How To Replace Cummins 24v VP44 Pump

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VP44 Removal & Fix! How to diagnose and replace a VP44 fuel injection pump on your Cummins 24v diesel engine throwing a P1689 code! This applies to 1998-2002 Cummins 24v diesel engines.
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@Mdrennan51 2 жыл бұрын

Loved the video very helpful. Just letting you know for future reference. You don’t actually have to take both injection line sets off just the front one. And also the two smaller bolts on the intake horn fit perfectly in the two slots on the gear for pulling it out. just some things I picked up. Doing it myself after watching this video thanks for the help.

@MDJB12 6 жыл бұрын

Ive heard its a good idea to super glue the key into the keyway when you go to put it back inn to help reduce the risk of it falling off.

@rodneyhowell2703 4 жыл бұрын

I like the way you describe how to do the job.this old man needs all the help I can get.thankyou sir

@gofast4127 4 ай бұрын

Love your video all these years later, no nonsense and to the point….

@DOffio 3 жыл бұрын

FYI Folks, at least some of the VP44's have a bracket at the rear that goes down to the block with a pair of 13mm bolts. It will not come out without pulling that stupid bracket. Ask me how I know. I don't know if that truck did not have one, or if Rich just forgot to mention it. My 2000 had it.

@kurthuddleston8614 2 жыл бұрын

Bent my bracket. ..lol

@islotplops3357 8 ай бұрын

Just did the same thing...😂

@paularteau9482 5 ай бұрын

Thank you. Again all questions answered in one vidya. I'll be doing this thos afternoon

@remraf72 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Rich, Fyi, I always watch your vids all the way through. I've learned some invaluable information, Thanks to you. Love the channel!

@wpiken 3 жыл бұрын

I’m working on my grandson’s 2001 Ram with the 5.9 Cummins. Thanks so much for posting this video- you’re a lifesaver. (And a $ saver!)

@sietherine 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome videos, just the right level of detail. Easy to follow and understand. I'm halfway but confident for the second half.

@JP-xg8cd 5 жыл бұрын

I like ur style bro straight to the point with no BS 👍🏼

@Michael-lx7px 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info, just replaced my VP44 thanks to your help all went smooth!

@skipshull7235 Жыл бұрын

Replacing my Vp soon. Thank you for the thorough video, no BS just straight to the fix. Good personality for these kinds of videos. Thanks again

@mdmwelding3189 Жыл бұрын

Getting ready to take my vp out . Great video

@COMM114 Жыл бұрын

Once again, the patience of Job pays off. I would have just swapped out the p-pump and hoped for the best. Everything indicated a pump problem. Given the prevalence of this pump on tractors, some mechanic locally must have seen a similar problem. Good work. I maintain a 5.9 Cummins powered 1998.5 Dodge 2500 and a 1999 Dodge 2500. They are not powered by the p-pump but it is nice to compare. I carefully note anytime you work on second-generation Dodge diesel. And yes, I have swapped out a VP 44. Thanks for the input.

@josephmartin2362 3 жыл бұрын

Good, straight to the point video (no useless chatter!). Just a clarification, you are not worried about the key way falling -- you are concerned with the key falling out of the key way. Other than that -- Great job.

@cockasorrus7475 3 жыл бұрын

Great tips from the paper between the bolt head & socket to the making SURE you position the key to the top! Really enjoy your enthusiasm in teaching others. You actually like what you're doing and enjoy teaching others, it shows!! Thank you!! Don't be a Gary!! LMMFAO

@davekana8388 6 жыл бұрын

Nice job cuz u DeBoss! Made it to the end too because everything you say is helpful, not useless jabber! Keep up the good work, Dave!

@luckyvickery7621 Жыл бұрын

Direct n to the point, great side notes/insights/hints… and w/o the “watch me fumble to turn this wrench” bs that steals time from the voyeur… Bro, I thank you😌

@dodgedieselgang3760 4 жыл бұрын

My truck has the same code and same problem. You have confirmed it is the injection pump because I already checked every thing you said Great video, it was very helpful. Thank you so much and keep up the good work.

@Juliojuarez1 4 жыл бұрын

How do u did for getting the code?

@dodgedieselgang3760 4 жыл бұрын

@@Juliojuarez1 what

@Juliojuarez1 4 жыл бұрын

How did you do to get that code?

@eric1985elcamino 5 жыл бұрын

I don't even own a cummins but I watched this entire video because it was more entertaining than most videos 😂

@joegfjh 4 жыл бұрын

Super helpful, same procedure for Freightliner chassis rigs with the ISB that we deal with

@mikekempin7917 6 жыл бұрын

I'd let this guy work on my truck any day.

@chanceroberts4573 6 жыл бұрын

Yeh no kidding nice to see a mechanic work' not just another parts changer' so tired of garages with no mechanics.

@chadblechinger5746 2 жыл бұрын

I bet you would 😅

@steveklopping2812 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. You really gave some good, detailed information. Thanks!

@TheGeekwad 6 жыл бұрын

Great Vid. You should try a VP to P Pump swap vid.

@TheGeekwad 6 жыл бұрын

Only reason i say that is because it's hard to find a ext cab/quad cab short box 12v that isn't going for $20,000.

@superchargedpotato 5 жыл бұрын

I don't let ANYONE touch my truck, I have always done all my work except for a front window. You are you only person I would ever consider let work on my truck if for some reason I couldn't. I love your videos, always good information.

@white24valve 6 жыл бұрын

If you don't mind me adding to your video Rich...when replacing g the VP44 ..I always replaced the fuel line from fuel filter housing to VP44 to a 1/2" hose..I think the inside diameter is so small the fuel..like you said isnt enough cooling for the computer box on top of pump..with a half inch hose..you get more fuel to the VP and more cooling to the VP for the computer box..I stalled a new vpp44 I got from the diesel store .com in 2009 along with a HPFP fass 95...in a friend's 01 Cummins and it is still going today..first thing I do with those lift pumps from the factory is throw them in the trash..lift pump goes out..takes out the VP44 ..there not design to pull fuel from the tank like CP3 on a Duramax...great video Rich!(keeping in mind of cost as well)lot of folks don't know about the half inch line upgrade..and I always super glued the wooddruff key into the shaft ..tap it down in there a little and make sure the top of the key is parrell with VP shaft..

@DEBOSSGARAGE 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that! I never mind helpful info to save anyone some dough!

@isaacmiller8182 6 жыл бұрын

Have a 99 An have a delay with wait to start light when light come on the truck will fire if the light I not on the truck will just crank has me puzzled

@taken5875 6 жыл бұрын

Isaac Miller that sounds like it could be an ecm issue to me.

@sepresley1 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for your help...much appreciated from lower alabama

@athletejmv 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Much appreciated. You make it seem so simple lol.

@docslinux2 6 жыл бұрын

Extremely helpful!

@briancassiday453 Жыл бұрын

Lots of good tips. Camera movement was almost to much to watch, but the info was worth it.

@jonathanspencer8305 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for every video man

@rgnewlife6622 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your great help!!!

@glennbeadshaw727 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome....hands on...no wasted time.Thankyou!

@sludo56 6 жыл бұрын

Great vid Rich

@feeneysmechanical6215 6 жыл бұрын

Great video. That's funny you get 106.5 wyrk at your house in Canada, that radio station is one block up from my work. Thanks again

@DEBOSSGARAGE 6 жыл бұрын

Tell them to stop repeating the same 3 commercials all day. I can only listen to them for about 45 minutes at a time!

@feeneysmechanical6215 6 жыл бұрын

DEBOSS GARAGE . Lol I know exactly what your saying. I have to change the the station after a while.

@CarswithNash 6 жыл бұрын

"Don't be a Gary..." LMAO! I don't own a Cummins & I still watched it to the end.

@Ka_Gg 4 жыл бұрын

haha. My version is a darrell....Don't be a darrell. lol

@michaelbenoit248 4 жыл бұрын

I own a 1st gen 7.3 Powerstroke & I still like to watch Cummins stuff, cuz there isn’t much on the Powerstroke’s & the stuff there is, is trash & it’s just people trashing them cuz the 6.0, 6.4, & 6.7 give the 7.3 a bad rap. Thanks EPA for ruining fords new Diesels. Or at least the 6.0-6.4.

@Michael-lx7px 2 жыл бұрын

I live in the Rocky Mtns. and our version is a 'Citidiot'!

@terrysnyder8378 2 жыл бұрын

@agoogleuser7784 6 жыл бұрын

You’re right about making sure the key is lined up for reassembly because when I reinstalled mine it was lined up 90% of the way and ended up going all back together. Turns out the key is timed perfectly for the pump so just by the key being barely off to the side of the key way the motor couldn’t run. When I removed it again it had barely taken the edge off the key and messed up the pump timing just enough to not run right. Took forever to find a diesel shop around that had the same numbered key that would match up for my pumps timing. Installed it perfectly lined up and the engine ran great.

@bretbreakall1582 5 жыл бұрын

Educate me Google User or anyone, I have not did one of these but are you telling me that there are different keys for different pumps that will change the timing? How can that be when there is only one slot on the shaft and one keyway on pump? did you not have it lined up perfectly and you shaved key by tightening it up? I guess I do not understand how the key can not be lined up and it still goes together easily? Thanks for your input, sorry for my ignorance, I consider myself pretty mechanical minded. (maybe not now)

@bretbreakall1582 5 жыл бұрын

After more research, Guess those keys are machined with an offset on them to dial in the timing/calibration of the pump

@jdillon8360 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, there are many different keys with different offsets. The pump repair shop uses a special tool to select and supply you with the right one. Don't lose it and don't turn it around 180 degrees in the slot either.

@jacksmith3189 6 жыл бұрын

Very informative Thanks

@meandmy68z28 Жыл бұрын

Cool 67 GTO hiding over there @ 3:30

@juanm.castillo1135 4 жыл бұрын

Very informative, thanks

@Xchunky97 4 жыл бұрын

Great video wish it told me about the back bracket keeping the pump on, before I tried pulling the gear. Now I gotta take the timing cover off to see if there is any damage. Heard a noise when that happened.

@stephenliviniuk7039 4 жыл бұрын

I just posted about the vp44 bracket...I guarantee you probably broke the torqs head off the bolt that holds the bracket onto the block.

@ricdenali4213 6 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@ed81ny 4 жыл бұрын

Heyy there's a tool for that! 🤣 nice video you certainly put effort into your channel

@devync6111 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for telling us about the bracket in the bottom, you made me a Gary and my job way harder man, fix the video

@colbyjones7654 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man always helpful

@francisstorry6753 6 жыл бұрын

Hey I stayed till the too, Learning you ! ROCK ON !

@chriskahlson 4 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial

@matthewlamp6300 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man helped a lot

@bradyarnold9209 4 жыл бұрын

excellent!!! great video i just watched to learn. and yes all the way to the end.lol

@notyou1877 5 жыл бұрын

Good mechanics are hard to find. Just like dentists, lawyers and gunsmiths.

@Michael-lx7px 2 жыл бұрын

realtors, contractors, doctors, appliance repairmen, etc,,,but I do have a great attorney!

@notyou1877 2 жыл бұрын

@@Michael-lx7px I can do most of those chores myself. I still need a dentist and a lawyer.

@OffRoadRunner94 2 ай бұрын

If you keep good clean fuel at an adequate pressure theses pumps can last a long while. I got 260,000 miles out of mine before she got wore out.

@panamaonthecheap 10 ай бұрын

Great video basic enough so most can follow it but not so basic to bore those that know the basics

@dennism103 5 жыл бұрын

Great information thx

@michaelschofield3324 2 жыл бұрын

Very helpful, thanks

@warmowed 6 жыл бұрын

Its so cool just seeing the audi's future engine just chilling in the background :D You losing your voice? I hope you feel better

@SiliconvalleyVC 6 жыл бұрын

Nice comment on the tool buying

@bitchenbob5810 6 жыл бұрын

good job thanks

@roberthammond6232 5 жыл бұрын

North of the border, mucho mechanico. Great video!

@craftybynature3760 5 жыл бұрын

I wish you were my mechanic here in ontario

@pinohatoum3623 2 жыл бұрын

Good job man thank you

@Matt-fw3xw 4 жыл бұрын

Rich, great video, I did my injectors, your video was great on that as well. The VP44 came out great and new $2k VP44 went in just as great too, but what is that lil bracket for on the block side, near the injector lines, I was using the pry bar last night to get it off and couldn’t until I saw that bracket, it’s got a 10mm bolt holding it in...not sure what it went to or if I need to put it back? Anyone else maybe??

@abudabidibibudi 6 жыл бұрын

BIG RESPECT FROM MONTENEGRO EX YU

@billyadams9985 6 жыл бұрын

Lol first one I did I dropped the keyway... Wish KZfaq was a thing before I did it

@claysumm5398 2 жыл бұрын

Getting ready to do this job. wish me luck

@bartarkis 6 жыл бұрын

"Nod if you've already quit watching." wink wink Comedy and mechanical advice.

@toddfagan7703 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks i enjoyed it .i really like the kungfu swushes to next picture frame

@darrelclancymorris9840 2 жыл бұрын

Question: do we leave the drive gear in the housing and simply pull it loose from the pump shaft? From what I saw, I couldn't tell it we were pushing the pump or pulling the gear? And will the gear stay in place even though we are moving it? Thank you.

@RobertKohut 6 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@bandito4Hire 4 жыл бұрын

Did you happen to mention the hardware connecting the VP44 to its mounting bracket needs to be removed? My mounting bracket was already broken so idk if that would work if the bracket was still in one piece

@roycepaslowski5122 2 жыл бұрын

lil tip, some of those hard to change electrical connectors that can unplug but are green come out like brand new if you soak them in regular coffee for a minute or two,

@ronwertz6837 6 жыл бұрын

The best cleaning agent for any electronics is technical grade alcohol (>70% isopropyl.) When it evaporates it leaves behind no conductive residue from the alcohol.

@johnromans732 2 жыл бұрын

I'm curious, once the gear is loose does it stay in the case and do you remove the puller at that time? I'm having a hard time getting my pump to come loose. afraid I'm gonna damage something

@joeboone2146 5 жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on the fuel boss mechanical lift pump?

@bentastic10 6 жыл бұрын

Did you change the lift pump as well?

@workinprogress6726 5 жыл бұрын

Couple questions man..i literally use your videos for everything i do on my cummins. But anyway are you saying that bad battery/ connections will make vp go bad or can cause that check engine code? Just a better understanding. And my other question is when i turn key on it takes about 10 sec or so for my wait to start light come on. Truck runs great. No CEL.

@MrDuramaximus 4 жыл бұрын

My Dodge done that and I put a throttle position sensor on and it fixed it

@mftradu 3 жыл бұрын

I just use vinegar and blow the fuseboxes out with the air compressor after, works like a charm!

@douglarue8485 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video. My new lift pump tricked me into running out of gas at just under 1/4 tank and now I can't get'r running. Put 10 gal in, bled the top forward banjo on the filter then bleed the return line on the vp44. get good pressure squirts from that banjo. Then I had someone crank the engine with #6,#4, #3 injector nut loose and when I saw pulsing flow I'd shut that one then the next and next. But it still won't start. 1yr old ECM and 3 month old lift pump. Lots of cranking is wearing on the batteries. And they are tired after the failed ECM issue when mechanic shops(two of them) each drained the batteries trying to diagnose(kept telling me it was the vp44) but would always start the truck fine over the past year. Do I need to bleed more injectors?

@chilidog73 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe you can help... I was having an issue with a surge in my tyranny. I read that it could be an electrical issue or my converter so I cleaned all my battery and ground connections and it quit. But then lately it has been dying when shifting from reverse into drive or vice versa. Any suggestions?

@matty86suk 5 жыл бұрын

Why not glue the key way into place for assembly? A tiny dab of jb weld would work.

@honey8784 3 жыл бұрын

Good video,

@johndorflinger2344 6 жыл бұрын

Did you know that that key is serial numbered to the pump? The number on the key is stamped into the VP pump and should not be interchanged. Chrysler also says to verify the lift pump volume before replacing a P0216 code. This used to be a star part which means the dealer cannot replace the pump without first calling Chrysler's star hot line.

@ze_german2921 6 жыл бұрын

What year 12V Cummins engine do you recommend for an 80s GMC truck? I would like to make 400HP for towing and realize that there are a bunch of Pumps and conversions

@felixpalacios4696 3 жыл бұрын

Good job made it all the way to the end , very helpful I got a 1999 24 valve someone ran out of fuel I have already bled the air out , ! Will not start!!

@pizzapussysanta9502 6 жыл бұрын

My new favorite mechanic! Including myself

@riclopez1627 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to install the vp44 at 180 degrees out? I removed the vp44 with some issues. But got it out complete with key set at 12 o’clock. Decided to rebuild vacuum pump at same time. Rotated motor to assist unspline vacuum pump. Then continued clock wise again to 12 o’clock for install after rebuilding and cleaning up everything etc. not thinking i may have flip timing 180 out? Wasn’t sure if diesel motor similar to timing of gas motor? Thank you for any assistance Rick

@wheyez1 2 жыл бұрын

If you stick a magnet to the lower part of the gear, it protects the crankcase from metal.

@camojay79 3 жыл бұрын

What is the thread pitch of the bolts for the support bracket that you didn't mention?

@juanleija6056 2 жыл бұрын

Cool video

@ixryq8368 2 жыл бұрын

I’m having this exact same issue but with no engine light but my scanner says same code. Will adding a new vp44 fix the issue or is it something else. I done already checked a few wires and grounds and relays

@xmrrush8355 6 жыл бұрын

do you have a brand or company you would recommended when buying one of these injector pumps, I upgraded the lift pump but it was to late, truck still runs great but every once in awhile gets dead pedal and has the injector pump code so I know it's just a matter of time before the injector pump completely fails

@teamcummins 5 жыл бұрын

Blue chip diesel

@vaccumme 6 жыл бұрын

Electronical !

@HelloKittyFanMan. 6 жыл бұрын

Space between last word in the sentence and its punctuation[ ]!

@luckyvickery7621 Жыл бұрын

After watching this a second time, I realized the motor number sticker on the valve cover, #202; MY TRUCK IS #201😏…98 1/2 Ram 3500 Dually w 5spd manual… too cool…

@DirtyLilHobo Жыл бұрын

As important as that lift pump was to the life of the high-pressure fuel pump there should have been a fuel pressure gauge to monitor the lift pump pressure. A design flaw, perhaps intentional, that assures your high-pressure fuel pump will fail and cost thousands.

@summbizzcooking1927 5 жыл бұрын

Just a question wouldnt it be a good idea to replace the tappet cover gasket while that far in it?

@mannypuerta5086 5 жыл бұрын

summbizz cooking Yes. Keating Machine makes a nice fitting billet version (vented or unvented) that prevents typical leaking from the stamped steel stock cover.

@hcg9199 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you know but the key way is typically an offset key. When you order a new VP44 there SHOULD be a new key with the new pump. Make sure you use this new key. If something happens and you mix up new and old or whatever you can read the number on the top of the key ways and it will correspond with a number on the side of the VP44 housing. Those numbers need to match for the correct offset key to be used with the correct VP44. Maybe this will help someone in the future.

@Darryl505 8 ай бұрын

I have a 2001 dodge 2500 5.9L 24v , I just bought it , was running great, I got a code so I replaced the tpps sensor, did the pedal reset, it ran pretty good , slight hesitation , but started up every time easily, drove it yesterday it , had a slight hesitation , went about 2 miles , then it died, now it just cranks , no start , checked the fuel relay it was good. Im lost now .Any suggestions or help would be great

@raulortega9468 2 жыл бұрын

Would a bad seal or bad pump cause a fuel /oil mix???? Having that issue on mine

@ziasadrudin 11 ай бұрын

Hey @debossgarage I'm in Toronto and my vp44 is shot can you suggest a rebuilder vs buying a rebuild one? I'm hearing they are cheaper to get rebuilt at a shop before buying one rebuilt. Appreciate the help

@jimswenson7274 4 жыл бұрын

could you tell me possibly where I or what I screwed up when I got this truck its a 1999 24valve cummins had a bad oil leak when I bought it I took the pump off to put a new tappet cover gasket in to fix oil leak put all back together and now it smokes real bad cranking with key it wont start pull start it and it starts and runs fine. shut it off and it wont restart with key give it a sniff of either fire right up? thanks jim

@ranatauheed6100 3 жыл бұрын

I have Nissan ZD 30 4 cylinder engine. Having vp pump same as in your video. How can I set the firing order to cylinder number 1. Can I put the key in a position same as in your video. ?