How to Restore a Car Battery Using a Stick Welder
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@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
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@davemi00 Жыл бұрын
Did your Truck Ever Start ????
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
Yes it did start 👍
@pearlrival3124 8 ай бұрын
the ground clamp cost more than the stick welder lol @@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10
@slauren19 5 ай бұрын
Can it work on golf cart batteries
@paveljelinek772 11 ай бұрын
❤❤❤ you battery was not sulfated much, since it bubbles great on 10A.. i'd watch the battery temperature and if it would not come past say 45°C, i'd desulfate overnight. The cycles are not important you know, the battery temp is.. edit: as the internal resistance of the battery goes down, less volts are needed to get the same amps go in.. so you're right with the voltage.. that's why - if you want 101% desulfation - you need the last cycle at least 50A.. and i saw a guy who was doing this at 200A (i'd personally not go that high)
@TheRealJerseyJoe Жыл бұрын
Science is fantastic. Great result !
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
It really is!
@gottamodify7756 18 күн бұрын
As the battery gets stronger it will pull the welder voltage down to its voltage.
@frankiebuttigieg3624 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for now I tri another battery and see what happened.good Channel keep good work I let you know
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
I wish you the best!
@Reloadeez 9 ай бұрын
If you want to restore lead acid battery's to new condition read The Automobile Storage Battery Care And Repair by 0. A. Witte. It was written in the 1920's but is still useful today on lead acid batteries, has electrolyte SG charts, internal plate cadmium test information, and full tear down and rebuild instructions.
@marcussamuel8009 7 ай бұрын
Great all the best
@REVIEW_JUJUR Жыл бұрын
*It did work...*
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
Yes it did, still using the same battery after a long cold winter. 👍
@deer8730 7 ай бұрын
Putting a high charge to the battery releases the sulphuric acid back into the electrolyte. Have you tried just replacing the electrolyte with a specific gravity of about 1.3? If the plates still have capacity to absorb more sulphuric acid it should be a cheap and easy way to keep using an old battery compared to forking out $250 for a new one.
@juhavuorinen6305 Жыл бұрын
It's desulfating, so the internal resistance drops. Therefore, voltage drops and its charging it self. When it's full it won't take amps but voltage rises and eventually it will explode, hence the voltage limiter in proper battery charger usually about 14.4v.
@MacMcCabe2456 Жыл бұрын
Check out "PulseTech" Xtreme Battery Desulfators. I have used these units for years on all of my gas engine driven welders as well as all my vehicles batteries. They stay hooked up 24/7 - 365 days a year. They constantly pulse the plates inside the battery and also charge automatically if the battery needs it. I also use them on my golf carts after being fully charged up with the Golf Cart charger, I connect to the PulseTech while I'm not using the cart. They supply "quick connects" so they are very easy to disconnect/reconnect. I have had great success using these units and they have saved me a ton of money especially on very expensive 36 Volt Trojan Golf cart Batteries. Just some FYI for what has and is working for me anyway.
@cousin_JACK Жыл бұрын
I’m about to try this but man that is a stout lil unit you have, 200amps wow
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, it is a nice little welder but I think it's about a 160 to 180 amp even though it says 200amp. It does weld nice though. I wish you the best with your project!
@cousin_JACK Жыл бұрын
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 thank you
@hertogpeti Жыл бұрын
Hello Maybe I made a mistake. I waited 5 minutes between the shocks and the battery was shorted too. Is that still useful?
@philventura9272 9 ай бұрын
About time one of you actually explicitly said ground goes to negative and positive goes to positive. Too many of you people are showing the battery hook up without telling which one is which. None of you actually said don't use an AC welder
@abruptlyblunt Жыл бұрын
you don't have to use a stick welder or even a 220v welder, i do my batteries with a 110v mig set up for flex and it works fine, you just have to be mindful of the duty cycle, 110v welders have shorter Duty cycles, also from my experience there is no set amount of time, what i've seen is it depends on the condition of your battery, if you have cells that aren't bubbling when you start then you have to keep doing it until they all are bubbling equally. because i use a 110 wirefeed welder i use jumper cables to connect battery to welder that way i can stand back and pull the trigger for 30 second bursts with a couple minutes in between for the duty cycle and keep doing it until the battery reaches above 12.5v in between burst then put it on a smart charger and let it charge to 100% then the batteries good to go.......
@dc37009 Жыл бұрын
Yes Thank you ! I have a Mig, and was going to adapt the technique to it .... Glad to have some insight (Duty Cycle), Thanks for posting !!!
@bertkilborne6464 Жыл бұрын
That's good to know I have a 220 stick welder and a 110 wire feed, but I don't have an outlet that matches my 220v plug so I'd have to buy an adapter for about $30. Thank you
@Jerseyhighlander 8 ай бұрын
I am confounded by this. Have an old, late 1980's stick welder that when I try to hook it up, the clamps throw sparks like I just dead shorted the battery terminals. Hear a hissing from the battery, even with the welder off/unplugged and see the old electrode clamped to the positive terminal is glowing red... again, like a dead short. Pretty sure this is not what should be happening. I any idea what's going on? Does it need to be a newer inverter welder? Thinking about using my inverter TIG but would rather not fry that.
@owenbruce4120 6 ай бұрын
@@Jerseyhighlanderare you sure your welder is putting out DC current ??...earlier welders were not rectified to DC...many older welders were AC straight off a variable transformer and MUST be attached to a rectifier first for DC output...check the voltage before use as older stuff was often 35 to 40 volts
@phonotd Жыл бұрын
Hi Bruce, as the battery has a 3 year warranty, would it not be better to just get a new one? I see from some other channels that they reckon you can restore a battery's voltage, but the cold cranking amps (CCA) will be greatly reduced, rendering the battery almost, or entirely, useless. The reason this happens is that the lead plates inside will get thinner and will warp, reducing efficiency or even touching, thereby shorting out one or more cells.
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
That may be the case but I've always wanted to try this to see if it works. I did mention in the video that I may just return it and use the warranty to get a new one but I do have a couple months to give this a try. Since it's getting pretty cold here now this is the perfect time to give it a test.
@phonotd Жыл бұрын
@DIY Homestead Projects understood Bruce, I also like to prove or disprove this type of experiment, but I would ultimately avail of the warranty on offer.
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@rustedhorsepower5132 Жыл бұрын
About the "rendering the battery useless", id have to dissagree on that one. I tried this process in a more aggressive manner(more amperage) this past July, and the battery has been starting and running my daily driver with no problems at all. I will admit I checked voltage, and load tested the battery before and after the process, but did not check its cca. My video is there on my channel , the higher amperage allowed for the battery to be ready right after the welder process, no low charge was needed. But thank you DIY Homestead Projects for posting this video, it's videos like this one that motivated me to try this.
@wsbill14224 7 ай бұрын
Just because a battery is reconditioned does not mean the cold cranking amps are greatly diminished. That's a fallacy. Often a reconditioned battery is almost as good as new.
@TROUROCKS Жыл бұрын
does sulfation happen more in solar batts or in automotive batts ???
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
Sulfation happens when ever a battery sits with a low charge. Probably more frequent in an automobile than a battery that is connected to solar that would receive charging current daily.
@MacMcCabe2456 Жыл бұрын
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Even New off the shelf batteries can be sulfated from sitting in the warehouse or store to long.
@tinof5829 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Does this work on AGM batteries?
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
I don't know, I haven't tried it on an AGM battery myself.
@francoisverdoes8552 10 ай бұрын
I got a mattweld 200 amp dc inverter,but it do not work on any battery.Why is that?..please help
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 10 ай бұрын
Sorry I am not familiar with the mattweld but if you connect it like I did in the video it should work too. It’s possible that your battery is too far gone as well.
@rosschizzoniti906 10 ай бұрын
The welder is Great idea but must be kept on for a short period of time as the voltage climbed above the 2.4volts of each cell allowable to three volts, which if left for too long can shorten the life of the cells and destroy the battery! Once the battery is fully charged it should be left at approx 12.4 volts. and is sufficiently Charged. ongoing maintenance is necessary to extend the life of the cells in the battery and is a must, also the use of an hydrometer to measure the gravity of each cell is very important to get a idea of state of charge for each cell, doing this will prolong the life of the battery.
@khaibui3575 9 ай бұрын
how often you have to do this to maintain the battery
@CRYMEARIVER-S4 8 ай бұрын
Yearly
@CRYMEARIVER-S4 8 ай бұрын
12.4 is to low 12.6 is the minimum
@g41thomas 3 ай бұрын
To be able to use it back in the car the internal voltage is not important much as the CCA or cold cranking amp.
@richardyao9012 9 ай бұрын
Hydrogen gas is from electrolysis, not boiling.
@sachinprasad7162 5 ай бұрын
Hey bro i have tried using ronix AH4604 MODEL 200A DC WELDER but mean didn't work out the way it shows in the video's i have also tried on two other batteries but didn't boil the battery 😢😢😢 any help please
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 5 ай бұрын
My guess is your battery is beyond repair. I wish you the best.
@g.j.dutoit4447 2 ай бұрын
Why if bench test ford ranger starter, it not stay ingage if i keep small wire on pin. It uningage with start small wire on start point. It must only uningage only when i take of start thin wire, am i right or wrong? Rrrrrealy hope someone can help me. Thanks guys.
@izh6421 3 ай бұрын
Will this welder work with a regular 110 amp outlet?
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 3 ай бұрын
No, unfortunately. There are many better options out there today though.
@darrylmonat5361 Жыл бұрын
If vehicle just sits, disconnect the battery. Everstart Maxx batteries are one of the best batteries on the market. I get 7-9 years from the many I have had. I am extreamly surprised to see this on a Maxx.
@MacMcCabe2456 Жыл бұрын
Everstart Batt's used to be made by Johnson Controls in the USA and were great batteries. Johnson Controls was bought out by another company and are now made in Mexico I have been advised. Other Batt companies are making batteries for Walmart Such as Decka, East Penn (same company) etc and maybe others. It's hard to tell who's battery is in the box unless you can identify the box it's in such as a ribbed box on the outside is a East Penn or Decka and a smooth sided box is susposed to be the new style former Johnson Controls battery. I guess we just never know these days unless you really sit down and do your homework, unfortunately
@willieboy8798 Жыл бұрын
you will get resistance, capacitive and inductive changes..... why bother with desulfating unless you have a use for the old battery such as a neighbor needs a back up or in a dune buggy or power for a shed! as long as the v doesnt drop below 10v that damages the recharge capability. we use old batteries in the barn on a trickle charger. but good video instead of buying a new welder look for one on line .... students get motitated to buy and find out being a welder is tough business and the cheap welders wont hold up!
@lostonpurpose3734 Жыл бұрын
Would this work 220v AC. Old school Lincoln tombstone 225 Amp. stick welder
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
I've never tried using an AC welder so I really don't know for sure.
@lostonpurpose3734 Жыл бұрын
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10Yeah, I don't know if the output voltage is AC. or DC. or how to check with out causing an arc or frying a multimeter.
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
I don't have one of those welders but there are two types I've seen. One is AC only and the other is both AC and DC. If yours doesn't say both AC and DC on the front you must have the AC only model. If that's the case it only puts out AC voltage. What I don't know is if the AC voltage will de-sulfate a battery or not, I have never tried it. If your battery is already sulfated and no good you could always try it and see if it will work. I would recommend starting at the lowest setting to see if you can get the cells to bubble. I wish you the best.
@owenbruce4120 6 ай бұрын
Multimeter is your best tool
@scottyd980 Ай бұрын
You should try it.
@DIYBill Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t think you need to charge it again after passing so much voltage and current thru it. I would have considered it successful if the battery voltage was holding around 12.8 -13.2
@TristanVash38 11 ай бұрын
Amps be damned, right?
@scottyd980 Ай бұрын
Can I put the battery in a Microwave?
@davemi00 Жыл бұрын
5 min On 10 min Off 5 Times
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@marcussamuel8009 7 ай бұрын
Hey bro,tellme can i do with charger that or it better with welding machine?
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 7 ай бұрын
That will depend on how powerful the charger is. Most chargers can’t output enough to desulfate.
@marcussamuel8009 7 ай бұрын
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 end i think so same
@bearupfarm1818 Жыл бұрын
I have a dc stick welder and 220 volt AC plug. Will this work.
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
That's what I used
@mbrang00 6 ай бұрын
yes, the welder contains the electronics inside that converts the AC voltage to DC voltage
@DOGWOMAN55 7 ай бұрын
Your welder is probably outputting 60-70 volts which gives exponentially more power than a regular battery charger or altenator.
@mbrang00 6 ай бұрын
Negative, welders output in a range of 18- 22 Volts DC, his welder was outputting 18V which is par for the course. The difference is the amount of amperage that is set by the dial. Ohms law applies
@TROUROCKS Жыл бұрын
so a bunch off stuff comes off the lead plates and falls to the bottom why do u leave it there ??? better to flush this stuff out and refill with fresh acid ??
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
The sulfation doesn't fall off the plates and collect in the bottom of the battery. During the desulfation process, it is chemically changed and absorbed back into the electrolyte liquid.
@TROUROCKS Жыл бұрын
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 THATS what i needed to know. thanks .
@frankiebuttigieg3624 Жыл бұрын
Only 1 cell is bubbling when I do like you said is something wrong
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
The cells that are not bubbling are heavily sulfated. Keep running the first stage until they all start bubbling. If they don't eventually start to bubble I think the battery is too far gone to restore. At least that is my understanding.
@wsbill14224 7 ай бұрын
Your battery is only 3 years old. If you maintain the water level it should still be working fine.
@marcussamuel8009 7 ай бұрын
I have Telwin welding machine,end i today try end start boiling and after that my welding machine little bit get hot after 5 min is this ok?> Will resist welding machine to do complete desulfate? oN MY WELDING MACHINE SI WRITTEN POWER 40 50 60 80 100 180
@khaibui3575 Жыл бұрын
how long the battery last after all this ?
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
It should be good until it sulfates again. In the video below you can see what I'm using to keep the battery from sulfating. So far it's doing a nice job. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lcCDmdCKsqmloIE.html
@swisswildpicsswp3095 Жыл бұрын
Would it work with an AC welder?
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
I'm told it won't but I've never tried it myself.
@carlfalk7251 Жыл бұрын
What would ac current do?
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know, I haven’t tried AC
@mtking2196 10 ай бұрын
Heat up the battery in seconds if it didn't explode right away. You would have a dead short 30x per second. You can use a couple of capacitors & a rectifier to do this as well.
@luedog8385 Жыл бұрын
What is happening is that the pixies that live in the battery are brought back to life you basically defibrillator thier tiny hearts and now they are doing what they do again
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
That's correct 👍
@luedog8385 Жыл бұрын
Thank you to all my fans for making this happen 2 likes a ❤ and a comment 😀
@fluorescentblack4336 11 ай бұрын
Don’t listen to this guys dangerous unscientific advice! He’s so wrong! What’s really happening is the pixies become lazy over time and the jolt from the arc welder scares them back into moving the magic around in the wires properly.
@interestedlen8823 7 ай бұрын
@@fluorescentblack4336At last, a real scientist has entered the lab!
@souk-tv 8 ай бұрын
12.6v is what you want to see
@dougcox835 8 ай бұрын
My problem with stuff like this is that a battery needs to be reliable and even if this does work it's still an old battery and will probably not be good for another 5 years or whatever would be a normal life of a battery. And it probably won't have the capacity it should have even when working. In the end, when you think about the time spend messing with the reconditioning, it seems to me like money well spent to just buy a new battery.
@CRYMEARIVER-S4 8 ай бұрын
Ya, you should just keep buying batteries 😂nothing to see here. Folks just keep on walking by.
@kimroyful 2 ай бұрын
Why is my 200A charger cant do this ?
@scottyd980 Ай бұрын
Try it.
@carlfalk7251 Жыл бұрын
Where is the vid of the engine starting?
@frankiebuttigieg3624 Жыл бұрын
I have done it 10 times over 5 day always same result. I think the battery is gone.the welder I don't know if it is ac or DC
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the battery might be too far gone.
@frankiebuttigieg3624 Жыл бұрын
Can I use a ac welding or not good
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
I haven't tried AC so I don't know how or if it will work.
@mbrang00 6 ай бұрын
no dont try with AC welder on a DC battery@@frankiebuttigieg3624
@owenbruce4120 6 ай бұрын
@@frankiebuttigieg3624no...it must be rectified DC current
@johnburrows7938 8 ай бұрын
Not the right way to cook the battery. You risk buckling the plates. De-sulphurication should be done with a pulse charger.
@brucemorris6319 7 ай бұрын
Can you do that with a AC welder?
7 ай бұрын
As far as i know, No. It has to be dc
@mbrang00 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely not. DC = Battery
@owenbruce4120 6 ай бұрын
Put AC through a DC rectifier... AC welder puts out 35 to 40 volts...check first... You can do two batteries in series if they have similar specs
@frankiebuttigieg3624 Жыл бұрын
Can I use a commen ac welding
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
I haven't tried AC so I don't know how or if it will work.
@Laarsm Жыл бұрын
it need to be a DC welder :)
@CRYMEARIVER-S4 8 ай бұрын
Not using enough amps should be up to 160 minimum
@bearupfarm1818 Жыл бұрын
Will this work on deep cycle battery?
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 Жыл бұрын
There are no guarantees with this method but as far as I know it can work for any led acid battery.
@tommycoates1978 Жыл бұрын
Deep cycle batteries generally have thicker lead plates. That being said I have the yellow dc stick welder ordered that is in other videos to charge two deep cycle 6V 425 amp hour batteries. They are expensive enough to spend 130$ for this project. I won’t be videoing but will give results. Thx for posting.
@marcussamuel8009 7 ай бұрын
This battery can last another few years or?
@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 7 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m hoping. Still using the same battery today.
@marcussamuel8009 7 ай бұрын
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 dear how long last this renevied your battery
@marcussamuel8009 7 ай бұрын
@@DIYHomesteadProjectsDIYHP10 it enough to put demineralized watter or other acid? Thank you
@angelaprater2679 6 ай бұрын
That battery only 3 yrs old should be bad at all
@chongshenchang9367 11 ай бұрын
You never measured the output voltage from the welder. It's actually around 60v thats too high for the battery. Voltage is fixed in a welder ,we can only vary the amps.
@mbrang00 6 ай бұрын
Voltage in welders is typically around 18V, some of the fancy welders with digital controls will allow your to change the voltage. However, it should be checked and verified.
@owenbruce4120 6 ай бұрын
AC welders are 35 to 40 volts...you need a rectifier for DC...then do 2 similar batteries in series
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