How To Record Drums - With 1 Mic

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In this Microlecture, Jason de Wilde shows us how to record an entire drum kit with just a single microphone. The mike technique is called the Tchad Blake method, and using a single cardoid microphone (in this case a Rode K2), Jason is able to record a kit that well-balanced and professional sounding. This video is best heard with headphones on.
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@NoR0adsLeft 9 жыл бұрын

that drummer looks like he's having fun

@Cubesquareprism 9 жыл бұрын

NoR0adsLeft

@MKRocker2012 9 жыл бұрын

Cubesquareprism Tell that to Mario Duplantier

@losingitrush 9 жыл бұрын

+MKRocker94 and portnoy. :P

@jeffreymiddelveld4421 9 жыл бұрын

I recently recorded my drumset also with 1 mic (sE2200a II) , and placed it above the back of my head, pointing towards the snare. I recorded with cardioid mode, -10dB pad turned on and without bass rolloff. The result was actually that it almost sounded like the kit was mixed with 12 channels.

@denniscrommett 5 жыл бұрын

That's really helpful! I'd like to try that, and was going to ask about the pad and rolloff. How high in the air was it, just above the back of your head? And just tilted down to the snare?

@cristiansapienza7661 4 жыл бұрын

you're right, it sounds excellent! thanks!

@m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n 2 жыл бұрын

no phase issues and also i dont like the sound of everything close micd unless its for a super specific reason

@boringuserhandle 8 жыл бұрын

I've just had a go at this. My drums are set up in the garage, so very poor acoustically. I'm using some sort of Bheringer condenser. I am very pleased with the results. I have a much larger kit than the one in the video but I've managed to get a pretty good balance with minimal messing around. I wouldn't use it for a release, but to record ideas and work on stuff to share with the band, it's going to be perfect. Very helpful video!

@TheRedheadMusic 11 жыл бұрын

Just tried this on my acoustic set, sounds so much better than recordings I was getting before! Thanks for putting this out!

@Sjoegreen93 10 жыл бұрын

Nice! I just paid a condenser mic after listening to this recording. Great way to start recording! Thanks a lot for uploading the video!

@myk0l4s 10 жыл бұрын

Awsome! Saw this video and tryed it on my drum kit. Quality surprised me even though I was using simple Shure vocal mic. Thanks for vid :)

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

Hi, yes you would be able to do that with pretty much any mic, but the results will sound different due to the fact that its a different mic. But well worth giving it a try. Hope you enjoyed the video. I've also got my own channel now, with more recording and mixing tips.

@bob4analog 11 жыл бұрын

I've been using couple of variants of this method with excellent results. Works just like described in this vid. The other one similar to this is the 'crotch mic' method. With a little compression and EQ processing, it can be seasoned to one's own taste. Put it up in the mix, and it'll sound excellent.

@cupolove1 12 жыл бұрын

wow definitely usable quality. gonna try this! thanks!

@scootergreen3 12 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the help and nice comments!!

@johnashley5746 11 жыл бұрын

Simple. technical and brilliant!

@miyapar 7 жыл бұрын

Great! It's a huge help!

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

Nice one. Just go for it. It's really meant as a great technique that's quick, easy to set up and give you a reasonable drum sound. Glad you like it. good luck with the drumming! Jase

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

That would be great to hear, and I'm really glad you were able to use this technique. Please let me know when it's all mixed. Would love to hear how those drums sound. Cheers. Jase

@MrSkunkey 11 жыл бұрын

oh, thank you SO MUCH!!! I used this technique with cheap mic and only usb external audio interface and it works really well! I think thats better than 2 mics.

@jasondewilde 11 жыл бұрын

Hi Jimmi. Thanks for the feedback. Will get working on a compression video for the near future. Cheers. Jase

@thedudeondrumsuk 11 жыл бұрын

Been scouring the web for helpful videos for days before I stumbled across this one. Very helpful indeed :-)

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

Hi. Glad you liked it. I've finally got my own channel which I'm starting to upload to. All sorts of stuff on recording, mixing etc etc. Cheers. Jason de Wilde

@draksid13 10 жыл бұрын

I just tried this and it sounds pretty clear/even. I had to put the mic about 30 cm above the toms because of who my stand was. Pointed it at the snare drum sounds great.

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

The one I am using the video is a Rode K2 mic. It's a valve mic with it's own power supply. I love it! Jase.

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. I guess the whole point of this exercise is that it is possible to get a reasonable drum sound from a single mic - great for those that have limited tracks, limited inputs (you could do this on an Mbox mini) and importantly little to no EQ. As soon as you add more than 1 mic, you'll also get phase issues, for example between your overheads and snare. With this single mic method, no phase problems. It's also great for jazz recordings. Cheers. Jason de Wilde.

@mitchinatr7093 4 жыл бұрын

I’ll have to try this once I get my hands on an AT2020

@ryancangri 12 жыл бұрын

I use this technique at my church, and my sound guy loves it. It's makes life much easier.

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Glad you like it. Jase

@squarejawpublishing 13 жыл бұрын

Very informative. great sound too.

@hifijohn 2 жыл бұрын

one mic for the kick and a stereo pair above the kit for everything else, been doing for year s and have never had a complaint.

@ishaanambavane4490 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. This helped a lot +aimtvsydney

@DadDoesDrums 10 жыл бұрын

That's great. Especially for us who don't really record, understanding how the cardoid mic really "receives sound" is critical.

@jasondewilde 9 жыл бұрын

Thanks Barry. Appreciate your comments.

@user-dj6mj5ck6s 11 жыл бұрын

yeah i've done this before and it generally works for recording (not quite as well for live playing/extended playing cause the balance of the head will be thrown off). also, i read in a drum magazine a few years ago that an engineer gave this same tip to the drummer for rage against the machine.

@kengibson4054 7 жыл бұрын

my method was going to be to put it in front of the kick striking head at the top pointing up at the snare and cymbals thus gaining some thwack element from the beater contact. It's close enough to the mounted toms to pick them up too - but as far as the floor tom goes - just hit it hard!

@rahkeemthegreat360 6 жыл бұрын

great video

@francismcfadden3305 2 жыл бұрын

Wow I'm super surprised at the sound you got with that. Nice

@davidclough768 2 жыл бұрын

Jason I am going to try this method live this coming weekend. Do you feel I will need a kick drum mic as well? I have an akg d112 for kick and p420 condenser mic

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

Hi, glad you gave this a try, and I understand what you are saying about the cymbals. What you could try is a little bit of EQ boost at around 12KHz and above. I find that it adds a little bit more "air" in the overall sound. Also, I've (finally) got my own channel now which you may want to check out for more info on recording etc, Cheers. Jason

@Willy160808 9 жыл бұрын

thanks dude.

@mjmaf1238 8 жыл бұрын

It appears this is done with one really good mic.

@CTYPCL 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot man!! I have to try it out, but that realy made me change my mind about buying an electronic drumkit just for recording..

@jasondewilde 9 жыл бұрын

That's cool! I might have saved you some space and $$$. Cheers. Jase

@totigerus 8 жыл бұрын

That's cool that you got Jason Hervey from The Wonder Years to play drums for you.

@2010perc 11 жыл бұрын

Thats cool gonna try that....

@derrickmartin9717 9 жыл бұрын

Would setting up a figure 8 mic with the null pointed at the kit 5-10 feet back cause phase problems? I'd like to copy the track, pan and get a good stereo image with 2 inputs.

@sovereignviper 6 жыл бұрын

thanks so much

@TheOompahRoundabout 8 жыл бұрын

Great sound

@Mic1904 12 жыл бұрын

Only if done skillfully, and only if the style allows it. There have been incredible recordings made throughout history that have used barely any mics, and no doubt a whole host of terrible, amateur recordings that have used loads of improperly placed mics. It's all in the quality of the drums, the quality of the drummer, and engineer's abilities!

@rij2392 9 жыл бұрын

Where do i place the mic on a 6 piece kit ? Is it a different mic position for different sizes of kits ?

@janjirousekband 11 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!

@Deltadawg660 8 жыл бұрын

holy crap - this sounds great for only one dang mic.

@ryanbeitz1 10 жыл бұрын

The mid tom is missing a tension rod next to the tom mount. Interesting technique!

@Celtica111 9 жыл бұрын

Good idea for live performances 1mic and no fuss! Wouldnt this cause feedback problems in a live setting though?

@CaptainPantys 11 жыл бұрын

This was cool

@mixmessiah 12 жыл бұрын

Just a quick note - at lower frequencies (such as the kick drum), most cardiod mics behave like omnidirectional mics (due to the principles of diffraction). And then there's the proximity effect to consider. Impressive.

@guitarlordification 11 жыл бұрын

very good video, I did great with the mic setup and everything but I'm having trouble getting my head around how to use compression effectively, any videos you could link me to or tips would be awesome. Thanks mate :)

@myartismurder94 11 жыл бұрын

actualy it sound pretty good :) when u got a good drumkit u got good sound, if u got a midi output, u get perfect sound with the right programms.

@anemaldemomusic8182 3 жыл бұрын

Nice! All I need is a drum kit...

@sixstringzzz 11 жыл бұрын

Hey Jason... Great engineer I remember you from Dubai!

@DavinaFaerie 13 жыл бұрын

Jason De Wilde is an amazing teacher, I really hope I have him when I move on to my Bachelor Degree... :0) He's great... :0)

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

hi there. Yes, sometimes I get the same problem. so much of it relies in the drummers preference where everything is positioned too. But with some careful EQ, you can usually get some way to fixing up these problems. Thanks for your comment. Cheers. Jase

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

Hi there, sorry for the late reply. Yep, the mic I'm using on that video is a Rode K2. I've used that mic on so many things. I love it.

@Chessdrummer83 12 жыл бұрын

well thank you very much. aussies, gotta love em'

@fuzzfoot 11 жыл бұрын

Dynamic mics help minimize the impact of crappy (untreated/small) rooms, which makes them a favorite choice in my mind!

@tedmathewnuguid7068 9 жыл бұрын

can i do this with a producer USB mic and just record it through audacity?

@fuzzfoot 11 жыл бұрын

Menomena did this with an SM57 to make their most popular recording. I plan on using a Heil PR20 in this method soon hopefully. I try to specialize in Punk Rock and Hip Hop, both of which this technique seems more than appropriate for!

@musical7777 12 жыл бұрын

thanks.. ..thank you

@Svensbyemil 11 жыл бұрын

Noise gating, EQing, as well as microphones that do a good job at isolating other stuff (for example the Shure SM57 or the Sennheiser 421)

@boudou701 11 жыл бұрын

if you have an extra mic (dynamic) would you put it to mic the snare or the kick? will try this technique this wkd - thx!

@jasondewilde 11 жыл бұрын

Hi there. Yep, would think this same technique could be applied using any range of mics. I like the Rode K2 though. Always been a fave of mine for so many applications. Thanks for your comments. Jase

@TheHustle1 12 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks dude :D

@ChrisStauderMusic 10 жыл бұрын

can i use it on a live gig aswell?

@nachocoreable 11 жыл бұрын

hi. if you record a band live in a studio, do you get much leakeage from guitar and bass with this technique? thanks

@chrisknight3734 5 жыл бұрын

I used to record drums using a single Radio Shack omni dynamic mic placed atop the kick drum and pointed at the drummer, with a bit of mellow reverb. I later discovered that the mic was a RE50 clone

@cupolove1 12 жыл бұрын

do you recommend being generous with the compression when using this technique?

@Defensive_Wounds 12 жыл бұрын

Is there a way of placing a condenser mic to record the drums that exact method shown in this video but without having to remove the tom to place the mic in that location? I would like to record but hate having the second tom removed to fit in the location as seen in this video. Some songs I need the tom that is in that location but also need the mic there... Perhaps there is another way to do it with one mic so that I can keep the other tom in that spot on the right of the kick?

@apexpower22 11 жыл бұрын

is there a way to eq this if you record this with one mic to make it sound a bit better?

@valoricintake 12 жыл бұрын

Thank you sooo much for this video, it really helped. This will be perfect for me and my friend's d'n'b songs. (im the drummer)

@NachoLoizaga 10 жыл бұрын

Great video! what's the name/brand of that mic? and are there similar brands/modeles that can be used instead? thanks again!

@ArthurDentProject 11 жыл бұрын

Great video, very good stuff. What would be a good (and hopefully cheaper :P ) alternative to the Rode? Thanks :)

@atrumluminarium 10 жыл бұрын

How would you process this in a DAW?

@tenajswann242 10 жыл бұрын

does anyone know if it will work with a cad u37 usb studio condenser mic?

@biadrum 11 жыл бұрын

awesome

@alanross999 10 жыл бұрын

I tried using a dynamic mic and it didn't seem to work that great. What does the condenser mic do to make it work?

@HuffyDrums 12 жыл бұрын

is there a way i could set it up to use two mics? for example one for cymbals one for drums?

@MrDellshadow 11 жыл бұрын

in general does this method work with a cheap mixer?

@motard117 12 жыл бұрын

Could I get close to the same results using a large diaphragm dynamic such as the AKG D112?

@brianjarvis794 7 жыл бұрын

The old jazz producers would just use the equivalent of a SM57 or sometimes a "tube" mic over the head of the drummer pointed down the snare/ Low tom.

@tetothedrummer 12 жыл бұрын

i have a quick question if i have to high tom how could i place the mic the same way or should i take the tom off and leave it like a jazz drum kit plzzz write back!!

@TheHustle1 12 жыл бұрын

I have one question. I am trying to get the best sound out of the drums for my band, and I don't have a condenser yet. Will a Vocal Mic work too (Electro-Voice N/D967)? Thanks.

@siapane12 11 жыл бұрын

did you EQ and compresed in this track?

@TheDestinationSound 12 жыл бұрын

does it sound good before you EQ and compress it?

@TheProgGuy 12 жыл бұрын

I'm new to recording. I want to get a reasonably priced mixer (at least 4 channels) and I want to do just one microphone to start with. I have been looking for an overhead microphone because I just want a better sound than a regular camera microphone. Is this a good idea and what would you recommend me to do and buy?

@sethmclain 11 жыл бұрын

I always do this, regardless of what other mics I use, but usually with a funky dynamic mic. I love Tchad Blake, but I've never heard of this called the Tchad Blake method. I just call it the kit mic. Compress the shit out of it or run it though a sans amp.

@SergeantBalthazar 11 жыл бұрын

What's the mic stand he's using?

@JahJahBruh 11 жыл бұрын

I knew it was true! I would love to have such a great soudn with just one mic ha.

@pinoykicks 11 жыл бұрын

Quick question, did u used an interfaced for the condenser? Cause I'm also planning to get a MXL 770 and just use one for the whole kit

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

Hi there, this is Jason de Wilde here. The small problem with using a D112 is that it's a dynamic mic, and that means it will most likely miss out on some of the "air" or high frequency sounds. You'd notice this in the cymbals particularly, and it would just lack something. Certainly, if you have nothing else, it would be worth giving it go. It certainly would produce a hefty kick and snare. Cheers. Jase

@breakfastsex 11 жыл бұрын

can we use omni directional instead of cardioid at the same position?

@londunhill 12 жыл бұрын

Would slightly turning the mic away from the snare make the snare less loud?

@astiachi 11 жыл бұрын

can you help me on how to set the panels and how much room i need?

@jasondewilde 11 жыл бұрын

Hi there sixstrinzzz. Fond memories of Dubai! Hope all is well. Jase

@neon_one 10 жыл бұрын

Hm I never would have thought to try this. Glad I thought to search after years of just winging it

@krazYFaic 9 жыл бұрын

What if you have two rack toms? Where does the mic go? Do I put it under the second rack tom or over the floor tom (like the glyn johns but with only one mic) or do I put it somewhere else?

@jasondewilde 9 жыл бұрын

I've tried it with 2 rack toms as well. I kept it in the same place as the video above, and it was still pretty well balanced. You could try moving it back a little bit in order to pick up more of the rack and floor, but you should listen for any lost definition of the kick/snare. Make sense? Cheers from Jase

@jasondewilde 12 жыл бұрын

I did not use any compression on that video, but it's certainly possible to use. I did try it on a recording I did later, and it gave the drums a pretty cool trashy sound which was OK for the context. I'm generally not a huge fan of compressed drums. If I do compress them, I'll parrallel compress them so that there is a mixture of uncompressed and compressed.