a frickin tornado with those props on. Cheers.

Part 2... Pleeeeaaaaase!! You do it so easy to understand. thumbs up : )

Thank you for making PID tuning so much easier to understand. +1 sub

Looking forward to your take on this subject. Good start so far. 👍🏻

So when is part ✌🏻 coming out? Its been 2 months now already.. Everyone should look at many vids as possible about pids.. everyone has their way to explain. And your way of explaining it is very easy to understand. So give us part two please : )

thank fuck for this man, i've been losing hair learning this shit. thank you

thank you!! made this video so i didnt have to. absolutely nailed it.

dude, u need to make part2 of this!

I like this video, but I personally think that PID tuning videos should be a lot shorter. I know PIDs are a huge subject, but all Im looking for when I get confused is a three minute video that says "when you go up on P, this will happen. when you go up on I... etc." I know that my friends and I are always having trouble tuning because I cant stand to watch a twenty minute video where they get to what you need at 12 minutes in. over all, your video has been the most straightforeward. thanks.

Great Video, as always, one of the very few with a very high concentration of information. One thing about cg or P gain for an X like copter: don´t forget the battery, which is often elongated along the pitch axis, so perfect equal pitch and roll I don´t expect even with an X frame...

Maybe you could test the impact of min_throttle? More min_throttle for not so punchy but high-revving props, less min_throttle for very punchy props.

This helped me a lot, thanks !

You have changed my flying life. If I have the micro brushed 1s H frame quad similar to your other videos, and I am doing a 180 turn but the front end will dip down at the corner of the 180 turn, what PIDS do I look at?

This is prolly the 12 + vid or article I've read over the past year and I think I'm starting to understand PIDS.... pray for me and amen.

Order of tune.lower everything. Start with p. Then set d. Then set I. So. P/d/i

Hey Bob I built a EVO with the 2206 2522 motors and soft mounting both fc and motors. And my motors come down pretty warm even when turning down D quite a bit. How hot do your motors get like cool? Pretty Warm to touch?

Good content. Thank you.

Stock PIDs seem to work ok usually. Every time I try to change them and tune it better I just end of making it worse :(

Hello Kabab!! Great video. I understand what you are saying with the looptimes as that makes sense to me but I have a question. I fly kiss fc with a looptime if 1000(im pretty sure) ive always wondered how can kiss work so well with such a low looptime?

Been looking for this.. to pick your brain about pids.. Everyone has their way of explaining it. I can tune.. but thats thanks to youtube. This is going to be really interesting to see : ). Many are talking about motors coming down cool.. i can get sort of a good tune but motors are always very slightly warm. I can set p and d pretty good.. its i-term i find a little hard. What is your thoughts about anti_gravity in betaflight?

Hi Kabab FPV, Great video and nice explanation! What about parts 2+? Will they be available soon? =)

how to tell the difference between prop wash oscillations caused by too much I gain vs too much P gain?

What do you think it says about my tune that when I punch it, and then when the quad comes down and I roll on throttle I get occilations?

Nice video. I would like to see a video with your opinion on Rates. I almost feel like my rate settings are becoming more critical to how I fly esp from racing to Freestyle.

hi bud can you simply use betaflight to get ya going with a stock set up? I have a wizard that tells you I'm just learning!

Subscribed! Thx for the video!

How do I know what gyro rate is upported by the FC? I've got a pretty cheap one so, could I mess it up by setting the kHz too high or what would happen? Greetings from Germany man, just got into your channel and really start loving your stuff. :)

When will Part 2 come out? Really want to see this in action, love the explanation.

Great explanation. Out of curiosity are you using the new anti_gravity settings in betaflight? I know if affects I term but would you turn that on to start at stock then tune from there or tune first then turn anti_gravity on?

Very very good insight. I will pay attention to those moves while tuning. I feel we have gotten spoiled lately with betaflight. Stock pids are good. Change P up or down as needed. Inrcease D until smooth or overheat ;)

Hey Kabab say you set your p to a point below an oscillation point but are not happy with how locked in it feels can you use the Vbat PID settings to bring that locked feel back?

@kabab, great video. I'm going to try this tomorrow. if I crash I will send you the bill.😀

Love the content! Hoping for some advice.... brand new chameleon build. Flies perfect better than any other quad I have except during take off for the first few seconds low to mid throttle the first 10-20 ft in the air it whobbles pretty good. I even went through took off all filters through dynamic filter and flies even better except that initial whobble. Any suggestions?

So pid tuning can be done with air mode on?Sorry im still learning.

Thank you! When do you plan the second part?

I can't get a good tune, my motors get hot when above 20 on the d term, I have everything softmounted, it also isn't very locked in.

For normal people :D This makes me think... Did you not understand Joshua bardwells pid series?

Yes Agree, very well explained, just one question, i have a Armattan Chameleon and using Tattu 4s 1550 Lipo but noticed a lot are using 1300, should i change to 1300. thanks for the info!!!!

I dont have OSD, so it sucks tuning my pids. Getting VERY hot motors on stock rates. Im about to just copy someones pids....

When I set my gyro update frequency to 8khz the PID loop won’t go above 2khz. I’m running a matek f405 and have had no problems with it other than this. I set both to 8 in betaflight then when I reboot the pid loop resets back to 2khz. Help? Edit: I set the gyro loop to 32khz and the PID loop went up to 8khz. It seems the PID loop can only go to a quarter of the gyro loop. Don’t know why, can someone explain?

What modes to you have activated?

Thank you 4 your help.

Betaflight 3.3 is out and tuning things changed again. At least for me firmware update between 3.3 and 3.3.1 without changing loop kHz's and PID profile settings, ended with awful vibrations and propwash. This tutorial seems should be updated :)

is it possible to tune out the bumps you get from a bit of wind?

when do you change your props I have a prop on my quad that's been there for 2 weeks its all banged up I don't know if I should throw it out or keep it.

Bro Doc Nooooo !!! Its 6 2018 your flights show you know how to tune !

fucking awesome dude,,,,i love you

My big problem is the cc3d fc I'm running with libre pilot ....well and chew up props

Will you be doing a part 2?

bro, help with my pid pls. i always feel the same when making any changes on P gain.

Tune P, then D.. then I.. works the best for me..

There was never a part 2 ?

would anybody mind sharing what stock pids on betaflight look like I've jacked mine around & would like to restart.

Really? Minimum 4K gyro and PID loop? Mr. Steele flies KISS at 1k loop time... how is his tune so right then?

could you do one tune in the feild to show us your method would be a good vid cheers

where is part 2?

RIP part 2...

Does anyone know the link for Part 2?

my motors desync at full throttle for some reason at 4k gyro and at 8k it wont take off, it just freaks out on the ground. my escs are the old xm20a which i plan to upgrade and they only do oneshot 125.

Where is part 2?

and just saw my x220s PID loop was at 2ghz gyro 4

Sorry, just found your other video:)

This is like trying to learn another language, there is no simple way to xplane it,no one has a video like we’re chid gets it. I’m a real dummy, I thought building a Pid controller box would be the hard part. Getting temp settings for is guess and keep guessing still don’t get it... I just don’t get it. Once I ever learn it then it will be like talking English

I just uploaded a video with your hyperlight frame I would love it you could check it out.

Ok ok look i understand wat every ting does but wat does the numbers mean like is it % or wat

And he never did part 2 :(

I prefer the KISS fc, everyone should read some of Felix's posts about looptimes and gyros. Mr. Steele, Johnny FPV, finalglideaus and many more top pilots exclusively use KISS flight controllers. I truly believe KISS fc is the fastest way into the air for new pilots. I've used cc3d, naze32, f3, f4 boards and after trying them all I find myself only flying my kiss quads.

I’m not normal lol!

Your rates baffle me. So linear.

Easier to understand than that guy who wears a dress .... good job!

thanks daddy kabab 💦💦