Hi, thanks so much for these videos, I've found them very useful. I got a small scratch on the quarter panel of my Defender (90), so I bought a new panel from your store (although they've gone up a bit in price since this video). It got me thinking....instead of pulling the panel off (and breaking it in the process), would it be possible to remove the trim panel inside the vehicle, and push the clips out one at a time from the inside? Thanks. Update: So I didn't want to risk breaking an interior trim panel, so after studying the clips on the new quarter panel I used a wide nylon trim removal tool to push in at the bottom inside corner (next to the door seal). With this I was able to pop off the clip at the bottom inside edge, which gave me enough room to squeeze my fingers in behind the "inner" part of the quarter panel. I was then able to just pop the remainder of the clips out with no damage to the panel.
@GS-gk9wu4 жыл бұрын
Love these videos! You guys are hilarious and just do whatever comes to mind. Please keep going!!!!!
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Thanks... you are correct ..it was not pre planned... it just came into my head as i was talking to Tyler on camera..
@oskarhoeler35494 жыл бұрын
Saw a lot of this sort of design creeping into Automotive industry where the stylist is looking for the perfect gap, the engineer looking for a practical solution where the panels can be adjusted at assembly as the body tolerance is so large and then the bean counter wins with cheap parts. I feel sorry for the parts supplier as the warranty for poor design and uncontrolled processing is going to significantly impact his business. I like the Velcro solution at least that would allow for adjustments at assembly and they could design out the clipping structure behind the panel 😆 Great video again keep up the great work, if I was in England I’d hit you up for a job a little experience mixed with your willingness to invest in younger poeple and tech is fantastic to watch 👍👍👍
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments. We have a young team in the warehouse and they are all keen to come in the workshop and learn / help out and it seems to work well. Sometimes it takes a little longer to get projects completed but we are not under any real pressure !
@richardw79594 жыл бұрын
The Defender seems to be all plastic and awkward clips. Love the use of rivets.
@DH-sm7sw4 жыл бұрын
Will you be putting up a video about the new reversing lights? Adding high level indicators on those upper panels might be useful.
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Yes working on both of those right now !
@andrewmiddlemiss15083 жыл бұрын
Simon your a star that's exactly what I was looking for.
@alanottley4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Gotta have rivets on a Defender! Nice!
@L6634 жыл бұрын
If they are good enough for a plane they are good enough for my new Defender... seriously they are still one of the best ways to join two materials together.... better than heat staking / ultrasonic staking as demonstrated by this video !
@alanottley4 жыл бұрын
I named my 101FC Radio Body “RIVET”!
@PaletoB4 жыл бұрын
Yes, like the domed alu rivets better then pop-rivets but any rivet is good ;)
@deltafoxtrot24 жыл бұрын
Another great video! one thing I am learning is that its impossible to take anything plastic of the Defender without breaking it.
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Its not impossible but takes a little skill... more than i have !
@mda50034 жыл бұрын
Well, that was riviting....
@PixelfriedhofTravels Жыл бұрын
So thanks for pointing me to this great video. I want to copy your external socket box which you build into this pillar. Is there anyway to get cables from the outside to the inside without drilling? I guess this topic would qualify for another video. I’ve seen other people than me asking the same question underneath your videos.
@L663 Жыл бұрын
If you remove the rear panel - it just pops off - and you will find that there is a rubber grommet that allows you to route wires from the inside to the outside. I touch a bit on it in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNxlpsZq2rLJqKM.html
@davidfox26114 жыл бұрын
During the launch we saw a Bull bar and integrated winch. Have you seen these accessories?
@jameskassolos46524 жыл бұрын
Did anything actually line up in the old defender?
@dieg0andres7 ай бұрын
Any chance you can sell the Fuji white ones (or other colors) from the hard top or 130 Outbound???
@tygerbright1174 жыл бұрын
Way to much poor plastic on the new Defender, make an aluminum, body colored, replacement part may be with a spot light mounting.
@bcampagnolo67593 жыл бұрын
@powerfulukltd From the looks of all the room in these panels, have you thought about rather than rivets, maybe small bolts and nuts and a hinge and turn that into small, lightweight storage? I could visualize two shelves or three small pockets for gear you need to get? Maybe electrical /USB outlets for roof top tent? Not sure, but it sure seems like some useable space in there! :) Maybe just a cool feature that contains LED lights for camping?
@L6633 жыл бұрын
Hi - I am with you 100% here and I have some ideas just like this..
@mparry53733 жыл бұрын
Have these guys installed the 2020 Defender Wheel Arch Extensions?
@kimsungsik584 жыл бұрын
Hi. Is the 2015 timing tool different from the 2009 one? discovery 4
@q8mechanic4274 жыл бұрын
You need to install the roof rails... Lots of potential upgrades can go with that.
@danielrogers40724 жыл бұрын
Yes, I want to see the rails as I will have a ski rack on mine!
@L6634 жыл бұрын
That was the plan for Friday afternoon but the roof has some weird 5 sided security fixings and i did not have the tool to remove..... kindly the Land Rover instructions gloss over the fact you will need one of these !!! so tools on order and video coming next week !
@q8mechanic4274 жыл бұрын
@@L663 yeah, I had my rail covers popped out since I got the vehicle and was too lazy to go back to the dealership so I purchased the 5 point torx and had a go at it, found out the tabs holding the cover to the plastic bracket so flimsy had to superglue them back, but I didn't care as I'm waiting for the rails to arrive anyway.
@johnwillett40864 жыл бұрын
@@L663 When you come to fitting the roof rack - how abouit some high level front lights that off-road vehicles seem to have - could be an interesting project - and how do you get them wired up ???
@spood878394 жыл бұрын
The non-uniform rivet placement troubled my OCD, lol.
@L6634 жыл бұрын
I think we can improve that but its kind of tricky with the braces on the rear part being non horizontal
@SederraMusicPress6 ай бұрын
Possible to get the part # for the clips? I spend more time trying to find these parts then the actual labor itself! ;)
@L6636 ай бұрын
The part number for the upper clips is LR092038 The part number for the white clips on the lower section is LR082683 Do a google image search of the part numbers to check they are the ones you need ! Good luck !
@martyndavies14824 жыл бұрын
Are you getting the workshop manual from Topix?
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Yes some of these are Topix and other are published by Land Rover as part of the accessory fitting accessories-instructions.landrover.com/enUSA I have asked my new friends at Land Rover head office if they can publish the Topix workshop manuals online for the older cars... Freelander 2 etc... I see Tesla have published all their workshop manuals ! Respect to Tesla !
@mikeclark44164 жыл бұрын
Whilst its understood Simon needs to know how the car is "clipped" together , I cant believe the lack of worry he shows unclipping this bran new Rover , has the Clips got a Part Number ?? LOL . - Much Respect Simon But What I really wants to know Who owns the Beautiful G4 Discovery ?
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Hi - the G4 relica is ours too.... more videos on that next week !
@martyndavies14824 жыл бұрын
Adding those rivets should have looked awful, but now it’s starting to earn the Defender name.
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Wow at last i have a fan of my crazy idea.... but i dont think many people will be doing this modification...
@HQBProductions4 жыл бұрын
Now here is a challenge...go back to Grange and tell them you have a few trim rattles...can they sort them out please?😀😀😀😀 The riveting...umm....I don’t think Gerry would approve but then some customers may like that... could you do it with a plastic headed cover...a bit like a number plate bolt or screw cap header. Whoever came up with the welding/glueing idea must be thinking....”Well I never thought anybody would ever take them off Gerry....”.😨😀😀😀😀😩
@asc968ccc83 жыл бұрын
How do you take the bloody spare wheel off please?
@L6633 жыл бұрын
We have done a video on this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p8CdgZOe35bPXac.html
@Stubear223744 жыл бұрын
Sorry but contact adhesive would work better in my view rivets wouldn’t be for me
@L6634 жыл бұрын
The rivets were a little tongue in cheek..... but they are there to stay.... part of the car story !
@patricksmeets20064 жыл бұрын
Actually the rivets do not match with the shiny plastic 😒
@rafflesnh4 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid I have to agree. But then I'm a stickler for OEM. ;-)
@mohamedhaniffa44522 жыл бұрын
Black plastic rivets would look better
@L6632 жыл бұрын
Yes I think you are correct
@rafflesnh4 жыл бұрын
I'm very doubtful that the rivets can withstand the tugging you undertook to get it off the first time. I'll bet the rivet heads either enlarge or split the plastic holes and remain stuck fast in the underlying plastic frame next time you try to prise them off. It might last two or three more attempts to remove, but if you have my kind of luck at this sort of thing, don't expect a permanent fix! "Good luck with that"!! ;-)
@L6634 жыл бұрын
I did do a test and they are fine - i would be very surprised if these break...the problem here is the poor heat staking... actually its probably ultrasonic staking.. I used to use ultrasonic staking machines when i was in electronics manufacturing year ago...Dont forget rivet hold aeroplanes together !
@rafflesnh4 жыл бұрын
@@L663 "Dont forget rivet hold aeroplanes together !" You fly on plastic aeroplanes??! Good luck with that! :-O
@DavidMcCalla4 жыл бұрын
The non-uniform rivet placement troubled my OCD, so let me make holes and metal screws that sticks out even more 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@stephenlyttleton90324 жыл бұрын
LEGO Defender...
@MrClingclong4 жыл бұрын
I genuinely want to like the new Defender, however, I keep watching videos on them..... I hope Jim Ratcliffe is keeping notes?
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Don't worry Jimbo is too busy being wined and dined by the French to build his new factory in France to worry about such details ! Ols Jimbo and his team are too busy to send any updates out to people who have registered an interest on the website ( I am one of those )... its been months now with no news. This gives me an idea for a new video ......
@neildoyle17374 жыл бұрын
Velcro - easier to take off next time.....
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Velcro is a great idea.. water proof.... could even be a secret storage area for stuff.... maybe i should design a storage box for tools there... its a massive waste of space !
@mick998r4 жыл бұрын
Leave the panels well alone. I'll put up with the gap difference. 👍
@L6634 жыл бұрын
It was removing the rear lights that got me lnto removing these... but turns out the rear lights will come out without removing these...
@cannon984 жыл бұрын
Rivets oh no
@L6634 жыл бұрын
I knew there would be a rivet hater out there....... is that you in disguise Gerry ?
@stevebrewer50374 жыл бұрын
How about disco 3
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Please elaborate.... you want to know how to remove the same panel on the D3..... or you just want some D3 videos...
@alfredponthu4 жыл бұрын
De könyörgöm, ez egy több mint húsz millió forintos autó...!
@L6634 жыл бұрын
nagyon sok!
@alfredponthu4 жыл бұрын
@@L663 Anyway, my car is a bit cheaper: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/op97YMWdxLTKnp8.html And the mud doesn't hurt ...
@peterbutler53354 жыл бұрын
One question...Why? You spend so much money on a brand new car then immediately trash it??? Am I missing something here?
@rafflesnh4 жыл бұрын
Simon originally stated that he bought the base version in order to use as a project car for the business, and presumably to develop a range of accessories or mods that might generate sales from those who like to make their cars a bit different.
@peterbutler53354 жыл бұрын
@@rafflesnh right week that's convinced me. Think I'll start riveting parts on my £50k disco sport then... Not
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter... this is a project car to test and develop accessories... the instructions stated that to remove the rear light i needed to remove this panel but the panel broke during the removal process as the welds joining the panels together was weaker than the clips... clearly this is not the way it was supposed to be. The general idea is i break my car so that other people don't have to.
@rafflesnh4 жыл бұрын
@@peterbutler5335 lol nor me! :-D
@rjpmd14 жыл бұрын
😉
@michaelbamber48874 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, thats not good. I'd be mad as sin if that happened to me. I'd be taking it back to landrover to pay for it. Get some gorilla glue and stick it back on, or apoxy glue? I wouldn't be riveting it.
@L6634 жыл бұрын
Buddy you need to sit down and have a cool beer... the new one is only £38.... but I do agree it does raise some issues..
@michaelbamber48874 жыл бұрын
@@L663 I know, but its not very good build quality. Why it pissed me off is because the world thinks landrover especially range rovers are total shit boxes that are best avoided after the warranty. I was hoping that we were going to get something like build quality, but looking like cheaping out again.