a mine is a bomb

same, I played this game for over 20 years and never knew about the both mouse click together lol

Anything that goes boom is a bomb. Not that difficult to understand lol

@@GenshinLover283 you have to understand thiugh that this person is an adult so they do not have that kind of thinking

A mine is just a sensitive bomb

Me too I know understand it

Wait, so you arent supposed to hit a bomb for the first click?

You didn't read the help file?

Ah that sounded mean of me. Darn. Sorry about that. My profile pic (pfp?) is of me about… 5 years ago I think?

@@SimonClarkstone now wheres the fun in that

I'm surprised nobody's made an anime based off of this game yet lol

@@GenshinLover283 Don't worry, someone will make an awful film about it.

@@sephtisIsn’t it a little too late for that?

I understood that reference.

Well that brings back some good memories

God imagine your first click being an 8, talk about sweating bullets 😂

@@AnonymousGentooman mean Yes, but if that's your Only information you're fairly likely to hit a mine at your next click, also if your first click turns out to be a Mine the game will move it to the top left corner, so it's the most suspect tile on the board as it's fairly likely to be one due to this

@@AnonymousGentooman Yeah, as soon as you see the 8 just click elsewhere, don't even bother flagging them, as you won't really save much clicks with chording.

as a minesweeper veteran, thank you for recommendation

Yo I need to check that out! Thank you! I mostly speedsolve nowadays, (53sec pb)

I recently found this game through another KZfaqr and I now play it every time I get the chance. What I like most is that there is never a situation where you can loose because of too little information. No game has a chance factor involved.

I"ll check that out, but I'd love to see her Play demoncrawl, a minesweeper roguelike.

@@ignaeon she's been playing demoncrawl a lot on her twitch recently

Maybe it's a no-guess expert board?

​@@laeb08 She talks about the possibility of a 50/50, so I assume it isn't

should be added to the war rule book that minefields have to be numbered like this

​@@fishtail2616 Would love to but I'm no world government federalist

She's good at explaining, but she's certainly not a good player. Notice how she cords every step of the way, places every flag and doesn't fill out patterns as she goes? That's something you only see in beginners, not that there's anything wrong with that. If you give it a week or two, getting your first expert complete won't be a tall order and it's likely you'll be somewhere around the 250 second mark. For reference, my first complete expert was 274 seconds, got to 150 in a week after that and now, a year later, I'm sitting at 78. Won't take you long man, good luck.

@@alihasanaxe4936 People who spend immense amounts of time improving at a single game are always so quick to explain why X person isn’t actually “good” because they themselves did Y. As if they are the only standard by which to judge whether someone is “good” at the game or not. You don’t have to be better 99% of a playerbase to be “good” at a game. Not only is that an unhealthy way of thinking, it’s also just realistically incorrect.

@@desuvult15 This isn't one of those times. It's got nothing to do with my performance, it's about the factually novice performance this chick shows. Surely she's gotten much better by now, but this is the way a beginner solves. 99% of players would be better than this lmao

​@@alihasanaxe4936bruh, she's using the flags as visual information for those who are just starting

Well, she's playing and teaching at the same time. If you're concentrating on the game, getting under 300 on Expert shouldn't be too difficult when you do finally manage to get a clear.

i think hexcells is actually marketed as better minesweeper lol

If you don't like the guessing, I suggest the version in Simon Tatham's games collection, where it checks it's solvable by logic. It also allows undoing of death, but it keeps track of how many times you die.

reading this made me search for what hexcells is and find 2kliksphilip's review.

how about nf? how about sup-12 exp? can she do that?

Beyond that, how her mind processes information is nothing short of impressive.

Its great to see her this good, but this level of competency is achievable without the need to consider the trainee's personal processing rate (rng level if you like to think). I believe that after about 30 games or so of expert minesweeper would get you up on par with her

This is a totally normal run, actually, if slightly lucky. It's more impressive that talking didn't slow her down much than the score she managed to get. If you apply these tips with some practice you should be able to do that too.

dm is perfectly normal at minesweeper. I'm saying this as someone who backseated her while she learned the game until she got to this level. You can get most of the way here with a few hours of practice after you understand how the game works.

A great minesweeper player wouldn't use as many redundant flags. You can save on clicks and time by being careful about which squares to flag and which to just ignore. In general you want to use the flag only when it would save you clicks. That said, not flagging also largely removes the ability to keep count of how many mines left, which could allow you to deduce where some of the last mines are in some situations.

You can also use the middle mouse button.

When I was a kid teaching myself how to play by trial and error, not knowing about either clicking with both buttons or using the right click to plant flags made it difficult. The both buttons thing speeds it up a lot and reduced my rate of misclicks.

If you like the idea of a puzzle game that doesn't explain itself, I highly recommend The Witness. The rules of the puzzles are never explicitly explained. You have to find simple puzzles you can solve by trial and error and infer the rules from them, which then allows solving more complex puzzles. It's brilliant.

@@majorgnu I actually hate puzzle games that don't explain their mechanics, Minesweeper just had very few mechanics to sus out and was satisfying once you knew what to do.

It's definitely sped up, she completes it at 5:12 with the timer saying 436 seconds which is 7:16. It's sped up by a third

​@@duskyrc1373 looking at how fast the counter goes up in the top right will show that it is NOT sped up there are a few pieces of footage cut out though, which you saw. not sped up, just cut for better viewing

@@brentpowell1035 rewatching it, those 'cuts' are often a second (or less) cut every few seconds. By the time the video is only 8 seconds in the timer already says 10 (both start at 0). True it may have been done with cuts rather than simply speeding it up, but it is effectively the same thing at that point.

How could you not get it? There's a 1 threre so thats a bomb and a 2 there so there's a bomb there and the one over there is a bomb and the 4's well you come back to that and there's a bomb and the 3 which have bombs there and there and you are done. Simple

@@krampusklaws2238 I get it. So there’s a bomb there, but not there, so we click. That shows us two bombs here and three bombs maybe here, but we don’t know so we don’t click. And here is one bomb, but it could be two, so we click over there to figure that out. Now we see two bombs here and four bombs here, which means we go to the other side of the screen and click over here where there’s no bombs which shows us that three are right here

@@theaspie3121 You got it! Now you are a minesweeper master

Before she started flitting from place to place, narrating her train of thought constantly switching tracks, she said that the number on each square represents how many of the (up to) eight squares immediately around it have bombs. When the number of covered squares (flagged/unrevealed) around a number equals said number, all of those squares are bombs; you can/should flag them by right-clicking on them. I think most of what she didn't bother to explain, "this is a 2, so these are bombs", was this sort of situation, partly because it's such a common situation in minesweeper that she'd have sounded horribly repetitive if she did continue to explain it after the first 30 seconds, and partly because it's such a "simple" situation that an experienced person will assume an inexperienced person won't have trouble following. I think she explained most of the techniques she used at least the first time she used them (but it might have been too muddled to follow in some cases). She (should have) said clicking with both mouse buttons on a revealed square, if it has the right number of flags around it, will reveal all the unflagged squares around it-rewatching, she stuttered enough that I think she misspoke at that part. She showed that if the square doesn't have enough flags around it, clicking with both buttons presses the surrounding squares down but they pop back up without revealing anything (because when there are too few flags, revealing all the unflagged squares is guaranteed to reveal a bomb). She mentioned some patterns, but you tend to pick several of them up as you play the game, because you start to remember the solutions to problems you already solved; it's not a big deal if you don't start out knowing them. Also nobody wants to read me describing the patterns to explain why they have the solutions they do. It was interesting that she explicitly mentioned some things I tend to assume are obvious because of how logical they are, like leaving regions for later when you run out of simple reasons that this square is a bomb to flag, or this square is a clear space to reveal. More generally, if it's "important" to get right, you don't want to _guess_ at it when you can leave it blank and come back later with a better chance of not needing to guess.

@@awfuldynne Thanks. I did understand the basics of the game, but it did get a bit confusing once she started going fast. My comment was more of a joke and being in awe of her speed, so sorry if that was misunderstood. Thank you for taking the time to give a thorough explanation of how the game is played

evidence #1 that that whole section from 1:00 - end is ineffective

It's not a terrible tactic to click a few times randomly at the start of a game. If you hit a bomb, just start again, it only cost you a few seconds.

not hololive she is a indie vtuber

@@simonsoupshark8009 Eh, potato potato

@@grimstnzborithbrisingr7296 You are one of those people who thinks Dumbledore is a Star Wars character aren't you?

@@starshade7826 What kind of stupid question is that?

@@starshade7826 oh I Had one or two ocasions we're I acidantly Said to dumbeodor, Gandalf

ever heard of kiraa96?

depends on your skill level. i dont wanna sound arrogant but for me its nothing to brag about