How to redesign a SpaceX STARLINK satellite dish for mobile use on a boat! [MV FREEDOM]

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@jerryfrost4344
@jerryfrost4344 2 жыл бұрын
Starlink needs to hire you as a maritime consultant Shawn - awesome - actually it’s incredible - 👍
@richardsmith4187
@richardsmith4187 2 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth & Shawn Another interesting project for sure ! Shawn is always very methodical in his approach to any and all projects on board MV Freedom. I have always been amazed that no matter the project, he determines how he wants to do the project and then gets it done in fine style !! Bravo Shawn as you have endured all things such as cold, heat and snow to complete your projects and Elizabeth is always there assisting with a smile on her face. Can't wait to see the install of Starlink in the upcoming video. Enjoy your weekend and be safe !
@peterwaugh9416
@peterwaugh9416 2 жыл бұрын
First comment, woohoo. Staying up late in Australia to watch the Spanish F1 race but getting an MV Freedom video is a nice bonus
@ChifundoBanda
@ChifundoBanda 2 жыл бұрын
Move to South Africa, here the GPs start at 3pm! Great episode, thus man is extremely handy.
@BuckTravis
@BuckTravis 2 жыл бұрын
In a past life I was a TV repairman, telephone exchange techie, electronic cryptographic systems repairman, electronics tech working on spy satellites, field tech for early modems, a field tech for Tektronix, and a creative for Apple. Oh and I own and operate a 65’ Fleming on the east coast from the Bahamas to Canada. That said you are a tech God. Tearing the Starlink apart, testing, engineering a new waterproof mount, replacing the KVH antenna and getting this all to work puts you in a class with Wil Proust the KZfaq God of electrical power. Kudos. You are truly a gift to one another. You are one of the few that I would trust with my life at sea. I have a Starlink on Joy our Fleming65. Currently mounted to our aft rail when we are at anchor. Works great. I can foresee replacing the KVH domes and ditching DirecTV altogether. We now get weather, news and entertainment just like being at home. All of our gear is connected. Russound for video and music, AppleTVs, iPads and iPhones, Furuno chartplotters all on line. Placing an order for a second Starlink for our home in Utah. Thanks for the video.
@timkohn
@timkohn 2 жыл бұрын
Super exciting to read that folks are using these successfully on their boats. How long does it take to establish a high-bandwidth connection once you're on anchor? I assume it doesn't work reliably underway, but would love to assume wrong.
@BuckTravis
@BuckTravis 2 жыл бұрын
We do not deploy when underway. Setup and reconnect once anchored or at a marina is fast and easy. It takes a few minutes to scan and lock but once in sync it works fine. I use Maps to find an address nearby. Any address works.
@tomcraddock244
@tomcraddock244 2 жыл бұрын
Great modification !! Look good and we’ll done!! Fair winds ⛵️
@fekkim1
@fekkim1 2 жыл бұрын
Starlink is a game changer for remote areas. We get 210M in the middle of nowhere Texas. How do you think I'm watching this episode? Lol
@brykalaero
@brykalaero 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love this. Thinking outside the square. Just so good to see someone work it out, design and build a solution. Well done sir!!
@jerryhammernik7730
@jerryhammernik7730 2 жыл бұрын
That took a fair amount of guts to cut that open. Well done! As always, thanks for taking us along on the journey.
@bsb11kat25
@bsb11kat25 2 жыл бұрын
Shawn's plane flight was awesome!....looked like it was going backwards lol
@jonwumkes
@jonwumkes 2 жыл бұрын
Class A job! My favorite boat channel ever!
@ericdelevinquiere9902
@ericdelevinquiere9902 2 жыл бұрын
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as an engineer, I definitely would not permanently mount this antenna. The ability to remove it while traveling and when the boat is unoccupied seems like a plus and avoids exposure to elements and thieves.
@seth2908
@seth2908 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Yes, part two, please.
@deonm641120
@deonm641120 2 жыл бұрын
Great job. Very impressive conversion. Cant wait to get your test results.
@jbond7
@jbond7 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how this is any uglier than the rest of the stuff on top of the pilothouse.
@Big.Ron1
@Big.Ron1 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet! You have been addressing my wants and needs these last couple of weeks. If it works for you the it will be installed on my soon to be new to me boat. Cool. Thank you. Be safe.
@gregnunn1132
@gregnunn1132 Жыл бұрын
So awesome to see the Captain Shawn in his professional environment!!!
@davidallen9526
@davidallen9526 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Part two please. Im confident that you did your homework and all worked as planned. But, lets wait and see.
@2011maxie
@2011maxie 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing ingenuity!
@deanrussell6763
@deanrussell6763 2 жыл бұрын
Another good one Shawn. I do enjoy the technical shows as much or more than the pure scenic episodes, all are great though, have not missed one.
@ltcguffy765
@ltcguffy765 2 жыл бұрын
My new favorite channel!!!
@scottm4977
@scottm4977 2 жыл бұрын
its a gamechanger !! We put one on our boat using the roam feature they just launched. we bought a pole mount for the antenna that made it look better. we now can work and surf from anywhere. we love ours !
@mvcarolina3924
@mvcarolina3924 2 жыл бұрын
How well does it wok at anchor when the boat is moving around and rolling
@alrestauro
@alrestauro Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work on the modification. A PA Starlink appreciates it.
@WMCC240654
@WMCC240654 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode this week. 👍
@rukusbukus
@rukusbukus 2 жыл бұрын
i had no idea that you knew your way around a milling machine
@carsonc1272
@carsonc1272 2 жыл бұрын
Lol... If aesthetics are so important you would think that all of the other equipment up there would be held to the same standards. Not to mention that the boat has more of a tug boat vibe than a super yacht. But it's interesting to see the results of this experiment. 👍🏻
@FunFlyingPilot
@FunFlyingPilot 2 жыл бұрын
Carson ; I guess that you are not aware of the functionality and attractive features of a “Trawler”
@carsonc1272
@carsonc1272 2 жыл бұрын
@@FunFlyingPilot Attractive trawler? 🤔 That's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one.
@FunFlyingPilot
@FunFlyingPilot 2 жыл бұрын
@@carsonc1272 You really should read more carefully. I said attractive features of a Trawler. I have owned five large boats in my 78 years; all semi-working boats and a trawler is at the top of the list
@walterhunter4011
@walterhunter4011 Жыл бұрын
I like the video a lot ! I am a elect / mech engineer and this is good work. Thanks for sharing.
@ronhatcher7734
@ronhatcher7734 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent adaptation...very cool well done!
@m1k3droid
@m1k3droid 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about how much bandwidth is lost by the lack of tipping ability, and whether rocking and heeling from waves causes the antenna issues.
@Regal2800
@Regal2800 2 жыл бұрын
id also be curious how much bandwidth is lost at different locations. The original rotating mechanism wasn't designed for moving vehicles, so it most likely wouldn't have lasted long anyway on a boat.
@kirkhuddleston9387
@kirkhuddleston9387 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s go summer!
@dhincks1
@dhincks1 2 жыл бұрын
On your starlink account page click outside your service area it's an extra $25 a month. Works great on our boat in SF Bay area
@j-maxfromor1895
@j-maxfromor1895 2 жыл бұрын
Did starlink technical support provide any advice? I was surprised that your test of horizontal mounting worked, thinking that if so why do they even have an aiming motor. So I’m going to be wondering all week to see your next show to see if this works. PS: Thank you for three “technical” shows in a row. Music and video very well done.
@wizardgmb
@wizardgmb 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same concern about eliminating the steering mechanism. It may work horizontally in his two test cases but that may assume there is a functioning Starlink constellation directly above the antenna. Given it may be a couple of years before Starlink stitches together total coverage of North America, there will probably be a regular need to access a distant constellation closer to the horizon. That may very well be the downfall of Shawn's modification. Also, Starlink has acknowledged the equipment's inability to stay linked up when used in a moving vehicle. It's highly likely an implented solution to that problem will involve the steering motors and improvements in the steering circuitry and firmware. Meeting an acceptable short term goal of clean visual lines may very well come back to bite them in the long run...
@roydenvickers6382
@roydenvickers6382 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet job.
@lect0rium
@lect0rium 2 жыл бұрын
Heya so happy you are now having stable and reliable internet connection!
@Anmeteor9663
@Anmeteor9663 2 жыл бұрын
How can you be bothered about cosmetics when your roof is covered in antennas? Some folk are never happy
@DennisMathias
@DennisMathias 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a first world problem to me. I always prided myself on having a well managed antenna farm.
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this part didn't make sense to me. _THAT_ was ugly, but the other stuff up there isn't?
@tbranch227
@tbranch227 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos for cutting in Four Christmases lol - that is a must watch for me over the holidays!
@toyhaulen
@toyhaulen Жыл бұрын
Nice to be a Machinist! I do lots of brackets and such for my toy hauler. Great job! We sure enjoy your videos!
@WaterTrails
@WaterTrails 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome ! Paving the way for a boat version of starlink !
@jeff1616o
@jeff1616o 2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing idea, really hope it works.
@markrushton4631
@markrushton4631 2 жыл бұрын
Must have nerves of steel, great job.
@James-seafan
@James-seafan 2 жыл бұрын
interesting video thank you Shawn and Elizabeth
@maddogmorgan1
@maddogmorgan1 2 жыл бұрын
I was in the middle of thinking about this myself! Ha great minds!
@famman8729
@famman8729 2 жыл бұрын
Very good stuff!!!!!!
@davidzimmer2694
@davidzimmer2694 2 жыл бұрын
Well....007 is also MacGyver too. LOL. Shawn's skills never cease to amaze me. Congrats on a Pro Install. I'll be interested to see how it works in a cove with hills or mountains on three sides. I know for a fact that the Starlink does not like trees. Nice work Captain.
@jimkress5929
@jimkress5929 2 жыл бұрын
nice job waiting for part 2
@ThoughtfulWander
@ThoughtfulWander 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Pretty interesting! Stay safe Freedom crew! 👍👍
@onecreative1
@onecreative1 Жыл бұрын
Awsome video guys!
@mikemoxley9477
@mikemoxley9477 2 жыл бұрын
Great work
@TonyK3130
@TonyK3130 2 жыл бұрын
Considering all of the equipment on the boat's overhead, the Starling looks slick: shower, thinner, smaller, ...
@eugeniusro
@eugeniusro 2 жыл бұрын
If Elon Musk sees this video, he's going to fire half of the design department for producing an antenna with unnecessary costly elements. The new design proposed by Shawn reduces the production cost of the antenna by at least 30%.
@TheSirUno
@TheSirUno 2 жыл бұрын
Jeebus! Those are better DL/UL speeds than I’ve EVER had at either of my homes on CA and OR! I’m hella jealous. 🤪
@stevenbennett3922
@stevenbennett3922 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@neelyrichard72
@neelyrichard72 2 жыл бұрын
Great job as always. Ty for sharing:)
@garrym09
@garrym09 2 жыл бұрын
Another Awesome video, true engineering genius. at least if it works it will. Not sure how it will like not being about to move it's motors.
@pickfess
@pickfess Жыл бұрын
Very nice work!
@robertdowdall1068
@robertdowdall1068 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@PCNProperties
@PCNProperties 2 жыл бұрын
This is super dope! Waiting for part 2. I am in the process of purchasing a Nordic Tug 44’ and was going to try to devise a dome solution for Dishy. It will be interesting to see how well the top of Dishy will hold up to the UV rays mixed with ocean conditions.
@x--.
@x--. 2 жыл бұрын
This is my big question. I'd have my doubts that it was engineered for marine environments and between salt and the sun, how will it fare? I would have zero faith that it would make it a year. It's not that SpaceX can't engineer for such an environment, they surely can but why spend the time and money? Then again, maybe I get surprised! :D
@ricknicholson5894
@ricknicholson5894 2 жыл бұрын
I am curious as to how well it will work in Desolation Sound and inlets along coastal BC. I'm not sure if my memory is working but I seem to recall you were going to do a North to Alaska type trip before you sailed away to warmer climes in your future. StarLink should get a good work out there.
@TedKidd
@TedKidd 2 жыл бұрын
NEAT! 14:00 for watching multiple times
@winky32174
@winky32174 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that Starlink doesn't offer a marine solution already.
@chadbrossman5208
@chadbrossman5208 2 жыл бұрын
The key here is your location. The first gen Starlink Sats that were launched must communicate directly with a land relay station (due to their LEO orbit they have a limited range). The newest sats that are being launched can relay between themselves to reach the closest land relay. This means that this should work as long as you are within range of the relay (say along the coast). If you go out say crossing the pacific this wont work (yet). The good news is that most of the Bahamas and Caribbean should be covered by end of 2023.
@BadenBadenSwitzerBaden
@BadenBadenSwitzerBaden 2 жыл бұрын
The title brought here. "We're going to fabricate a new mount' got my undecided attention. Then the 3 axis milling machine showed up - Subscribed! That algorithm might know me too well.
@leslieq958
@leslieq958 2 жыл бұрын
10:22 Love the milling part where the safety squint sign is over Sean's shoulder the whole time. Intentional I am sure.
@mvfreedom
@mvfreedom 2 жыл бұрын
He’s terrible with safety 😡
@wonderboy6511
@wonderboy6511 7 ай бұрын
Pro tip - Starlink is designed for a min elevation angle of 25 degrees. By defeating the phased array’s gimbal mechanism, you’re limiting your field of view to satellites passing 25 to 155 degrees overhead. The impact is that your terminal will see fewer satellites (reducing connection opportunities) and reduce the average duration of your connection.
@rolek571
@rolek571 2 жыл бұрын
waiting for part II... looks good so far. one of the operation screens displays the dynamic RSSI number... it'd be interesting to see the rssi with/without the dome on top the antenna as a comparison. i know you're not planning on using it but there are some looking in that direction for their existing domes. tks.
@d-rot
@d-rot 2 жыл бұрын
It's ugly? The FLIR, the radar and every other antenna is ugly. O-f'ing-well IMO. Doesn't look out of place even on it's original pole.
@sensor6101
@sensor6101 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@PeteHuntley
@PeteHuntley 2 жыл бұрын
Aarrgghhhh. now I have to wait for part two dammit. Smashing vid thank you.
@alg54
@alg54 2 жыл бұрын
If Elon were smart, he'd get his team designing a marine purpose satellite dish. Of course, Shawn should get a portion of the sales profits :)
@scottgeck9948
@scottgeck9948 2 жыл бұрын
Ugly in this case is definitely in the eye of the beholder. To me that area of the boat is for communication and sensor antenna’s and the Starlink is smaller than the big simrad antenna that rotates when in use. But everyone is different only an issue if Starlink enforces its terms of use policy and shuts you off based on unauthorized modifications to the dish. I haven’t heard of them doing this though
@joepond9587
@joepond9587 2 жыл бұрын
Nice project. Surprised that Starlink didn't already have a solution
@kondybas
@kondybas 2 жыл бұрын
Marinized terminals are postponed until satellite laser interlink will be launched massively.
@brownnoise357
@brownnoise357 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Work Shawn, really well done ! 👍 Starlink does make a lot of sense, and I was planning to go that route when I got a motor yacht (thinking managing another Sailboat due to disability was now out of the question), but now I've found a Sailboat I can easily ma age single handed, plus can get it with twin keels, so it an dry out safely - this ability can massively reduce the costs for de sliming the bottom, changing Anodes, checking the bow thruster properly, plus keeping a close eye on the protective finish on the Volvo Saildrive, enabling rapid and easy touch up if necessary. It's a Deck Saloon, so a bit like a Trawler inside, but much better hand holds etc, for safe moving around inside.My disability is a bit like having a wooden leg, without the firm support of a wooden leg. Arrr Jim Lad Lol. A worry though, being a Sailboat, is if a suitable dish becomes available, will the extra electric load ended, be manageable. Solar and Wind should produce useful amounts, but the Space for a House Battery Bank appears limited, so I'm following your Lithium Battery Bank experience going forward with great interest. tbh, I don't like Lithium, apart from the difficulty with recycling them, there are potential issues from rapid charging, plus phone ones, at the end of their service life pretty much dissolve into a destructive liquid that takes out the circuitry inside the phone or tablet, such that batteries should be changed between 4 and 5 years old Maximum, if they have beenbtreated right, with no fast charging - it's actually why Apple put such h low amperage Chargers with their phones, to maximise their service lives (Samsung fast chargers are similarly low power) . Thankfully Lithium Battery Technology is improving, so fingers crossed, but as I plan on traveling to far away exotic places with my boat, I'm hoping to get away with enough Carbon AGM batteries, so that if I get a failure in the middle of nowhere, getting AGM replacements should be available to tide me over, and be an easy, though heavy drop in. There are many benefits that come with having a Nordhavn, and having enough electrical power, and the space for decent sized Battery Banks, are among them. Happy Wakes to you both, and fuss to both dogs. Keep up the great work, and Best Wishes. Bob. Maybe see you out there somewhere in a couple of years. 👍🙂
@DennisMathias
@DennisMathias 2 жыл бұрын
You need your own KZfaq channel..all the elements.
@rcrogers6
@rcrogers6 23 күн бұрын
Just because you can do something and you enjoy experimenting; doesn't mean you do it. Your pilothouse "roof" is festooned with antenni and the addition of a fully functional Starlink antenna would not be ugly or distracting. Most people use a short pole mount.
@chrisclinton8949
@chrisclinton8949 2 жыл бұрын
Get a patent! This is terrific…
@CarneyFelonLawyer
@CarneyFelonLawyer 2 жыл бұрын
The Starlink unit works in Alaska. I think it might rain a lot up there. Snow falls on these units, freezes and then melts. Maybe not good on a submarine. I use the unit on the hardtop on my 45' sport fisher in storms and still get reception in a non-prime coverage location.
@rickescalante3628
@rickescalante3628 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, you guys are great. Love watching your show. I just don't understand why you guys don't get more subscribers or views. I hope for the best in the future. Can't wait till you guys retire and head for the Wide Open Seas. I wish you guys all the luck in the world, the world at sea.
@paulcunningham2859
@paulcunningham2859 2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@SFDY241
@SFDY241 2 жыл бұрын
There is a reason it it has the ability to adjust it's angle - likely to get a more direct path to the available satellites. Making it fixed will likely degrade its performance.
@tmastersat
@tmastersat Жыл бұрын
Its also illegal and not authorized by the fcc. But not to worry dish network will get them all shut down
@nicolasmotta5517
@nicolasmotta5517 Жыл бұрын
hey man! nice project you have here! i have a question, how did you take off the stick from the dish?
@Sirena_Edonismo
@Sirena_Edonismo 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, so I've always been impressed with Shawn's skills, but this takes it to a whole new level. I think I'm developing a man crush. (Not that there's anything wrong with that. 😂) So since most of us aren't at Shawn's level nor have that kind of equipment at our disposal I'm assuming if this works you will be selling conversion kits? I want to be at the top of the list. I won't be able to sleep at night if you have something on Freedom that I don't have on Edonismo. Oh wait, you have Elizabeth. I lose again. 🤦🏻‍♂
@mandmmilling3716
@mandmmilling3716 2 жыл бұрын
I am so waiting to see how this turns out for you!!!!
@djtopherau
@djtopherau 2 жыл бұрын
stumbled upon this - youtube algorithm right. fantastic machining, 'dishy' looks cleaner after you removed the base then before. i was dubious in regards to how this would go speed wise considering it cannot steer itself, shy of the phazed array, but i watched your install and it looks like good download speeds still. Are you able to download something largeish and graph the speed over time, i'd be curious to know when a starlink sat moves in and out of the observable sky how much effect it has considering it cant move. the only reason i say this, is considering the high speeds you got, why would they add the remote base, its just a wearable part that adds cost and complexity, why not install all dishes directly up,. either which way, nice work. very clean
@amerz2477
@amerz2477 2 жыл бұрын
i need a ''SHAWN'' IN MY LIFE!!! i wish I was smart like him!!!
@DIRTCINEMA
@DIRTCINEMA Жыл бұрын
How did you remove the pipe to expose the wire like that?
@mp6756
@mp6756 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate a person willing to adventure a bit outside the box if you were. Rules only apply for those who live by the rules and obviously that's not your thing and that's impressive. I have only one question is the Bridgeport onboard? Nicely done, a slitting saw might have cut with less tool pressure but that's not ment as criticism it's just a thought.
@zachbourdeau7931
@zachbourdeau7931 2 жыл бұрын
Would the antenna fit into a 24 inch empty dome? The flat roof mount was a great idea though!
@magdatomek
@magdatomek Жыл бұрын
very nice project. What plastic did you use for the base that bonds good with 5200 and light weight? how thick. Thank you for sharing
@Mail2sumit88
@Mail2sumit88 Жыл бұрын
FCC approves Star Link to be used on vessels!! ☺️
@TheBigWWI
@TheBigWWI 2 жыл бұрын
Well done bro! Yer not just a pretty face... Nice mill.
@parnellpollioni
@parnellpollioni Жыл бұрын
What did you make the base from? What adhesive did you use? Thanks for sharing
@dandersonjr
@dandersonjr 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I didn't think it looked that bad on the roof with all the other things already up there. Hope it works out for you in the long term after all the effort.
@roydenvickers6382
@roydenvickers6382 Жыл бұрын
bravo
@gerhardvanwaltsleben8944
@gerhardvanwaltsleben8944 2 жыл бұрын
Lekker man lekker 🇿🇦
@dylanstrijker
@dylanstrijker 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! Kijk je ook naar het KZfaq kanaal Yachts for Sale? Dacht daar ook je comment te zien!
@FredW-yt1ce
@FredW-yt1ce 2 жыл бұрын
How did you fabricate the replacement cover? That would have been interesting to see. Thanks for the videos.
@mvfreedom
@mvfreedom 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly Shawn got lazy and didn’t film that part 😏
@sheaweston5225
@sheaweston5225 Жыл бұрын
Shawn, do you have a CAD model or CNC file you'd want to share for the base plate?
@OVER-bENGINEERED
@OVER-bENGINEERED Жыл бұрын
Love this video! I hope that antenna rotation isn't used for cross-polarization commissioning during unit startup. If you have bad crosspol isolation you can cause interference on the network, and your transmit might be remotely inhibited by Starlink (aka banned). Subjectively I'd guess starlink is a circular polarized system and this shouldn't be a problem at all. I'm most interested in how the phased array keeps up with vessel motion even while you are at anchor.
@OVER-bENGINEERED
@OVER-bENGINEERED Жыл бұрын
Confirmed it is circular polarization, this is a non-issue.
@MotorSailingforOldDudes
@MotorSailingforOldDudes Жыл бұрын
Hi guys. Just stumbled across your channel.Great viewing. I am living aboard a slightly smaller boat in Australia. Was wondering about fitting starlink here. Have the coverage. Like the idea of mounting the dish flat. Didn’t think you could. How is it working for you. Cheers from down under. Norm
@DazzaOnGoogle
@DazzaOnGoogle Жыл бұрын
Coverage in Australia is a little more fringe. Removing the ability to track will significantly reduce coverage I'd imagine
@donhappel9566
@donhappel9566 2 жыл бұрын
FWIW, it looked like you made the new mounting plate from HDPE (like King Starboard). 5200 doesn't really bond with that well. Not much does other than a few purpose made adhesives however some cyanoacrylates (superglue) and epoxies do. Will be watching closely to see how this works for you as I know plenty of people in the Bay area who would like to try it even if only for stationary(ish) use and not underway.
@cliffordrhoades5769
@cliffordrhoades5769 2 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed. We just bought a 51 foot cruiser. We’ve been enjoying your videos for awhile. How did you fabricate that backplate?
@mvfreedom
@mvfreedom 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of measuring and machining that he failed to film 😏
@tomkelly2497
@tomkelly2497 2 жыл бұрын
Sean, this will be your #1 video for views in no time. You know EVERYONE will want your flat mount, you should think about selling them?? All the Best TK
@DennisMathias
@DennisMathias 2 жыл бұрын
Tom, instead of cutting into it just put it in a box. It's pretty low profile.
@paulwilson834
@paulwilson834 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry second question was a question about initiation. I didnt quiet understand are you meant to set up at the place you have it delivered to thanks guys keep up the great videos
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