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I'd say she transitions between singing and channeling a demon from the depths of hell

Tatiana did a recent interview on how she had gotten her voice to where it is today.

I am a metal vocalist, but I spent my formative singing years being classically trained in various choirs. Ironically, I had to utilize principles of choral singing in order to learn how to scream without hurting my vocal cords. Breath control, opening the throat, creating a wide space in the mouth, using the diaphragm, stance and posture, etc. Enunciation is especially important, since the distortion can easily obfuscate diction. I appreciate your analysis of the mechanics of it. You're spot on.

Professional opera singer and classical teacher here! ☺️Firstly, thank you for your videos, I started following you because I’m interested in starting my own harsh vocals journey and you’ve been a godsend. I find it quite bizarre that classical singers would criticize this style, given what we do is also quite an extreme form of singing in its own way. I’m a spinto/dramatic soprano and sing predominantly Wagner, Verdi and Puccini, which features heavy orchestration of about 100 players for 3-4 hours with no vocal amplification. It’s physically demanding to maintain that level of projection, and you do have to be sensible to avoid injury. Musical theatre singers are also belting in 8 shows per week, which is also physically taxing. It seems hypocritical to call metal singing inherently damaging, especially without understanding the technique. Not to mention those people are painting opera as a stuffy, outdated and elitist art form that no one would want to listen to with that kind of attitude… it’s a losing situation for everyone 😳

Hi, I teach vocal music and I love how you explain what's going on. You're definitely correct: even the coaches and instructors who are aware of good distortion don't have a working definition for everything that goes on when a vocalist growls or "screams". It's so refreshing learning more about this and being able to relate it back to what I already know, as well as teach my students about music they otherwise wouldn't be exposed to. I appreciate the work you're doing here and utterly respect your craft. Take care and stay safe!

My jaw dropped to the fucking floor when she started screaming. Her voice is INSANE.

Now all those people who don't understand what's going on should react to your explanation, so they can learn a thing or two. 😉

Rhythm! Yes! Hardly anyone ever calls this out for vocalists, but it's such a fundamental part of music! Thank you for drawing attention to this.

My voice coach growing up actually told me that metal vocals (screaming, growls, etc) are safe if you have the practice and training, and a classical background is a good place to start.

Oh my gawwwwd, I'm so sick of reactions of people saying the same cliche lines. Who's standing backstage doing this? Where's the distortion pedal? Maybe she just really is that talented at something that you don't understand. The best part is that she's definitely one of the best clean vocalists in the genre, just as an extra slap in the face. Or should I say, vocal folds?

Me here sitting watching the whole thing knowing I'll never try it because of my shyness or anxiety whatever you call it 😂 i like jinjer alot 😍😍

I dunno...I've been watching the vocal coach etc reactions to Pisces for a few days now and they seem overwhelmingly positive. Virtually everyone seems very impressed with her talent, if not a bit shocked when she goes into growl mode. I didn't really come across anyone turning their nose up at her. I think a lot of the 'laughing' when she shows how low her voice can go is nervous reaction/surprise...that's how I took most of it anyway.

I guess I've been lucky. Of all of the vocal coaches I've seen comment on Tatiana, they have been almost exclusively positive. Sure, there's the moment of shock at the first chorus (that's why I watch them), but pretty much everyone has been legitimately impressed. They're very clear to point out that no, she's not hurting herself, she knows what she's doing. I've only seen one person even doubt that it's her after finishing the video. The algorithm must be being kind to me :D

"flapping those tissues" is going to be stuck in my head all day.

I worship Tatiana from Jinjer.

I'm making lemon honey tea while watching this to prepare for her false cord video.

Your videos have such a high value, I wish more people would watch it. I really appreaciate you taking time to explain these concepts, as I hope I can improve my vocals over time with these tips

Just as a mention: All of the reactions I've seen so far, everyone gets surprised, nonetheless many of them (real and professional coaches/singers) get to the conclusion that even though they don't know the technics, they say she sings in a healthy way because she keeps singing after many years with no injuries or she shows no signs of damage after changing from screaming to clean voice, even some opera singers get it (you can watch The Charismatic Voice, she is even trying to learn) so we have opinions from both sides of course. Love your channel too :)

This is one way to share stories that will be remembered. I remember it as a deep sigh without the gust of air. It was really good.

Diana Ankudinova. Unique voice. You won't understand right away. But when you understand, you will want more...

Hi, Mary. KZfaq’s algorithm served up this video bc I have been going through Helion Prime’s catalog. I was already thrilled you are part of that excellent band. But now i am blown away by the sophistication and insight you bring to your craft. This was a really interesting video. Thanks for putting it together and for bringing your instrument to HP.

MaryZ, just wanted to say how you're awesome and you're helping a lot of people be happier singing better, harsher and healthier. Kudos from Brazil 🤘🏻

I think I'm in love! This girl understands! And she lives it. I can tell by the strong speaking voice that she can sing like a siren. I was never into harsh vocals until I heard Tatiana. I still really only like it when it's done by a woman. And only if she also has a beautiful clean voice. It's the contrast that makes it awesome. This is one of my favorite Jinjer-related videos. I need to take this course!

Exactly. If you learn right you can do anything as well as taken care of your instrument. One person who can do it all thru all different styles of vocals. He has done it for years in over 10 + bands. I am talking about Mike Patton he his idolize by many vocalists and as a range like no other. Can change on a dime thru them all and been doing it night after night day after day for over 30 years. Now he is a amazing singer.

Wow I can see why your video was the first to pop up when I asked how to sing like Jinjer. Very informative and fact based - awesome video. Btw I don’t/can’t sing so I had no clue what she was even doing - thank you

Love how you've low key got a Duran Duran photo in the background. :)

That shade at the beginning tho 😂😂

you're last album with Helion Prime (Question everything) is verry good !! and verry nice to do it with the previous singers!!

Subscribed!! Been slowly practicing false cord and cannot wait to be able to actually produce some wicked growls!

Please explain how Diana Ankudinova sings with her kontalto at such a young age. I think her voice is very unique.

I want to thank Yoo young lady. This was very informative. This girl can sing. Another female vocalist that I have been exploring is Floor Jansen. Another talented vocalist!

Thinking this would be a great skill to learn if you ever are about to be physically attacked!

Could explain what a “mid-growl” is? I was just told that’s what I do when I sing this song but I’ve never heard of that term and can’t find anything on it 🤦‍♀️

The problems arise when people start engaging their true cords during the screams- like when you add some tone to a whisper: a true whisper won’t hurt you; but if you whisper at a louder pitch it’s very dangerous for the voice. A true false cord scream is in theory safe, but many people aren’t actually doing true false cord screams at all times. It’s kinda tricky even when you really know your shit... I hear a lot of screamers whose speaking voices sound lower and more deep - even if they’re not experiencing hoarseness or nodules.

I just want to say I love your videos they've been very insightful as I've always done clean vocals and never thought I'd be able to get into screaming and start learning those techniques. You encouraged me to get into it! I would love to see you cover David Draiman's technique in Down With the Sickness though! That would be awesome. Thanks so much for sharing with us!

She uses a delayer and in Pisces it’s layered. But she doesn’t use a distortion. She’s been doing this 10 yrs.

This is very helpful for me as her fan, thank youuuu.

Please do Courtney Laplante from Spirit Box next!

I wanted to know more about the mouth and tongue shaping she was using

"Waving/flapping our tissues around....... *grabs a box of kleenex and waves it around furiously"...... Nope, doesn't sound at all like Tatiana😒

Jinjer is literal djazz how did i not notice that lol

Flapping those tissues, ok I'm on the case

Thanks teach.!!!!! Very well explained! Then again you do this for a livin!!!!...

Hey Maryz i didnt know you were also doing tutorials. This is amazing ! I didnt know about false cord ! Did you checked male singer from Igorrr ? I love his technique with a "half fry" (i know how it works inside but i dont have any tech word for this). He is the only one i know doing this. Wonderful work !

Please Mary, go and activate the automatic subtitules in all your videos so we, the non-native english speakers could understand your wisdom better 🙏 Thank you!!

thank you so much!! I would love to see one of Noora Louhimo, Battle Beast, I know you did an analysis but these "tutorials" help see how to safely obtain similar technique from a professional perspective

I'm looking forward to this one. Tatiana is the reason I started learning harsh vocals! Mary, you're awesome 🤘

I'm sorry, I absolutely love the Scandal Featuring Patty Smythe poster on the wall

You get requests on how to do vocals like Tati...???...🤔 What a surprise! 🤘😁. Thanks. You've got a great channel.

The clean singing isn't that special/difficult really but the false cords en fry make it very special. :-)

Hello! You have very professional reactions, so I recommend a very unusual singer for vocal analysis: Diana Ankudinova, 15 years old, "Wicked games". I think you will be extremely surprised.

Let's talk about how Jakob Samuelson of The Poodles hits those soprano notes in Line Of Fire!

Thanks!!!

What's the song played in the background of this video?

I guess I struggle with doing this without it tickling or irritating my vocal cords and causing a cough. I am a professional vocalist but I primarily sing with belts, mixed voice.....I just want to learn to do this

but how about the other songs?? they sound fry scream to me cuz she can go kinda long while doing it..

You know your stuff. Great explanation, thanks.

This was awesome! Thank you!

If the vocal cords are now renamed to vocal folds, shouldn't false cords now be called false folds? Just curious :)

I'm confused, Mary Z! I could swear you've already made some reaction video about Tatiana's vocals some time ago where you said she was using fry...Then explained her physical uniqueness which lets her go deep in sounding. I've watched a lot of her lives and the duration she's able to sustain the harsh notes together with transitions from clean vocals led to an understanding, that she's totally using fry scream, please prove me wrong:D

Can someone like me who has damaged vocal cords do this???

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!! I started watching your videos almost a year ago and have grown so much as a harsh vocalist (have my diploma in classical voice and have been classically trained for 14 years). I have been breaking my brain trying to fry scream but the false cord growl is just what I’m able to do at this point. I practice alongside a lot of Jinjer tracks and have wondered why everyone says that Tati uses just fry screams but my growls still sound a lot like hers. YOU LITERALLY JUST SAVED ME FROM MY OWN BRAIN AND MY FEELINGS OF LIMITATION. Thank you so much for what you do. I hope to be able to afford a Skype lesson with you one day 💙💜

I’m here, as a man, who is proficient with false chords, to see what I can learn 😂

whoever says that her vocals would mess up your voice, should react to trivium's first album

Most of the nonmetal vocal coaches on KZfaq actually have good attitudes about Tatiana's growls. They will tell you that they don't know much about how she achieves it, but that it seems to be healthy for her since she's able to get back to her clean vocals with ease and without signs of any damage.

Can we develop the "Venom" voice into a metal scream, at all?

Vocal cords are a muscle. The more you work it out the more you can handle.

Im blown away this is false cord! For the longest time I thought I could only fry but her style comes rather easy to me. No wonder it feels different compared to what I typically do!

what''s the background song name?! its sooo good

I honestly thought that Tatiana used a lower registered fry scream! Personally I have trouble with false cord and I am most comfortable with fry, so I may stand corrected.

Background track is such a banger it was distracting lol. Does anyone know the song? (background song)

How is this different from the way Chino screams? How has he lasted this long?

I really wish you would of talked a bit of the last part of the song, because it's amazing how fast she goes from clean to harsh.

Be prepared once the drummer switches over to rim shots. Rock on!

Next, show us how to do Bruce Dickenson's voice.

Been searching this for a while now, thank you for doing this!

I’m curious if the highs she does in this performance are fry screams. Or are they high false cords?

Can you do one for Chuck schuldiner

love it

Does she use a pitch shifter?

Do Matt Heafy!!!!!

Can you teach us how to put 20 layer of mix over vocal...

Your 😍 pretty🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

I would have guessed she was doing fry screams 🙄

Metal vocalists figure it out! Its just roaring! There is a reason for the false chord the same thing used by cats big cats cattle dogs(bark) hirses alpaccas kangaroos pigs bears ect ect ect its not a skill its more natural than a talking voice! We all grunt n growl when we are pissed off that is the primal growl and with a full burst its a roar And humans have one of the most grizzly roars on the planet

how do i do it while destroying my voice?

All the vocal coach looks and comments you made... So on point. I love you include that. Thank you for talking about Tatiana's vocals.

If Dr. Lilith Sternin joined a metal band, she'd be you. :)

Ahh finally! I’m already able to do vocals like hers but I’d love to understand the why better 😁 Your channel was the first to teach me to scream tho 🤘

Maybe next time show a video where she is actually singing (in real time) and not lip syncing to a studio version? Possibly a live vocal video?

Was waiting for you to eventually drop a video on this! Great work!

Sup dude.

Amazing to see the imaging!!! I’ve learned an insurmountably astonishing amount from you about my own cords, what they’re doing and how to eventually with much practice control them ❤️

Amazing content. Thanks for your commitment to science in everything you teach!

You know the old school Danny Filth style vocals... think that could hurt your voice? Would love a video on that bth.

So basically she's burping the lyrics :-)

Great explanation! I tried looking for your original reaction for Jinjer, was that taken down?

I love your speaking voice too!

Okay I need this!!