How to properly control illusions heroes

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00:00 - 00:26 Intro
00:26 - 02:56 General Settings
02:56 - 04:16 Naga Siren
04:16 - 06:40 Terrorblade
06:40 - 08:38 Phantom Lancer
08:38 - 09:01 Outro
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@iphonai
@iphonai Жыл бұрын
Learned a few tricks! I’ve been wanting an illusion guide for quite some time, very useful 👌🏻
@keithnicholas
@keithnicholas Жыл бұрын
Video is super useful, but I was still confused about a couple of things and the comments were a big help, this is my summary of what was useful. Biggest clarification that I got from multiple comments :- control groups are remembered, not only across multiple spawns of the illusions, but across games / quitting the game. Also, the same unit can be put into multiple control groups For Naga, to reduce my mental load I've assigned 1 illusion to 1, 2 to 2 and 3 select all other units (which is 3 to start with normally) and 4 to select my hero + my unit from 1. So I can split farm easier such that I can send 2 to 1 camp, send hero + 1 to another type of thing (may be a better way to do this, but this is getting me started!). I assigned space to select my hero (double tap space to select and center camera on hero). The other super useful tip is that ctrl right click movements issues movement orders to all units so if you want to get them all doing something "this is the way".
@adamscott4520
@adamscott4520 Жыл бұрын
The simplest illusion guide I've been wanting for YEARS! Thank you sir.
@farhangsadeghi2137
@farhangsadeghi2137 Жыл бұрын
bro you solved my many unknowns with that little notes about each hero, many thanks!!!
@avramandrei5423
@avramandrei5423 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Really waited for this guide!
@ngjn9613
@ngjn9613 Жыл бұрын
Another genius video man... thanks! Very helpful! 8500 games and always something to new to learn :D
@jasonevans2178
@jasonevans2178 Жыл бұрын
I needed this video! Thank you BSJ.
@metanoia6033
@metanoia6033 Жыл бұрын
This is really helpful! Thanks BSJ!
@bryansheldon9827
@bryansheldon9827 Жыл бұрын
Altought all those heroes are based on ilusion creation, they're so diffent one from another. That's what I enjoy the most on the game!
@SonoranSage
@SonoranSage Жыл бұрын
this was ridiculously helpful. Thank you
@Araragi298
@Araragi298 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea you could bind a key to toggle autoattack on the illusions! Game changer!!!
@dangahagan7645
@dangahagan7645 Жыл бұрын
For PL juking, the 100% dmg taken illusion is also always considered the first illusion summoned, so you can press tab to select it instead of a control group.
@markogamingtv7030
@markogamingtv7030 Жыл бұрын
I like to spam the control group for thst illusion when i press doppel, you can't do that with tab
@asd-dr9cf
@asd-dr9cf Жыл бұрын
Didn't know that. Thats actually v helpful!
@striker1253
@striker1253 Жыл бұрын
Great! I didn't know that PL thing.
@denisberashevich3994
@denisberashevich3994 10 ай бұрын
Would appreciate the guide with some tips and tricks on Meepo or Arc Warden, especially since Meepo became really popular nowadays. Your guide rocks!
@terrorterror6196
@terrorterror6196 Жыл бұрын
Love you bro.Your tricks are so efficient that even I who literally didn't play Dota 2 for like 4 years can make it through matches from being useless to useful man
@okehmueko2638
@okehmueko2638 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what i need tysm
@Flabber80
@Flabber80 Жыл бұрын
Thx bsj sir, its very useful for me. Thx
@Noel-Jean-Paul
@Noel-Jean-Paul 17 күн бұрын
Tip for hotkey for 'toggle autoattack' is very useful. Thanks BSJ!
@krpp
@krpp Жыл бұрын
You can also bind a key to focus on selected unit, to move the camera to a selected unit using a console command, nice for tab switching.
@golfsk129
@golfsk129 Жыл бұрын
Which console command is that? Thanks.
@feeldesu182
@feeldesu182 Жыл бұрын
@@golfsk129 I know I'm a little late but someone told me it's "bind KEY dota_camera_center"
@thanareelehnibruderer3122
@thanareelehnibruderer3122 Жыл бұрын
so good explained ty
@GabrielC1325
@GabrielC1325 Жыл бұрын
This really useful, ty
@aeon7570
@aeon7570 Жыл бұрын
Hey man. Great vid. How about chaos knight?
@dw-walter7869
@dw-walter7869 Жыл бұрын
thanks man it realy helps
@extremecanary2171
@extremecanary2171 Жыл бұрын
Really helpful thanks
@geraldbriceno7425
@geraldbriceno7425 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@litl_snek4268
@litl_snek4268 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what i was looking for. goddamn
@sorenyuki9303
@sorenyuki9303 Жыл бұрын
I needed this
@MOEMOEKYUNBEAM
@MOEMOEKYUNBEAM Жыл бұрын
This is so much better than me drawing a box and rightclicking like a fucking caveman. I've sent in my courier to die too many times to count lmao
@MrRicky192
@MrRicky192 Жыл бұрын
Holly shit! This was so useful. I have some hours played and I have learned a lot. No wonder I suck at ilu heroes.
@hegeliansours1312
@hegeliansours1312 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@hamzaebrahim699
@hamzaebrahim699 Жыл бұрын
bless this man
@Youmu_Konpaku_
@Youmu_Konpaku_ Жыл бұрын
Alternative title, "why you're gonna want to avoid these 3 heroes unless you want to"
@Scroolewse
@Scroolewse Жыл бұрын
These heroes are a lot easier than you'd think. It's only "hard" because you end up having to put more thought into farming than you normally would but once you get it down it is super satisfying.
@arnazian
@arnazian Жыл бұрын
@@Scroolewse even farming isn't that much different from any other hero that buys manta, which is a lot of them
@Champigne
@Champigne Жыл бұрын
It’s not that hard. It’s a lot easier than say Meepo or Chen.
@lukestclairmaitland3003
@lukestclairmaitland3003 9 ай бұрын
For me the draw to these heroes is the added level of skill/difficulty
@deulofeu7644
@deulofeu7644 5 ай бұрын
How do you know😂😂
@AnarchyDucky
@AnarchyDucky Жыл бұрын
Great video
@Mr.gameplayer123
@Mr.gameplayer123 2 ай бұрын
Good one, like this content.
@shezh9597
@shezh9597 Жыл бұрын
YES ! YES ! YEEESSS! GGWP BSJ!
@ejejo
@ejejo Жыл бұрын
excelente!
@zorrosoberon
@zorrosoberon Жыл бұрын
Excelent as always!
@nicholaspriester4704
@nicholaspriester4704 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid
@TheGermanCreation
@TheGermanCreation Жыл бұрын
Appreciated Mister Jamma
@mortezamahmoudi616
@mortezamahmoudi616 Жыл бұрын
Top tier content here
@AcceptanceDevOps
@AcceptanceDevOps Жыл бұрын
This video is 10/10 dude
@vladiperez
@vladiperez Жыл бұрын
going to add to all the others that were probably waiting for this guide. Is this also applicable to summons from NP, Lycan, etc?
@HigaaraEnd
@HigaaraEnd Жыл бұрын
Of course, it works with all summons, whatever they are. It's especially useful on druid, shadow demon, visage and beastmaster where you can make your summons cover your flee by attacking your chaser
@aaronaustria1273
@aaronaustria1273 Жыл бұрын
thank god bsj updated illu control turorial
@furquankhizar2496
@furquankhizar2496 Жыл бұрын
Can we get a video on good map reading habits and tools that can help awareness across the map?
@34jerusalem
@34jerusalem Жыл бұрын
ty.
@sofaking4779
@sofaking4779 Жыл бұрын
Is there any reason you would do anything different for summon heroes like Brood or HelmDom Lycan? I have them essentially setup the same way with select all, other, and tab to last. Although the tab to last bite you if you are not keeping track.
@SirRichardHardon
@SirRichardHardon Жыл бұрын
For lycan/beast I set my wolves/boars to a hotkey and the neutral to another. Brood could be a 15 min video for hotkey management. There is a Brood spammer that has relatively low views that made a really good Brood guide not too long ago. Can't remember the name and too lazy to look it up.
@redypo
@redypo Жыл бұрын
what do you do for your item hotkeys? im so used to using my numbers as items
@bebekxettri9634
@bebekxettri9634 Жыл бұрын
i like mouse wheel up /down for selecting hero /all
@yehorveremii
@yehorveremii 7 ай бұрын
Genius move
@marsiji
@marsiji Жыл бұрын
So if you control bind an illusion once, it will be the same when you resummon them?
@sakeondeez
@sakeondeez Жыл бұрын
do these htokeys stay or do you have to reassign them every time you load up a new game
@samuelelliott8453
@samuelelliott8453 Жыл бұрын
So is there a way to toggle your illusions' auto attack instead of toggling the heroes auto attack?
@Scroolewse
@Scroolewse Жыл бұрын
What about cloning? I remember a while ago when Radiance Naga was meta I watched some guide that had to do with clicking on portraits, I used that one to gain a stupid amount of MMR
@totoupetra4873
@totoupetra4873 Жыл бұрын
its about the same thing, u just go select all units, then move to one place, then ctrl click one illusion, then proceed to move other place, and so on and so on, so they could move in different places. but if you want a better control, u can do bsj trick
@oxoxoxoxo542
@oxoxoxoxo542 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on all your hotkeys/ settings ?
@Peter-fq2rq
@Peter-fq2rq Жыл бұрын
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@TokinAg08
@TokinAg08 Жыл бұрын
Unified orders using Ctrl is extremely useful.. wish it would have been mentioned.
@lamby587
@lamby587 Жыл бұрын
Yeah been using this for years very helpful. I think some illusion A click tricks on the minimap is also useful advice to quickly disperse naga illusions to camps or lane.
@Septentrional33
@Septentrional33 Жыл бұрын
Idk why my control groups always resets but it used to be saved anyone know if its some steam cloud setting or smth
@BB8enjoyer
@BB8enjoyer Жыл бұрын
BSJ LONE DRUID POGGGG
@satoonizuka1338
@satoonizuka1338 10 ай бұрын
i have 2 questions: how can i send an illusion to clear a camp and make that illusion to move into another camp after clear it, i see lot of pro do that, like they send an illu to a camp and queue to the next camp once they done. And i also see player to get the view of the selected unit every time they select it, like the currier or tb illus, they "v" and the camera move into it instants. (i know double tap the v will do it, but looks like always does in those players) thanks
@DEADSHANKSPEARE
@DEADSHANKSPEARE 8 ай бұрын
i think you can shift+click orders to queue them
@Axaerys
@Axaerys Жыл бұрын
I was just about to search "how to use control groups for Naga" .
@dipankarsaha4388
@dipankarsaha4388 Жыл бұрын
Is there a Arc warden micro guide?
@stefanbarosanu5718
@stefanbarosanu5718 Жыл бұрын
on god
@esquillo3708
@esquillo3708 Жыл бұрын
As brood, everytime I tab it selects all my spiderlings, i dunno what's happenning
@MyWatermelonz
@MyWatermelonz Жыл бұрын
Time for the meepo tutorial
@nikianne290
@nikianne290 Жыл бұрын
This feels like a meepo tutorial for me. 😅
@thyred3167
@thyred3167 Жыл бұрын
chaos knight :( would a vid on brood be possible also or are you just way more comfortable on these 3 heroes? would've been nice to say when to use select units on summon or not also, i do it with naga and tb but no pl for example
@aldifirmansyah7543
@aldifirmansyah7543 Жыл бұрын
why be sad my brother? isn't ck has the same concept just like naga?
@Nyreios
@Nyreios Жыл бұрын
@@aldifirmansyah7543 naga splits illus alot. with ck you just need the "select all button" and then yolo on a support
@norkci8090
@norkci8090 Жыл бұрын
​@@Nyreios Yeah. This is probably why BSJ didn't include CK. His illusions are only used for demolishing in clash.
@pedro4205
@pedro4205 Жыл бұрын
Too many hotkeys for my 3 buttons office mouse. But i'm playing at low mmr, so isn't like i really need this many functions 😅😅
@musaka87
@musaka87 Жыл бұрын
Question: Do I have to assign the control groups on new illustions or the game will remember that "manta" illusionts are on X hotkey, and first 2 naga illusions are on Y hotkey, and the second two naga illusions are on Z hotkey?
@Scroooper
@Scroooper Жыл бұрын
Are you asking if you have to reassign them every game? The game will remember the hotkey you "store" them to. You don't have to do it every other game. You can do it in your current game or, like the video, in demo mode.
@musaka87
@musaka87 Жыл бұрын
@@Scroooper Let's say I summon 3 naga illusions and ctrl+hotkey assign 2 illusions to X and 1 illusion to Y. Then these illusions expire and I summon another 3 illusions. Now when I press X, will 2 of the new illusions be selected or I need to assign them with ctrl+X again?
@Scroooper
@Scroooper Жыл бұрын
@@musaka87 It will remember the hotkey you assigned previously.
@musaka87
@musaka87 Жыл бұрын
@@Scroooper Nice, thanks :)
@nikianne290
@nikianne290 Жыл бұрын
As for my experience since I frequently use illusion or summoned units, once a certain unit is spawned, illusion or summoned like brood mother or pl. Just press the same group that you just pressed before that unit was spawned, it will be added.
@dominikchwast3657
@dominikchwast3657 Жыл бұрын
You are making a monsters
@ivoschottner5362
@ivoschottner5362 Жыл бұрын
Can you pls make a PL guide :). How to play the hero the best :)
@dmbu2594
@dmbu2594 Жыл бұрын
He already doese have a guid on pl
@canesvenatici9588
@canesvenatici9588 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and also watch nightfall's pl game analysis.
@ivoschottner5362
@ivoschottner5362 Жыл бұрын
I know but it is already 1 year old. Would be nice to have one more guide :)
@BackpackBattlesTV
@BackpackBattlesTV Жыл бұрын
Trick for PL juking: Just get inside demo, use dopple, choose the 100% dmg taken illu, press ctr+2 (the number can be whatever). And when you dopple, and click 2, it will always choose the 100% illu (even in real games outside demo). You only have to do this in demo 1 time, and spam it forever.
@thesungoesdownandsodoesshe3347
@thesungoesdownandsodoesshe3347 Жыл бұрын
Called control binding
@benedictjajo
@benedictjajo Жыл бұрын
TAB+Attack ground . Done.
@yebwulebdullah
@yebwulebdullah Жыл бұрын
For some reason I interpreted the title as how to deal with illusion heroes on the enemy team
@Awesome-ct7vr
@Awesome-ct7vr Жыл бұрын
Next up arc warden caster, 4 active items.
@azux.
@azux. Жыл бұрын
Future BSJ sent me
@selimtv3428
@selimtv3428 Жыл бұрын
I'm a DS main, and I'm sad that he is not included on this.
@Reilly13445
@Reilly13445 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather hear how to find the real one in illusion heroes. Back in dota one it was easier to read Regen. Illus don't have Regen so you can see the hp bar difference so quick but that's not the thing on Dota 2 so yeah gg.
@ConspiracyJ
@ConspiracyJ Жыл бұрын
wow i just tried to change my hotkeys to match yours and im all fcked off
@alfonsosierra406
@alfonsosierra406 Жыл бұрын
I still use S to hold position 😂
@rastafari2k3
@rastafari2k3 Жыл бұрын
BSJ micro ICANT
@jinorelova
@jinorelova Жыл бұрын
Why no meepo
@blackbird6428
@blackbird6428 8 ай бұрын
Anyone here experiencing resetting control groups mid-game on its own? Having to bind again after respawning sucks
@rx550joker9
@rx550joker9 8 ай бұрын
did you do something about it?
@630s
@630s Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this guide i will proceed to never pick any of these heroes ever again
@ursulavondercrazy9197
@ursulavondercrazy9197 Жыл бұрын
I been playing Dota for 10+ years but I still cant multitasking illusions wtf 😂
@ErteiAblaou
@ErteiAblaou Жыл бұрын
comment!
@frizelfrancis
@frizelfrancis Жыл бұрын
Need an Item just to reveal illusions.
@mikegamerguy4776
@mikegamerguy4776 Жыл бұрын
comment
@stoopidoooo
@stoopidoooo Жыл бұрын
you talk about binding PL's specific doppel illusion, but dont actually explain how to....
@Ciao_Bambino
@Ciao_Bambino Жыл бұрын
first
@yellowscarlightningscream8347
@yellowscarlightningscream8347 Жыл бұрын
Please I beg you to delete this video. Illusion heroes are OP in lower bracket and its almost impossible to deal with them late game
@f1shdude
@f1shdude Жыл бұрын
cringe
@TheNanotekGt
@TheNanotekGt Жыл бұрын
why?
@thiagomafralazzari8958
@thiagomafralazzari8958 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNanotekGt don't even ask, he is just a poor boy looking for attention
@ArilandoArilando
@ArilandoArilando Жыл бұрын
Why?
@Zinian
@Zinian Жыл бұрын
And here I really thought your illusion hotkeys would be P N - ! $ 🙃 Awesome guide, I learned about the toggle autoattack.
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