Drill and chisel sound better. The smell of lead isn't good.

Kevin is working on a cement floor and next to a brick wall, which is more safe than using a torch in an area surrounded by or in proximity to wood.

Problem is, the cast iron absorbs the heat, and lead doesn't want to melt. You can't do this with a propane torch. It just doesn't get hot enough.

The new trick is to saw the c/o flat,take a hole saw put it over the hub and drill out,really fast.

I agree with both but your way is easier because lead is soft👍🏾

Thanks for the comment glad to help.

I do like that PVC thanks Hatch.

good luck on you project and make sure to have plenty of ventilation.

Yeah I bet that had to stink!

I just had that one to work on hope no more Jim I am filling a little crazy lol.

LOL, we're in California and my 1962 home still has lead and oakum plumbing. Good ol' union work. And some of it is ready to get replaced with PVC. Wear a respirator

Thank you Andi.

Thanks for the comment.

You bet thanks for watching

It is ALOT faster with a TURBO torch tip, but most residential plumber's do not have or need a torch that gets that hot

Thanks for watching

Your welcome just be careful working with lead joints

Thanks for the comment and watching.

Thanks for the comment

I know this is an older comment, but how do you split the cast iron insert?

I cut a notch on the inside of the pipe. One on either side with a sawzall and cast iron blade. Cut from inside of the pipe through to the lead as much as you can without hitting the hub. When you have at least (2) notches chisel the pieces toward the middle. I always put a balled up rag down inside the pipe to keep the pieces from falling into the drain line.

I'm not sure that I did it right but it done and it works great thanks Daryl.

How do you fasten it in place?

Glad it was helpful! thank you Paul.

I was trying to figure out what the last guy did to my 1-1/4" sink drain and I think the method you described was it haha. Never seen anything like it. Thanks for this comment, I never woulda figured that out without finding a comment/thread like this

This is the first time working on this kind of pipe for me Danny I think I did ok thanks.

Thanks for the information.

Agreed!

i noticed that too

I was noticing that. Wondering if the iron being hot had expanded it a little like taking bearing races off of a car

Looked loose to me too. That explains it.

Thank you Gerard.

You got that right!

To correct my typos I would NOT recommend a street or (spigot) type fitting for inserting into cast iron hub, use a piece of pipe

Thanks for the comment

@@MK-xl9tt pvc pipe?

I had a fan on hope not to thanks Dean.

@@Robinson-Homestead Lead is the least of all the nasty metals for sure. I am just partial to silver but that would be a pricy thing. I am home now from the amputation and feeling better than I have in over 20 years.It will be great to get back to my pouring bench and handling the repairs and welding at the ranch. Life is good now.

@@TomokosEnterprize I follow your channel. So sorry about your right leg, but if you feel better, that's the most important thing. Really admired that silver chess piece.

@@bentnickel7487 Hey Brent. How nice of you to stop by. The leg was an awful thing that consumed my waking hours. Now I have a fresh lease on life nearly pain free. It was a good thing my friend.

Great tip

Thanks for the info.

I love it when the commenter didn't watch the video. LOL (he mentioned the process you suggested at the beginning and explained why he wasn't doing it)

Thanks for the comment and watching glad to help.

Yes Mapp gas is hotter But 2 small tanks of Oxy Acetylene it takes half the time! But only if theyr available to you??

Thanks Daniel hope it helped.

Yea he’s a ledgend

New plumber here-You think he’d notice it didn’t seal. SDR fitting, when it clearly says DWV (Sch 40). Should have called a plumber.

Thanks for watching and be safe with your project.

Oxyacetylene or oxypropane would work much better. Cast absorbs all the heat, and the lead doesn't want to melt.

Thank you for the info.

good information thank you

there is one left named roger wakfield

Yeah when he said heat up I was like oh no Methane, please work out please work out. That Methane really concerned me.

@@jacksplumbingvideos7147 this old house sure gets his value of plumbing by the $$$

Y’all are making too big a deal about the methane. If the methane explodes, then the fitting blows itself out of the joint. Problem solved!🤣🤣🤣 PS. You may want to wear a blast shield over your respirator!😆

Thank you for the comment glad to help.

Good luck my friend thank you for the comment and watching.

That's a good question Gator.

Thank you Paul for watching

I think this house was built in the 1920s.

Thanks for watching.

thank you for the comment

@@davidramey7186 sorry your right about Street elbow it has been working ok no small or leeks thanks for the comment.

Correct. His install would fail an inspection! Which we know code is the bare minimum... not the top notch. So not even passing code is a major red flag

Street is same size as OD

@@r777v No, the street size would be the same as the ID, not the OD.

Thanks Jamey.

Glad it helped

I wish I knew how to translate this thank you for the comment.

Thanks for the comment and watching

Thanks for watching and glad i could help

Thanks for the info Rick.

No i don't but thanks for watching

Thanks.

Good information Bent Nickel thank you for the comment glad I only had one to do.

Amen. Removed many a joint.

The union🤣

curious...how does the lead get in the joint initially? thx

@@treystills its melted in a little pot and poured in

Not sure sorry John.

Yes be very careful.

Used oakum is soaked so expands to seal the pipe, making it non burnable. Dried out oakum, like above all the sinks, will burn. Lit some the other day. (accidentally). No stink pipe odors 👍

Thank you Mauricio.

If you melt it make sure you have good ventilation

Thanks for all the comments.

@Joe M thank you very much.

I heated mine but could not break it loose it saw seized in there.

Not the right fitting he had a SDR fitting, needs DWV. With the proper fitting it will seal just fine.

Thank you

I have had no issues so far thanks.

sorry tunnelboy but i don't know about that

@@Robinson-Homestead Thanks for the response. Yes, I found out there is a donut for CI to CI hub and it works really well. Not sure why my dumb city doesn't allow plastic while the rest of planet earth does, but that's another topic. Sounds like a little payola action with the cast iron company.

@tunnelboy777 they don't allow it because plastic is toxic in a fire. It why we switched from abs to pvc in the 80's

My house was outfitted with city sewer circa 1908. Walt Disney's house had the same about a mile away. Iron was probably dragged in behind donkeys and oxen from the rail yard. It still works, sort of. Rust is causing perforations. NOW LET US TALK about PVC. it's expected life is 70 years, falling short of a full century. When it [PVC] was discovered does not matter since it wasn't a viable product. That is until WW2 when insulating wires for ships it proved itself useful. But those ships aren't really available for inspection (Big ba-da Boom). Or they have been refitted and ultimately now museums. We have learned NOT to use PVC for drinking water. Poison leaches out of it. Unlike a nuclear disaster, many poisons from plastic never diminish. So flushing your poo and poison into the sewer, which IS part of our water supply, means those poisons are, albeit less concentrated, in your future drink. Let's not even begin with the toxins emitted in manufacturing all the plastics or how plastic is disposed of. Yes, PVC is so much easier to install under every sink and loo, right out to the curb under ground. But if you had a choice shouldn't you be asking yourself, "Do I want to stand behind my wife breathing while she sprays aqua net on her hairdo or should I just go take my Centrum+iron?" Yes, iron kills. But only if your wife is strong, mad and has an iron skillet to swing at your head. If she isn't strong, keep that spinach away from her, it's high in - you guessed it - iron. We need to keep moving in search of alternatives to plastics. Sorry Saudi Arabia (and Texas).

@@davepetrakos475 i don't know where you got 70 years from. i herd it had a life expectancy of 500 years

Sure. It’s possible. How much time, money, and know how do you have?

Put a rubber sleeve over it with hose clamps.

@@Robinson-Homestead unable to use that unless I cut it in half. And use clamps.

Maybe put some Vaseline on it.

Plumbers putty

Silicone

Thanks!

It is air tight, no gas coming out, thank you for watching.

Good tip

When you drill it, you send tiny lead and lead oxide particles and dust everywhere, while it may or may not be more safer, simply keep that in mind.

@@hendonburgism wear a mask, goggles, and gloves. Use a small chisel and a drill. Works great. I’ve done a few jobs like that - and have been told by others not to heat it up the fumes are way more dangerous, plus work like that would be in a place that has cast iron piping, which means it would be at least +40-90 year old drain…. Those things usually come off very easy

@@RussianOZ “which means it would be at least +40-90 year old drain… Those things usually…” are also surrounded by +40-90 year old lumber!!! In this case, the OP is working around cinder block. In many (if not most) cases, that pipe will be surrounded by very old lumber…which is EXTREMELY dry and tends to burn like a matchstick. To make matters worse, homes built 75-90 years ago (especially in the South) were almost exclusively built with old growth heart pine. This wood has a very high pitch content which makes it basically impervious to termites…it also makes it highly flammable when it dries out. Think “fat lighter”!

@@BiffSarin that’s crazy. I didn’t know. I have moved to United States a few years ago. And just came across a few projects up north “Ohio” where some of these have “lead seal” Wood and a direct fire is a good way to have your insurance company involved…

Maksim, not sure about a toilet drain but i never had any issues with mine.

Thanks for sharing.

Thank you for watching.

Thanks for the idea.

Clamped.

I will try too

@@Robinson-Homestead 🙏

No issues so far but thanks for the info

thanks for watching

Thanks for watching Al

Sorry i don't remember it's been a while ago and i don't own that house anymore.

Hi, it depends on the situation.

sorry i'm not a plumber, so i can't answer that.

Joe M , Riser clamps should be used to hold it up .👷🏻

Thanks for the comment and watching

@@Robinson-Homestead yup ,anytime . This is how we all learn. Specially tips and tricks to make life easier.

Dan that is what I need but don’t know where to look for such a thing. And when I do find the proper hub I don’t know what pipe cap to purchase that won’t blow out if the sewer builds up pressure. Any good videos to show a horizontal application? P.S. I actually discovered the clean out cap to the soil pipe had corroded open and was letting sewer gas into the house.

@@Fresh-tw7ev don't know where you are located. If midwest menards carries them forsure. Home depot as well. Or a local plumbing supply house. There should be no pressure in the drain lines. If there was you would hear the sinks or toilets bubbling. If you are having sewage problems. They make a sewage back flow preventer valve which only allows sewage to go one direction.

Thanks for the comment

It does work thanks for the comment.

Thanks for the comment has been working great so far no leaks.

@@Robinson-HomesteadYou probably wouldn’t have leaks until it backs up. Imagine two straws, one with a smaller diameter than the other. They fit loosely together. You connect them with the bigger one on the bottom. If you pour water into this assembly, you wouldn’t have a leak. Then you plug the bottom and pour enough water for the water to back up above the joint. Now you have a leak.

I couldn't get the c.o. plug unscrewed thanks for the info.

@@Robinson-Homestead hammer and chisel

Thanks for the comment take your time.

No i haven't but it would be nice to know if it would work, thanks for the comment.

Thanks for the comment

Just the clamps

Having no issues thank you for the comment

No it just slide together with no problems

It worked for me just fine, thanks for watching.

Thanks for the comment Judd.

Thanks for the comment.

Thanks for the comment and watching.

Yes it was

I used a little vaseline and it seemed to seal it up pretty good no smell.

Use silicone

No I didn't