Since I tried one camping in 2020, that is all I use now. Back problems before too.

What kind of hammock?

@@dancingtiny7467 It's a canvas hammock

Well said Chuck - you know your stuff. My only tweak is to switch to the 20 x 47 inch small Therm-a-rest NeoAir Xlite pad. Otherwise we have to fight with the 30 inches that sticks out from our thigh to feet and insists on going straight when we are trying to lay laterally. Happy trails.

@@CaliforniaTravelVideos is that a 3/4 pad? Yeah the more I hammock the more I think those are the key to hammocking with a pad. Sadly no one, literally no hammock KZfaqr has mentioned them thst I know of.

​@California Travel Videos Great idea! The only time I tried to use a pad I had that sticking up problem. That makes perfect sense why it ppened! Thank you! (I needed something to buy)

Using a pad defeats the purpose of the comfort of the hammock...Also if you have an adjustable amsteel Ridgeline the 30 degrees angle is not as critical because your Ridgeline will keep your sag where it is supposed to be so you don't need the 30 degrees to create the sag...Great video and I wish about 90 % of people on the trail that think they know how to setup a hammock would watch this video...

Glad it was helpful! Yeah, that ridge line is really nice to have.

Niiiiiice!

You’re very welcome!

Because you're kinda cocooned in there, I don't feel like I need to fully sleep on my side. I'm a side sleeper and haven't had any issues with it myself. -Josh

Sweet!

@puetzranch What type of sleeping pads do you use?

​@@andrewperrin2821we have our vehicle close, so don't have to be minimal. We usually just have an old fashioned sleeping bag, but a blanket would work too. I have Therm-a-Rest NeoAir but I prefer the sleeping bag. If I needed to be minimal, I would use the pad.

That’s a great trick!

😅 Love it when strangers feel the need to give unsolicited advice! 😜

Awesome!

Wow!

I think you need to have the right hang. I found diagonal sleeping was great.

Depends on how stretched out your hammock is. Also the width of your hammock. I started with a napping hammock which is fine short term but will be uncomfortable overnight. Get a ‘double’ hammock, which won’t fit two people but will give one person a super comfortable lay.

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You're welcome!

Check it out on their website: alnk.to/8iNgQyC (PAID LINK)

I'm a big fan of Kammok, and they have a pretty compact but easy-to-assemble stand, too!

It's not the cheapest one out there, but we really like the Kammok Mantis: alnk.to/8iNgQyC (paid link)

I never got the hang of hammocks with spreaders. Just too tippy! 😅

Ha! Nice!

If you fall out, might need a rethink, but if it’s working, no need to fix it!

Maybe a hammock stand would work best?

Assuming you have an 11 foot hammock you'll need another 2-3 feet on both ends to get the correct 30 degree bow angle. Assuming you have 14+ feet clearance, use a stud finder to locate 2x4 inch (or 4x4) that you can drill 1/4 inch holes to mount bicycle hooks (at the 30 degree down angle) and you're good to go. Of course first test the hammock no more than 6 inches above the ground to make sure it holds your weight!

@Jack Blakeney there is less tension the larger the angle. It's plain geometry.

Sounds noisy but might be worth a try if you’re looking for lighter alternatives to block cold air underneath your hammock. As far as sleeping pads go, using a sleeping bag that integrates with the pad helps a lot, like the systems from Big Agnes: www.bigagnes.com/Gear/Sleeping-Bags/Big-Agnes-System-Bags

Put your sleeping pad INSIDE your sleeping bag. I do. It works. Just don't use a tight mummy bag.

Shit. I have a spreader bar.

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Glad you liked it

😱 Amazing!

Here’s the Mantis on Kammok’s website: alnk.to/8iNgQyC

Thank you for sending this😊 I appreciate it! Do you know or have you heard of hammocks are hurting your back, bc you're not laying flat? Have there been any studies done?

First Nations have been sleeping in hammocks for centuries! Also, if you set the hammock up and angle yourself correctly, you shouldn’t have any problems. www.wsj.com/articles/is-it-healthy-to-sleep-in-a-hammock-11561991925

@@Terradrift thank you Tara duras so much for sending this. Can you tell me why we've gotten so far away from it then if it's so ancient? Why dont doctors don't recommend it? I've never had it recommended by a doctor and I've had back pain my whole adult life. Which was a way I could try it out without actually buying it right away, to see if it would work for me.

Yes! We actually don’t have any under quilt so in cooler weather we use a sleeping pad. If it’s really cold a closed-cell foam pad or an insulated, inflatable pad is your best bet. terradrift.com/best-insulated-sleeping-pads-for-winter-backpacking/

@@Terradrift that's what I was thinking...can't wait to try it.

I LOVE my underquilt, I don't know if I could do a sleeping pad...

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Bearrito? You mean like a burrito inside a bear? I could see why it'd be comfy but unsure how'd you get out 😬

Thanks!

wierd, i thought she had a entertaining personality.

Thanks! Will do!!! 😆

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Thanks for the input!

As a 62 year old, I had back issues also. In 2020 camping season. I decided to try hammocks. I started with a Henessey asymmetric cut and was impressed. My back issues weren't there. I even switched to using it at home and tossed the bed. The asymmetric cut makes diagonal lie easier. After a bit, I got curious about lay flat hammocks and bought an Amok Draumr 5. My back was so warm due to the air mattress integrated into it. It is roomy, too, since it splays out to the sides. Being a cross-hang, I do find getting in and out and staying balanced a bit tricky even after lots of nights, but it's well worth it. I then decided to grab a Haven Safari on their pre offer. This model is seriously heavy duty, I'd buy a lighter one the next time. It doesn't have the cross-hang issues but has the air mattress advantage. They even sell a quilt for over the air mattress that I like for lower temperatures and feel. It is far more stable, but not as open as the Draumr. I liken it to sleeping in a box. Bonus, it can be used as a tent with some poles, like walking poles. The two flat lay hammocks let me toss and turn. I'm not a stomach sleeper, but these don't seem any less amenable than a bed would be. I hope this helps. I can't say why these give me fewer back problems, but perhaps it is the give of the suspension and air mattress. I'm only stiff and sore when I go out and over exert myself now, lol. I hope this helps. Edit: All 3 have built-in bug nets.

159cm here and I regularly exchange email with a similarly attitudinally challenged lass at Amok, a hammock manufacturer. 1) We can use smaller, lighter hammocks. 2).Trees don't need to be as far apart for us. 3) We take up less room on hostels. ...

You don’t! 😂 But in all honesty, hammocks probably aren’t a good choice for diehard stomach sleepers.

​@@TerradriftLay flats are as good as a bed for that.

Thanks so much!

Proper diet and exercise... oh, you meant in the hammock! I'm not sure which flap you are talking about, but there are asymmetric cut hammocks, Hennessey comes to mind, there are lay flat hammocks (so many, but I have an Amok Draumr and a Haven Safari). It is a huge industry, and I keep hearing hints of other ones out there in different regions that aren't as well known and may even be better.

Hey… 2’s company?…

My cats join me, as I use mine in the house instead of a bed. I could definitely see one checking it out. A bug net works for larger things than bugs, too.

and instead of one continuous sentence, its broken up into segments which makes the video even worse

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There are a number of ways. Kammock recently released a stand that clamps to a roof rack. I'm sure there are others. I have seen between two parked cars, roof rack to roof rack. If one were creative, one could close straps in doors with something inside that won't pull through. I'm not sure it would be good for the fit of the door, though. Go all the way across the top of the vehicle instead? A loop all around through both doors? I bought a stand - the Tensa 4. Packs small (not backpacker light), sets up fast, and eliminates the need for trees or cars to tie to.

What's up with YOUR hair? 😝😂

Have you tried a double hammock?

​@@TerradriftOr the XL ones available?

There are SO MANY hammocks for your height...

@@Terradrift I finally found one that works for me. Haven. I can get out of bed at 3am still half drunk to take a wee and get back in and everything is still in the same place and not balled up in the middle lol.

Context is a wonderful thing, isn't it? Hammocks are time tested and research backed. Just sayin' 🤷

Neither does "new and improved" as we have proven over and over again as humans.

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Compliment accepted! 😁 My pleasure.

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​@@TerradriftThanks. My pet peeve is uninformed experts.

Andrew ? shut up.

I'm not a hammock backpacker but if I were to begin using one, there are some great points to look at and consider when purchasing a hammock. Great job Alisha!

Perhaps I for some reason (generation, experience, etc) have thicker skin or have seen *real* condescension, but I didn't notice it in this video.