How to Prevent Warping When Welding - Kevin Caron

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Kevin Caron, Artist

Kevin Caron, Artist

8 жыл бұрын

From www.kevincaron.com - Artist Kevin Caron answers a frequent question: how do you keep your work from warping when welding? The answer may surprise you ....
Viewers tell Caron that they are trying to weld a corner or weld something to a flat plate and the metal warps. They ask, "How do you keep the metal from warping?"
If you are trying to weld a 45 degree angle, Caron recommends a 45 degree metal clamp. The one he uses is from Bessey, a German company. It's good and heavy. Put your metal in the clamp, true it up, and tighten the clamp. Now you are ready to weld.
What do you do if you don't have a clamp or any way to jig up the metal? If you're welding on a metal work table, weld your work TO the table! You don't need much of a tack to do the job. Caron shows a piece of square tubing and shows that you only need about three or four 1/4" or 3/8" tack welds to hold it. You don't want to weld the whole thing because you'll need to cut those tacks loose. But those little tack welds are enough to make sure your work isn't going anywhere!
Clamping the metal to the workbench doesn't work - you just can't clamp it hard enough. The work wants to move when you put heat to it as you're welding.
If you're starting with a couple of 45 degree angles, whether you cut them on a horizontal bandsaw, a chopsaw or use a framing square and a scribe - not a pencil, chalk or other marker - with a single straight line, you're going to get a nice straight, true cut.
But how are you going to make the upright section of metal from moving? Get a piece of scrap metal, cut two 45 degrees on it, and place it in the elbow of your L-shape. Tack it on each end to keep the metal from warping backward or forward. Now take another piece of scrap and tack it on the outside, top and bottom, perpendicular to your L-shape. Now it can't go side to side, either.
It's time to weld your joint. Weld the four corners and across the top, across both sides. Now your joint is solid and you can cut off the braces, cut off your spot welds, pull the piece off your welding table, and weld the sections you couldn't get to. Everything is now straight and smooth.
The same is true if you're welding plate metal. Spot weld it to your workbench. Put the piece on you want to weld. If it's a leg, for example, you can's just weld the four corners to the plate. It's going to warp; it's going to move. Once again, use your scrap metal as braces at perpendicular angles and weld small tacks to hold it down. Now it can't move as you weld.
Once everything is solid, weld the four corners and each side. Cut your braces and tacks loose, and you're good to go.
What about long welds? If you're butting two pieces of metal together, for instance, and welding them to create a wider plate, you can't start at one end and start welding - it'll warp. Put your plate on your bench, and tack it down. Weld it on both ends, then weld it in the middle. Go about a third of the way, unless it's a really long run, whereupon you'll want to break it up even more.
Tack it on each end, then weld that third. Let it cool. Then get your outside welds, always working in toward the middle. That helps push the heat to the metal, where it's already been welded.
How do you remove the tack welds? Caron uses Walter Zip Wheel cut off disks. They come in a package. They're thin and take a tiny kerf. They strong and last a long time. Caron puts one on a 4-1/2" grinder, holds the disk at an angle, and cuts the weld loose. Then he cleans up those little areas where the tack welds were with a grinder.
Caron is ready to go back to work, so you have time to subscribe and see the videos he posts each Wednesday. You can also go to www.kevincaron to see more how-to videos and his wild sculptures.
Unless you want to wait one more moment to see him gracefully handle a square ....
"Inspired sculpture for public & private places."
Artist Kevin Caron has been sculpting full time since 2006. You can see his more than 45 commissions in public and private places coast-to-coast and online at www.kevincaron.com.
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@steeldesigns1500
@steeldesigns1500 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been welding for a long time but its always nice to hear how someone solves problems
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 2 жыл бұрын
And I have had my share of them for sure! Thanks for watching and posting.
@DFWKen
@DFWKen 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the anti-warping lesson, Kevin. Appreciate your taking the time to produce these how-to videos.
@WILSON.1
@WILSON.1 8 жыл бұрын
I find, with your videos, I listen to every word you say the first time I watch them. It's terrific.
@RenatSavi
@RenatSavi 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reminding me the essential sometimes underappreciated tack welding technique.
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@DENicholsAutoBravado
@DENicholsAutoBravado 8 жыл бұрын
This is a much better technique than I've previously learned. A welder on KZfaq (specific, right? lol) said he had found the perfect order of operations for which sides, which direction, and the warping would about balance itself out when you were welding a four-sided object such as the example in this video. Having the jig or welding temporary support in makes a lot more sense! :)
@CharlesStruble
@CharlesStruble 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. As always, good, practical advice, well presented. We appreciate it...
@MountainStorm
@MountainStorm 8 жыл бұрын
Helpful tips for sure. Thanks Kevin!
@sjbl1962
@sjbl1962 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, great tips. Thanks Kevin.
@aaronnelson9981
@aaronnelson9981 8 жыл бұрын
You're cool. Thanks for more great information. I'm pretty much learning to weld from KZfaq, and I really appreciate all your help.
@L.O.R.D.Y
@L.O.R.D.Y 8 жыл бұрын
simple tip and great idea thanks kevin...
@davidhanks9679
@davidhanks9679 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips.. I'm still new to welding, so my welding skills are a work in progress.
@mountainsmith4716
@mountainsmith4716 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin! You're awesome.
@paulg444
@paulg444 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, very helpful, I wish I had watched this before I just warped a 14gauge plate!!
@davidschwartz9636
@davidschwartz9636 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin for another very helpful video regarding preventing distortion. - I got a job to make up some big gates. I need to do a top rate job, as if I do, there's going to be much more of that work coming my way.
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 2 жыл бұрын
Just remember to have fun while you are doing it!
@ChewbacaTW
@ChewbacaTW 8 жыл бұрын
Great Tips kevin! thanks!
@monolito8556
@monolito8556 6 жыл бұрын
Nice method, thanks mr
@Rowganlife
@Rowganlife 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for all the videos! Super appreciated!
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 5 жыл бұрын
And I do really appreciate you stopping by!
@TheXandoor
@TheXandoor 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this will help me alot.
@MattsMotorz
@MattsMotorz 8 жыл бұрын
Great video
@dalibordurdov9505
@dalibordurdov9505 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! So simple, so effective!
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 2 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome!
@adammontgomery7980
@adammontgomery7980 7 ай бұрын
made a shop table recently, quick and dirty. One of the legs needed a 1/8" - 3/16" shim even though I welded everything on a dead flat table. It's not a huge deal, but I've often wondered how I would do it if I was getting paid to do it.
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 7 ай бұрын
That's why I weld things to the table as I weld them together.
@EcoMouseChannel
@EcoMouseChannel 8 жыл бұрын
I can't stress this enough... if you are new to welding, get as many jigs, clamps, braces and thing-a-ma-whatzitz that YOU CAN'T afford. Just close your eyes, and open your wallet... every little job you get, re-invest into more clamps. It seriously flattens the learning curve when you are properly tooled up. Makes a beginner welder have more confidence. That, and seriously taking your time. This isn't wood working, need to slow down and be more methodical with your next actions.
@davem3953
@davem3953 6 жыл бұрын
Eco Mouse - I agree ... I love my tools more than a fashionista loves her shoes. Funny you mentioned woodworking because any time you cut wood (especially along the grain), it warps, bows and twists; and then you have to plane or joint it (aiming for perfection). Metal has its own way of being a PITA. What a world, what a world.
@MotorCycleTheray
@MotorCycleTheray 8 жыл бұрын
Always learn stuff I never expected to from uncle Kevin
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+MotorcycleTherapy OH God!! Uncle Kevin?!?!?!?!? It's the gray hair isn't it?!?!
@MotorCycleTheray
@MotorCycleTheray 8 жыл бұрын
haha
@chrisgenovese8188
@chrisgenovese8188 2 жыл бұрын
Informative and charming!
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and posting.
@junaidchaudhary1520
@junaidchaudhary1520 10 ай бұрын
Effective, I can try after tomorrow 😊
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 10 ай бұрын
All the best
@1963impala2drWaylonWire
@1963impala2drWaylonWire 8 жыл бұрын
excellent video! I was checking out that nice piece of brass art work in the background.. :)
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+1963impala2dr Wait till you see the photos of it in the stand!!!
@1963impala2drWaylonWire
@1963impala2drWaylonWire 8 жыл бұрын
Kevin Caron, Artist cant wait!
@Mrjoelaguirre
@Mrjoelaguirre 8 жыл бұрын
I like your 45 clamp that cool great
@MrPyro2498
@MrPyro2498 Жыл бұрын
Automatically subscribe after watch this as 1st video 😁👍🏻👍🏻 Thanks for the info 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@voyeger4464
@voyeger4464 6 жыл бұрын
I love it when you say taccot.. taccot.. haha. nice tips
@gerxiong2709
@gerxiong2709 3 жыл бұрын
thanks kevin
@vigilantobserver8389
@vigilantobserver8389 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your instruction, Kevin! I like your technique and have subscribed! I have to weld on a vehicle. A 4" x 4" 1018 steel plate needs welding on to a part of the frame, which "looks" like it could warp as well. Your opinion would be greatly appreciated!
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Sadly I have never welded on a frame. I was always told to never weld a frame because they are heat treated and welding them will cause other problems.
@bearwoodcarpentry
@bearwoodcarpentry 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin. Session 2 of my welding course tnite. Question... Can you do a short vid on cleaning prior to welding what product to use how thorough you need to be etc etc thx mate.
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+bearwoodcarpentry try this one..... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i76IgJmamKyuZac.html
@bjoernbuck7173
@bjoernbuck7173 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin, I keep coming back to Your videos - thanks for the lessons! About that angle clamp: Is it - the large Bessey (WSM12 Current Passage Max (mm): 100 / Opening (mm): 120 /Jaw Height (mm): 61 / Jaw Length (mm): 120 ) OR - the small Bessey (WSM9 Current Passage Max (mm): 60 / Opening (mm): 90 /Jaw Height (mm): 35 / Jaw Length (mm): 110 ) ? Much obliged - soon as I know which one does it for You I will buy the darn thing, for I have to build a welding table before I can tack things to it in the first place :P All the Best, Bjoern
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 3 жыл бұрын
The large one will go smaller but you can't make the small one go any bigger. Oh hell, get both! I have the large one.
@bjoernbuck7173
@bjoernbuck7173 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevincaronSculpture Thank You Kevin!! The large one it is! ^.^
@petertwiss356
@petertwiss356 2 жыл бұрын
Dood wtf this is valuable info! Great video!!
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and posting.
@petertwiss356
@petertwiss356 2 жыл бұрын
@@KevincaronSculpture I've been watching of ton of welding videos as a new welding and the warping has been a problem. Been using the correct sequencing and tig'ing fast but it will does it. But tacking to the table is genius yet I feel dumb I didn't think of it myself as that is what the welding table is for haha.
@fraguzz
@fraguzz 5 жыл бұрын
3:17 you realize.. just buy the tool...
@baileyrahn266
@baileyrahn266 4 жыл бұрын
The exact second I stopped the video and checked the comments. lol why not just tack both to the table honestly. flip it re tack and do the rest.
@SoEpicreviews
@SoEpicreviews 8 жыл бұрын
identifying steels metals and thicknesses ex: stanless,carbon square tube ,angle iron, plate ,sheet ,expanded do a video on that
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+jon204 Need to learn more about this and I will give it a try... Thanks for the idea..
@bigcliffe
@bigcliffe 8 жыл бұрын
Kevin....I have a really big hammer.....
@fixt100
@fixt100 8 жыл бұрын
Kevin what is your experience with pre deflection? it may be useful to you in the art field (more welding sometimes just for looks) i know i have had to chain skids to the floor and jack them up in the middle so that when i weld them they will come out straight. i know this has limited use but its worth mentioning.
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+fixt100 Great question!! Wish I know more about this but yeah, I have set things out of line just to pull them in line with the weld.. A real art to it for sure.. Still practicing...
@brosephchillaxatron5440
@brosephchillaxatron5440 5 жыл бұрын
Not only is the table I have at work warped, but since the things Im working on are essentially large tanks to be filled with antifreeze, tacking that stainless sheet metal to the table isnt really an option for me. This forst one i made was just so warped. It's abput 16 feet of weld i have to get done as quick as I can. Is there a way to not only hold it straight, but minimize warpage?
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 5 жыл бұрын
Try welding a little on this side and then work on the other side. Keep jumping back and forth to different sections.
@DasLuftVolks
@DasLuftVolks 8 жыл бұрын
Ive heard of guys recommending to chase small spot welds with an air nozzle when working with thinner gauges of metal, have you ever tried it or recommend air to cool/prevent warping?
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
Nope, never heard of that one.. Suppose it would work..
@Rat454
@Rat454 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kev for the vids. What technique do you go to for aluminum?
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you are asking here..
@Rat454
@Rat454 8 жыл бұрын
+Kevin Caron, Artist sorry for not being specific. I mean the tacking to the bench works fine for steel, but what do you use for aluminum in situations where you can't use your corner clamp.
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
Cut a steel piece to tack to the bench to hold your aluminum down hard! Clamp it down so there is no slack and weld it. Not perfect but works like a charm.
@Rat454
@Rat454 8 жыл бұрын
+Kevin Caron, Artist thanks for the ideas Kevin. Once again great vids, very enjoyable content!
@Nick-xw3dk
@Nick-xw3dk 6 ай бұрын
Hi, what if you aren't welding on a table. If you're welding fender bungs on a motorcycle frame whats the best way to keep them from moving from the position they need to stay in?
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 6 ай бұрын
Good question! Clamp it in place and tack it. Or have someone hold it and tack it. About the only 2 options I know of.
@WILSON.1
@WILSON.1 8 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video, by chance, which offers any solutions to reverse warpage that has already occurred (due to welding before watching this video)? I turned my piece to get a look from another angle and now I can notice that it has a gradual curve that spans the entire length of 20 feet. I welded almost entirely on one side of this rectangular tube, and I have determined that metal bends in the direction of the heat. I was thinking perhaps by applying heat to the other side, it might bend back. To do that, I was thinking about just sticking an electrode to the other side and letting it get really hot. Thanks for any advice!
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+WILSON! You can sure try! Have not had much luck that way though.. Have tried clamping and heat also.. For me it has been hit and miss as to how well it works..
@WILSON.1
@WILSON.1 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your prompt response and advice. That's good to know. I'll have to take extra special care to space out my welds with future projects. I could only imagine how frustrating it would be to be building an extremely large and expensive work of art, only to apply too much heat and irreversibly bend the metal!! You must have great patience!
@chrisloveall2821
@chrisloveall2821 3 жыл бұрын
Any suggestions for joining flat plate when you're in the field and your worktop is a concrete pad?
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 3 жыл бұрын
All depends on what machinery you have on hand. Bolts to rivets to welding to epoxy. Need more information.
@chrisloveall2821
@chrisloveall2821 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevincaronSculpture I am not a welder by trade but I do get stuck with it sometimes. Usually, on hand I have the material, a few c and f clamps and a flux core wire feed. And it's usually in some parking lot or clubhouse swimming pool. Not much to work with.
@pidgeiam4979
@pidgeiam4979 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Kev can I get your professional opinion on this matter please. ...is there any concern over stress when doing it your way? Or what types of stress on the metal I should be concerns about? My thinking is if I've got it pinned to the table and weld it is there any stress elsewhere or dose HAZ "relax" the metal enough not to worry about it? It's hard for me to explain, but I hope you understand my question. I like the tip on using some scrap 45 pieces that's bright. Keep up the good work, as we all enjoy your vids. -Pidge
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+PiDGE IAM I have never seen any type of problem with doing it like this.. But keep in mind that I am not building an airplane here..
@grndragon2443
@grndragon2443 8 жыл бұрын
Kevin, I'm working on building a set of bumpers (3/16" plate mild steel), with no table. Have ideas to keep my angles without warping?
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+grn dragon Lots of braces. Bolt it to the truck and tack it all together in place.. Then remove and weld...
@grndragon2443
@grndragon2443 8 жыл бұрын
Should I be able to do one single cut with a plasma, being that it is over 4' long pieces?
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
Not a problem, long as you have the air compressor to keep up with it...
@TheWatchit45
@TheWatchit45 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, where is a good affordable source for the Walter 4 1/4” zip wheels?
@TheWatchit45
@TheWatchit45 6 жыл бұрын
4- 1/2”, oops
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 6 жыл бұрын
I get mine at Praxair.
@watchthe1369
@watchthe1369 8 жыл бұрын
Preheat? Does that help any?
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+watchthe1369 Not so much to keep form warping but it helps for thicker metals and smaller machines.
@rikcastillo7605
@rikcastillo7605 Жыл бұрын
Just tack weld everything? But Not to the table?
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture Жыл бұрын
I will weld to the table before I start all the welding. But for tack welds, most of the time I don't.
@Mikemaladar
@Mikemaladar 8 жыл бұрын
How can we get a good 45 degree cut in the first place?
@TripleWhopperWithCheese
@TripleWhopperWithCheese 8 жыл бұрын
+Sergeant Doge band saw
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+Sergeant Doge Use a framing square and a scribe to make your mark.. Then cut really close to the line and really carefully. Should work great...
@jaygod6140
@jaygod6140 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta ask. what up with all the RR spikes?
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 2 жыл бұрын
Come to my website and see all the yard art I make with them.
@yusufmirza412
@yusufmirza412 5 жыл бұрын
Mr kevin caron..where u from sir
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 5 жыл бұрын
Born in Stratford Ct. Grew up in the desert around Phoenix Az.
@ppger44
@ppger44 8 жыл бұрын
But, aren't you pitting the table by grinding the welds off therefore, its not flat anymore?
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+John D I do go back and fill and grind flat the divots I am making... After a while,, like 8 to 10 years, I will change the top for a new one.....
@ppger44
@ppger44 8 жыл бұрын
I'm probably thinking welding tables are too precious.
@Proscar-ne4qh
@Proscar-ne4qh 4 ай бұрын
What if I don’t have a metal table…
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 4 ай бұрын
You could make a table. Bolt a sheet of 3/4 inch to the table you have now. Or buy lots of clamps and learn how to take a warp out of a piece of metal.
@felixcat4346
@felixcat4346 8 жыл бұрын
Welding tables look expensive, over time it probably will ruin the thing. In most cases, getting the right tool to do the job is the solution.
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Nicholas Or just changing the top for a new flat one,,,
@robertcoyle1532
@robertcoyle1532 8 жыл бұрын
Hay Kevin... whatcha gonna do with all those railroad spikes? Can we watch??
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Coyle Going to make a really big sculpture and of course you can watch.. Just check out my website and click on "in the works"
@natanshvarts31
@natanshvarts31 8 жыл бұрын
I think tecking it to the table is a very bad idea, because the effort to grind it off is so much more than just clamp it to the table.
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 8 жыл бұрын
+emesdiki mamesh But the clamp will not hold it as tight as a couple of spot welds.. All depends on what you are doing I guess.. I have had the best luck just welding it to the table...
@greathodgy22
@greathodgy22 8 жыл бұрын
. Yup looks like you are building your own RR. .
@nakinnovations8800
@nakinnovations8800 4 жыл бұрын
"Hey cavin what you are doing"?interesting
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 4 жыл бұрын
Just having fun with my job.
@Yellow.Dog.
@Yellow.Dog. 8 жыл бұрын
More tools for the tool box between your ears, thanks!
@bigcliffe
@bigcliffe 8 жыл бұрын
Now I can give that hammer a rest
@grzegorz16100
@grzegorz16100 2 ай бұрын
I like the Jordan Peterson voice over
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 2 ай бұрын
Whatever..
@bonedancer3973
@bonedancer3973 2 жыл бұрын
This is idiotic. It's all about weld sequence and nothing more. You don't need to weld anything to your welding table. You want your welding surface flat and smooth at all times and you damn sure don't want to be grinding on your welding table. This is the most idiotic thing I've ever seen.
@KevincaronSculpture
@KevincaronSculpture 2 жыл бұрын
Well I have been doing this for 20 years and it works fine for me. Might I suggest looking somewhere else for your entertainment?
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