How To Quote For A House Rewire

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How To Quote For A House Rewire.
Pricing a rewire can be a tricky process to get right, in this video I share my tips on how I do it, and we run through exactly how much I charged for one particular rewire we have been doing recently.
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@oyleyhands1332 3 жыл бұрын

For those rates I would expect you to have your own site lighting,wall chaser and vacuum

@jonathanfriedrich2941 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah really dont get it. I am not even an electrician, but bought a good Makita wall chaser just for chasing walls in our house when we rewired it, so that the electician just had to put cables in it. Even for one house it paid off easily

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

It’s also about having to store it, we don’t do many rewires so it’s always been a tool I just don’t have space to keep...

@oyleyhands1332 3 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics High end prices,should have high end equipment, in your armoury 😁😁😁

@alexwilliams4673 3 жыл бұрын

Surely you can just chase out with an sds and chisel bits and a load of polythene dust sheets..trug buckets/dust pans ready to catch all the rubble

@tezzatibbz2278 3 жыл бұрын

@Mike Clarke to be fair those wall chasers are really big,almost as big as a drill 🤣

@stephencunningham405 3 жыл бұрын

Another nice video Jordan. Not many people would discuss how to estimate a job and definitely not telling the price they charged. Quite brave of you good man big thumbs up off me keep them coming

@joepostle3561 3 жыл бұрын

Nice to have some transparency.

@blahblah7410 Жыл бұрын

more examples of quoting jobs please. a job for a consumer unit would be good

@brightsideofsaturn 3 жыл бұрын

You are the only person that can make a house rewire quote sound soothing

@mikeselectricstuff 3 жыл бұрын

For stuff like worklights you could probably buy some ebay cheapo ones for the cost of hiring them.

@TradifyHQ 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing - glad it worked out well in the end⚡️

@jimgeelan5949 3 жыл бұрын

Right to the point, no hiding this is how Artisan Electrics do it 💥💥 well done. Follow that you lot 😉more trades should be more upfront

@MMG_MoonManGuitar 3 жыл бұрын

Love your honesty mate.

@kangtheconqueror 3 жыл бұрын

Another excellent breakdown of essential inclusions that I, and others I am sure, may not have thought of. I get so much from your videos, Jordan. Thanks for your commitment to excellence.👍🏼

@Cablesmith 3 жыл бұрын

Nicely explained Jordan, very clear !

@911vee 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thank you. Keep up the great work.

@anyolirons 3 жыл бұрын

Great video mate, thanks! 💪🏽

@mattolive1 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Jordan, found it very informative on pricing for rewire 👍, looking forward to seeing you and the lads finish the rewire job on next video.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@gyasikrasineb4808 Жыл бұрын

Very eye opening thanks for this video 👍

@petertallowin6406 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent breakdown dude. Very honest and upfront. Pricing is always a concern for me, there seems to be something I forget to add in every time however every quote is a lesson learned. I for one appreciated this video, thanks Jordan. Take care Artisan crew.

@leebutterworth7465 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jordan great video on this rewire, very brave of you to publicly announce your pricing to all and sundry, I know you say you don't do many rewires and concentrate on other work, with regards to a wall chaser and Extractor I wouldn't be Hiring tools like that my old boss said to me "hiring is dead money if you have to hire something twice you should have bought one in the first place", for the price of a decent wall chaser (I have the Dewalt cordless 54 volt chaser and a Dewalt 240 volt extractor) once they're bought they're a company asset, many tradesman now hire self storage units for storing their own kit such as long step ladders, chaser, vacuum, work lights and platforms etc plus storage for all spare stock

@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative. Thanks.

@jonathanstephens7804 3 жыл бұрын

I've completed many rewires and a 3 bed usually is about 7-10 days at a steady pace for me and my apprentice. Just completed a 3 bed cottage in 12 days that was stone wall, nightmare runs etc etc. My price was less than 5k for the lot. I do respect your rates its a real eye opener as obviously its working for you so why would you go cheaper. Your yearly profits speak for itself, ignore the haters keep at what your doing mate :)

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot! I think you’re spot on with 7-10 days for a basic rewire!

@pauljones3580 2 жыл бұрын

What just Labour only I assume

@garethhodson3896 3 жыл бұрын

I like your honesty - occupied rewires are always a nightmare - I would always allow 50% more than whatever your quote comes out at. We only do empty houses now unless I know the customer really well. I wouldn’t have bothered with a chasing machine the apprentice is a lot cheaper. ☺️

@Ted_E_Bear 3 жыл бұрын

Jordan you are the best !!!!

@maal491 3 жыл бұрын

I am only half way to finish this video and so much hate in the comments, I think this is the best video ever where you 'personally' explain how to manage this particular job. Obviously everyone is different that's why not everyone is an electrician. Great video btw 👍

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@stuartmc18 3 жыл бұрын

I also avoid rewires for the same reasons as you. I can't get my head around electricians cutting prices down to the bare minimum to get such awful work. Love the videos.

@Chris-uu6dg 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your very interesting and helpful video 🙂

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

@benh6771 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jordan thanks for the video, it was really informative. Would be good to know (do a video on) what your ratio from quotes = booked business is and if that's something you analyse?

@stuartandrews4344 3 жыл бұрын

Old stocks of Artex containing asbestos was still being sold mid 2000, despite being banned in 1999,& you be surprised how many things in a older house contained asbestos,it's a long list. And I normally use independent tool hire places, than the big hire names,as I can get a cheaper price rates for hiring.

@paulhalgarth1164 3 жыл бұрын

Funny how so many electricians are ranting on here saying that Jordan charges too much, but in the next video the same sparks are moaning that there's no money in Electrics anymore. If everyone raised their prices across the board it would benefit you all yer? Well it seems to me that that's exactly what Jordan's doing here. It probably helps to be based in Cambridge, but he's making it work. Thanks for the videos Jordan.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks you’re spot on there!

@scottsaul Жыл бұрын

I find it easier to prove per point so the customer can understand where the figure comes from . Thanks for the really informative video as usual.

@topbuildingmaintenanceltd3027 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video, good to discuss it.I quote on average £6500 for 3 to 4 bedroom house, but the house should be empty. I'm self employed, but get guys in to help me with a rewire.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Nice thanks for sharing

@philburt52 3 жыл бұрын

What was the cost of the asbestos survey?

@jontownsend8090 3 жыл бұрын

Really interesting. Working for myself I estimate a rewire to take 3 to 4 weeks. I aspire to run my business to be more higher end so to speak. I always use quality accessories and do the best job I can. Some aspects of the job are unseen, but still the attention and care carries through. Customer service is the most important aspect of everything I do, I want repeat business, I want my business to be a success. I wish everyone out there that same success, we have all had to adapt over the last year, but at the same time, not taking anything for granted.

@SIHRA2 3 жыл бұрын

So well spoken. Lovely video. Thanks

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@UberAlphaSirus 3 жыл бұрын

A tip for conduit and its handy for loads of otherthings. Drill a 5mm hole , bend a riptie in half about an inch and a half from the head. Stick it in the hole and stick a screw in it like its a wall plug. Riptie anything you like to the wall then.

@mitchellsx 3 жыл бұрын

Great informative video. I recently purchased my first property in Leicester, 3 bed semi detached. Just had a full rewire done on my house which took around 8 days. Cost me £3k.. it is crazy the price differences I agree, 10k would of definitely priced me out, I nearly fell out my chair when that total came up..

@faiyazlatif8134 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Simon, can I ask who you used? I am in the process of looking for someone to rewire for a new house in Leicester before I move into it.

@morellosan8643 Жыл бұрын

@@faiyazlatif8134 hello brother, I am from leic and do rewires if still interested.

@RichardArblaster 3 жыл бұрын

Great video 😎

@Spark101. 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t worry mate. You won’t get many anyway, Not many people will pay £10k for a 4 bedroom house Rewire.

@jonathanstephens7804 3 жыл бұрын

I dunno, he seems to be getting these rates somehow! lol

@amatchmadeindevon2005 3 жыл бұрын

I’m shocked, fairplay if you can get those rates, I personally wouldn’t have the nerve to print that sum and send it to someone unless it was a joke 😂 it’s £55 a socket, £55 a downlight, for middle of the road, £65 USB socket, we done a 5 bed rewire last year few down lights in this price, £7,800 inc vat

@Spark101. 3 жыл бұрын

Fair play to him I suppose. I seriously don’t know anyone who charges these rates though. And looking at his work on KZfaq, he’s no better than the average electrician who is good at his job. He’s not a cut above, which is what I would expect for the over inflated prices. You can tell his mentality......‘I will show you how ‘I’ price a rewire.....not how an ‘average joe’ prices one. He certainly thinks he’s a cut above. Good luck to him. He seems to be convincing his customers he is super sparks. How would they know different! He probably believes it himself.

@tezzatibbz2278 3 жыл бұрын

@@Spark101. and he's also raising extra money from this channel and promoting things. I thought he went too far when he was asking apprentices to donate 🤣

@Spark101. 3 жыл бұрын

@@tezzatibbz2278 He also went too far charging £1000 for a business course. No doubt, lots of apprentices and trainee’s who dream of making it are now a grand down after paying for information you’ll likely learn just by going through the process of starting a business, and making all the mistakes yourself. Which, is probably the best way to learn. He thinks £1000 for this common knowledge is reasonable. But then again, he also thinks £768.00 per man per day is reasonable. 😂😂 Imagine him having a coffee shop: ‘That’s £17 please’ £17!!!!!! For one coffee!! ‘Well, all our coffee is made with the most exquisite attention to detail, and our customer services during the course of us serving it to you is unrivalled! Granted, it isn’t 100% brand new because we used a second hand cup, but we have a great reputation so we price high end anyway’ Second hand cup and just coffee inside yea??? ‘Yea!’ Erm......yea, I’ll leave it then cheers! They do brand new cups with coffee in it down the road for £2 😂

@burridgeelectricalyourloca2075 3 жыл бұрын

This is how you run a electrical business! profits ,mark ups ,over heads and wages covered . Nearly all electricians are not businessmen and go with what everyone else is doing

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

SO true, thanks for your comment

@ericthekingthekingtheking4842 3 жыл бұрын

Should of got the scottish rewire boys on it pal 🤣 theyd of had that wired in a morning and plastered in the afternoon 🤣 no impact drivers were harmed in the makin of this video

@acelectricalsecurity 3 жыл бұрын

i try to stay away from rewires, they are hard work for little reward. if i do a house like this i will allow 10 days, and that will also include me patching up the chases, most of the time it will be done under 10 days. smoke alarms should be standard these days

@RobWalker1 Жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm considering getting our quite old-ish (I think 1930s) house rewired. it looks like it's quite a disruptive job - usually takes a few days - and what kind of ballpark cost - or does it very much depend? We also have a bit of a hoarding problem in the house - I imagine that this might add to the hassle and cost..?

@niallmacneill5525 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Jordan 👍 can’t wait to see the other videos from this job

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Day Two video is coming on Thursday at 5pm!

@bennyboy8446 3 жыл бұрын

Your right Jordan there is no money in rewire s and they are to much hard work for little money. All we do now are eicr and consumer unit changes

@Marco-mg9tv 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much my model too mate but I like to do the outdoor supplies /hot tubs etc too. Someone spends 10/15/20k etc on a big shed ...(sorry summerhouse...garden room.. whatever they want to call it ) they will generally be ok with paying a decent rate to have it connected up properly

@Emin3m1986 3 жыл бұрын

Last job I’ve priced and I’m doing... £9.500 - pendants, tiny kitchen, 10 days per 2 men job. Hager RCBO C/U, satellite sockets in every room, car charger provision.

@theetheeyog9878 3 жыл бұрын

Hats off to you man for sharing those prices i m just a handy man i always get my prices low listening to you give courage to put my prices up rightly so fuckin people wants jobs done for peanuts money

@orielzob2821 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a payment plan for your course?

@testingtechnicians6751 3 жыл бұрын

This is what I was looking for a long time. many thanks

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

@pault4793 3 жыл бұрын

if the customer wants a price for a rewire, its pointless carrying out an EICR and a waste of money for the client, IMO as your renewing all the cable, Even picking up the odd exisitng wires , not a good idea especially if the wiring is really old

@KevinSmith-ph6jv Жыл бұрын

I always quote per point for a rewire. Then itemise everything on the quote. So for instance if it’s £90 per socket, the client can easily see how much extra things are going to cost if anything changes. This has always worked well for me in terms of profit margins

@artisanelectrics Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your methods!

@claudiub3679 3 жыл бұрын

I am still surprised how people can come up with quotes of £3500-4k for a full rewire 3 or 4 bed house. I can not understand what you have to do to make money from that.. I am personally avoiding full rewire(unless if is a very important and good client, but still I would be far away from prices listed by some other people..)

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Good comment

@rob.1 3 жыл бұрын

They don't make money from it. Scrape a living, selling themselves cheap. A race to the bottom.

@johnmcfadden7418 3 жыл бұрын

how do you get an asbestos survey done and who pays for that the client?

@asdfghjkl52472 2 жыл бұрын

If you’re 100% gutting a house of its wiring and starting fresh, is there any point doing a eicr?

@Marco-mg9tv 3 жыл бұрын

Charging 1280 quid a day for 2 subcontract sparks well all I can say is if someone is willing to pay that then more fool them. Yes Artisan appear do a decent job but at the end of the day it’s a domestic install that any good professional electricial outfit should make a decent job of. Yes too many sparks don’t charge enough and it’s good to see rates are going up but these rates verge on ripping people off I think. On the other pricing model - per point - you can’t apply the same price to all points. A pendant can’t be the same as a heat detector or a 10mm shower supply. - I have a spreadsheet with rates for sockets, switches, down lights etc. You get what you pay for only to a degree - a socket or a switch or a luminaire wired neatly and to regs can’t be any more than just that. It’s not like you’ve put in some futuristic smart home system, cctv, fancy lighting system it ? As they say a fool and his money are easily parted.

@DavidDosSantos2 3 жыл бұрын

he stated that he only made £1000 profit, so are you saying he should be quoting jobs as a loss? Im confused

@Brynoize 3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidDosSantos2 1k profit for the buissness all wages are covered separate from that. A lot of sparks would work 5 days for that profit.

@Marco-mg9tv 3 жыл бұрын

He’s not including the what he actually paid to the guys and himself as ‘profit’ .

@lkm5462 3 жыл бұрын

Everything you said is why I never bid and just do hourly labor and materials. Otherwise I’m required to bid higher just to cover the unknown. As such if I bid high and don’t have as much labor as thought, I’ve done the customer a disservice other wise m the one who pays for underestimated time. No bid , hourly only. I charge 52£ an hour for me and more if there are others. I am an honest person and work hard and give an honest hours work. I am at the high end in my area and it gets rid of the low ball jobs

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

I agree that’s a safe way of doing things! Normally customers want to know how much something is gonna cost though so it’s difficult to do it that way.

@scotspie501douglas7 3 жыл бұрын

love your honesty and for £1000 not loads but hard work

@footyfactoryni 3 жыл бұрын

How do you get the wholesalers prices to import into your software?

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

They send us a price file and we import it into Tradify

@whatthedeuse 3 жыл бұрын

Fair play, if that’s what the market will bare taking into account area, spec and overheads of the business. Our company literally can’t make a profit on domestic re wires at a push DB upgrades as they’re quick also high end clients where it’s more on a commercial footing with rates, overheads kill it, with the office, office staff, vans, insurances, staff training, IT systems and software. If that’s what it cost you that’s what it cost you, evidently you’ve got a structure to your pricing and not just plucking number out of the air or what you think the customers “good for” and at the end of the day they can always choose not to have it done and opt for someone with far fewer overheads that can do a similar job cheaper. 🤘

@ADF-js9vi 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jordan. Do you / could you produce a checklist of questions to ask when discussing the rewire with the customer to avoid repetition?

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Good Plan!

@robertsmith9836 3 жыл бұрын

Repeat after me it's u plug

@rob.1 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting watch, but even more interesting reading the comments. A customer will pay what a customer is willing to pay. It's why people still shop at Waitrose when they know they could spend less at Lidl. A lot of this comes down to service and experience for a customer. Some people want excellent service. They want you to pick up the phone when they call, turn up on time, sell yourself, talk them through the job, issue a full, written quotation, and be there for a chat afterwards if they have any questions. Other customers are happy to wait for you to turn up when it suits you. Send an email quote 4 weeks later, and turn up to do the job when you've found time in your diary. Each to their own. All I would suggest as an industry we try to resist a race to the bottom. Both in terms of the quality we deliver, and the prices we charge. We are a skilled profession. Take pride in that.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Great comment thanks! I totally agree

@marcwilliams3921 3 жыл бұрын

How much for the asbestos survey bud

@chrisg449 3 жыл бұрын

Wow your the first electrical company that doesn't own a portable work light so what do you normally do in short days of winter?

@anthonywilliamson915 3 жыл бұрын

Another great video, and thanks for your honesty. £100 per point whenever you do a rewire is ok, how much is acceptable to ask if a one off new point?

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! New point price depends on how much work is involved

@SadAnorak Жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics Thats always my initial answer, however the customer does not want that answer! They don't like it when you find there's no RCD or bonding, loop too high, all spurs etc. etc.!! All they usually want is bottom line cheap price.

@fr1tzy2011 3 жыл бұрын

All I can say is fair play to you. I'm carrying out a 3 bed rewire with no downlights. Just standard install for letting. I'm charging £4000 Inc materials. 🤣🤣 That's a big difference. Maybe I need to rethink. I charge per point myself usually. £50 per point basic spec. Enjoy watching other electricians videos. Might be a way to go myself I think. Keep up the good work.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, the per point price seems to vary a lot from one company to another, other guys are charging £150 per point

@fr1tzy2011 3 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics that's just ridiculous if they are. Surely people aren't that stupid to fall for it. Maybe they are. Great work anyway, I think it's something I need to defo get going with. KZfaq seems a great advert for the business.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@saifulhaque5135 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, rethinking should be in moderation; otherwise there is a chance to loose the job.

@boat303 3 жыл бұрын

Whilst I think the price seems a tad high, and the timescale is more than I would allow. Perhaps for electricians who are not full time house bashers this is a realistic timescale. Maybe in terms of pricing this is where the industry should be headed, we all moan that electricians are poorly paid these days on site compared to other trades but our prices haven’t changed in 5-10 years for fear of being undercut and losing work or the client being horrified at what they actually should be paying for an experienced qualified electrician. Jordan’s confidence in his own ability to deliver a high quality service must speak volumes to the customers or he wouldn’t win work at those prices. Either that or there just aren’t any cowboys in Cambridge that will undercut him by 8 grand and leave the customer without a cert.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ben! Trust me there are plenty of cowboys around here but thats what makes us stand out from the competition!

@tezzatibbz2278 3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget he spends most of his time filming the job and chatting so he has to include the cost of his time to do that

@ninogaggi 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, really interesting. The way you are sitting, your white fluffy cat should be on your lap so you can pet it as you reveal your cunning plan, not stuffed behind you 🤣

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

😂👍

@andrewnuttall333 2 жыл бұрын

You said "would i of won the job if i Quoted with software?" But just before you admit it wasn't worth it so i would say the software quotation was bang on the mark! After 34 years of quoting for jobs there are still the ones you wish you never did!

@montystelevision3238 3 жыл бұрын

I’d pay the extra for an Artisan rewire. I’d suspect the project management, customer service and after sale warranty would be copper bottomed.

@acelectricalsecurity 3 жыл бұрын

On stuff like this you don't need to worry about a warranty as it comes under part p and you will have a 6 year warranty as standard by the scheme provider.

@Marco-mg9tv 3 жыл бұрын

Monty - utter tosh

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

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@davidwinch57 3 жыл бұрын

We are finishing tomorrow a 4 bed 2 bathroom all flush rewire in Hertfordshire. With 24 led downlights all rooms with dimmers , 2 beds had ceiling fans. Nest doorbell 5 outside lights and 1 socket and cables installed for an alarm in the future and a 4mm to the loft. 1 electrician and mate the 1st 8 days . 2 electrician and a mate the next 6 days with 1 day for the plasterer. Any ideas what the price was and what would you had charged Jordan.

@garethg2501 3 жыл бұрын

Rewire for a 2-3 bed house is roughly £3.5-4.5k all in around here :

@abcxyz820 3 жыл бұрын

Yup.. Double socket in every room corner, back to back sockets upstairs, definitely no MK fronts ~ instead Screwfix SP switched sockets and a BG Board 👍.

@garethg2501 3 жыл бұрын

@@abcxyz820 Hager boards generally, fully loaded 5x5 for approx £130. Scolmore Mode generally

@abcxyz820 3 жыл бұрын

Hager, good stuff. The best jobs are the ones where you can pull the new cables down/up the old capping 🤣.

@jonathanstephens7804 3 жыл бұрын

@@garethg2501 5/5 split? Yuk. Too old school should be rcbo boards only IMO

@elrilesy 3 жыл бұрын

Are there methods you use to quickly convince customers of your higher quality of work? Or do you think they just associate great customer service with great quality work? I guess that would be the essence of being able to win jobs with quotes that are more expensive than your competition by educating customers as to what the difference is between getting someone to do it on the cheap vs the premium option. i.e do you ever say to the customer "xyz competitor will probably quote you 5,000 quid for this but they will likely cut corners in abc aspects"?

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

I send them a list of assurances when I quote to make sure they know what they can expect from us in terms of quality and customer service. It makes us stand out.

@SultansKitchen1 3 жыл бұрын

Jordan thanks for the great insight into how to price a rewire & what sorts of overheads to consider.👍🏼 Ignore all the negativity in the comment section, some people just don't appreciate the value of your time & skill not to mention all the effort you put into building a business. A business must turn over a profit for it to survive, some people just don't get it. Thank you for being honest. To be truthful videos like these are persuading me to invest in your online course. I will very soon hopefully, but when the time is right for me. 😊✊🏼

@montystelevision3238 3 жыл бұрын

That Lamp ❤️

@tonywebb9909 3 жыл бұрын

Yes sounds fairly reasonable for the whole house package with CCU and cert. Was there heating system wiring, were smoke detectors cheap, medium or Nest? The only comment was in the pricing you were adding VAT to the materials when showing us the sums on the screen, but of course the client should only pay vat once on the final amount, you claim back the materials yourself. I am sure this is how you are doing it and I just guessed that wrongly. Keep up the good work.

@UberAlphaSirus 3 жыл бұрын

Its because when you mark up 10%, that 10% is profit on which you will pay vat on. So you add vat to it so you actual end up with 10% rather than 8%. I think that's where you where coming from.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. The customer pays VAT on the whole invoice you are correct.

@gmeadowcroft84 3 жыл бұрын

Wow lot of negativity on this lol. At the end of the day the customer was satisfied (its artisan customer satisfaction comes as standard lol) everyone got paid and you made a profit. To me that’s the main thing to take away. Great and interesting video Jordan

@Elvis_TheKing 3 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. Cambridge is a wealthy city, there are people willing to pay for the Artisan experience 😁 You won’t find Jordan cutting corners or riding roughshod over basic health and safety... you’re paying for the reassurance of a job well done!

@montystelevision3238 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder what David Savery charges for a rewire if he does them and other "KZfaq celebrity Electricians". Jordan does at least talk about his pricing. Maybe Artisan get more money because they are "KZfaq" celebrity tradesmen? A bit like you'd pay a premium for a celebrity chef.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Haha I’m the Jamie Oliver of the electrical world 🤣

@samuel2j213 3 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics And Bundy is Gordon Ramsay 🤣

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

True 😂

@shubz4699 3 жыл бұрын

for them prices does it include covering the customers electric bills for 6 months aswell?😂

@alexwilliams4673 3 жыл бұрын

For that price I’d want em to do my neighbours house and all 😂

@robertsmith9836 3 жыл бұрын

Back in the day I did three a week with green apprentice

@freddyfrog3192 2 жыл бұрын

Fair play so did we

@bobbyzilla 3 жыл бұрын

I honestly can't believe how much you charge for a rewire or even per hour for that matter. Don't know if it's just the area or you are just good at marketing? That up north would have cost 2.5k max including materials, be just as safe and as just as good workmanship. I say shop around people.

@barrybritcher 3 жыл бұрын

you can't compare up North and Cambridge lol. whats the price of a premium lager where you live? Here in Norwich it's about £5 minimum

@bigissue9179 3 жыл бұрын

a rewire is one week for a pair simple

@martinedwards4458 3 жыл бұрын

I allow 3 hours per point including making good , obviously with down lights I allow 15 minutes to connect each one & 2 hours per light wiring this seems to be spot on with every job I do allow a full day to fit & test a consumer unit 14 way maximum.. Been self employed since 1993 & still at it . I agree with you that EICR's & consumer unit changes are the money spinners, well explained Jorden take care. Martin, M.R. Edwards Electrical.

@Froggability 3 жыл бұрын

We used to do it 2 guys 1 day. 20/ month. Mind you, it not UK, no chasing masonry

@robertburrows6612 3 жыл бұрын

There is a reason why some rewires are cheap, is because nasty poorly done and don't meet the needs of the customer and are not future proof and poor quality material used and most don't meet the current regs. I charge £130 per electrical point and that's for basic white accessories, any smart home devices are extras . People pay for what I know, all my work will pass any independent inspection . Other sparks in my area will tell you my work is done by the book and I don't do short cuts

@peterpuchalski817 3 жыл бұрын

exactly my same thoughts

@eded6163 Жыл бұрын

Usually, I calculate per points then on hourly rate and take the average sort of, if I was charging your prices I would have owned a SpaceX rocket not only a Tesla :), well done to you 👍🏼

@tezzatibbz2278 3 жыл бұрын

He forgot to mention...only quote 10 thousand for a rewire when you see a big car on the driveway when you get there

@effervescence5664 3 жыл бұрын

The trouble with rewires is, occupied or unoccupied. Type of floors and walls. Covid has to be taken into account now too. Just those 3 things can add dozens of hours to a job which can add a couple thousand within days. Much of it comes down to how the lads work on site and what order you're doing it in, done right you can get 90% of first fix out the way in a couple days with only the kitchen lagging behind. Then just test/ power up in priority order, terminate at CU > Kitchen > heating > rest of house. In the end it can be thousands different and anywhere between £4000 (unoccupied and no furniture) and £14000 (occupied) is quite normal depending on the level of finish and products. This is why if you can afford to not move into a place before you buy one, don't. Get all the dirty jobs out the way first, especially something like a rewire/ new heating system, bathrooms and kitchens which will see decent ROI.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree! Great comment.

@effervescence5664 3 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics Really looking forward to the rest of the rewire video's coming out. Be nice to see how you got around and over any difficulties you might find. Currently undertaking 2 rewires (one with a new heating system going in) at the same time. One of which the tenant which has vacated the country had converted into a grow without anyone knowing. Only found out after it's empty when coming to do an EICR!

@RichardArblaster 3 жыл бұрын

Was the profit from the re-wire, gross or net? (i.e. before or after corporation tax)?

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Gross profit

@RichardArblaster 3 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics Ooof, I can see now why you're going to shy away from re-wires.

@louisperry5932 3 жыл бұрын

Like the videos. Just curious about the pricing. £640 + vat for a day rate seems quite high. Some customers don’t want to pay £200 a day! 3 bedroom house with a basic spec, should be around £4-6k all in around London. Just seems pretty high.

@zenaasura1769 Жыл бұрын

To be honest these customers are the ones having a re rewire after buy cheap buy twice is really true in the electrical world.

@tangoengineering 3 жыл бұрын

Cant believe you had to hire that equipment to me that's more important than smoking around in a Tesla

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t have much storage space so can’t afford to have loads of tools laying around that I rarely ever use. Having said that, I did just take deliver of a wall chaser and vacuum! 👍

@davidelmer2502 3 жыл бұрын

Looking back at the original EICR I think the client got a good deal on that property in the first place so he must be a bit savvy. Based on that he would have got more than 1 quote for the rewire with all that asbestos and green poison everywhere. I think Jordan has got his pricing spot on.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@supersparks9466 Жыл бұрын

Fit 35mm back boxes as standard, 25mm boxes are for days gone by.

@rickybeans8504 3 жыл бұрын

It was all going well..... Then you said get it done it a week.... Ouch.....

@joepostle3561 3 жыл бұрын

To be honest if I came back to the industry I would only interested in EICRs and general maintenance work. I agree that full rewires are generally best left to those who specialise and would pass over jobs in entirety (not subcontract). On a personal level, all domestic work makes me cringe and fills me full of dread! Is a good point about tools when it comes to when specialising with specific types of work / jobs. It is also the same with working practices, those who do solar panels all-day, everyday can obviously install them faster and better than those who do occasionally, same with EICRs and ev chargers etc.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comments! So true

@freddyfrog3192 2 жыл бұрын

Load of crap thats your job house bashing thats why you became and a sparky like a plumber saying I don't fit toilets....

@spinaway 3 жыл бұрын

I am waiting for a home charger to be installed, i was told by BP pulse that i need a 100 amp isolation switch, i contacted my supplier, and they are charging me £200 , according to bp pulse i'm paying around 3 times too much. That must be why everyone is wearing a mask these days.

@spinaway 3 жыл бұрын

Just to update, I complained to my supplier, and they refunded me £60, if you don't ask you don't get.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting thanks for sharing

@TheUkjedi Жыл бұрын

Price per point for plastic sockets etc consumer unit rcbo a grand .. so many costs niceic . Testing . Van etc .underprice and the job will suffer.

@RJSElectricalCheshire 3 жыл бұрын

Too many keyboard warriors commenting on here. You charge what you think you're worth. Customer has the option to say no and find a cheaper quote. You can buy a Bentley or a Skoda. Both will get you from A to B but the Bentley is better. By the way, I price my rewires as time and materials plus 20%.

@petertallowin6406 3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the Bentley, my Fabia is super reliable..... :)

@mathman0101 3 жыл бұрын

So here is my take on this and I am looking at the consumer perspective as well. If you are providing a premium service then the cost is not premium. The point is how do you make your work stand-out and how do you go the extra mile to prove the premium quality of your work. Certainly the KZfaq channel helps and so does Instagram. However if you can provide the customer a document/handbook detailing the kind of quality you undertake with regard to wiring routes, splicing, terminations and quality of materials used and preserving existing structures such that routes are very clean then providing that information in a document with photos of all of this information would strengthen the confidence that you are providing a premium service and not just boshing a rewire in double quick-time. Transparency is really important for customers and give confidence that customers are paying for a quality service and are getting them. More than that if you are not doing too many rewires then you should not push to speed things up if you compromise on quality. As you say you can overestimate your own capacities but building in buffers in cost and time is really key.

@paul65ad 3 жыл бұрын

£110 per point + materials + sundries. 3 bed by way of loft conversion circa 9k - 9.5K. (20 man days allowing working round other trades) Not worth doing for less

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Nice thanks for sharing!

@andytap560 3 жыл бұрын

Im £65 per point or per hour(no vat) and im based in surrey so i reckon im too cheap.

@manumichael7870 2 жыл бұрын

Any Electrician vacancy available??

@andilenkwanyana17 2 жыл бұрын

where are you from?

@ITIRICI 2 жыл бұрын

I average 61% margin on my jobs. No idea how everything is so low for you over there. Even at that margin we are still middle tier in pricing but get much more business as we are the oldest company in the a 100 mile radius. I have a way that would help you I'm sure. While they may not seem like they are profitable, they are when you understand them better. Let me know and we could convert my method for you to see if it yields better results.

@Lewis_Standing 3 жыл бұрын

Just got my 5 bed 3 storey house rewired for £1000.... By two sparkies in a day. In fact they finished at 330.

@caparn100 3 жыл бұрын

I'm just wondering if you charge your electricians out at £80 an hour, how much do you pay them an hour?

@edglue6138 3 жыл бұрын

15 I bet. Max 20

@edglue6138 3 жыл бұрын

Bottom line, I'd never use this robbing kant

@adrianthorpe8005 3 жыл бұрын

@@edglue6138 in there area 150 pd

@edglue6138 3 жыл бұрын

@@adrianthorpe8005 full of smack heads isn't it?

@claudiub3679 3 жыл бұрын

If you have no experience running a business you may want to know the answer. There are so many expenses beside the wages of the guys...travel between jobs, vans, insurances..and the list goes on and on.. If he is paying his guys £20/hour, he is not making anywhere near £60/hour from their side only.

@GripElectric 3 жыл бұрын

We do by per point which is £150 plus VAT

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@amadogomez436 Жыл бұрын

What is a pont?

@kevin11007 3 жыл бұрын

3 paddys give quotes to building contractor for rewire, paddy english man 3 grand, paddy scots man 6 grand ,paddy irish man 9 grand, when asked for a breakdown paddy english 1500 labour 1500 materials, scotsman 3000 labour 3000 material, paddy irish man tells builder 3 grand for you 3 grand for me and we sub it to paddy the english man.

@artisanelectrics 3 жыл бұрын

Haha love it