I am in advance screen printer at my community college and I told my teacher that the polyester should have a polyester under base so that it would prevent dye migration and bleeding and he said that he never heard of such a thing. It's funny that two days later you guys come out with a video like this lol 😆
@DennisIsAMenace2 жыл бұрын
Josh Wells is back! Love this guy’s videos
@theHotpointHoodlum2 жыл бұрын
I’m giving a like for that beautiful cookie duster you’re rocking!
@Ryonet2 жыл бұрын
hey @Hotpoint Hoodlum. Too kind. Thank you!
@spiderdoc012 жыл бұрын
Making prints on polyester t-shirts is somewhat laborious even when we use the migration block, and we place the hot garment just out of the drying tunnel one on top of the other, it can migrate from the back of a shirt to the front of the shirt below, I recommend it that I apply in the workshop and is to place cheap paper between t-shirts
@fredytexis12 жыл бұрын
Like put in paper between the shirts before you go to cure the print?
@spiderdoc012 жыл бұрын
@@fredytexis1 before and after curing the garment... the heat activates the migration and if we pre-dry the garment it is removed hot from the tray. if we cure the garment in the curing oven, it comes out hot, for that reason I place a sheet of paper between garments
@Tbonetube1112 жыл бұрын
What awesome information on polyester printing and dye migration issues! Love it keep up the awesome work!!
@Ryonet2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, @Courtney Stake!
@phazerave5 күн бұрын
off topic, but I noticed you dont fold your tags under when curing the garment. but they dont seem to be melting. what sorcery is this?
@0o0kelly2 жыл бұрын
What about cotton poly blended shirts like the next level 6200? Can I just put a thick fn ink white base instead of a full poly blocker layer?
@Ryonet2 жыл бұрын
Happy Monday @mgkmma ! if there's poly in the garment or there's risk of dye migration, an ink that is not low bleed will do very little for you, no matter how thick it's printed. that's why we need some sort of dye blocking layer. hope that helps.
@creatorlou Жыл бұрын
I need some help! If I can’t use a choke how do I register? It seems to show the block barrier under my white base. I’ve been trying to register so it doesn’t show the barrier but it’s really hard, if I stroke my white will that be a problem ?
@Ryonet Жыл бұрын
Hi! So, bottom line about blocker black - its designed to stop (greatly minimize depending on substrate) dyes in the fabric from coming up and into the print. If any part of your ink layer (minus barrier black) touches the garment, the dyes in the fabric can creep up that bit of ink and bleed into your design. Not choking your Barrier Black screen (stacking the barrier and white) keeps the other inks off the fabric. I understand potential registration issues! It is going to be a struggle depending on your press and your skills with registration. If you haven't yet, check out our recent video where Jamie registers a 4 color design on the Riley 150. The choice is ultimately yours if you choke the underbase or not.
@Villathadon2 жыл бұрын
What about printing black on poly. Does this work as a stand alone.
@Ryonet2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you could use it as a stand alone black. Hope that helps!
@2k3ace9 Жыл бұрын
Oh lord. So we only use a great gun trying to keep temp at 320-340ish. So is that saying the ink is actually at 260-280 or 380-400? Researching to get rid of dye migration on poly
@Ryonet Жыл бұрын
To prevent dye migration, use Barrier Black and low cure FN Ink to cure at 260
@thelightsout83662 жыл бұрын
Great work 👍👌👊🏽
@johnl8052 жыл бұрын
What about if you use a heat press instead of a conveyor dryer to cure?
@Ryonet2 жыл бұрын
Hi @johnl805 ! The premise is the same. The Barrier Black is there to block dye migration. So you would continue the same as usual, but you would be more mindful of your cure temp in order not to get it too high. hope that helps.
@calebcushing31952 жыл бұрын
So after the black layer then a white layer then the other colors?
@Ryonet2 жыл бұрын
Hi @Caleb Cushing ! yes, you are correct. Barrier black down 1st, white base on top, then other colors. Hope that helps!
@fuzziechicken2 жыл бұрын
Hello!! Do I need a Blocker Base if I am only printing 1 color black plastisol ink? printing my first order on 50/50 and 65/35? love your videos!
@Ryonet2 жыл бұрын
Hi @Terrie Diehl . no you would not need a blocker base if you were printing black ink on to either garment. Imagine printing light colored ink onto dark colored garments. THat's when you would use something like Barrier Black. hope that helps.
@TheJaeblog2 жыл бұрын
Can you use a stretch additive?
@Ryonet2 жыл бұрын
Hi @TheJaeblog. You can, but I would use very limited amount. 5% max so that you don't dilute the dye blocking components. You also can experiment with more, but i would do testing before production at that point. Hope that helps!
@alexsantana79932 жыл бұрын
Hello, if I am printing on a Heather grey 100% poly shirt, white ink is there a risk of dye migration? As far as I’ve read risk is higher on darker/ brighter shirts. Should I use a poly white ink or regular is fine? Thank you! 🙏🏽
@Ryonet2 жыл бұрын
Hi @Alex Santana ! Great question. The risk certainly goes down when you get on to lighter colors of poly. However, it still has potential to tint the ink. For instance, grey heather can tint the white ink a bit yellow at times. Overall, i'm much more likely to gamble on light colors of poly, because even if it does have dye migration it wont be as noticeable as when it's darker colors of garments.... hope that helps!
@vagahsieh8945 Жыл бұрын
Hi, If it’s possible use water based ink on top of BARRIER BLACK or it needs plastisol ink? Thank😬
@ericpvk2 жыл бұрын
we uss IC 741 poly base and add low cure aditive into the overprint colors. not flashing the garment more than twice if it can be avoided. getting a final surface cure temp of 320 degrees as the max temp. like the video saya only flash with the needed heat. don't sublimate the garment on press. we print hundreds of dri-fit t's & polos this way. make notes for repeatability.
@EliteTierPrintCo.2 жыл бұрын
wow, learned a lot from this! I ran into an issue and now have to salvage the order. essentially what happened is we used a water based reflective ink for a construction company along side a 3 color plastisol design. when the client received their shirts everything looked great... until they washed some. the reflective ink came out! so we got the rest of the shirts back and I figured just run them for the complete cure time of 2 to 3 minutes in the oven... when we did our wash test we got dye migration the next day :( any tips on curing the reflective ink and not getting dye migration? I now know in the future to definitely use a dye blocker. But if anyone has any tips to salvage this order they would be saving me about $3000 *fingers crossed
@Ryonet2 жыл бұрын
Hi @Raymond Lerma. This is a rough one! You're doing the right thing by cooking that water based ink for a bit longer. However, it does not help when the garment is prone to dye migration. Couple things you can do though. One solution you mentioned above, which is using a dye blocker. the other is bringing down the temp of the water based ink with something called warp drive. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gLCKibmT07-YcaM.html // www.screenprinting.com/products/green-galaxy-warp-drive-low-cure-additive Neither of which help you in this very moment. Sorry, man! Once migration is kicked off, there's not a lot you do about it!