How To Tell A Good Drummer From A Bad Drummer

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To become a good drummer you have to go beyond your technical skills on the drum kit. If you only focus on playing the drum parts you want to play and/or the more technical ones, you’re doing it wrong. In this lesson, Brandon Khoo will teach you what your general thought process should be behind sculpting a great drum part for any song. This is what separates a novice drummer from a professional drummer.
And remember… This doesn’t mean to always keep things simple. If you think the music calls for you to chop out - go for it! Your number one goal should be to compliment the music while also leaving room for the other instruments when need be.
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@lonnieturnerii1874
@lonnieturnerii1874 6 жыл бұрын
As the old saying goes, "Play the song, not the instrument." Sage advice.
@chinnamaduraikaranchinna1247
@chinnamaduraikaranchinna1247 5 жыл бұрын
Lonnie Turner II m
@might_e
@might_e 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to like but I can’t bring myself to kill your 69 likes
@NZsaltz
@NZsaltz 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I stopped being a drummer and started being a DJ.
@drearydeary563
@drearydeary563 2 жыл бұрын
Yes yes...
@timpricedrums
@timpricedrums 6 жыл бұрын
More is more. Always play double kick. Especially at a wedding gig. In my experience, the bridesmaids have always enjoyed blast beats during 'brown eyed girl'. Never forget the 22" China cymbal. Play it at the same time as the snare to ensure your backbeat is strong. You can't do enough stick tricks. It's impossible. Experiment with time signatures. Try not to tell the band. It will ruin their enjoyment of the gig if they expect a sudden change from 4/4 to 11/16, but if you pull it off, you'll be getting asked to play with everyone. Just remember, if Vinnie can get away with it - so can you.
@notlikethisss
@notlikethisss 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best thing I've ever read.
@beatlesrgear
@beatlesrgear 6 жыл бұрын
ROFL!!!
@JoelHanleyJoelHanley
@JoelHanleyJoelHanley 6 жыл бұрын
Did you give Lars Ulrich this advice?
@sjpallnighter6973
@sjpallnighter6973 6 жыл бұрын
Ha ha! Love it! I laughed out loud when I read "bridesmaids have always enjoyed blast beats during 'brown eyed girl'.
@combyjames
@combyjames 6 жыл бұрын
Bingo!!
@phatsmitty
@phatsmitty 6 жыл бұрын
"play to serve the song, serve the band" was my method of playing bass, it was well-received with musicians and friends. So refreshing to hear a drummer say the same thing.
@beatsbygoldie2383
@beatsbygoldie2383 Жыл бұрын
Goes for any instrument really some genres like jazz or rock everyone wants to play loads of licks and fills. Less is more. Seen some bands where it’s like everyone’s fighting over each other and it just ends up shit
@user-fr6lr1wd8i
@user-fr6lr1wd8i 4 ай бұрын
I so agree with you, I’m also a bass musician
@spoonman4024
@spoonman4024 2 ай бұрын
This is super refreshing to hear. Took years to get friends of mine to see the importance of not using every opportunity to show-off your skills as good decision making.
@tasodionis2637
@tasodionis2637 6 жыл бұрын
Drummer since 1984. The most important thing is keeping time Not slowing down or speeding up. Once you master that then you can waste your time twirling your sticks
@marcosfischer_
@marcosfischer_ 4 жыл бұрын
Taso Dionis agreed
@Hypnotize4578
@Hypnotize4578 3 жыл бұрын
I have no interest in twirling sticks, but to keep it consistent.
@cra2cra226
@cra2cra226 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I've heard (but have no evidence) that Charlie Watts is a human metronome. The story, IIRC, is that they could turn on the track and get him started and then they could turn off the track and he'd keep playing by himself and 2 or 3 minutes later when they turned the track back up he was still RIGHT ON the beat.
@txman276
@txman276 3 жыл бұрын
Can you go fix every Metallica album ever? Lars has no sense of time whatsoever.
@mohddalibinzali1165
@mohddalibinzali1165 3 жыл бұрын
Is it true that lars ulrich cant read music?
@jarridlucas2576
@jarridlucas2576 6 жыл бұрын
Based on that intro, I don’t think I’m good enough to be a bad drummer.
@soapybeats4111
@soapybeats4111 5 жыл бұрын
It's just RLRLKK and six stroke roll filled bullshit with the beat from Tommy The Cat at the end. Anybody could play that dude
@denismay6011
@denismay6011 5 жыл бұрын
Jarrid Lucas, Never put yourself down there will be plenty of Morons who'll do it for you. I played for a long time before I got to ill to do anything also for a long time. The best advice to give you is set up your Drums with a Headphone on a CD Player and play along with every kind of music you can. Listen to how you " sense/feel " music and get enough music theory lessons to be able to sight read charts. But most of all have fun with it.Cheers from Australia, Denis.
@jacksontsukahara3798
@jacksontsukahara3798 5 жыл бұрын
Soapy Beats I literally cannot stand people like you. You think you’re so much better than everyone else, well guess what, not everyone is like you. Everyone is different with varying learning curves. The world doesn’t revolve around you.
@soapybeats4111
@soapybeats4111 5 жыл бұрын
what the hell man? How am I a selfish asshole for saying that the complicated SOUNDING stuff he's playing is actually simple? How am I saying the world revolves around me in any way? He could learn all of that easily, and he was selling himself short
@nwordpassifyousub2303
@nwordpassifyousub2303 5 жыл бұрын
Jarrid Lucas lol 😂
@stantomas
@stantomas 6 жыл бұрын
im a drummer for 50 yrs. it takes more "skill" to play in the pocket and make the music feel good than to play various "fills". id rather listen to a drummer in the pocket with zero fills all night long than anything else. its that sound that grabs you and your not sure why the band sounds so darn good....
@kylekenney1907
@kylekenney1907 6 жыл бұрын
See I can respect and understand that, but what I look for it something complex and unique, or at least just unique. Tool is a prime example. Even when Danny is playing something simple he doesn't use rhythms from his other songs. Everything he does is unique, be it complex or otherwise.
@adhanda2017
@adhanda2017 6 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d6iIp7qi0qfWhYk.html
@RustyWood
@RustyWood 5 жыл бұрын
I agree
@nwest8274
@nwest8274 5 жыл бұрын
ST: Right! Yes!
@pjeffries301
@pjeffries301 5 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@danielwyatt1147
@danielwyatt1147 6 жыл бұрын
This guy sounds like an Asian Arnold Schwarzenegger
@markvanderwardt3345
@markvanderwardt3345 5 жыл бұрын
Hit da drums, do iet naow !
@k6151960
@k6151960 5 жыл бұрын
@@markvanderwardt3345 Or we're all going to die..!
@attackinberlin5895
@attackinberlin5895 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Wyatt and looks
@coreysalerno833
@coreysalerno833 5 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
@guitarguy7847
@guitarguy7847 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Wyatt he does!
@owiseone1
@owiseone1 6 жыл бұрын
Kind of sounds like transitional music from the show Pawn Stars. Or when they ask the trivia question, in between commercials.
@ultrakool
@ultrakool 3 жыл бұрын
it's got a missing persons vibe to it
@whanowa
@whanowa 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know how anyone could misunderstand what he meant in his original video. The message was clear there.
@MrDragonitify
@MrDragonitify 5 жыл бұрын
Just morons trying to justify overplaying lol yeah it was pretty clear, especially helpful for a drummers pov
@TH3SLEEPING
@TH3SLEEPING 6 жыл бұрын
Simplicity is sometimes the best
@SKARKIBANEZ
@SKARKIBANEZ 6 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS ;)
@DINGDONGDANIEL3
@DINGDONGDANIEL3 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes not
@ChuckBarchuk
@ChuckBarchuk 6 жыл бұрын
More often than not less is more. It does depend on the genre but I still find that something less complicated usually works better.
@countrylife04
@countrylife04 6 жыл бұрын
The Sleeping most of the time
@AEarls1015
@AEarls1015 6 жыл бұрын
I've learned that the hard way for sure.
@the_nautillus9176
@the_nautillus9176 5 жыл бұрын
I consider myself a bad drummer but, hey, we can improve our skills by doing what? Exactly! By training and learning new tricks every day.
@jimbeaux89
@jimbeaux89 3 жыл бұрын
This has always been a big challenge for me. I’ve always had to tendency to stuff unnecessary notes and fills, mostly for self gratification. I’ve been on a journey to serve the music, and not myself as you’ve stated in this video. Y’all do a great job! Great people, and great drummers!
@bummerdrummer1902
@bummerdrummer1902 6 жыл бұрын
Play the song, not the instrument.
@goncalobaia1574
@goncalobaia1574 6 жыл бұрын
I Stole Your Waffles best way to describe a good drummer...or an instrumentist in general
@ayeaye2295
@ayeaye2295 6 жыл бұрын
That's deep yo
@nuketube6888
@nuketube6888 6 жыл бұрын
I want my waffles back
@aldrichabarabar8831
@aldrichabarabar8831 6 жыл бұрын
hell yeah !
@kirsty9084
@kirsty9084 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously illogical. Doesn't even make any sense in a inspirational way.
@naitch5365
@naitch5365 6 жыл бұрын
John Densmore from The Doors was a swing drummer, they played rock music, you can hear his style during their songs, I'd never in a million years tell him he was a bad drummer.
@lservis
@lservis 6 жыл бұрын
I love the way this guy can switch lead hands and not miss a beat!
@DavidNwokoye
@DavidNwokoye 6 жыл бұрын
How can u tell a good drummer from a bad drummer? The good drummer gets asked to be in a band.
@thereisnopandemic
@thereisnopandemic 5 жыл бұрын
Not on Metallica case, he had money
@sameerkooliyat3044
@sameerkooliyat3044 4 жыл бұрын
And the wrong bunk.
@ikon8275
@ikon8275 4 жыл бұрын
@@sameerkooliyat3044 it was actually Kurt's bunk. Big tough guy on the internet, wishing death upon someone he doesn't even know.... Pathetic.
@cra2cra226
@cra2cra226 3 жыл бұрын
Alot of drummers get into bands. Good drummers remain in good bands and get good pay. Are you being paid to do what you love? - Good drummer.
@gregreece7489
@gregreece7489 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikon8275 who is kurt?
@chriscollins50
@chriscollins50 6 жыл бұрын
Those drums are beautiful.
@andys3035
@andys3035 6 жыл бұрын
I believe they are Mapex Saturn V. Some of the best sounding drums for their price range.
@GageDrums
@GageDrums 6 жыл бұрын
Andy S you are correct sir
@OffTheRecordBandOTR
@OffTheRecordBandOTR 6 жыл бұрын
Yup! They are the best buy for the buck!!! My kit is 12 years old and I would never, ever get rid of it!!!!!
@andys3035
@andys3035 6 жыл бұрын
OffTheRecordBandOTR I have a Pearl Reference and would actually take the Mapex Saturn V's over my kit
@whormongrmuzik
@whormongrmuzik 6 жыл бұрын
and the synth guitar is horrrrible.
@scattabrayne
@scattabrayne 6 жыл бұрын
Dude...you hit the nail on the head!!! I don't get it when drummers think they must do these outrageous fills and double kicking in almost every single song! Please keep delivering more videos! I love your philosophy about drumming!
@MarkQuick0411
@MarkQuick0411 6 жыл бұрын
Too a certain degree I get wht he’s talking bout but can’t see eye to eye unfortunately I can agree to disagree with your statement sure you don’t need to have technical buddy rich chops we can only have so many Buddy Riches But that doesn’t mean you sacrifice your ambitions to “serve the Music”
@echo1434
@echo1434 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are a really solid drummer with a great feel and groove. And you are so right about "serving the song." This actually applies to all instruments - I wish more people understood this!
@gregthegroove
@gregthegroove 5 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of this kit. I think Drumeo has the best sounding drum recordings on KZfaq. Always quality guys. Good job
@kapalin846
@kapalin846 6 жыл бұрын
Simplicity is beautiful. Creative doesn't mean more complex. Develop your unique feel and simple things will feel good and serve the music. Think Gadd.
@RIdrummer96
@RIdrummer96 6 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdmqZtCj06-mlGQ.html this song begs to differ
@kapalin846
@kapalin846 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Curell no it doesn't, moron.
@RIdrummer96
@RIdrummer96 6 жыл бұрын
Explain how what Gadd is playing on that track isn't complex. I can send you the transcription if you want. Go ahead and try to play it. There's a reason why Gadd is put into the same category as Weckl and Colaiuta...
@kapalin846
@kapalin846 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Curell It's not complex for the sake of it. It's musical, it has FEELING. Gadd says something with his great technique. One can tell it is honest and that he's not just flinging chops. Besides, he chooses to play simple in plenty of other instances and alas, just as creative and great.
@FernieCanto
@FernieCanto 5 жыл бұрын
"this song begs to differ" It doesn't, actually. His playing is perfectly on point and servicing both the music and what the other musicians are doing. It's only complex because the music asks for it.
@onurguneri_
@onurguneri_ 6 жыл бұрын
do not overplay.
@morganserrano9219
@morganserrano9219 6 жыл бұрын
well you can overplay, but when it's needed, see day in life-beatles
@BadRonald1
@BadRonald1 6 жыл бұрын
True, That's because when he plays, he believes everything is about him.
@joemorford732
@joemorford732 6 жыл бұрын
@motor78 did you listen to what he even said you play prog music you bring out the prog chops serve the music..... miss the point much???
@copperlineconnectors2455
@copperlineconnectors2455 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Morford he doesn't understand, he is one on these that just plays senseless stuff at random. In his on little world, with no concept of what's going on musically. Waist of time!
@copperlineconnectors2455
@copperlineconnectors2455 6 жыл бұрын
Motor78 Mike knows what he is doing with rundimental concepts, I doubt you do! There's a big difference between that and making senseless noise! And I would doubt you know the difference!
@ionut.666
@ionut.666 Жыл бұрын
i keep coming back to this video once in a while, i love it so much!
@flapjackson6077
@flapjackson6077 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! It’s harder to learn restraint than it is to learn those extraneous fills. Keep tempo, feel the groove, and let the fills be the occasional accent to the composition.
@nathanaeltsen8957
@nathanaeltsen8957 6 жыл бұрын
Pork chops
@Grit489
@Grit489 6 жыл бұрын
Nathanael Tsen hahaha
@roshanjohn5949
@roshanjohn5949 6 жыл бұрын
Nathanael Tsen 🤣🤣
@mmhtun1382
@mmhtun1382 6 жыл бұрын
Dude I heard the same thing XD
@rutherfordBHAZED
@rutherfordBHAZED 6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@lakebay972
@lakebay972 5 жыл бұрын
and applesauce....ain't that swell
@hotpotato265
@hotpotato265 6 жыл бұрын
If you listen closely to the background. You can heard Danny Carey laughing in 3/4 against the 4/4.
@AaronLevyDrums
@AaronLevyDrums 6 жыл бұрын
Can't really hear him? Oh that's right, the new Tool record isn't out yet is it?
@hotpotato265
@hotpotato265 6 жыл бұрын
Aaron Levy If you just do enough DMT, then you can transcend time and space. And I have to say, the new album is pretty dope. I am just waiting to have it in a form of matter.
@kylecurran6747
@kylecurran6747 6 жыл бұрын
You can hear Thomas Pridgen laughing in 3/4 but clapping in 15/16
@nicholasoberry1010
@nicholasoberry1010 6 жыл бұрын
Bravo everyone
@Gavin-hy2eh
@Gavin-hy2eh 6 жыл бұрын
you can hear Mike Mangini walking in 19/16 while breathing in 17/8, phrased as a bar of 10/8 and a bar of 7/8 while humming with quintuplets
@krismichalsky
@krismichalsky 6 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. I've played with too many drummers that are way over the top. Good job bro!!!
@RobRossi10
@RobRossi10 6 жыл бұрын
Love it. Couldn't agree more. Whether you are playing drums, writing a tune, singing a tune, or guitar soloing over a tune, etc. - Always "yield to the song". It's there already. It's our job to get out of the way and let it through.
@Enoch.Stanford
@Enoch.Stanford 6 жыл бұрын
I love drumeo , its just so awesome , I'm glad there is a channel for myself and my fellow drummers to enjoy
@DrumeoOfficial
@DrumeoOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
We are very glad to have you. Thank you, friend!
@NoisyCymbal
@NoisyCymbal 6 жыл бұрын
No better feeling in the world than resting on a Friday with some drumeo lessons!
@Cuzjudd
@Cuzjudd 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Morris I can think of at least one better feeling
@jods1
@jods1 5 жыл бұрын
And that is why Ringo was the best drummer that ever lived. Maybe he wasn't the most technically proficient drummer around, but he understood the songs and had a philosophy, which elevated songs to their full potential. Drumming is not (just) about sound but also about silence as good composers know. Just as chopping potatoes the fastest doesn't make you the best chef so will playing the fastest or like a virtuoso not make you the best musician.
@mongoosexxXXXXXXX
@mongoosexxXXXXXXX 2 жыл бұрын
The best thing is seeing a drummer smiling while groovin always livin the best life
@davitoofficial7383
@davitoofficial7383 6 жыл бұрын
Lol he said pop chop haha
@Cuzjudd
@Cuzjudd 6 жыл бұрын
vito markos hahaha
@MrLennonson
@MrLennonson 6 жыл бұрын
Pork chop
@tylerhofmann2309
@tylerhofmann2309 6 жыл бұрын
Does this look like a pop chop and a rotisserie to you??
@ryuuzSd
@ryuuzSd 6 жыл бұрын
for a moment it sounded like he was Chinese or something
@MrRugbyloosehead
@MrRugbyloosehead 6 жыл бұрын
Pork Soda!
@Danfromoverthere
@Danfromoverthere 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Being in the pocket is more important than showing off. Every style has its beats and fills like you said
@Five0Music
@Five0Music 6 жыл бұрын
Best advice I have seen on KZfaq. There's a time and a place for everything.
@GMComposerTV
@GMComposerTV 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect sounding kit!
@matthewjames206
@matthewjames206 6 жыл бұрын
So true. Always play what the song needs. Nothing more, nothing less.
@yuliy2377
@yuliy2377 6 жыл бұрын
James Matthews that’s what makes a drummer like Ringo Starr so great!
@dirtysoul23
@dirtysoul23 5 жыл бұрын
another good example is radiohead’s drummer
@starchild692
@starchild692 6 жыл бұрын
I used to overplay so much, I would turn any simple song into a mess, fills every 8 bars or so, too much double bass a not let the song breath and argue with fellow musicians about it but as time passed I was getting musically mature, I would record myself and listen then I realized I'm not at all what I was thinking I was ,not cool instead terrible. So to save time one needs to record himself playing and question what he's doing from a 3rd person perspective, does it sound right ? Would a professional drummer or my drum mentor play it that way ? If not then what I need to get rid of and what needs to be improved?
@alexd2227
@alexd2227 6 жыл бұрын
Ouarem Cracken Great advice
@reinierweerts6923
@reinierweerts6923 6 жыл бұрын
Seconded
@johnmarkalbores2695
@johnmarkalbores2695 6 жыл бұрын
Agree.. but never put aside creativity.. but something that works with all other instruments..
@ChadMojito
@ChadMojito 6 жыл бұрын
What I usually do is I keep it simple 75% of the time and overplay 1 bar out of 4. That way it's not "too much" but I still have enough creative freedom. Works for me
@coreysalerno833
@coreysalerno833 5 жыл бұрын
Travis Barker- generational divide. He’s the only one that is godlike with it
@Armz316
@Armz316 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video drum lesson! Thanks for sharing! God bless you!
@andrewmcgee1001
@andrewmcgee1001 6 жыл бұрын
Great advice!! Thanks so much for posting..I already knew this, but I'm sure there are some out there that tend to "overplay" and not as you say serve the music...this of course can apply to ALL musicians and instruments too.
@LunyMilky
@LunyMilky 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, I know that tune, it's called "Keep it simple" x') \m/
@LunyMilky
@LunyMilky 6 жыл бұрын
x')
@SlimBarista
@SlimBarista 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite KISS song ;)
@caprise-music6722
@caprise-music6722 6 жыл бұрын
Luny & Milky Cool tune :-)
@19boro76
@19boro76 6 жыл бұрын
Very good description, plain and simple when you play death metal play in 180-200 bpm and use metal chops, but when you play country music 'SERVE THE MUSIC and keep it simple', exellent man :) thumbs up
@robjontay5052
@robjontay5052 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent lesson! Thank you
@NickGranville
@NickGranville 6 жыл бұрын
The best drummers I’ve played with no one had to tell anyone they were good - they just did it and we all knew. Somethings were consistent between all of them e.g time, groove, sound, attitude etc
@artsaenz9111
@artsaenz9111 6 жыл бұрын
what he is saying is very correct I know it hurts but in my neck of the woods if you need to make some money as a professional drummer that is exactly the way to go
@nicholassupino8775
@nicholassupino8775 6 жыл бұрын
It's all about what works for the song. I leaned this the hard way at 13 when I had my first gig with my dad's band and way over played. My dad approached me after the show and said you know kind sometimes less is more... somtimes... be the thing the song needs... it's not the drum show... its the overall experience of sound. My dad is amazing!
@Armz316
@Armz316 6 жыл бұрын
Great video love it! Thanks for sharing!
@DMDvideo10
@DMDvideo10 6 жыл бұрын
Chops doesn't make a good drummer. First and utmost important skill is TIMING. Practice and play with a time piece until you can do it in your sleep. Make it sound natural. Second (like he says) play to the genre. You don't need Neil Peart chops in s a pop song or country song. Some of the best pop and country tunes have just a few choice fills. Just groove the crap out of it. Third know your instrument. Know how to set it up for the easiest playing, know how to care for it, tune it, clean it up and add the right accessories to enhance your sound. Lastly be yourself. We don't need clones of existing musicians. be the first person to do something or do it a unique way...
@the_nautillus9176
@the_nautillus9176 5 жыл бұрын
Phil Rudd was the prince of timing.
@ahacks7692
@ahacks7692 3 жыл бұрын
Chops are sick
@gregtthomas
@gregtthomas 6 жыл бұрын
How to tell a good drummer from a bad drummer? One Word: METER.
@overthoughtandunderstated
@overthoughtandunderstated 6 жыл бұрын
Serving the music means to do whats right for a particular moment in a particular song, and there are a million different ways to achieve that. It doesn't mean you have to serve the genre. In fact, that can restrict creativity. I think a lot of "metal" would be a hell of a lot better without blast beats and double kick.
@ShreddingDragon
@ShreddingDragon 6 жыл бұрын
This ^ Serve the song parts, not "the genre".
@BladerPR
@BladerPR 6 жыл бұрын
Iron Maidens drummer is a really good example of what you're talking about imo.
@peepongdingdong9208
@peepongdingdong9208 6 жыл бұрын
GaimMadness Check out Gar Samuelson's work with Megadeth's first 2 records, Rattlehead is a good start. Also the 2018 kimb remix is great for hearing Gar's drum parts.
@zacharywoodroffe4434
@zacharywoodroffe4434 5 жыл бұрын
A great example of metal without blast beats and overused double kick is Avenged Sevenfold's stuff. It's in There, but used sparingly. Listen to almost easy... he uses a Latin beat dining the verse!
@pauloketch3991
@pauloketch3991 5 жыл бұрын
A Clear cut approach that's truly elaborate ! Tell us more off the world of Music .
@mikeysbestfriend6496
@mikeysbestfriend6496 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been preaching this for years. Thank you 🙏🏻
@DogfaceJones1
@DogfaceJones1 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome sims 3 soundtrack drum cover!
@SeaTheLion
@SeaTheLion 6 жыл бұрын
Yaaas
@zimorog
@zimorog 6 жыл бұрын
i think that serving music by it's genre is not a good idea. it leads to that the whole genre starts sounding the same. just my humble opinion.
@MarkQuick0411
@MarkQuick0411 6 жыл бұрын
I get where he’s coming from but personally I think it limits your potential tbh I agree with serving the music but at the same time you can balance it out but he seems smart but why play average rhythms when you can spice it up a bit while still serving the music I may be wrong but that’s just me
@DutchJMFender
@DutchJMFender 6 жыл бұрын
But still, serving the music instead of yourself is a great lesson. You can keep the genre as a frame of reference.
@AaronLevyDrums
@AaronLevyDrums 6 жыл бұрын
So basically if the whole genrre "sounds the same" as you said, then what's wrong with that? That just means Blues sounds like Blues, Metal sounds Metal, Rock sounds Rock, R&B sounds like R&B.... so what?!
@brycebaker6184
@brycebaker6184 6 жыл бұрын
Its a good idea if you want a job. You have to serve the music first. The all time greats are the ones that are able to put their own personal flair on top of serving the music. Their creativity allowed them to play something unique and interesting but still play to exactly what the music required.
@zimorog
@zimorog 6 жыл бұрын
there is a neonazi belief that other races are ok as long as they stay away and don't mix with white race. your comment reminded me of that
@TheBenjammin5150
@TheBenjammin5150 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man!
@howtoteachscience
@howtoteachscience 4 жыл бұрын
I have a learning drummers channel and this is the kind of title I detest, then I watched and you are so dead on! I wish all drummers knew this. You ARE good enough. And the only bad drummer is one who can't serve the song. Do right by your band and the music and you will do just fine!
@bryanleigh6497
@bryanleigh6497 6 жыл бұрын
Mitch Mitchell was very busy with Hendrix, played rock and blues like jazz. Only the bass was simple. There are no absolute rules, except for learners.
@sahandrums
@sahandrums 3 жыл бұрын
That's good haha. No Rules, except for leaners. =)
@denismay6011
@denismay6011 5 жыл бұрын
I played drums for about 30 plus years before it was thought I had Motor Neurone Disease back in 2003 when I had to Retire from all work and drumming. It ended up being Spinal and Nervous System issues that has taken till this year before I am improving enough to want to play again. I always had a inbuilt " sense " of how a song went and I disagree with the statement of playing music to a genre. Listen to how you feel the music. I was never a perfect technical drummer but I turned up at practice with the band, kept off the Piss/Drugs when I played a Gig and was reliable. I think these are important personal targets for any drummer to be valued. Playing with Soul/Feeling beats being tech perfect any day.
@rochellerose1262
@rochellerose1262 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome channel thanks for uploading
@johniacona4832
@johniacona4832 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding advice to any drummer from beginner to professional!
@jameschriss8664
@jameschriss8664 6 жыл бұрын
Jerry Edmonton of Steppenwolf was the best. He is sorely missed. His chops and timing were impeccable.
@accountisnotdeleted1063
@accountisnotdeleted1063 3 жыл бұрын
“How am I a good drummer?” IF I WAS A BAD DRUMMER, I WOULDN’T BE SITTIN’ HERE NOW WOULD I!?
@pattysixxace6280
@pattysixxace6280 3 жыл бұрын
TF2! I LOVE THIS COMMENT
@NorthWriter
@NorthWriter 6 жыл бұрын
Ha ha. Love it. I saw the intro and was like, "Oh, great...what's THIS going to be all about?" So glad to hear what Brandon says about playing to the music. Dude is spot on.
@jetcitysinatra7300
@jetcitysinatra7300 6 жыл бұрын
I was listening to the song you were playing and it reminded me of the Missing Persons and Men Without Hats. . .Great stuff by the way.
@DuelingDragonsMusic
@DuelingDragonsMusic 5 жыл бұрын
I actually thought that the “serving the drummer” example sounded awesome 👏
@chocolateguy8301
@chocolateguy8301 4 жыл бұрын
(intro plays) Me: that's sick, he's such a good drummer Him: That's an example of a bad drummer Me: O_O
@tatcomics6780
@tatcomics6780 6 жыл бұрын
Great message
@AJohansson1966
@AJohansson1966 6 жыл бұрын
Great dude !
@Unibabble
@Unibabble 6 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting that his extremely simple approach did not hide his obvious skill as a drummer. You can tell the guy can really play just by how he plays that straight beat.
@texasturner2313
@texasturner2313 6 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. Serve the music first.
@Jesse-cx4si
@Jesse-cx4si 2 жыл бұрын
When I watch drummer videos it’s like watching something in a foreign language. And yet, I still love it!
@itwillbeokihope9792
@itwillbeokihope9792 6 жыл бұрын
There’s the good drummer and then there’s me. That’s how I tell the difference.
@BadRonald1
@BadRonald1 6 жыл бұрын
Here is my take. If your in a R & B band and playing music to dance to, you definitely want to keep it straight on the 2 & 4. If your playing pop music you can get away with a little fill here and there but should be kept straight as well. Because it's about the pulse and the music.
@itsmarius3778
@itsmarius3778 5 жыл бұрын
Who else watched this because you are taking drum lessons?
@Greggyboyz60
@Greggyboyz60 5 жыл бұрын
Great 👍 Drum lesson. Awesome drumming. I subscribed.
@michaellake5269
@michaellake5269 5 ай бұрын
Great drummer and great teacher.
@RustyWood
@RustyWood 5 жыл бұрын
There's a good reason The Beatles were and are the music phenomenon... they played all their instruments in a way that always best served that song!
@andriealinsangao613
@andriealinsangao613 5 жыл бұрын
Correct!
@link2155
@link2155 3 жыл бұрын
you're goddamn right.
@drearydeary563
@drearydeary563 2 жыл бұрын
Ringo was the man.
@drearydeary563
@drearydeary563 2 жыл бұрын
Correction. Ringo IS the man
@steveross8326
@steveross8326 7 күн бұрын
A bass player friend once told me "It's not what you put in, it's what you leave out.......and you left some fantastic stuff out"...😂😂
@trashboy9517
@trashboy9517 6 жыл бұрын
I havent gotten to play my drums in a while since i am moving. I miss playing soo much
@NoisyCymbal
@NoisyCymbal 6 жыл бұрын
Antonio Marin practice pads will suit you well!
@trashboy9517
@trashboy9517 6 жыл бұрын
+Michael Morris Yea I have some but Its just not the same without my kit, lol :P
@behindthen0thing
@behindthen0thing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information
@Eseckiels
@Eseckiels 6 жыл бұрын
Antonio Marin I feel you. Pads in my opinion are just for technique but something is missing
@coopercurtis8502
@coopercurtis8502 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had a house fire, so it's been about four months since I've played, and it will probably be at least another two. Rip :(
@Jan-S-Simonsen
@Jan-S-Simonsen 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I’m totally in agreement here.
@jdogdaddy
@jdogdaddy 6 жыл бұрын
Right on Brandon!
@Timliu92
@Timliu92 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Seriously, I cannot believe people are missing the point Brandon Khoo is making. It is NOT about playing only simple licks and ignoring the hard ones, but rather about identifying the appropriate tools and using them accordingly depending on the genre or style of music you are serving. This applies to not only drums, but all musical instruments as well. Sometimes, instrumentalists (and singers too, being a learning singer myself) forget to put the styles of the songs they are doing as a priority and instead try to cram in as many licks and notes as possible to sound impressive whether on stage or in the studio, often taking away the space and pauses in the mix (at worst, sometimes even the groove of the song) and ruining the music they are doing. Imagine inserting blast beats in a Rolling Stones tune, adding rapid fire Malmsteen sweep picking licks to the guitar solo of Something by The Beatles, or belting out Fly Me To The Moon at 10 instead of singing it in a conversational manner - unless you tailor those tunes to fit the intended style through which your licks will sound musically appropriate, those three cases will sound rather ridiculous and jarring. Hence, serve the music first, and use the chops to do so, not vice versa.
@docdoon
@docdoon 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you but his groove sounds awful in my professional opinion
@bassesatta9235
@bassesatta9235 6 жыл бұрын
this is why don henley is one of the most underrated drummers ever
@russellcrawford7453
@russellcrawford7453 5 жыл бұрын
I've been the drummer since 1966 and I live in Dallas where Don Henley lives but I don't think he's a good drummer in any sense of the word, boring is more like it. Wish me luck on getting his autograph though
@mijuajua4820
@mijuajua4820 4 жыл бұрын
I am an almost 50 yo woman and after watching this I have this insane desire to learn to play the drums!🤷🏻‍♀️
@MU6AFA
@MU6AFA 4 жыл бұрын
then go for it . that all you need , a burning desire
@downsyndromehitler5697
@downsyndromehitler5697 6 жыл бұрын
Good vid, very informative
@pasodeminick
@pasodeminick 6 жыл бұрын
Silence is music too, you don't have to fill silence with unnecessary proof of being a fast "hit everything I have in tempo". Two drummers that master this (among many others): Omar Hakim and Stewart Copeland.
@zeyy84
@zeyy84 5 жыл бұрын
"Do not fix something that is not broken" Wow wise words
@shatteredheart8548
@shatteredheart8548 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like the warning's guitarist
@juddaustin399
@juddaustin399 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice. Serve the music - make it groove - first. fills and solos are just that. your number one priority is to support the band with a steady meter.
@christopherandrochellchann3581
@christopherandrochellchann3581 5 жыл бұрын
Great advice thanks
@toiletfarm
@toiletfarm 6 жыл бұрын
But how will everyone know how great my band is if I don’t pull every trick out of the bag? Those pop plebs need to hear a REAL musician, like myself, play Billie Jean with double kicks.
@ChaosOwl
@ChaosOwl 6 жыл бұрын
toiletfarm It’s not about that. It’s about how well your music fits together. It’s about what feeling the audience gets when they listen to a song. Have you ever listened to a song that you could just relate to? It’s like that. Sure, you can get fancy and do stuff like that, but don’t be too extra
@DavidAndrewPolycoder
@DavidAndrewPolycoder 6 жыл бұрын
toiletfarm solid troll mate.
@sebastianlindon8992
@sebastianlindon8992 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChaosOwl woosh
@funkysc100
@funkysc100 6 жыл бұрын
But sometimes, you need to mix up the "genres" to create something new that has never been heard before, for example band called Tool, they have been called the prog, metal, grunge, heavy rock, rock, art rock, u name it and at the end of the day, Tool is a genre on its own... and there is plenty of this kind of examples, if you just stick to the stuff that u have learned and never push the boundaries, you will end up doing the same shit that have existed for past century. "Serve the music" i can totally agree on that, but forget about the damn genres. Dont put everything in the boxes, instead start thinking out of the box.
@MarkQuick0411
@MarkQuick0411 6 жыл бұрын
Funk SC that’s wht I’m saying I 110% agree with your statement it’s like playing one genre for the rest of your career but not innovating past your limits Kanye West for example is always evolving his sound with each album You think he be at this point right now if he just “served the music” no of course not love him or hate him he deserves a lot of respect even if he can be egocentric
@funkysc100
@funkysc100 6 жыл бұрын
That is the beauty of music, its all about the evolution and progress i suppose.
@funkysc100
@funkysc100 6 жыл бұрын
@Baron Jan, that was really well said.
@sovereignviper
@sovereignviper 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. This video is another perfect example of how all these drum channels are too busy telling us HOW to play instead of creating awesome beautiful music. This isn't keeping it simple, it's keeping it boring. I don't need a session drummer to tell me how to play drums, I don't need latin drummers to tell me the only times I should use a foot clave, and etc. I'm so sick of it. There's so many possibilities out there and advice like this is holding you back from them. And yes, I understand that it's not the most musical thing to do fills the entire length of a song, but videos like this only discuss the two extremes. "You don't want to be too flashy! Keep it Simple and watch me play this boring song that you'd never want to listen to!" And believe me I know what I'm talking about, being a musician for half my life
@mdburkholder
@mdburkholder 6 жыл бұрын
I think if the creative approach is going to be one of genre-bending, then "serving the music" in that situation would involve a drummer bending genres. Still the same philosophy no?
@rickfrancen8786
@rickfrancen8786 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty neat that you can switch your left hand/right hand on the snare within the song, back and forth. That certainly opens things up for possibilities. I've never seen that done before.
@ikmaltobing_
@ikmaltobing_ 5 жыл бұрын
I’m with you dude 🤟🏻
@ParaBellum2024
@ParaBellum2024 6 жыл бұрын
I know one or two drummers who would benefit from following this guy's advice. Technically great players, but when I pick up the phone, they're bottom of the list.
@DV-id6di
@DV-id6di 4 жыл бұрын
Legitimate. Right on lol
@N3V2-Nevto
@N3V2-Nevto 6 жыл бұрын
I remember this guy? I think I saw him at facebook telling everyone how you could identify a good drummer from a "show-off" drummer / bad drummer. Is he that guy? anyone can relate to what I'm saying? :)
@ReCharredSigh
@ReCharredSigh 6 жыл бұрын
Yea i think he’s the same guy. He was using a beatles track and playing in a metal style to emphasize his point.
@SlimBarista
@SlimBarista 6 жыл бұрын
WOW!!.. I was thinking the exact same thing while I was watching this video, freaking out by deja vu lol. Little research on THAT video I saw years ago (the one you mentioned), and it turns out he's indeed the same guy. His name is Brandon Khoo, here's the link kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9WBpq6D3s_MdXU.html
@666finnegan
@666finnegan 5 жыл бұрын
Ya. That's when he was trying to say he was a better drummer than Ringo Starr by doing unnecessary fills and stick tricks in front of a bunch of school kids.
@LeeTong69
@LeeTong69 5 жыл бұрын
Space Ghost Congratulations, you missed the point of the video dipshit
@moncres
@moncres 6 жыл бұрын
left and right hand for the snare.. awesome!
@fireyourrocketts
@fireyourrocketts 5 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful video and you are an experienced drummer with very good chops. In my time as drummer for over 30 years I never cared for studying the instrument to be very proficient with chops; only those I was intending to play; like many years ago I used to play Tom Sawyer; I was them and still are obsessed with the concept that when we play a cover and covers is what I did mostly my whole time as drummer because I did not had the opportunity to record originals; if you shall play a cover of a famous song that was already recorded and people know it, unless it is a different arrangement of the same song, I try always to stay as close as the original as my ears allow me; means; no extra chops, no all over the place breaks, no rolls where it should be quarter notes etc. and so far I have about 40 videos of covers I used to do showing exactly this way of thinking applied to those performances; It is called CONCEPT, this is what you are explaining and it is true; a good drummer serves the music, not himself unless he is performing a solo; I was never a soloist drummer; that is not what I prepared myself to be; I wanted to play the tunes I liked, I did and I loved them and enjoyed them all as much as their original recording drummers did. Playing as a top 40 band drummer seems not that much but it makes you in time an expert in concept, especially if you play different styles and had to "copy" many different drummers to serve the job you are doing which in this case is bring to the audience a very similar copy of the song they already knew and enjoyed the way it was recorded. That is my opinion; there are people who agree and those who disagree; funny thing is the more experienced performer a drummer is the more difficult to keep it simple it is for him or her because certainly in one's head, there are all sort of combinations and ideas available to just show! In this regards, watch and learn from a master who immediately comes in mind, as an example; Vinnie Colaiuta! he can play any style and never be out of concept, ever! Thank you for this video! I subbed immediately.
@MichaelSouhoka
@MichaelSouhoka 6 жыл бұрын
Keeping time is more important than soloing.
@abhishekpeter580
@abhishekpeter580 Жыл бұрын
Keep it simple, serve the music not yourself ! 👍 really informative.
@PK-tw9bm
@PK-tw9bm 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the simplicity of the second part of the video and I love the wild ride that was the first part of the video too 🧐
@eerrrrrrfolks
@eerrrrrrfolks 6 жыл бұрын
Love this, solid advice
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