How To Repair Leaning Fences

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Leaning or sagging fences are a common problem in backyards. If you catch them in time though, it's easy to get them standing up again, plumb and secure! This short video from The Honest Carpenter will walk you through an affordable repair.
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How-To:
1) Assess condition of existing fence posts. Try to find weakest posts that are no longer firmly anchored in the ground, or places where 2x4 rails have detached from posts.
2) Force the fence back into an upright position using 2x4s angled into the ground.
3) Remove pickets if necessary to gain access to weak posts (if backside of fence cannot be approached).
4) Dig a post hole in desired location of new post.
5) Cut post to length (below full height of fence), and drop it into the new post hole.
6) Attach post to 2x4 rails using 3" exterior-grade screws.
7) Pour or mix new concrete into post hole. (Consider using the "screw tree" method I describe in the video to make anchors stronger.)
8) Wait for concrete to set up, then remove angled supports.
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Thanks for watching!

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@kswonder28 2 жыл бұрын

Love the video! My relative's neighbor has a similar fence. It has mostly fallen into my relative's yard and I thought about going over to fix some of it for them. Not a handyman, saw this video as I'm a subscriber, watched it, I can do this! You have a talent for teaching. Thanks! 🔧🗜🧠

@talishahalliburton 3 жыл бұрын

I love the name"Honest Carpenter"! I recently received an estimate for this job. I have like 8 picks leaning, and this guy gave me a quote for 800 bucks. I'll show my friend this video ASAP! Thanks for the tips.

@markme4 3 жыл бұрын

With a face like yours , im sure you can get it done for free !

@patrickohennesy6539 2 жыл бұрын

@@markme4 🤦‍♂️ gullible asf

@markme4 2 жыл бұрын

@@patrickohennesy6539 I know huh

@johnkelley9877 4 жыл бұрын

Great advice! Thanks for making this tutorial.

@jeffcanyafixiy 4 жыл бұрын

Great idea using the screws as an additional anchor!! I do half a dozen of these a year at work. Going to add that to my arsenal. THANKS!! 👍👍

@TheHonestCarpenter 4 жыл бұрын

@JUrry3 You’re welcome! Can’t remember who showed me this but it’s such a good idea. You’ll feel the difference in the post stiffness. Best of luck with the work!

@sebastiensmarth3479 Жыл бұрын

What do you usually charge for something like this? Lady just asked me to come and do this for her.

@davidcole333 5 жыл бұрын

This is just the advice I was looking for. Thank you so much!

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

@David Cole You're welcome! Thanks so much for watching :)

@johnbicknell4748 2 жыл бұрын

Just the video I needed. The wind and ivy caused the detiriation of 4 of my long fence panel sections. This video helped. Nice one fella

@bobgins1497 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta say thanks for taking the time to post this.

@Reblwitoutacause 3 жыл бұрын

" 'Post' this" Hyuk hyuk hyuk.

@blinkbuttonmash1272 3 жыл бұрын

This is spot on for the job I'm doing, thank you for posting this sir 😀

@alexandrapacheco4293 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this video! Very informative easy to follow. You saved us a lot of time and money!

@kazgaming5088 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Helped me out a ton with my fence!

@goldenretriever1508 2 жыл бұрын

I have a treated shadow-box fence that I put up in 1991. Every 5-7 years I buy two 5 gallon cans of Cabot stain (my fence surrounds a 1/2 acre backyard) and spray the stain on. My fence looks like it is brand new after 30 years. Just a suggestion to avoid dealing with a deteriorating fence down the road.

@Authorthings 11 ай бұрын

Great suggestion!!

@gunterbecker8528 4 ай бұрын

Great job mate ,you are a godsend! The world would be a better place if there were more people like you 😊

@dolittle6781 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for showin' us how to do this. Nicely done!

@toddpeters9007 5 ай бұрын

Good fix, I built my fence about 6 years ago and storm bent 16' section back , so I may use your idea ..unless I take those sections out and start fresh!! Thanks

@motherfudger6664 9 ай бұрын

Glad I came across this, I like the idea of screw anchors in the footing. I get a lot of fence repair requests so that'll help out I'm sure.

@douglasharley2440 3 жыл бұрын

great video, thanks! *respect*

@catherinerosa-baker2937 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Its exactly what I needed to know

@handymanjourney 5 жыл бұрын

Looks great, Nice work! I have never heard of putting screws to help secure the post in the concrete. Very cool! Keep it up!

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Lee!

@handymanjourney 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheHonestCarpenter where are you located man?

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

I work all over NC, Lee. How about you?

@handymanjourney 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheHonestCarpenter very cool! Are you a contractor or a handyman? I work around Sacramento California

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

Honest Lee Handyman Awesome. I’m sort of a carpenter for hire, though I work one on one with homeowners and mostly keep my jobs small these days. Working on getting a shop going again so I can do some cool woodworking projects for KZfaq 😬

@cvictor1983 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing it’s gonna help me with my fence I gotta redo cause of the post getting loose.

@doconnor1354 5 жыл бұрын

I'm just getting to this project. Great vid. I will try your suggestions. Thanks.

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dennis! Good luck with the project :)

@silveriocastillo9557 3 жыл бұрын

Great tip thanks👍

@chrisjohnwebster1 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very useful, great to about putting screws in the base of the post

@Rextrent 4 жыл бұрын

To each his own. Different strokes for different folks. This is not meant to be bigheaded! I would knock off the old panels, and make some room to work in that new post hole. That said, I have cut corners on prep work in my younger more impetuous days (less savvy but less beat-up). I get kind of stressy when I'm fighting on too many unnecessary fronts, so make way and clear some space! Thanks for the fine vid.

@Ceares 3 жыл бұрын

thanks, you made this look completely doable for an amateur DIYer

@magicrobharv 3 жыл бұрын

Great video.

@amirvenson1937 3 жыл бұрын

Best video ive seen on post repair thank you

@TheHonestCarpenter 3 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome, Amir!

@Luckingsworth 5 жыл бұрын

Good vid. One thing to consider is that like you said in the beggining, sometimes the issue is wind. If you live in a windy area it might make sense to place strategic holes in the fence to allow wind to pass through and apply less pressure on the fence. It can be done in a tactful way that doesnt negate the usefulness of a privacy fence.

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

Jon M Thank you! I have seen this done before-sort of like windows in the upper 30% of the fence. I’ll do a little more research on it now. Thanks for writing in!

@Authorthings 11 ай бұрын

How? Are there pictures online somewhere?

@devonwilliams2423 5 ай бұрын

@@Authorthingsimagine the holes you drill with that circle bit you put on doors but smaller or similar

@sonnco 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! I learned a lot

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

Son Nguyen Thank you! I appreciate you watching

@stevecharman8420 3 жыл бұрын

The best bit of advice I ever got was "Don't make a repair so good that it shows up how bad the rest of its surroundings are"

@BondeyeView 3 жыл бұрын

The neighbour and I are motivated to fix our leaning fence. It is a scary concept and we have heat wave conditions right now, but I hope it will work out! Thanks for the guidance on your video!

@joelglanton6531 3 жыл бұрын

Lol so scary

@bigeric8334 2 жыл бұрын

How’d it turn out

@timf1555 Жыл бұрын

So scared didn't do it lololol

@1sogybisc 3 жыл бұрын

Glad I found this video. Gonna be a long weekend. The fence company told me $1200 to fix 4 posts...

@TheHonestCarpenter 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that seems excessive Matt

@t8rtaught 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! My friend has this problem with their fence except it's with 3 post at different points along the fence. They've asked me to help fix & I'm glad I watched this video! Wish me luck & thanks again for unloading!

@mathandphysicsplaylists4721 2 жыл бұрын

How'd it go?

@Authorthings 11 ай бұрын

How'd it go?

@sentilele 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing!!

@jeffcarpenter6306 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. I have to do this same project at my son home.

@hadleymanmusic 10 күн бұрын

Dang u got the good dirt. I got tan concrete with red under that. Water bucket time 120° in the sun.

@charliesmith9528 4 ай бұрын

My 3 rail fence i just installled looks great facing it BUT f you look at is from angle its showing bulges a little which makes fence look awful,,someone suggested cutting post at ground lever where the bulges are and drive a tpost in behind post after i get fence aligned,,any ideas,,i did run a string line when i dug holes but i was doing this by myself and went too fast

@KY_CPA 3 жыл бұрын

You've got other videos touting the oscillating tool. Do you purposefully avoid using a blade made for nails or for wood with nails?

@lopesnomexican 3 жыл бұрын

Nice 👍 thanks

@markme4 3 жыл бұрын

Satisfying!

@notary9 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting this video! I have been searching KZfaq for a video that reflects my wooden fence problem. Your video details the exact situation I currently have where there is a small exterior gate fence on the other side of my wooden fence that is leaning. What are yout thoughts on using a fence mender to secure the current defective post rather than inserting a new post? Also, can I reuse the current pix that are removed to assess the defective post? I ask this because my wooden fence was specially designed with each pix shape by saw to reflect a circular design.

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Craig, you’re welcome, I’m glad I could help! Fence menders are fairly new and I haven’t worked with them yet. I tend to go with full post addition or replacement because it’s so cheap, strong, and matches the original fence aesthetic. But, Simpson tends to make good stuff, so I’d b interested to know how well they work! As for the pickets, feel free to reattach them if they’re in decent shape-you can sometimes fasten through the same nailholes even. If the picket is split or chewed up, you may want to fashion a new one. I hope that helps!

@Rogueknowledge 2 жыл бұрын

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 thanks bro

@imshypleasebenicetome.5344 Жыл бұрын

Recenty fixed a sagging old fence, before my dogs couldn't dig under, now idk what ispiration they got but the have dug underneath trying to make escape spots, now i dug 1 foot under the fence to install femce wire to deterrent that behavior, gee wiz what a job

@MarioWarKing Жыл бұрын

Timely video. We were searching the internet for a good while looking for building a fence inside of an existing fence. Not sure if we can save most of the existing fence....though...

@marcmiller789 3 жыл бұрын

I suggest if you add a new post to bring your footer above ground level. Thats what caused first post to rot out. Also in my years of construction i have found that mixing in the hole isnt the best. Ive found many post over the years that still had dry spots of concrete from being mixed in the hole!

@go4lowcost652 3 жыл бұрын

agree with Marc Miller....

@barkershill 2 жыл бұрын

I also agree with Marc Miller

@bobv8219 2 жыл бұрын

Dry spots usually occur with inexperienced homeowners not so much fence repair men making videos of fence repair, most homeowners don’t own a long bar which is well suited for this application.

@marcmiller789 2 жыл бұрын

@@bobv8219 Dry mixing in the hole causes post footer to be at or below ground level, neither of which are good. I prefer to mix in a wheel barrow. I can control consistency better.

@toddpeters9007 2 жыл бұрын

I have had good luck with putting a couple big hand fulls of concrete in hole then post , add concrete half way up hole , add water, then fill concrete around rest of post and on ground add rest or water about 3qts

@tjmanetti 3 жыл бұрын

The Mrs. has been wanting me to do this for a while. Now I have some guidance. Thank you! 🥇

@Shahzad5814 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video. My problem is that the fence is behind wooden deck and it is sagging outside on the other side towards neighbor's property. Any suggestions? Thanks

@mbeaudet2204 4 жыл бұрын

If only those of us who live in harsh winter climate could access such shallow ciment!! We have to dig 3 .... 4 feet down :( Despite the differences, i appreciate your videos! Merci beaucoup!!

@TheHonestCarpenter 4 жыл бұрын

m beaudet I feel for you up there! Our frost line is just 12” down here in NC 😅 Thank you for watching and supporting!

@angelafox4380 3 жыл бұрын

Good fix. These fences can be a pain!!!!

@samston 2 жыл бұрын

the neigbor put lots of boulders behind my fence, one of the post is leaking inwards and ready to fall. I dont think supporting the post will help because of the huge boulders the neighbor placed behind my fence. What is your suggestion to get my post to straighten up?.

@Authorthings 11 ай бұрын

I hate these fences but a new one is out of the budget right now. Thank you!

@davidl2281 2 жыл бұрын

Good job, the fence is on borrowed time already, but would be very costly to replace it all , I have to do something like that to my fence, but I used good sealer/stain on mine years ago and it's n better shape.

@cryengine_x Жыл бұрын

the sealer will do nothing where the fence will fail, where the posts meet the ground

@CarlosLopez-tt5py 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for you video I have the same problem 25 year old fence

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

Carlos Lopez you’re welcome, Carlos! This is a great way to add some more years to it. 🙂

@165Dash 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job! Small detail not central to the tutorial but lay persons should understand that concrete doesn’t “dry”...it “cures”. Concrete hardens through a chemical reaction not evaporation.

@Harley-ir4er 3 ай бұрын

As a Former Carpenter, Very often the reason the post rots at ground level because the concrete isn't taken up to ground level and tapered off to create a water run off. If the post is sitting in clay at ground level it never gets a chance to dry out properly. Thanks for posting and helping many people. Property maintenance is expensive and there's lots of stuff people can do themselves with your help and guidance.

@TheHonestCarpenter 3 ай бұрын

Very true, Harley! When I used to set posts I would always tell clients this same thing. But it’s crazy how often they wouldn’t let me taper their concrete boots because they didn’t want to see them! It was constant uphill battle 😅

@Marwan4Sultan 3 ай бұрын

😊

@scotthazelton4511 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@AJDIYNetwork 4 жыл бұрын

Is there any specific screw you drive into the post prior to putting in the concrete! Would carriage bolts suffice! Either way, that’s brilliant. I’m in the process of fixing my swaying fence, which was built 1.5 years ago..... I’ll post it this week.

@bobv8219 2 жыл бұрын

No , also nails , wood lags 1/4” diameter or 3/8” and very random placement but certainly at or near the first 6” base

@R1tu4lz 8 ай бұрын

Are you also putting gravel down at the bottom of the hole? How deep is the hole?

@alecdaman3931 7 ай бұрын

Nails or screws? Did you predrill the holes?

@kevinbietry7527 2 жыл бұрын

I love little projects

@skylerwyatt7993 3 жыл бұрын

How do I fix a wood fence and gate that has damage and or deteriorated area's?

@user-kk8jo4th7p 2 жыл бұрын

SIKA Post Fix foam ........can you use this instead of concrete?

@vincentnieto7792 3 жыл бұрын

I curious as to why you didn't use a pressure treated post? It's coming in contact with the ground.

@FromThe3021 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers, I also used a masonry drill & drilled access holes so I can tighten the screws up in the future. For a professional finish fill the access holes with a grey silicon. As well as aesthetic’s, this will help ensure they aren’t easily accessible to persons unqualified who could possibly over tighten them. On the rare occasion I have used fresh cement rather than piecing back the broken posthole cement pieces into their original positions, I use a small twig to write *DANGER* in the cement. Doing little extras like this matters, trust me. I have new clients all the time and have not once ever had a customer call me back. _Franchises available._

@bobbierivas534 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video! What type and size of screws do you use to attach the picket and cross bar to the wooden fence posts? I'm not handy at all, just trying to repair my fence that detached from the post. The post isn't leaning, so I'm good there. Looks like whoever installed the fence used nails. That doesn't seem like it would hold and probably why the fence has detached. Seems like some sort of screw would be better. Do I drill a small hole in the fence before drilling in the screw? Thanks a bunch!!

@TheHonestCarpenter 2 жыл бұрын

Exterior grade screw Bobbie! Prob 3-1/2” if it’s going through picket and crossbar into post.

@ssjordan34 9 күн бұрын

You just saved me $5000

@ghostfive7119 4 жыл бұрын

I always tar the bottom 1/4-1/3 of post to prevent rot

@cryengine_x Жыл бұрын

this will do nothing and will be gone in a year tops anyway.

@HaroldtheDon 3 жыл бұрын

I have a similar situation, only that it's my neighbor's fence leaning towards my backyard. I'm a new homeowner, any advice on how I go about this situation?

@wakefieldallan 3 жыл бұрын

Scream obscenities ove the fence until they fix it to get rid of you... 😉

@HaroldtheDon Жыл бұрын

So much wisdom packed into so small sentences, thank you gentlemen lol

@uktony1525 4 жыл бұрын

In the UK there is a product called Metpost Repair Spur for this situation. Saw the old post flush then hammer in the repair spur, dropping in the new post. Do you have this your side of the pond?.

@TheHonestCarpenter 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen a handful of things like it Tony. Do they work really well?

@uktony1525 4 жыл бұрын

They work for one or two posts but I would not want the whole fence supported by them. I would want a full metpost either side.

@zen8xx800 3 жыл бұрын

Are you in Ontario

@shawzhang4498 4 жыл бұрын

hi, I have a wooden backyard fence like the one in the video. but I am not sure whether I own it or my neighbor does. is it possible to judge by the side of the fence? I have the smooth side.

@Thejay120 4 жыл бұрын

you share it lol

@joelglanton6531 3 жыл бұрын

I know this is old but if anyone else has the same problem you really should get a surveyor out on your property to tell you definitively where it begins and ends. You do not "share" the fence; it belongs to whoever has it on their property.

@macgyver52 3 жыл бұрын

The rules is usually the person who pays for the fence gets to put it where they want it( within 2 feet of the property line) to avoid rocks, trees or just to square the lot. Some property lines are kind of funky or at angles. Or you just want to take the 2 feet for yourself. And a good bartering tool is to give your neighbor the good-looking side of the fence. Always talk to your neighbor before you put up a fence! most people are pretty agreeable if you're going to pay for it and give them the good-looking side they'll usually let you come in a foot or so.

@danneilson684 3 ай бұрын

Good video however, when applying this strategy in any frost zone, your holes have to be deeper than the frost line. In my area that's 4 feet deep!! Otherwise the frost will heave the post out like a toothpick.

@davejarvis7522 4 жыл бұрын

What would you pay for this to be fixed ,what you just did?

@hugozavala33 5 жыл бұрын

Thx

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome, thank you for watching!

@hugozavala33 5 жыл бұрын

I did like it share and subscribe at your channel

@gabesmokeymartatom 8 ай бұрын

How would you pull it up if everything about your fence was the same layout of posts and stringers but the fence is leaning AWAY from you in your yard. And you can’t go in the neighbors yard to push it up like you’re doing. I have to PULL mine without going in the other yard. Any ideas anyone?

@timothypadilla1277 2 жыл бұрын

Those new pickets stand out big time you can use a mixture of vinegar and steel wool to age them quickly

@MRamiro13 3 жыл бұрын

How much can this cost

@DobbsyLondon 5 ай бұрын

Make sure the post is sufficiently treated that screw anchors don't allow the postcrete to penetrate the timber and rot.

@RIDLEBRA13 3 жыл бұрын

What is a sister piece

@pegdimarco5316 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you can find awesome woodworking plans on woodprix

@johnmcginley1237 10 күн бұрын

Last I knew it was a big no, to putting galvanized nails/screws in pressure treated wood (causes rot) - worth mentioning unless it's no longer the case...

@gencspahiu1966 3 жыл бұрын

So is this your side of the fence? Or you’re on your neighbors yard in order to fix it?

@ZipSnipe Жыл бұрын

Yeah this is the old way to do it, the cool new way is to get a concrete vibrator and clamp it to the fence turn it on for about a minute and I will straighten itself out. It’s amazing you got to try it

@ronsantos475 2 ай бұрын

That’s honestly a problem for the next guy in 20 years when that post start to lean with double the cement. I instead added a 4x4 anchor

@johngaspar4425 4 жыл бұрын

why is the fence facing the wrong way? Neighbor troubles?

@Defund_HOA. 2 жыл бұрын

Random, but anyone recognize what animal makes that call @ 2:11? Haven't heard that since childhood

@cryengine_x Жыл бұрын

it's called a bird i believe

@nannettebattista3047 3 жыл бұрын

My husband uses these plans from Stodoys and is very happy with them. However. I love yours!

@hampd2528 5 жыл бұрын

How much should I charge a client for this type of job?

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

@Hamp D I think it can vary based on how much you're doing. I was somewhere between $450-500 for this repair, but it included a few small things I didn't really show here. Also, markets can differ pretty drastically based on home prices and such. You bidding something like this soon?

@hampd2528 5 жыл бұрын

It's very possible for the near future. I'm planning to tap into the market shortly because the area that I live in is riddled with fences in this exact condition. Thanks again for the video and feedback. Keep'em coming and I'll be sure to sub to your channel bro!

@TheHonestCarpenter 5 жыл бұрын

@@hampd2528 Awesome, thank you! For what it's worth, I love projects like this--fairly straightforward, low material cost, easy to knock out in a single day. You can line em up one after another. Good luck with the work!

@hampd2528 5 жыл бұрын

Yes sir, and Roger that!

@jakeflo4215 3 жыл бұрын

OMG you explain every little details you forgot the ants walk to get food lol

@davide7029 3 жыл бұрын

I live in Montreal, Canada where we have cold winters. I was advised that to dig a hole for the fence post, I have to get below the frost line, approximately 48". Your advice on this would be appreciated. Thank you

@earlyriser8998 3 жыл бұрын

David, in areas with a frost line the post can be lifted out of the ground by water freezing UNDER the post...hence the deep depth for a post in Canada. We had similar requirements in Alaska. But Honest Carpenter is in North Carolina and they don't have deep freezes.

@davide7029 3 жыл бұрын

@@earlyriser8998 Thanks for this. Just confirms what I have learnt and is appropriate for my climate.

@anna-fc9sq 2 жыл бұрын

great video 🙈💋

@lovegodfirst654 2 жыл бұрын

I would have fortified that other bow. I have a privacy fence in a high wind area. The bow doesn't last long before it goes. That other section will go with the next storm. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass, but fixing it before it goes is easier. I learned that the hard way. I knew it was going to be a problem and kept putting it off. Ripped down three sections. I would fix it before it creates more problems.

@weekendwarrior3420 2 жыл бұрын

Finish concrete below grade and cover with dirt? That's how you make it rot again soon.

@sebastiensmarth3479 Жыл бұрын

Lady just ask me to do a job like this for her today. What's a reasonable price for a job like this? If you were gonna price it by the job?

@gyver471 4 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video for a metal fence post that’s leaning?

@TheHonestCarpenter 4 жыл бұрын

Gyver, I’m teaming up with many more pros these days. I’m really angling for a metal fence company, and will gladly does this video if so

@craigsmith4775 3 жыл бұрын

Would have used a concrete spur and attached it to the existing post especially as it's getting covered up. Essentially same repair but no more wood in the ground.

@SlickArmor 2 жыл бұрын

What is this spur you speak of?