As a player that's coming back to Dota after 6 years these videos are gold. Nice man!

Great video. Would be amazing to have a series where you deep dive onto a mid hero, and share what are their matchup stats and how to play them

I am actually an immortal player that wants to switch to mid from pos 4 and this is golden advice. Thank you for the guide it includes so many useful tips for laning and matchups!

This video helped me out a ton. I only play mid and I've been going on a lose streak. I haven't done much research since this patch and this helped put some things back into perception for me

The "knowing when to farm and when to fight" sounds similar to what I'd always told myself which was "itemize to not die", but a bit nicer. Also known about the range creep giving vision to aggro for a while, but never seen anyone share it, so that's cool. Thanks for the awesome video, it was long but wish it was longer!

As a 6.5k mmr midplayer i see this video very great not only for lower mmr players but for everyone that likes midrole Learnt and fixed my thaughts on many scenarios on midlane thanks a lot.

This is great content for those looking to optimize and focus their game. Thanks and please keep it up!

I can not thank you enough for this video man! Keep up the good videos and let us know how we can support you. This is the most detailed data 2 video I have ever seen.

Found this video in recommendation and after watching it I was sure to subscribe to your channel. Keep it up bro

Great video man, love your content

subscribed man! great content thanks

Thank you, I used to play mid back in 2013 but the game has changed so much since then, I tried playing mid again a few times recently and I got absolutely destroyed in lane. I knew I needed a guide on how to play mid in 2023, and this is exactly what I was looking for. It's great that you include a mixture of general information (like how to choose a hero) and concrete tips like what starting items to buy or how to check if the enemy has a ward. I will watch this video and try to learn as much as I can.

This is so gold , you just gained +1 subscribe man!

amazing video, the effort was really worth it! :D

These video is gold Man.. Really help a lot mid player like me

Thank you for your knowledge Paindota!

Great video! Would love to see a similar one for offlane

After a 7 years break from Dota, your channel is what encouraged to actually play the game again. Amazing educational content! Thank you dear sir

New subs here. I love your content. You are on my top 5 guide on how to play dota on highest level. Love from ph. Keep it up

Thanks bro, this video covers everything!

Really grateful for this! I am a mid player myself, around 3.5k mmr. Feel like I'm a bit stuck, as I tend to throw games often. Thus, I am trying to "relearn" the mid lane, and this really helps me out!

THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST DOTA2 GUIDE I HAVE SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. THANKS

I think some people would be exited to see this kind of a video for the pos 3 as well.

I've been playing dota for 8~ years, and 6 of this years in the mid lane, I say that Im decent at it, (even tho my rank is not the best, but who knows maybe with this video I improve!?), but there were also plentiful things that I learned from this video, while some were already in my knowledge, overall that's an amazing video guide for the midlane, enjoyed and learned something every single minute, you got a new sub here sir! Good work :)

Amazing video as always thank you 🙏 big patch next week I wonder how much it will alter this guide 😁

This is really amazing thank you subsribed and liked

I appreciate the effort and subbed

this was very informative, and not just for mid laners

This video is amazing. I'm gonna save for future reference! Ty so much sir!

Hey, I´m new to Dota (League veteran just trying it out) and even though I don´t fully understand all things, it still helps a lot. Thanks!

good videa covering fundamentals. Subscribed to you for support

are you planning on making a complete video categorizing mid lane heroes? would love to see it, great video already

very good content bro keep it up

Bro this video is FIRE!!!

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Better teacher than Speed. Following you closely man thanks

YOU DESERVED MORE SUBS!

Good video, love it.

Nice guide!

Really great guide my man! I've been for the longest time stuck between Ancient 3 and Devine 2. I'd roll between these two ranks, sometimes dropping lower for a game or two, or the other way, stepping out, but being sent back quite fast... for me I was always playing mid or hard supports. Both roles are super important and what my friend likes to make fun of as "autism" I'm overanalytical so I enjoy playing the chess game of DotA... anyway, I've been lately since the 7.33 update trying out different weird picks on mid, Shadow Demon, Venomancer and Ancient Apparition are my most picked heroes. The most success I have is Veno (around 68% winrate). I play these characters because it gives me freedom in terms of how good or bad my cores are doing. If my Hard Carry is struggling, is 0/4 and needs time to farm, Right-click Veno is actually good hero. Same with AA, that build with Scepter, Pike and some attackspeed is bonkers. But if my cores are doing okay or outright dominate the game, I'll take on a role of pos4, you can get auras and other helpful items much faster. The only problem is, that people don't trust me (I mean, yeah why should they right?) it almost feels like I'm playing with League players most of the time. Nobody even tries to communicate, sees Shadow Demon mid and instantly give up, but especially SD has one of the easiest match-ups you can get. You reall don't like heroes like Storm Spirit, Qop or Viper for example, but seeing Viper mid is unlikely nowdays, It's still played don't get me wrong, but not so much. Storm spirit once he has ult It's really unpleasant game for you, especially if he has some of their supports ganking mid and Qop will do nothing at first, but she can just sit back and in the end the mid has became a WW1, where neither of you wanna start the fighting, so you just sit back, farm, once in a while one side tries something, gets pushed back but can't do anything once they are under tower. She clears your Illusions super quick with E, keeps you in check with Q, She's just pain in the ass. What I was trying to ask... I love playing these unusual picks, I know what's good for me and what's an unfavorable matchup for me and Iove playing like this... pickinf regular heroes only makes them more likely for the enemy midlaner to kniw how to play against me, but if pull up on mid with Veno? Most of the players get overconfident really quick. Is there some really weird picks, that just looks and sounds wrong? But are possible to viable? I've been juggling with the idea of Underlord or Treant on mid, still need some tuning, but I start to like these two on mid. You are essencialy unkillable like Timber or Necro, can always go the route of auras or carry and both have global pressence even if they are still on mid. Treant can heal others and towers, Underlord can snatch a rune and Portal somewhere, get a quick kill and return... I'll need to fine-tune these two more tho'

this guide was incredibly useful. I have only 20 games of dota but I win most of my lanes, the only problem is that I struggle after laning phase. Maybe a video focused on that would help other ppl as well

I started following this tutorial at 1700 MMR. Now I am 2100 and I keep going !

Wow the aggro mechanic using own range creep as vision was new to me, i kinda hate when enemy doesn't have ward in mid, because i can't control the wave as well. Never thought to use the range creep. Awesome

hey! i love your videos and have been starting to re-learn dota again after playing very infrequently for a long time. one small criticism i'd offer to keep in mind is that you sometimes make assumptions about what enemies will do that aren't very accurate in MMR brackets below 4k or so. things like enemy midlaners blocking, or enemy supports rushing to ward the river, and mid heroes always picking last, aren't really very applicable in my experience, since everyone is less skilled and most people aren't doing things the way you'd expect from higher MMR games. personally, i'd love a guide like this from the perspective of the 2-3k bracket where enemies aren't as predictable and don't follow the same 'rules' as you lay out here

Big thank you!

Really like the ideas just two things i noted while watching this video: you repeated a lot the fact which items you need as puck. Would've loved you to elaborate maybe for different heroes (I understand if you wanted to do so for simplicity's sake but me personally I would've appreciated to hear about multiple different kinds of heroes strenghts and weaknesses and how to fix/play around them. Second I would've loved some time to breath mentally because you arranged the video to be a constant flow of information.. fair enough I could pause the video for myself to get that room to breathe but I think it could be nice if you also think of that for your next longer video :) only good vibes

new paindoda vid 🍭

This video is extremely informative and really well made I cannot wait for you to upload more on the mid lane if the content continues to be this high quality then I will be a regular here I have already watched this video enough times to know the script by heart and apply it to games and I have already improved by leaps and bounds

Dk is another good hero for new mid players, I go a 2:1:2 build before 6 then max he's passive and basically am unkillable to most mid heroes. If you can manage to get a decent timing with blink and shard you can pressure side lanes and have all tier 1 towers down really fast, especially if you got good synergy and push potential with your team.

Nice guide, nice job dog

Thanks!

Perfect video

I love your videos

I came here because someone suggested this on reddit to me, well im glad that I did

Quality guide

very informative

I need to link this video to everyone, such high quality

i learn from him when it comes to greedy heroes and it really true if your hero on mid is greedy also the game is like finish under 30mins below! and result as lose easily.

Nice job bro.

best dota guide ever

I'm tired of being pos 4-5 and my core sucks. I set up kill after kill after kill and make plays you don't even see at TI yet somehow we lost. Now I'm taking matters to my own hands. Thanks for this guide, I'mma spamming meepo day and night until I get my MMR back.

Nice video

Thank you

As a new player I dont get half of what you are saying but what I can say is that this is great content

best video

This video is great, thank you! I like to ask something that happen in bad matchups: for example me ember vs huskar or SF. I will not die and get what I can but the enemy will get everything so it will be unstoppable. Then teamates blame me ofc. What can you do in those situation when enemy is super strong bc of a bad matchup. I cannot face him and neither can my teammates.

this is amazing! can you do an update for the new patch:?

Spitting GOLD

i won mid after watching half of this video, 10/10 watching the rest of it now to become the next topson (im archon)

viper + shard is a good tower destroyer, towers melt with the - armor and extra dmg

Nice vid1

im a carry player most of the time but pos 5 and 2 are my next most played roles (cant do pos 3 or 4 well for my life) if im stuck as 5 i bring out the trusty duo of either shaman or CM, and if im pos 2 it is usually necro or zeus, although i do like to meme some CM mid, maxing frostbite to dominate lane is pretty darn fun.

Hi. Is there anyway you can comment on the playstyle of clinkz as a mid hero?

I maybe wrong but SF doesn't seem like someone who needs their team to create space for him. He can solo kill, take towers , push lanes and create space by forcing enemy tps all by himself

thanks

i want to narrow down my hero pool, the only hero i am set on and play regardless of meta is pick, what other 2-4 heroes should i focus on?

My cheese picks are NS and Earth Shaker, can really make someone rage if they’re not prepared

If i remember correctly the easier way to center the image on your hero is to double click on the hero portrait itself!!

Waow I don't deserve to be immortal, I might be a mid player maybe good at last hits and some aspects, and maybe i know most of the mechanics but actually doing it in the game is the hardest part and what even harder is making them muscle memory this will take me months, thanks this shows me why I am low immortal and on what should I work hands down best guide for people who are serious about the game or love it

With this new att, invoker without healing on quas, need to take bottle?

Thanks for the guide. Any tips for last hitting under tower i miss alot of cs at mid when undertower

There is an easier way to center the camera on yourself when blocking. Use the "Hold Select Hero to follow" option, and just hold your "Select Hero" key, which is 1 for me. It doesn't require tinkering with console, and it's more convenient than double-clicking.

Is it posible for lone druid to be mid? If so, care yo gove some advice! sir!

hey bro, would you say this vid still applies after the map changes? or do you plan on making an updated video?

Can some one pls explain to me why the puck pick at 2:30 is good. I dont like playing it vs pudge silencer or viper so just wondering any help would be much much much appreciated

Teach me the basic of morphling please! I feel like i panic too much that i just die with low health

Looking to go back to dota after 6 years. Problem is, I used to only be a cheese picker meepo spammer back when 1v9 games were the norm and teamplay didnt matter in lower-mid tier mmr 😅

my rank is legend 5 98% it takes 1 more game to win to reach ancient 1 but this game made me lose 13 times in 2 days, and as a result I returned to legend 4, I watched this video and got a lot of knowledge, I often win lanes but still many animals always lose lanes in safelane and offlane.

Thoughts on Techies mid?

Top g

i wonder if my team really know this concepts im fairly new to the game and all videos mention some kinda strategy or counters how should i learn all those concepts

44:38 how puck dispell the silence? abbadon dont use the shield on him just mist coil

archon here, my hero pool is massive, so i think but mainly i win with invoker, sf, ember, void spirit huskar. But i loose often and blame my team. Coaches have informed me mechanically im up there its my mentality but clueless still sucks.

Its good video, but can you explain about midlane aggresive right click play at lane? as i see some of pro player for example topson harass his enemy mostly by right click where the situation when he right click enemy the creep not chase him. I understand about basic agro and de-agro the creep, but i not understand how this player consistenly right click hero while not being chase by the creep

I play this heros, Batrider, Pangulier, Dp, invoker, Storm, Ember, Puck, Primal Beast, Earth spirit, I really wish to be like you someday :)) Under 500 in EU

I have a question.... so i played lol before and there we can pick a role before the game even starts, how do people decide where to go? I want to try mid but there is someone in every game. Is there a mode for that? Or ranked is diferent?

this channel is a goldmine of dota content..

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These are great ways to improve your laning, you don't have to apply everything. I climbed from Archon 1 to Legend 2 by just following one advice. Have a limited hero pool. Do not play more than 5 heroes. That will automatically make you better at Dota.

I think there's also the mental part, most of the time when midlane players lose their lane they don't know what to do they tilt or whatever, yes you died 3 times move on what are you gonna do next? players play rank even when they are not in the right mental space, most of the time you have to really be focused and on synch with yourself when you play rank and mid, so yeah just be constantly thinking on what is your next move. Dota for the most part is a mental game clicking buttons and such is only a minor part of it.